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Player Piano Revival Episode 15: Reconstructing the Striker Pneumatics 

Outside the Vacuum with Nate Otto
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#stacked #reversible #tuppercrust
This 105-year-old player piano is in dire need of an overhaul if it's ever going to be anything more than just a shelving unit.
I often feel like I'm operating inside a vacuum in my little piano shop. It's time to change that.
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Music: QRS 8269 Tallahassee, "88 Note" 924 That Devilish Glide, QRS 7482 Elmer's Tune, QRS 5190 They Cut Down The Old Pine Tree, QRS 7716 Strip Polka, "88 Note" 300629 Love Me While the Lovin' is Good, "88 Note" 300505 Junk Man Rag, played on a 1917 Autopiano upright player piano.

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@nateoutsidethevacuum
@nateoutsidethevacuum Год назад
The cloth used in this video is the "thin synthetic pneumatic cloth" from DC Ramey. dcramey.com/Supplies2.html
@jorgeandrade20
@jorgeandrade20 Год назад
Yes, a bench testing episode is very much needed!!
@nateoutsidethevacuum
@nateoutsidethevacuum Год назад
Noted!
@masklavier
@masklavier Год назад
I would love to see a bench testing episode! I feel your pain with the “Devil’s Phlegm,” I found some in my piano on the newer looking valves. Took me an entire day to just get the residue off and I had to trash the main block of the air motor when I saw that had it as well. It’s amazing to see the similarity between what we are doing, everything down to the clothespin on the glue brush is almost the same! I love watching these videos and my dad is now watching them as well, they brighten my day and remind me that some day I’ll have a perfectly functional player piano like you! Thanks as always.
@nateoutsidethevacuum
@nateoutsidethevacuum Год назад
Thank you for following along all this time. Enjoy your project! We're all in this together.
@RagtimeFreak86
@RagtimeFreak86 Год назад
This is one of the greatest channels on RU-vid... Thank You.. Keep up the good work! :D
@nateoutsidethevacuum
@nateoutsidethevacuum Год назад
That's very kind of you! Thanks for your support and encouragement.
@quantumleap359
@quantumleap359 5 дней назад
Nate, your craftsmanship is superb! I am so impressed with the careful detail you give each section of the player. Thanks for posting this series!
@yetanotherdan
@yetanotherdan Год назад
I have no idea how you don't have thousands of views. Thank you for sharing your time with these pianos and explaining everything. Here's hoping I get to tell everyone I was a fan of yours before you became a sellout!
@dcallan812
@dcallan812 Год назад
It is funny that just a few people get to watch thus channel. All we can do is comment and like, in the hope that youtube will highlight him to other viewers.
@nateoutsidethevacuum
@nateoutsidethevacuum Год назад
Thanks for following along and for your support!
@eDoc2020
@eDoc2020 Год назад
521 subs on the channel, 650 views on this channel as of February 21, 2023. I bet we'll reach 1k by May, then it's probably going to explode. I'm wagering nothing. If I'm right I'll get back two nothings. If that doesn't get my desk clean, I don't know what will.
@nateoutsidethevacuum
@nateoutsidethevacuum Год назад
@eDoc2020 I appreciate your confidence! Anything is possible and entropy is inevitable!
@daveallan3152
@daveallan3152 Год назад
Yes please! More! More! These are great! Thanks
@nateoutsidethevacuum
@nateoutsidethevacuum Год назад
3 more episodes left!
@Ififitzisitz
@Ififitzisitz Год назад
You could make this series into a television show! I’m lovin’ it!
@nateoutsidethevacuum
@nateoutsidethevacuum Год назад
Thanks Calvin! But I'm afraid I'm already in way over my head!
@eDoc2020
@eDoc2020 Год назад
@@nateoutsidethevacuum I believe in you. You can rise above the challenge. An 8 foot ladder is all you need.
@nateoutsidethevacuum
@nateoutsidethevacuum Год назад
@@eDoc2020 step by step. Thanks again for your encouragement.
@JasonBlaylock
@JasonBlaylock Год назад
Have my vote on bench testing. Would love to see how you adjust the valves if needed.
@nateoutsidethevacuum
@nateoutsidethevacuum Год назад
Thanks Jason!
@MultiPetercool
@MultiPetercool 7 месяцев назад
I rebuilt my first player in 1979. Have rebuilt a half dozen since. I own a 1927 Steinway OR Duo-Art with a Louis XVI catalog art case. Thanks for promoting the craft!
@nateoutsidethevacuum
@nateoutsidethevacuum 7 месяцев назад
It's a passion by now!
@jaredvv86
@jaredvv86 Год назад
That vintage Tupperware aesthetic is gorgeous. Possible future sponsorship deal needs to be considered 😂
@nateoutsidethevacuum
@nateoutsidethevacuum Год назад
Not a bad idea!
@rty1955
@rty1955 5 месяцев назад
Just stumbled across your channel. You have great work ethics. not repair the bad things, but doing a full restoration. awesome. I restore 2" quad video tape machines and also completely tear down and rebuild leaving no stone unturned. The only way to RESTORE things that have aged. Love your attention to detail and knowledge about woods & glue. Huge amount of work, but at least you know EVERYTHING has been restored. I would love to be your apprentice! I subscribed! Keep up the great work!
@nateoutsidethevacuum
@nateoutsidethevacuum 4 месяца назад
I really appreciate the recognition. Thank you and enjoy your projects!
@drtrann2411
@drtrann2411 Год назад
The time and patience this must take. Absolutely incredible!
@nateoutsidethevacuum
@nateoutsidethevacuum Год назад
Thank you! The end result makes it all worthwhile.
@iangillis1271
@iangillis1271 Год назад
Whole lotta work to rebuild a pneumatic deck assembly. Congrats!
@nateoutsidethevacuum
@nateoutsidethevacuum Год назад
Thanks! I'm not sure which I "enjoy" more - deck work or valves. So glad to have it all back together.
@jasonsummit1885
@jasonsummit1885 Год назад
Been enjoying this restoration series, definitely need a bench test and reconstruction video.👍
@nateoutsidethevacuum
@nateoutsidethevacuum Год назад
Thanks Jason! It's in the works.
@seattlevegas66
@seattlevegas66 Год назад
Great material Nate = thank you. I am wrapping up the piano action rebuild and will be starting the player mechanism rebuild shortly. It is clear that all of the bellows need to be replaced. This is a great roadmap!
@nateoutsidethevacuum
@nateoutsidethevacuum Год назад
Enjoy your project!
@johntyjp
@johntyjp 11 месяцев назад
Having done some myself, Nice to watch someone else with the patience to do it! Well presented !🧐
@nateoutsidethevacuum
@nateoutsidethevacuum 11 месяцев назад
Thank you! I always forget how much work it is.
@SST11B
@SST11B Год назад
Fantastic work, and a joy to watch! But mentally, I keep going "88 parts, then times two, or three..."and I am more amazed that you keep it together (and can put it back together!). Really cool to watch, and much respect for your attention to details and having pride in your work, you sir are a craftsman, not just a RU-vidr. But I'm glad you are a RU-vidr, but, well, shit, you know what I mean 😂
@nateoutsidethevacuum
@nateoutsidethevacuum Год назад
Thank you for the kind words! The tedium of the work certainly pushes my short attention span to its limits.
@Mechsounds
@Mechsounds Год назад
Assembly and test please. All your episodes are very informative and educational.Thanks from DownUnder in sunny Melbourne.
@nateoutsidethevacuum
@nateoutsidethevacuum Год назад
Will do! Thanks for watching from across the world!
@jhonwask
@jhonwask Год назад
Your videos are great! I was always intrigued by the mechanics of a player piano. Your knowledge has brought about great insight making me want to tackle one of those old beasts and make it into a beauty.
@nateoutsidethevacuum
@nateoutsidethevacuum Год назад
I'm glad I could share some inspiration. Go for it! There are plenty out there to choose from.
@jhonwask
@jhonwask Год назад
@@nateoutsidethevacuum I hope to retire next year do that.
@nateoutsidethevacuum
@nateoutsidethevacuum Год назад
@@jhonwask congratulations! It makes sense to wait until you've got more free time.
@bpark10001
@bpark10001 Год назад
The way to remove the cloth from old pneumatics (when you want to re-use the boards) is to sane the cloth off with belt/disc sander.
@peterfriswell2875
@peterfriswell2875 10 месяцев назад
Love your work Nate and I also appreciate your sense of humour, it makes for light hearted viewing and in addition, your really clear explanations of the process. I’m slowly working my way through your set of videos and I’m just blown away by how clever and intricate the design of our player pianos is…I’ve got a few of my own. Thanks for your efforts
@nateoutsidethevacuum
@nateoutsidethevacuum 10 месяцев назад
Thank you! I'm glad I could spread some joy.
@dougsmith1071
@dougsmith1071 Год назад
Nate, I agree with awl of the comments. Please show all steps, I am learning so much! And keep those puns rolling!
@nateoutsidethevacuum
@nateoutsidethevacuum Год назад
Point taken. Thanks Doug!
@iainarms
@iainarms Год назад
Yes please, string this series out for as long as possible. I'm loving every moment. Also, can you take a look at the revival playlist order please, they are all mixed up at the moment
@nateoutsidethevacuum
@nateoutsidethevacuum Год назад
It's on my to-do list to clean that up, thanks!
@Mrcaffinebean
@Mrcaffinebean Год назад
Nate I will watch any video you make buddy!
@nateoutsidethevacuum
@nateoutsidethevacuum Год назад
Very kind of you!
@pauljames2229
@pauljames2229 Год назад
Need you ask? Of course we want to see the bench testing❤ 😂
@nateoutsidethevacuum
@nateoutsidethevacuum Год назад
I'm lucky to have some real diehard fans here!
@josephblack2757
@josephblack2757 Год назад
"Give it my awl" I appreciate you so much
@nateoutsidethevacuum
@nateoutsidethevacuum Год назад
Poke! Thanks Pal.
@shangyien
@shangyien Год назад
Thanks for another great episode! I hope we can see how you regulate the stack to the piano action.
@nateoutsidethevacuum
@nateoutsidethevacuum Год назад
Thank you! Yes, I'll be sure to touch on that next time.
@arnhemseptember2009
@arnhemseptember2009 Год назад
Looking perfect!!
@nateoutsidethevacuum
@nateoutsidethevacuum Год назад
Thank you! Soon to be hidden away in the piano.
@dcallan812
@dcallan812 Год назад
Its very handy at about the 10 min mark that you can buy a box of perfectly sized strips of cloth for the bellows. who of thunk 🤷‍♂ 🤣🤣🤣🤣 You know we all want to see a bench test. Great video 2x👍
@nateoutsidethevacuum
@nateoutsidethevacuum Год назад
I wish more parts would come that way. Wink wink!
@dcallan812
@dcallan812 Год назад
@@nateoutsidethevacuum 🤣 👍
@jklingeroo77
@jklingeroo77 7 месяцев назад
I greatly enjoy all your videos, and as a player rebuilder myself, I'm always interested to see what other folks use in their techniques and materials, especially with silicone sheeting being used more and more for tight valve and gasket work. That being said, I'm curious as to your workshop. Did you inherit/take over a pre-existing piano restorer's setup? You've got an impressive work space and expansive supplies/parts/tooling selection. While I believe you to be a bit younger than I, what I'm seeing seems to be something akin to a workshop belonging a long-experienced veteran. If you indeed started from scratch and built this wonderland from the ground up, then BRAVO I say! There are less and less rebuilders of these wonderful machines these days with their collections being scattered to the 7 winds, at best, but usually being hauled away. I applaud what you've done, and anticipate what you've yet to do.
@nateoutsidethevacuum
@nateoutsidethevacuum 7 месяцев назад
Thank you so much for watching and taking the time to comment. I've built my "toolbox" from the ground up. I have been working on player pianos for 10 years now and have been full-time for 5 years.
@andrewbarrett1537
@andrewbarrett1537 5 месяцев назад
Nate is the protege' of the late Don Barton of Barton Player Piano Co. of the Twin Cities (Minneapolis / St Paul). Although- I don't know how many of his tools have been inherited or bought from there and how many he got on his own, but certainly this is his own home workshop. But anyway Nate isn't totally self taught here. I think he ably keeps the tradition going now that Mr Barton's company is gone with his retirement and passing.
@revchrismerchant
@revchrismerchant Год назад
Great video content. I have use the nylon cloth and plastic glue on a Duo-art stack and it plays very strong. I didn't care for the speed it took to set up. Still prefer using the hide glue and rubber cloth for speed. I use a bench belt sander to clean up the edges of the pneumatics. Makes short work of 88. Keep up the good work. Hate to see this trade vanish..
@nateoutsidethevacuum
@nateoutsidethevacuum Год назад
Thanks Chris! Yes, the synthetic glue is definitely slow to grab.
@ruhlfamilyfarm8047
@ruhlfamilyfarm8047 Год назад
Hi Nate, do you have a suggestion for treating the leather nuts to prevent corrosion of the metal push rods? In examining my 34 year old rebuild of my Standard action, the nuts have moderately to severely corroded the push rods. I would rather not go with plastic nuts if I can treat the new leather nuts somehow to prevent this corrosion over the years. Also, PBS should start a series called "This Old Player Piano" starring YOU! You have the personality, wit and knowledge to pull it off! Your projects are very interesting and show all the excellent craftsmanship like Norm Abrams did on "This Old House" and "New Yankee Workshop". A show like that (or even a one time documentary) would help promote and save old player pianos! Cheers! Chip in PA.
@nateoutsidethevacuum
@nateoutsidethevacuum Год назад
Hi Chip! Thanks for the very kind words! It could be fun to do a "bigger and better" show like that. As far as the crusty nuts go, my recommendation would be to replace them. I've seen cases where the threads have almost completely corroded away because of modern leather.
@AAErikCO
@AAErikCO Год назад
Pneumatics look great! I vote bench test!
@nateoutsidethevacuum
@nateoutsidethevacuum Год назад
Thanks! It's in the works.
@Mrcaffinebean
@Mrcaffinebean Год назад
I ran across the devils phlegm on my player the other day the nipple block for the tracking mechanism. I don’t understand why someone would just assume that part should be permanent.
@nateoutsidethevacuum
@nateoutsidethevacuum Год назад
Ouch! Usually it's from ignorance, carelessness, or desperation.
@wurly164
@wurly164 Год назад
First off, you're too young to tell dad jokes, but keep them coming...because I'm a dad. I see you used Poplar for the pneumatic's, is this what was used originally? Now that you have all pneumatic's , what will you do with the oldmatics? Ba da boom. Great video thanks for making these.
@nateoutsidethevacuum
@nateoutsidethevacuum Год назад
Ha! Thanks for the laugh today! From what I can tell they used poplar originally. It's a nice species to work with.
@MichaelMcCloy
@MichaelMcCloy Год назад
If you're making an episode on assembly and testing I think that will be awesome! Everything so far has been so thorough, seeing every step of the process is fun to watch and also super informative. I wonder how many pianos out there will wind up getting restored in the future because of your work making these videos? I can tell you for sure there's at least one underway already that is benefiting from this!
@jorgeandrade20
@jorgeandrade20 Год назад
Make that two!
@mendozaleedap
@mendozaleedap Год назад
and a third here....
@nateoutsidethevacuum
@nateoutsidethevacuum Год назад
Wow! I'm glad I can share some inspiration, just as others have done for me.
@mendozaleedap
@mendozaleedap Год назад
@@nateoutsidethevacuum I’ve gotten the book about player pianos and am working my way through now…. I am interested in the sources for your silicone sheets and fabrics. Your videos have the best balance of entertainment and information! Well done
@nateoutsidethevacuum
@nateoutsidethevacuum Год назад
www.ebay.com/itm/131856892353 I hope this link works. This is the gasket material I use. The cloth is the thin variety from the DC Ramey website. dcramey.com/Supplies2.html
@greggilbert78
@greggilbert78 Год назад
Hi Nate - Another enjoyable episode! I especially like that you put the pneumatic cloth strips in the "Strip Polka" QRS box. Would you consider telling us where you're getting your plastic (nylon?) nuts? Thanks
@nateoutsidethevacuum
@nateoutsidethevacuum Год назад
Hi Greg! Thanks for watching so closely. I get the plastic nuts from OSI, but have also gotten "thread forming" nylon nuts from McMaster-Carr in the past.
@andrewbarrett1537
@andrewbarrett1537 Год назад
For any readers not “in the know”: OSI = Organ Supply Industries in Pennsylvania.
@billgottesman6106
@billgottesman6106 Год назад
Hello Nate, can you say something about using plastic nuts in place of leather nuts? Is it to prevent corrosion on the rod? Do the plastic nuts have adequate friction to stay in place? Are they 3-d printed, or off-the-shelf threaded nuts? By the way, I really enjoyed your sunny side up joke a few episodes back.
@nateoutsidethevacuum
@nateoutsidethevacuum Год назад
Hi Bill. Thanks for watching! The plastic nuts are to avoid corrosion caused by leather nuts. They are a very tight fit. I got them from OSI, but have also used "thread-forming nylon nuts" from OSI in the past.
@danielmkubacki
@danielmkubacki Год назад
What the difference? Taste. LOL
@SnickasBah
@SnickasBah 8 месяцев назад
Get rid of their old graffiti lol. Those hooligans.
@nateoutsidethevacuum
@nateoutsidethevacuum 8 месяцев назад
The best restoration is one that doesn't look like it's been done.
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