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Playing PS1 Games On PS2 VS PS3 - Affro's Curiosities 

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Hello folks! Welcome to a brand new season!! Affro's Curiosities is back and hopefully it's better than ever!
In today's video I shall be talking about playing PS1 games on either the PS2 or PS3!
10 years ago, thanks to HDMI and 1080p output, the PS3 seemed to be the best and easiest way to play PlayStation 1 games!
Thanks to advancements in retro technology and upscalers, can the PlayStation 2 match or even beat the PS3's output quality for PS1 games?
Hope you enjoy this video!
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Contents:
0:00 - Start
0:20 - Introduction + Disclaimer
2:05 - Zero Divide 2: The Secret Wish
3:38 - The Italian Job
4:34 - Dead Or Alive
5:35 - Driver
6:33 - Ridge Racer Type 4
7:43 - R-Type Delta
8:53 - Wipeout 2097
9:32 - Soulblade
10:26 - Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 4
11:24 - Ace Combat 3
12:32 - Conclusion
How did I capture PS1 Footage?
- OSSC Video Upscaler Set @240p/288p Line5x Mode @1920x1200
Or Line 4x mode when the screen did not fully fit]
- OSSC Settings For Interlaced Content Was Set At 480i/576i Passthrough Mode & Deinterlaced In OBS
- Elgato HD60 S+ @ Maximum recording quality via OBS
- Used HDMI For PS3 & Component Cables For PS2
- All Consoles Were PAL Based

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@TheAffroShowGameplay
@TheAffroShowGameplay 4 года назад
Here is a video I wanted to make forever! Hope you all enjoy the results and seeing games I own in my collection!
@muhammedozbek7492
@muhammedozbek7492 11 месяцев назад
Both have Advantages and disadvantages. ps3: - plug and play, no need for extra parts. - wireless controller - has HDMİ output natively - Looks smoother -you can play ps3 games too! -Easier to use and easier to customize Ps2: -You can use ps1 memory cards and accesoires, there is lots of them. -Reset button! -Looks crisper -You can go back to natural look - And you can play ps2 games too! -anti allising at some games
@TheAffroShowGameplay
@TheAffroShowGameplay 11 месяцев назад
Pretty much spot on :D
@ProffyChaos
@ProffyChaos 3 года назад
Great video. Shows you exactly what you want to see with good descriptions and comparisons. Only just found your channel by accident but will be checking it out regularly. Keep it up.
@TheAffroShowGameplay
@TheAffroShowGameplay 3 года назад
I try my best & I hope that I can do more comparisons like this one as I enjoy seeing the difference ^^
@thousandstar
@thousandstar 4 года назад
I love how professional your videos are
@TheAffroShowGameplay
@TheAffroShowGameplay 4 года назад
I always try my best & I'm glad you enjoy my presentation ^^
@mrbig2648
@mrbig2648 4 года назад
For the PS2, you could always just grab an old CRT from your grandad's house ;) I want to get into PS1 games later this year (I was a Saturn boy back then) and am going to use a Vita. I hear the emulation is good, and the small screen is much more forgiving of 32-bit era 3D graphics. Plus I'll be able to play it on my commute.
@TheAffroShowGameplay
@TheAffroShowGameplay 4 года назад
Nah xD I don't have any CRT's anymore & the ones I'd actually want are expensive dammit xD Ah the PSP will be a shout as they have video out & excellent emulation too :) Either way a PSP or PSVita will be amazing ^^
@devinho616
@devinho616 3 месяца назад
Thanks, bro! I tried to find some content like this in portuguese (i'm brazilian), and don't exist portuguese videos with this comparision. I'm not a good english speaker, but I haven't difficult to understand your video, because it's didatic and calm. Just thank you!
@TheAffroShowGameplay
@TheAffroShowGameplay 3 месяца назад
I'm glad I was able to help & this is why I feel it is important to make videos on the PAL systems, European gamers are important too :)
@partypat7229
@partypat7229 Год назад
I use my ps1 with Luma scart and an odv-gbs-c along with a mclassic and 1440p hdmi edid. It looks awesome.
@TheAffroShowGameplay
@TheAffroShowGameplay Год назад
Probably too complex for me but as I say, if it looks amazing, keep it! Hopefully it looks good with the games that used 480i/576i resolutions too!
@cellophane3
@cellophane3 3 года назад
I use Elgato game capture so i can use a component adaptor to capture my ps3. I was wondering if HDMI is any better than component and wanted to ask how you got around the HDCP on ps3 consoles.
@TheAffroShowGameplay
@TheAffroShowGameplay 3 года назад
I use an Elgato HD60 S Plus & I simply used a cheap HDMI Spitter from Amazon to get around the PS3's Copy Protected HDMI sport :p Yes it's better than component but only in games that play in 1080p Most PS3 games are 720p so the difference will be down to how good the cables are :p I love component but I find the HDMI works best on playing PS1 games, especially if you use a disk since you get a sharper picture than the digital downloads :) Hope this answers your question :) Always check the description of all my videos if you want to know what I used and the settings :p
@firip255
@firip255 3 года назад
Color is better on hdmi. Little Bit
@sharporigami5216
@sharporigami5216 2 года назад
The ps2 has a smoothing option that looks good on a crt for 3d games or 3d elements. I wish the ps3 had it.
@TheAffroShowGameplay
@TheAffroShowGameplay 2 года назад
The PS3 does have a smoothing option :)
@sharporigami5216
@sharporigami5216 2 года назад
@@TheAffroShowGameplay The ps3 has a blur filter that just makes the overall image softer. The ps2 has a smoothing option that makes textures smoother on ps1 polygonal graphics. Sony hid the option in a part of the system menus. I think it improves ps1 games a little. Never seen it when it's upscaled by something as fancy as a retrotink 5x or ossc.
@pastandcurrent
@pastandcurrent 2 месяца назад
@@sharporigami5216 its this the option on ps2 they hid in the options, or PS3? wich would be best to use on my CRT? ive got a PS1 but I find the Ps2 makes the ps1 games look better (unless im just placebo myself ) but today i just got a PS3 so now im confused as to what the best option is?
@lautaromoyano4298
@lautaromoyano4298 День назад
@@pastandcurrent i'm Asking me the same xD
@PinkwaveGamer
@PinkwaveGamer 4 года назад
You already know I go the PS3 route. Once you get the HDMI splitter working right, captures are easy. It's good to know there are other options though. I feel the PS2 choice could work great as long as you're willing to do some adjusting per game. Btw, did you know there's remaster of the early Tony Hawk games coming out on PS4?
@TheAffroShowGameplay
@TheAffroShowGameplay 4 года назад
Yes the only problem is not all HDMI splitters work but I agree once it does, it's great and it looks great :) I sure did and I hope its as good as the older pro skater games were!!
@johnthedon4758
@johnthedon4758 2 года назад
, I hooked up my ps3 via HDmi to my hdtv and put a ps1 game in and without smoothing looks really bad basically unplayable. Smoothing is ok but still kinda blurry or dark I only tested Resident evil original which is kinda dark. I forgot to try this...my hdtv has a component input and it came with an adapter, what if I put my hdretrovision ps2/ps3 cables in the adapter into my hdtv? Would it look better than on the hdmi source of the tv? Even with smoothing off? I'm going to test it anyway
@TheAffroShowGameplay
@TheAffroShowGameplay 2 года назад
Unfortunately if you don't like the look of the HDMI results, component will look the same since the resolutions are similar between the two :o You could use the OSSC & use it's scanlines via component cables but that will add cost :o
@johnthedon4758
@johnthedon4758 2 года назад
@@TheAffroShowGameplay yes but component on a crt looks amazing, does component in a flat hdtv look similar to how regular HD looks you're saying?
@TheAffroShowGameplay
@TheAffroShowGameplay 2 года назад
@JohnTheDon Yes Component on a HDMI TV will look like HDMI if the cable is of good quality, on CRT that makes sense for it to be different but on a flatscreen, there's not much difference:)
@tomweyts
@tomweyts Год назад
After collecting for over 5 years i switched to emulation... But i missed having de original games so i started collecting again and playing on PS3 but damn... Coming from emulation it just looks outright bad on a big screen now
@TheAffroShowGameplay
@TheAffroShowGameplay Год назад
I mean I don't think it does, I like how it looks although it depends on what connection you've used & the display itself can be a factor :) Since you said emulation, I don't know if you enhanced the graphics in emulation because if you did, maybe that's why you think that :p Otherwise it's personal taste :p
@Simon-ik1kb
@Simon-ik1kb Год назад
@@TheAffroShowGameplay exactly. I for example use emulation also on my PC. But I always try to replicate the original look. I hate all those upscalers, making PS1 games look "good" on 4K and etc. I even use shaders in order to add old TV effects. I love how crappy PS1 games look, those warping snapping textures and etc. :D
@pastandcurrent
@pastandcurrent 2 месяца назад
I did the same, collected, went to emulation now back to the real stuff, I find on a CRT the games look far better and smoother
@lenny7785
@lenny7785 3 года назад
Is there a comparison for just regular PS2 without the thingamajig vs PS3?
@TheAffroShowGameplay
@TheAffroShowGameplay 3 года назад
On my channel no sadly, my TV has no analog inputs so I have no choice :) Now I could make a video like that using my old Elgato Game Capture HD since that wouldn't upscale PS2 content but It depends if people want that :)
@mathieuwiersma1660
@mathieuwiersma1660 4 года назад
Do you have a scanline generator ?
@TheAffroShowGameplay
@TheAffroShowGameplay 4 года назад
I don’t unfortunately xD Again im not really interested in scanlines its not my thing :p
@Arcturian1111
@Arcturian1111 Год назад
Is there a way to make PS1 games play better on an HD TV. Would a PS3 console fix this? Please elaborate.
@TheAffroShowGameplay
@TheAffroShowGameplay Год назад
You'll have to explain by what you mean as a better experience if possible please :)
@NikhchansGaming
@NikhchansGaming 3 года назад
3:56 Ahh screw the graphics! Had helluva fun time on this one sight seeing London and Turin jumpin all over the place!
@TheAffroShowGameplay
@TheAffroShowGameplay 3 года назад
Haha well if you have fun that's the main thing 😁
@NikhchansGaming
@NikhchansGaming 3 года назад
@@TheAffroShowGameplay Yes Love both Drivers as well. classics!
@TheAffroShowGameplay
@TheAffroShowGameplay 3 года назад
@@NikhchansGaming I love both Driver games too, huge fan :)
@fortitudevalance8424
@fortitudevalance8424 3 месяца назад
From my experience the PS3 does provide a slightly more slicker gameplay than the PS2 but some of the games I made through the Net Yaroze console works best on the PS2.
@TheAffroShowGameplay
@TheAffroShowGameplay 3 месяца назад
Not sure what you mean by slicker, but I often find the sound quality is not as rich on PS3 & not all games have sharp output, especially if downloaded from Sony's PlayStation store :)
@fortitudevalance8424
@fortitudevalance8424 3 месяца назад
@@TheAffroShowGameplaySlick as in smoother frame rate.
@TheAffroShowGameplay
@TheAffroShowGameplay 3 месяца назад
Be aware if your PS3 is an NTSC model :) Mine is PAL & the games are limited to 50hz, if your PS3 is NTSC based it will be smoother than PAL games :) If this is not the case, I'll have to retest & see :)
@Galbz883
@Galbz883 9 месяцев назад
is the input lag on either one problematic?
@TheAffroShowGameplay
@TheAffroShowGameplay 9 месяцев назад
They felt the same to me :)
@Galbz883
@Galbz883 9 месяцев назад
@@TheAffroShowGameplay awesome thank you
@SolidSonicTH
@SolidSonicTH Месяц назад
Kind of odd you're so harsh on the graphics for The Italian Job. Those graphics actually look really good for a PS1 game to me...
@TheAffroShowGameplay
@TheAffroShowGameplay Месяц назад
Compared to Driver or Driver 2 the graphics are subpar & below what the console can do although it is still fun to play despite my thoughts :)
@takeyourtime3328
@takeyourtime3328 3 года назад
the ossc costs about 85$ on aliexpress...
@TheAffroShowGameplay
@TheAffroShowGameplay 3 года назад
Prices will change, deals can occur, remember I'm strictly talking about prices in the UK since this is all I know :) Always check your respective regions and again you may have it cheaper which is fantastic :)
@eded9157
@eded9157 4 месяца назад
Like you say the thing is, you can buy a PS3 just with the money that cost a good scaler... And get to play PS3 as a bonus. Scalers are way too overpriced.
@TheAffroShowGameplay
@TheAffroShowGameplay 4 месяца назад
Remember scalers can play more than just PS3, so actually the flexibility alone makes them worth looking into :) For PS3 only, HDMI & a HDMI splitter is fine but for other retro systems, a great upscaler is a good investment & good ones for around £50 -£70 these days are pretty good :)
@AkiKimurr
@AkiKimurr Год назад
Nice demonstration, thank you! For the purity sake I'd go with PS2 70** and earlier. From what I read if it's not 100% harware bc it's like 95% maybe only smth to do with the sound if even that. If you don't care all that much about that both ps2 75** and up and ps3 do damn good job with software bc. And if you go with ps2 route for ps1 bc and still want to have smth like ps3 you may not bother hunting down that phat launch ps3 or even trying to fix it. You can go with one of the slimmer more power-efficient and reliable models. Especially since, again, for purity sake, from what I read even phat ps3 isn't full hardware bc. If I remember correctly it has to emulate smth about sound and still some cpu instructions (I'm still talking about launch model, not the "hybrid-emu" model, I know about that one). Also it kind of bugs me that in comparison to ps2 that hardware sits there doing nothing while not emulating ps2 games (some people still joke about basically the same thing regarding SPUs in some ps3 games, yes-yes, haha) and doesn't provide performance boost (like 9th gen for 8th gen games and wii u for wii and gc (I believe wii also does to gc titles marginally)). Also, small nitpick regarding ONLY launch PS3 - even though in had hdmi from the start unlike x360, some of the port's specs actually weren't fully finalized for the launch and bizzarely it doesn't support lpcm 7.1, only encoded, I think, which is still great just a touch easier/better on later models. BTW for PS4 games I'd still go PS4 pro and not PS5 - that gen is still incoplete and better version of that console may still drop plus no toslink and I still think that soldered storage solution must be illegal. Smaller things - I don't think I fully trust liquid metal in ps5 and I'd go through the trouble of applying paste instead; ps4 is already freshly jailbroken while ps5 isn't; no 3d tv suppprt for games and blurays on ps5.
@TheAffroShowGameplay
@TheAffroShowGameplay Год назад
It is even more complicated with mods as a good PS3 mod can let you play PS2 games without getting the fat version :) I need to make a video showing video output misconceptions haha
@pastandcurrent
@pastandcurrent 2 месяца назад
So, PS3 is better to use on a HDTV, but if plugging into a CRT PS2 would be better?
@TheAffroShowGameplay
@TheAffroShowGameplay 2 месяца назад
It is not so simple, I need to do an updated version of this because I use the OSSC with my PS2 & I prefer its results, however preference will play a part :)
@pastandcurrent
@pastandcurrent 2 месяца назад
@@TheAffroShowGameplay yeh I guess ultimately it's always down to preference, love my ps2 as a PS1 emulator, only just got a PS3 so I shall see., good video btw.
@TheAffroShowGameplay
@TheAffroShowGameplay 2 месяца назад
@@pastandcurrent Yes & I really need to update this because I can do it so much better, thank you though :)
@williammarston1861
@williammarston1861 2 года назад
But the thing is!!! Did you use run of the mill ps3? Or Fully hardware compatible PS3, you know the good ol’fat ones with 4 usb ports and the right serial number.
@TheAffroShowGameplay
@TheAffroShowGameplay 2 года назад
Unfortunately I used the normal silm, the original fat consoles here in the UK are very hard to find & only the Japanese & American versions of the PS3 had the full fat features of the original model :) European countries never got the PS3 with the Emotion Engine included which is a shame :o
@williammarston1861
@williammarston1861 2 года назад
@@TheAffroShowGameplay Good to know that, Anyway i just found out about your channel and i truly think it’s underrated in terms of views. All the appreciation of your hard work from a new fan in Kuwait.
@TheAffroShowGameplay
@TheAffroShowGameplay 2 года назад
@@williammarston1861 Yeah a lot of people don't realise we always seem to get the least of the best in gaming hardware lol xD Tough being European xD I appreciate that although this video is so old now, my newer stuff is far better in my mind anyway xD Thank you for checking out the video & hope to hear from you soon!
@thesteammachine1282
@thesteammachine1282 Год назад
@@TheAffroShowGameplay On the other hand, I think that the original ps2 phat was with actual ps1 hardware and the ps2 slim was emulation ? If so, than the phat ps2 is better ?
@TheAffroShowGameplay
@TheAffroShowGameplay Год назад
All PS2's are the same except for very late Silm models, the original Silms still work the same as the fat PS2's :)
@n64fan60
@n64fan60 8 месяцев назад
4:34 *Examining how PS2 and PS3 handles DOA's interlaced output.* Bad comparison, in my opinion. You say that basically its interlaced on PS3 and not on PS2, and that this can be fixed by capturing 1080i over component and deinterlacing with OBS or capture device which does this for you. Thing is.. your PS2 footage is only progressive scan because you applied your solution to the PS3 interlacing to your originally interlaced PS2 video feed. In other words; it's interlaced on both systems, you just deinterlaced one but not the other? At the end of the day, both the PS2 and particularly the PS3 give an authentic an experience as possible when emulating PS1. Both are quite capable of forcing progressive scan on PS1 games, they just don't. The PS3 PS1 backwards-compatibility is even a little stripped back compared to the bc on PS2, since you cant do texture smoothing or faster loading times on PS3. In the end - PS2 is the way to go purely because you can use all the PS1 accessories. You can't play Time Crisis with the guncon on PS3, for example. 12:48 *Stresses that PS2 runs PS1 games natively with hardware, whereas PS3 emulates.* Not accurate. Even the earliest PS2 launch models emulated the PS1's geometry tranformation engine (GPU). Starting with the PS2 model SCPH-750xx in 2005/2006, the PS1 CPU which had been serving as both the PS2's IO controller and cpu when in PS1 mode, was swapped out for a generic PowerPC processor, and thus those PS2s emulate the PS1 CPU, in addition to the GPU. All PS2s emulate the PS1 GPU in software, regardless.
@TheAffroShowGameplay
@TheAffroShowGameplay 8 месяцев назад
I think there's a bit of confusion on the first point - I said the PS3 doesn't deinterlace interlaced which it doesn't (not without a mod perhaps?) & that the PS2 can be deinterlaced as normal if you output via a TV or a display, I tend to use the OSSC & it's Bob deinterlacing method at this time :) Also regarding PS2, while I'm aware now of the PS1 functionality it has, it still can play it basically natively outside of some games having slight graphical errors here and there :) Please be aware this video is very old & needs to be updated, a lot has changed both in my knowledge of the PS3 & how I would record the footage :) I'm thankful you brought up the points you did with you correcting me & while the video is not perfect, I hope it at least made you curious about the outputs of these systems :)
@n64fan60
@n64fan60 8 месяцев назад
@TheAffroShowGameplay Apologies for my pedantry, sir. I didnt see the age of the video. Good luck with your channel 🙂
@n64fan60
@n64fan60 8 месяцев назад
My point stands though, PS2 doesn't natively force progressive scan on PS1 games either, it just ends up like that because everyone deinterlaces their PS2 feeds via upscaling of some kind. PS3 is just a raw hdmi output.
@TheAffroShowGameplay
@TheAffroShowGameplay 8 месяцев назад
@n64fan60 No no it is ok, I know you wasn't malicious & any information to help me make better videos always helps:) Thank you, got new episodes coming soon!
@TheAffroShowGameplay
@TheAffroShowGameplay 8 месяцев назад
@n64fan60 If it's interlaced no, it definitely won't do that, as you said it has to be deinterlaced in some way & it can change the picture:)
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