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Playing as The Grox in Cell Stage (Spore) 

KinglyValence
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Using Cheat Engine to play as the Grox in Cell Stage and edit creations in creators they don't normally belong.
Cheat Engine Addresses and Values spreadsheet:
drive.google.com/drive/folder...
Get a Grox .PNG here:
drive.google.com/drive/u/0/fo...
Where I first saw it was possible to play as the Grox in Cell Stage:
• Grox Cell Closeup
Big thanks to this discord for helping me with Cheat Engine:
/ discord
More information about Pointer Scans and Pointer Maps:
• Cheat Engine How to Po...
Credit to MrDirtbag for coining the term "Editor Swapping":
/ @ga_sprite_powkk
Timestamps:
Intro: (0:00)
Dynamic Memory Addresses: (0:51)
Static Memory Addresses: (2:35)
Editor Swapping: (7:38)

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Комментарии : 100   
@joegurt9053
@joegurt9053 2 года назад
First thing to come to mind with this is making a Blastoise like creature with cannons on its back for creature stage. Super cool discovery, this cheat engine stuff is awesome.
@djt08031996
@djt08031996 3 месяца назад
Make sure to put any spit parts in the cannons and not the mouth
@LotsOfS
@LotsOfS 2 года назад
Came for Spore nonsense, got the Cheat Engine tutorial I was always meant to look up anyway. Thanks! I learned something :D
@TacticalAnt420
@TacticalAnt420 2 года назад
The spaceship and building editor combination is really cool, it gives the possibility to make airports.
@puffypuff3144
@puffypuff3144 Год назад
so, what about the unused flora editor could you get a bunch of grox-shaped trees to pepper a galactic adventures planet like terrifying obelisks
@agalitev
@agalitev 4 месяца назад
it would be tricky since the editor alone crashes frequently
@xXRealXx
@xXRealXx 3 месяца назад
AFAIK custom flora always crashes the game, unless they are in an adventure
@vanillacoldspore
@vanillacoldspore 24 дня назад
@@xXRealXx It only crashes the game when the Staff of Life is used, since custom flora is always chosen instead of Maxis flora in that case.
@softreyna
@softreyna 2 года назад
I think that we can't play with non-living things as living things for the same reason that the Grox loses its body when it becomes a tank. It looks like editables are either saved as a collection of parts (our non-living things), or a collection of parts and a spine (our living things). When a living thing is put in a non-living editor, the editor just reads the collection of parts and ignores the rest, leading to creatures without bodies that still function as vehicles, buildings, or spaceships. When the opposite happens, however, the editor crashes when we try to progress outside of it because it tries to animate a spine that doesn't exist.
@neoxus30
@neoxus30 2 года назад
So if we made a creature with only its spine and put it on the vehicle editor, then made a vehicle and put it back into the creature editor it would work?)
@softreyna
@softreyna 2 года назад
@@neoxus30 Good question! It depends on whether the vehicle editor saves the result as a new vehicle, thus not copying over the spine, or edits the parts collection on the existing creature, leaving the spine as it is in the file. My guess is that it wouldn't work, because iirc most programs edit via overwriting the target file and the vehicle editor wouldn't have the spine data to add to the new file, but it's worth testing.
@PeterBarnes2
@PeterBarnes2 Год назад
​@@softreyna In the video At 9:48 it was shown the newly created "Grox-o-Car," a creature saved as a land vehicle, could then be loaded in the creature editor, and retain its spine and limbs, and was subsequently loaded without crash.
@softreyna
@softreyna Год назад
@@PeterBarnes2 Good catch! I guess my hunch was wrong lol.
@vanillacoldspore
@vanillacoldspore 24 дня назад
@@softreyna The spine is actually made out of parts in of itself - if a creature is saved as a vehicle, then the individual segments can actually be seen as if they're normal parts.
@Pacca64
@Pacca64 2 года назад
Used to do this all the time. Made so many cyborg vanilla creatures X3
@cooljonathan
@cooljonathan Год назад
The base address for Editor Type and Save Creation are the same probably because their memory was allocated at the same time. They may be part of the same struct or object or array in whatever language spore was written in. The base address is probably different between versions because the code was recompiled and the compiler decided on a different address for those values. Probably the same story, with Stage Load 1 and Stage load 2, same C++ struct or object.
@AspienPadda
@AspienPadda 2 года назад
Do I understand any word of this? Nope! Am I still watching? Of course! Why? Bc ily my guy
@GorNaKat
@GorNaKat Год назад
Would making a small 'living' creature and building a tank on top allow interacting with it? I think the reason for crashing may be the lack of skeleton
@KinglyValence
@KinglyValence Год назад
Yeah adding tank parts on top of a living creature should work in all Stages :)
@manender1020
@manender1020 9 месяцев назад
​@@KinglyValenceno way wild tanks
@webkinzgecko1515
@webkinzgecko1515 2 года назад
this is so cool!! and yes, seeing someone make a spore lightning mcqueen would be great lmao
@spaceclaw1958
@spaceclaw1958 Год назад
looks like we're one step closer to the Grox Speedrun
@cynical5062
@cynical5062 2 года назад
Your upload made my day man. It's always so cool how you not only do super interesting things, but add great commentary that explains how it works and how to do it all.
@peepsbates
@peepsbates 6 месяцев назад
0:39 "These edibles ain't shi-......"
@theenjoyer1445
@theenjoyer1445 2 года назад
haha, wow. I always love seeing you break the game in these weird ways. The things you can do with Cheat Engine are really interesting.
@gonderage
@gonderage Год назад
Gosh, haven't played SPORE (2008) in forever. I remember using Cheat Engine to scale gates (disguised as a creature that's a planet) to enormous sizes to generate a planet prop (a technique I picked up from a cool adventure I forgot the name of)
@KinglyValence
@KinglyValence Год назад
That's interesting! I haven't used Cheat Engine too much for Galactic Adventures so I'm not familiar with this technique. I'll try messing with this as well!
@zackyjack8891
@zackyjack8891 2 года назад
Mad man, you will never stop playing sport until you do every single thing possible in spore Like doom fans, they will never stop until doom is ran on every single thing posible
@Reg_The_Galah
@Reg_The_Galah 2 года назад
It’s such a useful tool cheatengine, thanks for the tutorial my man 👍
@ChibiAccount
@ChibiAccount Год назад
super useful for changing vehicle type or using a spaceship as the base for a set. thanks!
@medicindisquise4271
@medicindisquise4271 Год назад
Man, I love how Spore has a lot of intricacies that are STILL being discovered. I absolutely love glitches and work arounds like this. Question: Do you know about the hidden building editors and vehicle editors? I did a writeup of it on /r/spore, but you can actually save creations as harvesters and farm buildings. But you can't load them back into the game. But maybe this trick will help it work? I dunno. I love crap like this.
@KinglyValence
@KinglyValence Год назад
I haven't worked too much with the extra editors beyond the hidden cell editor but that is really cool! Feel free to link your write up and I'll try it out!
@tehmeex7341
@tehmeex7341 2 года назад
This is interesting. If I end up buying Spore, I'll come back to this video!
@shr4pnel
@shr4pnel 2 года назад
Happy to see another upload from you
@robertlupa8273
@robertlupa8273 4 месяца назад
I had no idea you could import creations by simply dragging their image files into the game. :o
@ChoosenOneStudios
@ChoosenOneStudios 2 года назад
Another great video! :D Thank you!
@darknight241
@darknight241 Год назад
thank you for still captioning all your videos
@zigludo
@zigludo 2 года назад
oh my god i remember all the cheat engine tutorials in my childhood but never understood them i think davoonline used to have an archive/sporepedia of hacked creatures which had a lot interesting vehicle part shenanigans going on, but i'm not sure if it's still around anymore :(
@lotad7646
@lotad7646 2 года назад
He’s back!
@UniqueUkrainianLetters
@UniqueUkrainianLetters Год назад
I'll just leave my comment here to support the Spore community.
@manticore-hr2cw
@manticore-hr2cw 2 года назад
What about if you keep cell parts until creature stage then use the creature in cell stage
@KinglyValence
@KinglyValence 2 года назад
I'll have to try that, good suggestion!
@clawcakes2
@clawcakes2 8 месяцев назад
i don't use the term "cursed" very often. but my god. this is cursed.
@Kaizeron
@Kaizeron Год назад
Hey, how about a speedrun about unlocking every single part for the creature editor?
@Scythescor
@Scythescor 2 года назад
This is crazy !!!
@aringrey
@aringrey 2 года назад
super interesting!
@lynnclaywood4043
@lynnclaywood4043 9 месяцев назад
That is one tiny little guy
@zelenpixel
@zelenpixel 2 года назад
this is super interesting i didnt know you could load creations in wrong editors the grox cell sporepedia icon is SO funny interesting how the grox cell just uses regular creature animations instead of cell animations like youd expect. well it does so in the editor anyways. whats up with that? i didnt know there was a cell editor with limited parts just for startning up a new cell game??? wait how do you get that though. considering ive only had access to maxis cells im assuming you could theoretically get a creature with parts from all vehicle AND building editors do the vehicle/building creatures crash upon any attempt by the game to load it because theres technically no body itself to be found?
@KinglyValence
@KinglyValence 2 года назад
That Basic Cell Editor only seems to appear when changing which Stage will load to Cell Stage and making a custom cell. I don't think there is any other way to access it normally. Yeah it seems like a body is required for Stages with living creations. Maybe since the non-living creations don't have bodies the game is looking for one and doesn't know what to do and it crashes.
@spencerbills5567
@spencerbills5567 4 месяца назад
I wonder with all these cheats if there is a way you can start as the grox empire with all their planets included.
@aristoeldesarmado
@aristoeldesarmado Месяц назад
Well, something I'd find impressive is if you manage to make the unused editors actually playable (without crashing). I tried the plant editor once and it was like a fever dream (and couldn't even save the creation)
@PaddyPAA
@PaddyPAA 2 года назад
Spore community is wayyyyy to smart for me XD
@Levyaton
@Levyaton Год назад
Is it possible to beat spore, when you trigger the water nest glitch? That would be really cool, I think 😁
@turingtestingmypatience
@turingtestingmypatience Год назад
gonna give so many creatures cool parts with this. big question though: say you made a creature with ship parts. when picking creatures to spawn in at the beginning of creature stage in the nests and all that, would the game load it fine like any other creature or just flat out refuse? wanna know if an eco-flag-bearing creature with a gun on its back would be player-only.
@KinglyValence
@KinglyValence Год назад
I haven't tried to get the AI creatures to spawn with other parts/something that would require Cheat Engine yet. So far I've made it only as the player creature but I can look into that!
@xXRealXx
@xXRealXx 3 месяца назад
Btw, all of this can be done via mods as well
@pustota7254
@pustota7254 Год назад
This is usefull.
@shadownoob-212guy
@shadownoob-212guy Год назад
how do you always get to make the cells you start as?
@MartianLeo_T
@MartianLeo_T Год назад
how do you get the cheat engine
@SQUELETTEMANIA
@SQUELETTEMANIA Год назад
How to make the cheat engine IN Spore ?
@PlotagonLikerGoanimateHater
Spore Mod Name: All Editors Fused/3d Replicant Cell Stage Subgroups: Test Drive In Other Editors Aquatic Background Test Drive Bacterioid Cell Parts In Creature/Vehicle Parts 3d Replicant Cell Stage Creature Cell Flora Parts/Editor Vehicle Parts In Creature Editor Creature Outfitter/Captain Parts In Creature Editors Creature Parts In Building Editor Vehicle/Building Parts In Vehicle/Building Editors Forest/Spaceship/Captain Background Captain In Cell (3d)/Creature/Tribal Stage Buildings In Cell (3d)/Creature/Tribal Stage Vehicles In Cell (3d)/Creature/Tribal Stage
@simunator
@simunator 9 месяцев назад
if sotc has nomad, spore has kingly
@denifnaf5874
@denifnaf5874 Год назад
For anyone wondering stage 3 was toen stage
@KinglyValence
@KinglyValence Год назад
Ah that makes sense, I was thinking it could have been a placeholder for the Aquatic Stage haha
@lobsterburger
@lobsterburger 6 месяцев назад
what's toen stage?
@denifnaf5874
@denifnaf5874 4 месяца назад
​@@lobsterburgertown* I misspelled
@denifnaf5874
@denifnaf5874 4 месяца назад
Or city
@karpai5427
@karpai5427 Год назад
I would love to have a creature with unused cell parts. You know that all cell parts have 4 "upgrades". I really like herbavore mouths. They look cool and they have tentacles. I really wish I could save my creatures with these parts.
@KinglyValence
@KinglyValence Год назад
I show how to do that in this video :) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Z0lXPHYdXfU.html It does also require Cheat Engine though.
@karpai5427
@karpai5427 Год назад
@@KinglyValence Seems like I'll have to use cheat engine every time I edit my captan. I forgot I already saw this video a year ago. Thank you.
@ilkrolysiv4360
@ilkrolysiv4360 2 года назад
oh my god
@duane6386
@duane6386 Год назад
I clicked the google drive link for the grox png and it says it doesn't exist
@KinglyValence
@KinglyValence Год назад
Thanks for letting me know! I fixed the link so it'll work now. I moved around some stuff in my Drive but forgot which videos needed the updated links.
@reinmeiker9024
@reinmeiker9024 2 года назад
oh Lord this looks cursed
@VPPF76
@VPPF76 Год назад
You can make mods whit hacks?
@yhwac
@yhwac 2 года назад
Grox only speedrun incoming?
@KinglyValence
@KinglyValence 2 года назад
That's in my big list of video ideas, and this makes it more possible! I was also thinking of using all Grox vehicles/buildings in Civilization Stage too. The Grox Grumbler is their military tank they use which I showed in this video too.
@yhwac
@yhwac 2 года назад
@@KinglyValence great idea, limit yourself to as much grox themed things as possible and then do a run with full explanation and all of that. Seems like a great and entertaining idea!
@randomisfoda
@randomisfoda Год назад
he sounds like darkedgetv but offbrand
@coolsonicsoul7356
@coolsonicsoul7356 Год назад
how exactly did you download the grox png from sporewiki? I tried just right clicking and saving but it was only 9kb and didn't work.
@KinglyValence
@KinglyValence Год назад
That's strange, yeah the wiki isn't letting me save it as a png either. I added the Grox.png to my Google Drive to download here: drive.google.com/drive/folders/1f1Cpo4a9GaSyGyyoA8Bs5U-Q4N8i0Pdb?usp=sharing That should work better :)
@coolsonicsoul7356
@coolsonicsoul7356 Год назад
@@KinglyValence I think it has something to do with fandom changes or something
@coolsonicsoul7356
@coolsonicsoul7356 Год назад
@@KinglyValence alright, found a workaround. what you do is: get a browser that doesn't currently support webps (or change your user agent to one) personally i used internet explorer since chances are it will never support webps due to never being updated. after that get a link to the "full size image" and paste it into the browser that doesn't support webps, then right click and download it and it should work and you can drag it in. the reason we would want to do this even after having the grox png is so you can still get the grox buildings/vehicles/spaceships, and if you want other creatures from the wiki.
@KinglyValence
@KinglyValence Год назад
Nice workaround using IE, I got it to work too! Good to know that it is still possible to download the PNGs from the wiki in some way. Unfortunate they don't allow for downloading it with modern browsers. Does the wiki have downloadable Grox vehicles and buildings? I couldn't find PNGs of them on the wiki. I have the Grox character, all the Grox buildings, and the Grox spaceship by "sporebuild" but I got them years ago and don't remember where. I did some Cheat Engine work to the get the Grox Vehicles locally saved but they aren't by sporebuild/Maxis. I'll make Google Drive links for creations I use in the future to make it easier too.
@coolsonicsoul7356
@coolsonicsoul7356 Год назад
@@KinglyValence the buildings and vehicles should be at the bottom of the grox page iirc. if they aren't there maybe I can make a google drive with the direct links or something
@luisalberto-st8bn
@luisalberto-st8bn 4 месяца назад
Did you try to mess with the plant creator?
@mega_tails3910
@mega_tails3910 10 месяцев назад
maybe it crashes because it doesn't have a body?
@gradypharr1300
@gradypharr1300 Год назад
How long do you think an All Achievements Speedrun would take?
@HameleoshaDeHoga
@HameleoshaDeHoga Год назад
Forever because some achievements require using the spore website like having your creation featured I think it has to be done manually by the moderators and I doubt there's any after the game's servers have been "shut down" and the game itself became "dead" But the ones that are possible to get offline would be either 50 hours or 100 hours I don't remember but some of them require spending that much time in the game for an achievement
@gradypharr1300
@gradypharr1300 Год назад
@@HameleoshaDeHoga Thanks for the information.
@shannoncummings7886
@shannoncummings7886 2 месяца назад
Link to the cheat engine?
@KinglyValence
@KinglyValence Месяц назад
www.cheatengine.org/downloads.php The site does look a bit old n sketch but this is where I got it. There might be better places on GitHub that look better if you can navigate that site. Windows can be picky about installing Cheat Engine so it may need extra permissions.
@pyrotheparasaurolophus
@pyrotheparasaurolophus 2 года назад
is this a reupload?
@KinglyValence
@KinglyValence 2 года назад
There's a another video where I play as the Grox in Creature Stage also using Cheat Engine that you are probably thinking of. This expands on that idea a bit more :)
@dek5775
@dek5775 Год назад
What kind of cheating is this with cheat engine
@daniplay5020
@daniplay5020 4 месяца назад
8:08
@Poop-gz3hb
@Poop-gz3hb 2 года назад
first
@VPPF76
@VPPF76 Год назад
You can make mods whit hacks?
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