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@TheSMSpider
@TheSMSpider 9 месяцев назад
People tend to forget Steven Jackson being the rams all time leading rusher.
@alexhennigh5242
@alexhennigh5242 9 месяцев назад
Put him on an actual winning team and the man is easily a 1st ballot Hall of Famer
@UpsidedownTreehouse
@UpsidedownTreehouse 9 месяцев назад
If he didnt play for all those shitty rams teams and actually had playoff wins he's easily in the hall of fame
@raymelpoche9415
@raymelpoche9415 9 месяцев назад
I remember him at Oregon State lol
@goldwerewolf8651
@goldwerewolf8651 9 месяцев назад
literally 8 straight seasons with over 1k yards and nobody talked about it
@goldwerewolf8651
@goldwerewolf8651 9 месяцев назад
​@alexhennigh5242 agreed he came to that team at the wrong time. The Rams were one of the best teams before he arrived and a few years after he left they had a great team again
@praetorian9823
@praetorian9823 9 месяцев назад
Ahman Green is another incredible Packers player that people forget existed. He was like 113 yards short of a 2000 yard season, but no one seems to remember him. Him and Fred Taylor are disgustingly underrated.
@blazedbeye3412
@blazedbeye3412 9 месяцев назад
Add Roger Craig to that list too
@JordanJMyers
@JordanJMyers 9 месяцев назад
Fred needs in the HoF asap
@beastmodeforever8674
@beastmodeforever8674 9 месяцев назад
Michael Turner on the Falcons and Chargers
@CJY213
@CJY213 9 месяцев назад
It was the same year that Jamal Lewis (another kinda underrated RB) got 2k yards so no one ever talks about Ahman Green that year. He had 1883 rushing yards and almost 400 recieving yards. Green was a hell of a back from an era of awesome RBs
@newagain9964
@newagain9964 9 месяцев назад
Fred Taylor was a baller. Green had a few really good seasons. 2 diff class.
@scottanderson9887
@scottanderson9887 9 месяцев назад
The "He did what?" call for Freeman will forever be iconic
@h.bblaze8969
@h.bblaze8969 9 месяцев назад
Jimmy Smith needs more love, he was truly elite but often gets overlooked because he played in Moss/T.O/Harrison era.
@MonsieurBlain
@MonsieurBlain 9 месяцев назад
Seriously. He was very productive
@athleticsoul6199
@athleticsoul6199 8 месяцев назад
Legend!! He used to run his routes at night time.
@David-sl6xf
@David-sl6xf 9 месяцев назад
Awesome idea for a video series. The Hall of Very Good players deserve their recognition, many of them played on a HoF level for portions of their careers!
@nick94nw
@nick94nw 9 месяцев назад
Honestly this series feels like a hall of very good
@kingdingaling2469
@kingdingaling2469 8 месяцев назад
Brunel , MOORE & Jackson should be in The HOF They had Great career Jackson on turd teams Moore with the worst QB’s possible and He still set records Moore was So Dope
@michaelwoods2790
@michaelwoods2790 9 месяцев назад
Patrick Willis and Navarro Bowman linebacker duo for the 49ers was so lethal and fun to watch
@Luke-cu7bf
@Luke-cu7bf 7 месяцев назад
that entire defense was insane. Offense too. Crazy they never won championships
@ValleyboizAmbassdor
@ValleyboizAmbassdor 6 месяцев назад
Complete utter dominance i always skipped playing them in Madden 😂
@tomato2517
@tomato2517 6 месяцев назад
Pat Willis, Navarro Bowman, Aldon Smith and Ahmad Brooks. I’ve always said that’s the best linebacker lineup of all time. Imagine if injuries and early retirements didn’t screw over those Harbaugh Niners. So much talent gone to waste
@Cynsham
@Cynsham 2 месяца назад
@@tomato2517Imagine if Aldon Smith would have gotten himself together instead of throwing his career away due to off field incidents
@maliktalaat1
@maliktalaat1 9 месяцев назад
Little known fact about Jessie Tuggle: his son is Grady Jarrett who has been a perennial pro bowler for the Falcons, surprised that wasn’t mentioned
@TheBandicootNerd131
@TheBandicootNerd131 9 месяцев назад
Grady Jarrett is his son? That's cool.
@joshualewis7692
@joshualewis7692 9 месяцев назад
Wow! I didn't know that!
@gizzlemaanee7709
@gizzlemaanee7709 9 месяцев назад
Wooow i always wondered why nobody mentioned Jessie Tuggle, to know Grady Jarret is his son is crazy
@thetruthinwonderland
@thetruthinwonderland 9 месяцев назад
Considering his dad’s pedigree, I was surprised GJ lasted until the fifth round (or thereabouts).
@KTF0
@KTF0 7 месяцев назад
Did not know that. Pretty crazy that he ended up with the Falcons.
@BazookaTooth707
@BazookaTooth707 9 месяцев назад
Bowman was so beast that after suffering from the injury that ultimately cut his career short he came back and led the league in tackles. His knee couldn't hold up anymore after that, but he truly gave the niners all he had left. He'll always be legend here in thr Bay Area
@lukesilvay6039
@lukesilvay6039 9 месяцев назад
It’s wild Corey Dillion never made an all pro team, in 2004 he was on the best team in the league and had 1600 rushing yards and 12 touchdowns, also has 290 yards in 3 playoff games
@canubeetquad
@canubeetquad 9 месяцев назад
Believe it or not Curtis Martin, Shaun Alexander, Ladanian Tomlinson and Tiki Barber all had arguably better seasons than him. Probably the greatest RB season ever. Edgerin James and Clinton Portis were also in their prime and had great seasons. Now Imagine Thurman Thomas's entire career shadowed by Barry and Emmitt.
@jrad410
@jrad410 9 месяцев назад
Best RB the Pats had in the dynasty era
@kghostthegreat
@kghostthegreat 9 месяцев назад
And his nephew currently plays in Green Bay and wears the same number
@newagain9964
@newagain9964 9 месяцев назад
@@canubeetquadnobody forgot Dillion was elite tho🤷‍♂️
@theangrypelican5270
@theangrypelican5270 7 месяцев назад
​​@@canubeetquadhe still led the league in YPG and won a SB in 2004. He could have gotten an AP nod in 2004 and no one would really have a reason to be upset about it. Tiki and Alexander were NFC anyway.
@jstewlly4747
@jstewlly4747 9 месяцев назад
To whoever witnessed Seahawks-49ers 2010-2020 rivalry........we were so lucky to see the last of great defense omg Bowman was a dawg an animal
@markmiranda9461
@markmiranda9461 9 месяцев назад
It was the most heated I’ve felt a rivalry. Fans hated each other, players hated each other, even the damn coaches hated each other. We lost more than we won but damn it was a good time. Most the time is ended with the most ridiculous Russell Wilson plays where he runs around for 12 seconds and throws a 50 yard bomb while the circus music plays. That’s guy made me the maddest I’ve ever been at a football game many times. It got ridiculous and he did it to everyone for a 4 year span.
@othorl
@othorl 9 месяцев назад
​@@markmiranda9461I'm so glad we caused you that much pain, mam I hate the niners. Hope the rivalry continues for many years it's awesome
@meatwad42069
@meatwad42069 9 месяцев назад
@@markmiranda9461 as a seahawks fan that was living in niner country, can confirm….. 😂😂😂 - feel like there was more gas to our 2010s rivalry than any other in the league that era by far
@fbapayne3154
@fbapayne3154 9 месяцев назад
As a Niners fan living in cowgirl country watching it with nothing but cowgirl fans that game still stings cause Bowman recovered a fumble then got injured during that play by Dashon Goldson reckless ass if I'm not mistaken which led to a hawks player literally taking the ball from Bowman while he was laying on the ground smh That play caused a rule change that same off-season
@williamfiske7347
@williamfiske7347 9 месяцев назад
Hope to see Bob Sanders in the next episode. I was a little kid when i first remember watching his highlights. I grew up a Patriots fan and naturally disliked the Colts, but that man was a true missle on the field and its a shame what injuries did to his career.
@thecoolbro77
@thecoolbro77 9 месяцев назад
Bro sameeee lol!
@mitchellbaker9434
@mitchellbaker9434 8 месяцев назад
There was a time when there wasn't a more valuable player in the league. That's because the way he played at his size led to so many injuries. Without him it was a completely different defense
@babycakessr.8704
@babycakessr.8704 7 месяцев назад
Well got your wish! 😂
@reggiegarcia07
@reggiegarcia07 9 месяцев назад
Anytime throwback posts is a damn good day
@jennyanydots2389
@jennyanydots2389 9 месяцев назад
Usually it means someones dawg got they teef beet right out they mouf son
@sports3117
@sports3117 9 месяцев назад
Mark Brunell was an elite quarterback in the late 90s in Jacksonville, and was also pretty nifty as a runner
@lucyloo2228
@lucyloo2228 9 месяцев назад
4 straight playoffs, 3 straight pro bowls
@Hiipower23
@Hiipower23 9 месяцев назад
Yeah I liked brunell he was lefty mobile
@carlosduarte4181
@carlosduarte4181 9 месяцев назад
Fred Taylor was also elite
@packersauburneric3625
@packersauburneric3625 9 месяцев назад
Back when the Packers were the backup QB factory of the NFL
@FreewayBrent
@FreewayBrent 9 месяцев назад
@@carlosduarte4181 Those Jaguars were loaded with elite offensive talent. Brunell, Fred Taylor, Jimmy Smith, Keenan McCardell...James Stewart was pretty good too.
@skyefox
@skyefox 9 месяцев назад
Mark Brunell, Jimmy Smith, Keenan McCardell, Fred Taylor. That whole Jags team was full of underrated players.
@Riles3152
@Riles3152 8 месяцев назад
And the only guy from that Jaguar era to make the HOF, Tony Boselli
@aarondigby5054
@aarondigby5054 4 месяца назад
​@@Riles3152IKR, the HOF is a joke.
@greengandalf9116
@greengandalf9116 9 месяцев назад
0:00 - Steven Jackson - Rams RB 2:01- Ben Coates - Patriots TE 3:35 - Herman Moore - Lions WR 5:19 - Corey Dillon - Bengals RB 7:04 - Jessie Tuggle - Falcons LB 8:35 - Roy Green - Cardinals WR 10:14 - Mark Brunell - Jacksonville QB 12:09 - Dexter Manley - Washington DL 14:08 - Antonio Freeman - Packers WR 15:45 - Navorro Bowman - 49ers LB 17:20 - Terry Allen - Vikings/Washington RB 19:01 - Wes Chandler - Saints/Chargers RB 20:38 - Randy Gradishar - Broncos LB 21:33 - Brandon Lloyd - 49ers/Broncos WR 23:08 - Pat Swilling - Saints LB 24:45 - Ricky Waters - Eagles/49ers/Seahawks RB 26:57 - Patrick Surtain - Dolphins/Chiefs CB 28:51 - Lorenzo Neal - Saints/Chargers FB 30:55 - Ken Anderson - Bengals QB 32:32 - Justin Smith - 49ers DL 34:00 - Curt Warner - Seahawks RB 35:29 - Eric Allen - Saints/Eagles/Raiders CB 36:40 - Wayne Ghrebet - Jets WR 38:04 - Al Baker - Lions DL
@hobbs12cats
@hobbs12cats 9 месяцев назад
Wes Chandler is a WR
@javierfva7500
@javierfva7500 9 месяцев назад
God bless the people who take the time to do this. God bless you
@unlimitedpower978
@unlimitedpower978 9 месяцев назад
I love how like half of these guys were in the same version of Madden I had as a kid
@brianfisher7498
@brianfisher7498 9 месяцев назад
Thx bud 🤙🏻
@douglasdavis9092
@douglasdavis9092 9 месяцев назад
Mark brunell was that guy
@thriftaddicted7801
@thriftaddicted7801 9 месяцев назад
If Steven Jackson was on a good team he'd be a HOFer. I'll always think he deserves the nod, even if he did ignore me outside of a hotel when I was 14😂
@ArenaPhoenix
@ArenaPhoenix 9 месяцев назад
😭😭😭
@mariosnum1fan
@mariosnum1fan 9 месяцев назад
Yeah, he was only with the rams as a fringe good team that 04’ season. Since then not really on any good teams other than his final season with the pats, but even then, it was limited action since he signed late with the team. He was a stud for sure!
@thriftaddicted7801
@thriftaddicted7801 9 месяцев назад
@@mariosnum1fan absolutely. He was that good DISPITE the team he was on
@thriftaddicted7801
@thriftaddicted7801 9 месяцев назад
@@EricStuder1989 ☝️
@fartgod6983
@fartgod6983 9 месяцев назад
Lloyd was such an unbelievable athlete. He just had nobody to throw it to him consistently
@ValleyboizAmbassdor
@ValleyboizAmbassdor 6 месяцев назад
He hand some of the greatest hands I've ever witnessed, it seemed no matter who covered him he's gonna CATCH it 😂
@brickwallblitz
@brickwallblitz 9 месяцев назад
Apparently people forget Torry Holt was elite because it’s been 8 years and he’s still not in the hall of fame.
@bss6887
@bss6887 9 месяцев назад
he should be in
@Ihatesports420
@Ihatesports420 9 месяцев назад
whoever thought of this series idea deserves a raise
@charlesscott7204
@charlesscott7204 8 месяцев назад
I love the ‘Almost but not quite hall of fame’ guys , lots of what ifs !
@ArenaPhoenix
@ArenaPhoenix 9 месяцев назад
Was literally watching Brandon Lloyd highlights not even an hour before this was uploaded 😂
@Wutang3737
@Wutang3737 9 месяцев назад
He made some great plays but he was never elite
@jennyanydots2389
@jennyanydots2389 9 месяцев назад
What highlights? His porn videotape highlights? I heard he was hangin' some low beef out there... even Hill Dawg (chillary Clinton) is rumored to be in on it.
@ArenaPhoenix
@ArenaPhoenix 9 месяцев назад
@@Wutang3737his catching was elite one of favorite wide receiver of all time
@dasun13
@dasun13 9 месяцев назад
​@@Wutang3737he has the most elite hands ever 👐🏾 👐🏾 👐🏾 Those are also Wu hands btw Wu-Tang Forever 💪🏾
@finleyjeanbatiste5197
@finleyjeanbatiste5197 9 месяцев назад
@@Wutang3737 hating ass mentality
@kill4k1
@kill4k1 9 месяцев назад
if steven jackson played for quite literally any other team he would be talked about as much as someone like corey dillon
@kill4k1
@kill4k1 9 месяцев назад
nvm corey dillons in this video too 😭
@g00gleisgayerthanaids56
@g00gleisgayerthanaids56 9 месяцев назад
Power backs are a dying breed, they were a rare sight even at the height of jacksons career, people dont talk about em because they generally arent as exciting as elusive backs with speed and fancy moves. They also tend to have a lot more carries for their yardage with smaller yard per carry averages which makes them stand out less when comparing stats. Plus, there just arent that many st louis rams fans anymore, cant blame em after they lost their team. Its a shame, i loved watching power runners like jackson and alstott run people over.
@astrostar49
@astrostar49 9 месяцев назад
Other dominant guys during the 90's that aren't talked about enough are Chris Warren, Leslie O'Neal, Wayne Martin, Tony Richardson, Larry Centers, Sam Gash, Kevin Carter, Chris Spielman, Michael Dean Perry, Bruce Armstrong, Richmond Webb, Karl Mecklenburg, Shane Conlan, Rob Moore...
@canubeetquad
@canubeetquad 9 месяцев назад
Yea i think you're reaching a bit with some of these guys
@whitehot4430
@whitehot4430 9 месяцев назад
Tony Richardson was the man. Best FB I've seen apart from Mike Alstott
@videogamevalley7523
@videogamevalley7523 9 месяцев назад
People really forget about Larry Centers, even tho he was listed as a FB he was a WR in my mind isnt he still the only “FB” with 100 receptions in season. Chris Spielman was an excellent MLB in Detroit, the problem was in played in Detroit and he was still good even when he went to the Bills. Kevin Carter was a major part of those championship Rams teams, Leslie O’Neal was a great DE playing with guys like Junior Seau and Rodney Harrison. Karl Mecklenburg was a key part of the Denver Broncos whose defense was always in the top ten. Tony Richardson was a staple in KC. Chris Warren was a top ten RB. These dudes was dominant (or the very least known dudes in the league who made plays and were game planned for) in their own right.
@pp3k3jamail
@pp3k3jamail 8 месяцев назад
​@@canubeetquadhe's not reaching on none of these guys, all these guys he named were really good NFL players and some had great seasons. Stop being a contrarian.
@thepubknight6144
@thepubknight6144 7 месяцев назад
Leslie O'Neal is like 10 on the all time sack list too I believe
@fathermoon1876
@fathermoon1876 9 месяцев назад
if there is an episode 2 gotta add Denver's Al Wilson. he was right there with Ray Lewis and Brian Urlacher
@astrostar49
@astrostar49 9 месяцев назад
True. Big three of that era are probably Lewis, Urlacher, and Thomas. For a while though Al Wilson could hang with them.
@aklestinec
@aklestinec 9 месяцев назад
I see Arian Foster is being quickly forgotten over the past years since he retired and it’s too bad. When he broke in with Houston, he was the best RB in the league instantly. Only played 6 seasons. Was a phenomenal big play RB.
@tomato2517
@tomato2517 6 месяцев назад
I think he was undrafted too. Such a consistent top tier performer but doesn’t get enough recognition now
@autisticgamer6648
@autisticgamer6648 9 месяцев назад
I always loved Steven Jackson as a kid, him and Michael Turner
@jstewlly4747
@jstewlly4747 9 месяцев назад
Hold on JUSTIN TUCK CHASED LT DOWN WITH NEAL BLOCKING......DAMMIT HE NEED TO BE ON LIST!!!!!
@just_jertie
@just_jertie 9 месяцев назад
Steven Jackson is probably my favorite player of all time quite honestly. I genuinely believe he would've gotten so much more acclaim if he wasn't on horrible teams year after year. Those Rams teams literally set the league record for lowest win percentage over a five year stretch; and Jackson still managed to get over 10k yards in his career. It's so underrated.
@g00gleisgayerthanaids56
@g00gleisgayerthanaids56 9 месяцев назад
The teams werent bad, it was bonehead coaching and staffing problems. Martz was a solid coach but he had his head in the clouds and only cared about offensive weapons. He could build a team but failed to really utilize it. Big problem was getting rid of kurt warner, and not utilizing jacksons physicality with faulks elusiveness. The greatest show on turf was just easy to read, if faulk lined up its either a short pass or a run outside, if jackson lined up it was a run inside. Their reciever core was getting old with bruce and hakim having less than ideal hands and speed, and slow slot recievers that also struggled to catch. Hard to blame them with marc bulger leading the show, he had a few good moments but iirc he folded in clutch moments which cost a lot of games. They had some defensive weapons at d line, lb, and safety but lacked depth in the corners and didnt have a good d coach to really work em into solid contenders. Seemed like martz relied on player skill just a bit too much.
@JoeHardacre
@JoeHardacre 9 месяцев назад
I started following the rams as a young lad on the tail end of Marshall Faulk's career, and Jackson became my favourite player - hes still probably my favourite player ever. Thankfully I got to see him play in London a couple of times
@just_jertie
@just_jertie 9 месяцев назад
@@g00gleisgayerthanaids56 Martz was gone and an offensive coordinator for the Lions by the season Jackson took over as lead back in the Rams offense ('06). The years I was essentially referring to were the Scott Linehan and Steve Spagnuolo years. ('06 - '11). But I do basically agree with what you had to say about Martz and his system. He believed in it too strongly, not willing to accommodate what it ask of the players no matter who it is and what they bring to the table.
@just_jertie
@just_jertie 9 месяцев назад
@@JoeHardacre Based lad
@astrostar49
@astrostar49 9 месяцев назад
Great spotlight on these players. Man Ben Coates was so good. Same with Brent Jones, and Jay Novacek during the 90's. Another tight end that is sadly forgotten about is Steve Jordan, father of Cam Jordan. Steve had an awesome career for the Vikings.
@wtvdam
@wtvdam 9 месяцев назад
Ben Coates was awesome. Imagine him and Gronk on the field together for the Patriots. Now that’s unfair to the opposition.
@kirinirik10
@kirinirik10 9 месяцев назад
Nice to see Bowman get some love
@princepayne4262
@princepayne4262 9 месяцев назад
HE DID WHAT!? Is one of my favorite reactions from a commentator and their “OHHHHHHH” when they saw he caught it makes that play so much better. Also Neal should be in the hall him and alsttott truly deserves it not only we’re they the last two true fullbacks but they were great we often overrate the last of everything but the last two FBs were actually just great put them both in the hall
@cehamlet89
@cehamlet89 9 месяцев назад
Mike Alstott and Lorenzo Neal in the same backfield was unfair to their opponents
@tomato2517
@tomato2517 6 месяцев назад
Yea Al Michaels call there was the greatest football call of all time imo, and that’s saying something. Maybe one of the best in American sports
@Fireyninjadog
@Fireyninjadog 9 месяцев назад
Erik McMillan with the jets was an amazing free safety. His rookie year saw him intercept 8 passes, including 3 in 1 game vs dan marino. His first 4 years saw him snag 22 balls, 5 of which were ran back for tds. He won defensive rookie of the year in 1988, and made the pro bowl twice, on jets teams that weren't what you would call "good"
@beauboone5332
@beauboone5332 9 месяцев назад
They ripped me off!
@Fireyninjadog
@Fireyninjadog 9 месяцев назад
@beauboone5332 agreed. I love your video on kenny anderson, Beau. You take in-depth looks at things. You did it first
@breakingamer3550
@breakingamer3550 9 месяцев назад
It's hard for me, to forget most of these players, they left such an impression on the field that I'll never forget.
@SPTO
@SPTO 9 месяцев назад
This is a great series! I hope you guys will be very dedicated about it. Some thoughts on some of the players on here: Ben "Winter" Coates: I loved watching that guy playing back in the day. He was a very physical but talented pass receiving TE. When you think of the Drew Bledsoe era Coates is one of the guys you immediately think of. Herman Moore: A really good player however he's probably the poster boy for "stats accumulator". In fact the Lions receiving corps of his era are probably the biggest example of that. Corey Dillon: For years it seemed he was the ONLY weapon Cincy had. He was basically their entire offense for far too long to the point that by the end he was showing the wear and tear of being used up. At least he got his ring in NE. I really hope his tiff with the fans in Cincy doesn't last too long in regards to being named to the Bengals ring of honor. Jesse Tuggle: A very physical and fun player to watch and someone who really gave it his all. His son was also a great contributor in the CFL winning a Grey Cup with the Argos in 2017. Roy Green: Now there's a guy who's totally under the radar. He doesn't get mentioned much at all these days. Mark Brunell: Now there was a guy who was a really good QB for a number of years. I always felt he was slept on even in his prime. The big upset in the '96 playoffs against the Broncos was a real shocker. Antonio Freeman: Man that guy made so many great catches and that MNF catch is in my top 5 greatest catches ever. Terry Allen: Holy crap! You really dug around for this one. Even in his day he was very underrated. You look at his stats and think "Wait, he did that?!". Wes Chandler: He was sort of the forgotten man in that offense at times and that allowed him to put up the HUGE numbers he did in SD. I've heard some say he was the most physically gifted guy in that WR group. Randy Gradishar: Why isn't he in the HOF? Pat Swilling: That man was one of the most FEARED defensive players in the league for a time. Rickey Watters: A guy who should be in the HOF by now but he never played the media game and was often at odds with his teams AND said media. He was in some ways the RB equivalent to Brett Favre in that he played a very emotional intense style of ball. Lorenzo Neal: Man you guys are doing such a great job with this first episode. Neal was just a HAMMER out of the backfield and was one of the better blockers around. Curt Warner: A steady and productive back. He was the PERFECT guy for Chuck Knox's "Ground Chuck" offense in Seattle. Eric Allen: That guy played the game like his life depended on it. His lack of stature led to him being picked on at times but be wary of that as he'd make you PAY eventually. Wayne Chrebet: I've always said that he was the NFL version of the CFL's Ben Cahoon. They were of similar stature and style of play in their respective leagues. Big Bubba Baker: I've heard him interviewed on a podcast. He seems like such a humble and great guy. He isn't even all that bitter about not getting the sack record but he IS confused why the NFL won't recognize his achievement after the sack totals was confirmed by football researchers. I know this was a super long comment. Next time i'll have to be more judicious. This is a GREAT series so far.
@davidroberts7282
@davidroberts7282 9 месяцев назад
If the NFL had begun counting sacks as an official statistic 5 years sooner then they did, great defensive players like Bubba Baker, and Jacob Green(drafted by Seattle in 1980 and played there for 13 seasons) would likely be in the HOF right now. Ricky Watters was a great player, and an offensive contributor but IMHO, if you were to ask him now, he'd probably say he made a mistake leaving SB XXIX champs Niners for Eagles via FA after the 1994 season. Although he prospered in Philly his first two seasons, the media there often accused Watters of being selfish, self-centered, and overly brash, and as T.O. found a decade later, that doesn't work as a sound, player PR strategy for Eagles fans and Philadelphia sports MSM. Sometimes, Watters could come across as aloof, arrogant, and cocky and didnt always exert 100% on every offensive play (see his alligator-arming a sure 3rd and long pass down the middle pass vs Tampa in Week 2 or 3 of the 1995 season). When asked by media afterwards why he didnt try harder to catch a 3rd down pass that wouldve extended a late drive that mightve led to Eagles winning the game, Watters replied, "For Whom? For What?" After that post-game early season snafu, most Eagles fans, teammates, assistants and writers never forgot, forgave his snide, flippant comments. Waters had a far better, likely more enjoyable career with S.F. and Seattle, he's remembered with a lot more fondness, appreciation there. Watters, again, if he do it all over again, wouldve stayed with 49ers instead of chasing more money via FA, I think he wouldve ended being a lot happier. They sort of inferred this when they brought up his entry on this anthology, but Curt Warner tearing his ACL in Week 1 of 1984 season likely cut out 3-4 years from his career. Even though he returned and some excellent seasons from 1985-89, one could tell he wasnt the same dynamic, duel-purpose RB he'd been in his rookie 1983 season. Playing in one of the moat difficult, then-hazardous, hard artificial turf surfaces in old Kingdome prevented him from having an Eric Dickerson HOF-caliber career, because even when he returned in 1985, he hardly ever got injured again. Warner would've played possibly as long as Dickerson did if not for his ACL injury and Seattle wouldn't dropped out of playoff contention by the early 90's if he'd remained and Dave Krieg doesn't get traded to Kansas City. Wayne Chrebet was the Adam Thielan of his generation.
@davidroberts7282
@davidroberts7282 9 месяцев назад
Also, if Jessie Tuggle had played for a more successful, winning franchise during his very long, 14-year career like Denver, Washington, Philly, I think he'd be at least a likelier HOF candidate than a hit-or-miss borderline one he is now. He was a great, outstanding defensive stalwart that only played on 3 winning teams throughout his career. If you're a great, era-defining position player and you spend your entire career with a losing franchise like Falcons with a losing history, to make the HOF, you'd better make a lot of Pro Bowls, and play for a VERY, VERY long time. Guys like Jeff Van Note and Mike Kern, and also the late Claude Humphrey fall into that category.
@beauboone5332
@beauboone5332 9 месяцев назад
They ripped me off. I have a series dedicated to forgotten legends of the game.
@michaelallen8112
@michaelallen8112 9 месяцев назад
@@beauboone5332 yeah true but did u cover these
@beauboone5332
@beauboone5332 9 месяцев назад
@@michaelallen8112 I covered Mark Brunell and Ken Anderson.
@S.T-Money
@S.T-Money 9 месяцев назад
This is “ if you actually watch football, then you know about and how good these players were” type of video. These players deserves their flowers as well.
@derpy.1
@derpy.1 9 месяцев назад
YESSSSS, this is how you preserve these men in history. Not hall of famers, but legends none the less.
@ppldostuffs1602
@ppldostuffs1602 9 месяцев назад
I haven't watched the whole video yet but Neal Anderson deserves to be on the list, hes overshadowed because he succeeded Walter Payton in Chicago, but he made 4 straight bowls including a season with 1700 total yards one year!
@ha44y
@ha44y 9 месяцев назад
💯. My favourite player of all time
@steelcurtain187
@steelcurtain187 9 месяцев назад
This was a great idea for a series and it’s off to a nice start with this list! Love to see Herman moore, Ben Coates, brunell and Dexter Manley mentioned
@deepeyton
@deepeyton 9 месяцев назад
The NFL talent pool was so deep during the 90s and 00s.
@traxyboyzn-jn8hx
@traxyboyzn-jn8hx 9 месяцев назад
Couldn't agree more
@deepeyton
@deepeyton 9 месяцев назад
@@traxyboyzn-jn8hx the college football talent pool was deep too. Insanely deep
@Holycow8498
@Holycow8498 9 месяцев назад
I'm pretty sure despite the fact of being on teams that were successful being productive and elite the only reason Ricky Waters wasn't put in the hall of fame was the for who for what quote instead of his actual ability
@xremyyyx
@xremyyyx 9 месяцев назад
There's no forgetting these boys.
@calcaleb7041
@calcaleb7041 9 месяцев назад
Surtain like father like son 😊
@jaylouis8227
@jaylouis8227 9 месяцев назад
Steven Jackson in my opinion is the most underrated runningback in the history of the NFL. I was a St. Louis Rams fan and what people may not realize is that the offense literally ran through Steven Jackson all those years. Unfortunately because he played on terrible teams his entire time there, his accomplishments went largely unnoticed and he doesn't get the credit he deserves.
@ryanmuck
@ryanmuck 8 месяцев назад
Andre Johnson was an absolute beast for Houston
@GULLEYMANE
@GULLEYMANE 9 месяцев назад
can we please get some tim brown career highlights??? i feel like people have forgotten how great he truly was.
@markmiranda9461
@markmiranda9461 9 месяцев назад
Because most people who watch football weren’t alive lol. A true great. I’d love to have a Time Machine and see how these guys would fair in todays game.
@lukesilvay6039
@lukesilvay6039 9 месяцев назад
As a jets fans some other guys I would like to see. Ken O’Brien Freeman McNeil Thomas Jones Wesley Walker Emerson Boozer Al Toon Laverneaus Coles Santana Moss George Sauer Aaron Glenn Victor Green Kyle Clifton John Abraham David Harris Mo Lewis Not sure how many of these guys are considered elite but I think a few could be worth considering
@willardmatsaudza3101
@willardmatsaudza3101 9 месяцев назад
@@markmiranda9461I think older players would thrive in todays league due to the rule changes imagine Dan Marino passing in todays game.
@drunkenmmamaster419
@drunkenmmamaster419 9 месяцев назад
That dudes college highlights are crazy
@Miridafeo
@Miridafeo День назад
Last Heisman winner for Notre Dame. Truly one of the wr greats.
@PACNYY
@PACNYY 9 месяцев назад
Patrick Sustain was one of the best by far. He made that MIA secondary elite.
@slimischillin7753
@slimischillin7753 9 месяцев назад
He was also great for the chiefs for a few seasons
@PACNYY
@PACNYY 9 месяцев назад
@@slimischillin7753 Not really like he was in MIA.
@slimischillin7753
@slimischillin7753 9 месяцев назад
@@PACNYY he was great, the chiefs were just mid and didn't have the most national exposure. But those of us who watched every game know he was still great. Up until we got brandon flowers, Pat Surtain had the best technique that I've ever seen a chiefs db have up to that point. Also in Miami, he played with Jason Taylor and Zach Thomas. He didn't have a great pass rush when he was in kc. He mostly relied all on technique and intelligence when he was here.
@PACNYY
@PACNYY 9 месяцев назад
@@slimischillin7753 Without him MIA defense wouldn't be complete. He was just ok in KC nothing special.
@slimischillin7753
@slimischillin7753 9 месяцев назад
@@PACNYY yeah we just simply disagree on his time in kc and that's fine
@markmiranda9461
@markmiranda9461 9 месяцев назад
The niners from 2012-2013 with those two all pro MLB’s was truly the greatest MLB duo of all time. They use knock the snot out of guys but we’re amazing in pass protection. I miss those guys. Pat willis is the reason I started loving football (especially defense) because of him. Great player, even better person. He will be a HOFer and he will not wait as long as long as Thomas of the dolphins. It was 8 years but DROY, 6 all pros, and 8 pro bowls, a ridiculous amount of FF’s and int’s for how long he played. Him and Luke Keckley have identical stats and both need to be in.
@tomato2517
@tomato2517 6 месяцев назад
Pat Willis, Navarro Bowman, Aldon Smith and Ahmad Brooks. Insane talent at linebacker, imo the best linebacker core of all time
@marqusjohnson9461
@marqusjohnson9461 9 месяцев назад
I bet not forget Steven Jackson. Followed him since he played at Oregon State.
@guitar01able
@guitar01able 9 месяцев назад
Great idea 💡 for series!!! So many classic players that deserve some love!!
@calcaleb7041
@calcaleb7041 9 месяцев назад
Still waiting on that Randall Cunningham career highlight
@FreewayBrent
@FreewayBrent 9 месяцев назад
Brunell was so much fun to watch. Basically Steve Young-lite, and at times he played just as well as the 49er QB.
@traxyboyzn-jn8hx
@traxyboyzn-jn8hx 9 месяцев назад
Missed watching the LB duo of Bowman and Willis
@matthewnikitas8905
@matthewnikitas8905 9 месяцев назад
They were both monsters back in the day
@nickhess1702
@nickhess1702 9 месяцев назад
I don't think anyone forgot Steven Jackson was elite lol.
@Gungho73
@Gungho73 9 месяцев назад
The NFC West I thinks been on a higher pedestal in recent years. But for much of his prime, the West was argued to be a weaker division that had "lucky" entrants to the playoffs and SB and wasn't taken nearly as seriously, and his teams followed the Greatest Show on Turf. I think sadly give it a few more years, and people may not even understand he played in St Louis. To me it is easy to not forget he was a quality runner especially with whats happening to the position, but I grew up watching the NFC West so I'm a bit biased.
@raymondsmith8027
@raymondsmith8027 9 месяцев назад
It's a shame that Steven Jackson was on a bad team his whole career. That man was a monster on the field! We never got to see him on a playoff team(with the exception of 2004)...which was a shame. I wish he could've gotten out of St.Louis.
@matthewnikitas8905
@matthewnikitas8905 9 месяцев назад
He did play for the Patriots for a year or two but he was as far best his best then
@g00gleisgayerthanaids56
@g00gleisgayerthanaids56 9 месяцев назад
The rams were a good team, but the everchanging coaching staff and bonehead decision making really cut the legs out from under those boys. They never should have let warner go, they should have had jackson line up in fb for faulk and to add some nuance to the play calling. I get that faulk was old, injured, and on his way out, but he was still a threat and having an elusive back lining up behind a guy that runs over your linebackers can make defenses think twice and give your offense a lot of options. Had solid talent in the reciever core with bruce and holt. They lacked a solid defense, like they ran out of budget securing the offense so they got a few star players to try and do it all or just enough (often not even coming close). Martz built an amazing offense easily one of the best in the league, but had a piss poor defense. I mean, even bulger managed to look decent at times just because of all the weapons he had at his disposal.
@iconpoet
@iconpoet 9 месяцев назад
I'm so glad you showed Navarro Bowman TACKLING Roddy white on that play. That's why I laughed my butt off when they started crying about that "no call" in the Super Bowl. EFF THEM!
@cfairfax85
@cfairfax85 8 месяцев назад
As a niners fan Brandon Lloyd was my dude back in the day. He doesnt get enough credit. Great hands..good speed..could separate easily from defenders. Nice video.
@darksunday3012
@darksunday3012 9 месяцев назад
Lowkey, Tuggle should be in canton
@rustyshackleford1114
@rustyshackleford1114 9 месяцев назад
Yep.
@king_supreme1102
@king_supreme1102 9 месяцев назад
Robert Mathis for the next episode 🤞
@ArenaPhoenix
@ArenaPhoenix 9 месяцев назад
He’s gonna be in the hof don’t worry
@king_supreme1102
@king_supreme1102 9 месяцев назад
@@ArenaPhoenixhighly doubt it
@ArenaPhoenix
@ArenaPhoenix 9 месяцев назад
@@king_supreme1102 wym he’s like top 10 all time in sacks I believe
@king_supreme1102
@king_supreme1102 8 месяцев назад
@@ArenaPhoenixwasn’t elite enough for any stretch of his career. Also overshadowed by Freeney who will make it to the Hall soon. Also nobody talks about him. He’s a Ring of Honor guy, not a Hall of Fame guy.
@charlesmak534
@charlesmak534 9 месяцев назад
Love this series already! Keep 'em coming!
@mariosnum1fan
@mariosnum1fan 9 месяцев назад
Pasta and nfl throwback. My favorite lunchtime combo😆
@YusukeKnight
@YusukeKnight 9 месяцев назад
Awesome list of players
@taylormessier9747
@taylormessier9747 9 месяцев назад
Clicked instantly! Great vid to watch before going away !
@joeanderson444
@joeanderson444 9 месяцев назад
I remember that 91' season the Saints had Vaughan Johnson, Sam Mills, Pat Swilling, Rickey Jackson, and Renaldo Turnball. It's a wonder how any offense beat them that year lead by Dom Capers coaching the secondary and Vic Fangio coaching LBs!
@joshanderson5807
@joshanderson5807 8 месяцев назад
Definitely need more of these! Love the video!
@goldenraven2046
@goldenraven2046 9 месяцев назад
Excellent concept for a series. Lots of guys who were dominant for a short period of time, but couldn't sustain it. And vice versa who were solid for a very long time, but never really dominant. Some suggestions for next episode: Russ Francis Dave Butz Rod Smith Ottis Anderson Kris Jenkins Billy Simms Derrick Mason Fred Taylor Charles Mann Chris McAlister Karl Mecklenburg Mark Gastineau
@SolidPain6624
@SolidPain6624 9 месяцев назад
Gast did make the hall of fame though so I don’t think he should be on this list anymore
@zaneseibert
@zaneseibert 9 месяцев назад
The fact Derrick Mason is the all time leading receiver for 2 different teams but almost no one remembers him is criminal.
@nick94nw
@nick94nw 9 месяцев назад
@@SolidPain6624you mean Klecko? Gast in canton
@johnthecrouton
@johnthecrouton 9 месяцев назад
You need to put Roman Gabriel (‘69 MVP) in your next video!
@ajbahus
@ajbahus 7 месяцев назад
As a Ravens fan, I remember getting Terry Allen who was well past his prime and had the impossible task of replacing Jamal. Despite his physical limitations, he still showed great vision and patience and racked up a handful of 100 yard games including one in the playoffs. Solid player.
@jasongodek9828
@jasongodek9828 9 месяцев назад
Ben Coates was my favorite player as a pats fan growing up in the 90s
@dasun13
@dasun13 9 месяцев назад
Brandon Lloyd the best hands ever.. from a niners fan and we had Jerry, T.O and even Randy got a year but B.Lloyd was beyond automatic
@LennyLeonard
@LennyLeonard 9 месяцев назад
Challenge accepted
@user-ym2ve7be8l
@user-ym2ve7be8l 9 месяцев назад
Outstanding idea for a series! Can't wait for episode 2. So many unrecognized greats! Chrebet, Lloyd and Green. Glad they're not forgotten. And look at Brunell as a dual threat -- what was old is now new again!
@cammaxwell8013
@cammaxwell8013 9 месяцев назад
Glad to see Herman Moore get a little love.
@beauboone5332
@beauboone5332 9 месяцев назад
Really? Brunell and Anderson and you thought I wouldn’t notice? Pathetic. I created the forgotten legends series.
@williampotts7205
@williampotts7205 9 месяцев назад
Very enjoyable. Thanks for sharing. Great memories.
@dhackdaddymac
@dhackdaddymac 8 месяцев назад
Love seeing Antonio freeman get some love. Still my favorite Packers receiver
@joecacace311
@joecacace311 8 месяцев назад
As a Jets Fan Wayne Cherbet most underrated player i saw he was pure gold I am 50 now and still have his memorabilia on my living room wall signed jersey signed 11x17
@user-qp1dr5yq8k
@user-qp1dr5yq8k 9 месяцев назад
Anytime throwback posts is a damn good day. The "He did what?" call for Freeman will forever be iconic.
@leemunoz9617
@leemunoz9617 9 месяцев назад
Antonio Freeman absolutely clutch in the playoffs. Ricky Watters had SF kept him probably is in HOF
@turnupthesun81
@turnupthesun81 8 месяцев назад
I remember Ben Coates was super underrated in Madden back in the day. He was unstoppable.
@scifyry
@scifyry 6 месяцев назад
He played D2 believe it or not. I've been to a few of his Alma maters games.
@yoogeknutz
@yoogeknutz 9 месяцев назад
I'm glad these players were brought to light again. I never forgot these guys but it has been awhile since I've seen some highlights!
@WhosmanzYT
@WhosmanzYT 8 месяцев назад
I loved this, Lloyd was one of my favs back then, I remember tryin to emulate him playin football in the neighborhood haha
@matthewsabat8233
@matthewsabat8233 9 месяцев назад
Love this concept great content as always
@nicholaskling2425
@nicholaskling2425 9 месяцев назад
Big fan of this series. Love to see some great players get some attention
@WernerZiegler69
@WernerZiegler69 9 месяцев назад
Great video! Some player suggestions to cover for the next one: Charlie Conerly John Brodie Roman Gabriel George Rogers Stephen Davis Fred Taylor Jimmy Smith Torry Holt Henry Ellard Irving Fryar Joe Jacoby Randy Cross Nick Mangold Eric Metcalf LC Greenwood Jerome Brown Bryce Paup Clay Matthews Sr Troy Vincent Charles Tillman Darren Woodson Lawyer Milloy Gary Anderson Shane Lechler Steve Tasker
@Gungho73
@Gungho73 9 месяцев назад
Billy Kilmer would be one to remember. He's not ever gonna be in play for the Hall of Fame. And he had some ugly passes. But he brought wins and respectability alongside George Allen back to the DC organization. Plus I think young fans would be surprised to see film of him as a QB he's like a jalopy.
@aaronwilkie1110
@aaronwilkie1110 9 месяцев назад
This was awesome! A lot of great players in this video.
@kennethanderson1912
@kennethanderson1912 9 месяцев назад
Great Job!!! This was well done, and I enjoyed it.
@kyleriel9004
@kyleriel9004 8 месяцев назад
Ben Coates getting some love makes me happy, dude was amazing
@azom28
@azom28 9 месяцев назад
Corey Dillon better get in the HOF, one of my favs growing up
@learn2xpand862
@learn2xpand862 9 месяцев назад
Let’s go I love hearing about forgotten legends
@jonsmith1956
@jonsmith1956 9 месяцев назад
Steven Jackson should be in the Hall of Fame and if he played in a bigger market or on teams that weren't winning less than 4 games a season, it wouldn't even be a question. He was a big dude who could do anything you needed in the run game AND he could catch!! The list of dual threat power backs is pretty short.
@rickyrichreacts9667
@rickyrichreacts9667 9 месяцев назад
I really miss watching Patrick Willis and Bowman play 😭
@victormitchell7434
@victormitchell7434 8 месяцев назад
Great video keep them coming 👍.
@Reedinho
@Reedinho 9 месяцев назад
Man.... Nostalgia overload
@swrcomswrcom5306
@swrcomswrcom5306 9 месяцев назад
I’m glad Mark Brunell got some love on this. People have sadly forgotten how good he and those Jaguars teams were in the late 1990s.
@tomek6132
@tomek6132 9 месяцев назад
Corey Dillon was my guy my first year playing madden. Unstoppable!
@larryfesh6185
@larryfesh6185 7 месяцев назад
Steven Jackson & Corey Dillion were my boys on madden for the rushing drills
@MS_Fdgod
@MS_Fdgod 9 месяцев назад
Very cool to learn about these forgotten players. Makes me wonder who in today's game will be forgotten, hopefully no one but it's inevitable.
@BirdGang6
@BirdGang6 9 месяцев назад
Herman Moore was the definition of “just throw it up he’s out there somewhere”
@blakebrown84
@blakebrown84 8 месяцев назад
Steven Jackson became the Rams all-time leading rushing leader in team history. Ben Coates was an elite tight end who had excellent hands and was everything a tight end should be. Herman Moore was an all-time leading receiver leader in Lions history. Corey Dillon was an elite powerful runner who set an NFL record for most rushing yards in a single game with 278 as a Bengals. Jessie Tuggle was “The Hammer” as a hard hitting linebacker who is originally from Griffin, Georgia who played his entire career with the hometown Falcons. Mark Brunell was a left-handed quarterback who was a great pocket passer who led Jaguars into 4 straight playoff appearances and 2 AFC Championship games. Antonio Freeman had one of the most memorable catch against the Vikings and he won a Super Bowl during his short NFL career. Navarro Bowman was a hard hitting linebacker who retired too soon after 8 seasons. Terry Allen was an outstanding running back who can make defenders miss with his cutback style. Brandon Lloyd was a great wideout during his era. Pat Swilling was an outstanding linebacker who had the most sacks during his career. Ricky Watters was a fuel runner who runs the ball with his speed and had excellent hands to outrun opponents. Patrick Surtain, Sr. was a shutdown corner who was an interception machine, so he played along with his former Dolphins teammates and current Hall of Famers Zach Thomas and Jason Taylor; moreover, Patrick Sr. son Patrick Jr. plays the same position as his father as a cornerback with the Broncos. Lorenzo Neal was a beast as a fullback who played 16 seasons with different teams. Ken Anderson was a Cincinnati Bengals quarterback during his time in the NFL as he was an time leader in team history with total passing yards and total wins. Curt Warner was a great running back as he runs the ball with passion and played all 8 seasons with the Seahawks. Eric Allen had 4 interceptions for touchdowns in a single season and 5 interceptions with different teams. Wayne Chrebet was a New Jersey native who spent his entire 11 seasons with the New York Jets and was undrafted out of Hofstra. Mane…how can all of you guys forget about them? Y’all must forgot how good they were in their prime!!!
@RyanDepauloDegenerateGambler
@RyanDepauloDegenerateGambler 8 месяцев назад
Lorenzo Neal was so good as full back
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