Yes, I didnt play much, but at least I tried some. For somebody like me, that only use it now and then, it sucks to pay such crap. Probably I will not use it in months. PS3 was perfect, but of course some kind of free service is too much to ask for. Sony doesnt own enough money already...
It's all of your fault for buying into PAY2ONLINE When the PC exists. PC's are only as expensive as you want them. You are paying for just nicer hardware for some games, but a mid-rig PC now days is a high rig PC from years ago. Also I miss the ps2-ps3 era. OH MY PC CAN EMULATE PS2 GAMES! and some PS3 titles did have PC ports.
@MaoRatto I have not paid for PlayStation Plus and will most likely never pay for it. You can emulate PS1 - PS3 games on PC, and there is even a PS4 emulator being developed. Also I wasn't talking about missing the games, even though I do love the games from that generation, I was just saying that I miss when you didn't have to pay to play games online on PS3.
@@MaoRatto His fault?… for what??? That’s like you walking up to a random British in the current time and saying “It’s all your fault the American Revolution happened!” - what sense does that make? How the heck do you even know the too commenter contributed to PSN+? You definitely don’t hear or think twice before displaying such incompetence with your comments, obviously… lol
And what sucks more is that there’s no other way to play these games unless you use an emulator which not everyone can access, if only they let us buy and download these old games separately.
@@LuminitOfficial The service is also bad because many games that were in PlayStation Now are gone from the service. The distribution is bad because certain territories don't have access to streaming and get an even worse substitute. Games are added extremely slowly to the service. One of the benefits is playing a demo for a limited time which used to be free.
I dont mind paying for it you get classics and stuff you get lots of advantages, and also you can pay monthly that still has not increased, , for me paying in a subsription is better than upfront, and again you dont need a psplus to play online because you can pla free to play games, and single player games.
@@fryrob2019 don’t you realize how dumb it sounds for them to make the yearly premium subscription more expensive whilst doing nothing to the other subscription options. I wait for sales while paying for the monthly so I can play online. The limited classics catalog isn’t enough to warrant such a price jump when you realize half the games within it are stream only.
ps plus subs would plummet the moment sony makes online free again and they know it! 1 billion dollars of free money per year is why $ony continue to extort its customers
PS Plus is like a weird stalker, it showed up lurking in the shadows of the PS3 era to general mockery and then struck with force in the PS4 era after everyone laughed at it as if to say “I’m not asking anymore, you WILL get PS Plus and you WILL like it.”
I once paid $35 for a new game because I wanted to play the multiplayer. But then when I clicked on the multiplayer button in the menu, it brought me to the PS store. At first I thought the game crashed because when that happens it brings you to a loading screen then the thingy, but it brought me to to the ps plus screen. I'm like "okay, if I need this its probs not that much" I look at the prices, 60 GODDAMN FUCKING DOLLARS, about 2 times the amount I paid for the game. WHAT THE FUCK
2:03 back then playstation was offering play online for free so we knew that it was cheap to operate these servers its just that people didnt push back on xbox and sony was like well our competitors are doing it why cant we
In Canada basic tier is 107. Something dollars with taxes which is complete bs. Without taxes it’s 94.99$. They should just make the price at least 20 usd
My fear is that Xbox Gamepass is enticing users with low fees, will consolidate as many games studios as possible, and then one day cut off access to outright buy games. Instead of $60 or $70 it will just check if you have GamePass with no other purchase option. Then slowly they will raise price of the subscription service with no alternatives to play Call of Duty, Halo, or other Activision/Blizz/Bethesda/Microsoft games as they're all owned by one mega corp now.
not defending gamepass/microsoft here... but at worst i see the price going up. if they dealt solely with consoles sure. but all these games get released on steam too. and as big as steam is, i doubt they could just cut them out to begin with. much less see a massive profit by doing so and making games a "rental agreement" like you described. microsoft saw HUGE backlash when they attempted to make the xbox one online only and they changed that. imagine if they tried to make it so you cant buy/own games? sure, some might go along with it but 98% of the population of gamers would just stop paying them.
That is true, it’s also true that digital whether it steam, PlayStation, Xbox, switch, if anything ever happens to your account to you can’t access it you loose access to your entire library so a entire digital future wheather through gamepass or digital purchases you don’t own anything
Whoever decided to charge just to play online on consoles deserves a special place in hell. It's free on Steam and always will be. It was free with the ps3 and before. Coincidentally, after the ps3 is when all the sony consoles started being bad.
a lot of this video is pretty correct and I agree, however Sony made the decision to have a disc and digital version of the console so people who had less money could buy a digital ps5 instead of a disc one for $100 less, and even if there wasn't a digital version of the console, the disc edition would still cost the same as it does now.
That is not true they did that because they knew they could get a lot more money plus back when the ps5 came out people weren't comfortable being all digital. They released the new version of the ps5 again with that being the main ps5 and it is digital. The whole pay to play online was the reason I bought a pc back in 2018 and it was the best decision I had made free online and I know sony would want to increase their player count at somepoint by slowly selling on pc and at somepoint making a Playstation Launcher the difference would be they won't be able to make people pay for online because they know on PC people have way more options if they do that.
@@HariGill I know you didn't talk about pc, I also have a PS4 I was just saying sony didn't make the disc version for the people it was just because of the times it was being released. But I think I went on a rant when I added pc in because the last console I had was Ps4 and I just felt betrayed as mostly a sony console player yes I had an Xbox 360 but I mostly played sony consoles back then. I just stopped being on any side as I grew up and just chose to play on the device that gave me the best options as a gamer.
I switch to PC in 2014 and haven't looked back since. Cheaper games, free games that are actually free, free online. The ability to customize both my games and my system to _MY_ liking. Also with Playstation releasing their precious exclusives to PC, there's really no reason _NOT to_ switch to PC. 🤷♂
Ditching my ps5 for a pc is the best decision i have ever made in my life More fps , more choices in how you play (keyboard & mouse + controller) , dirt cheap games (not mentioning our friends who love to sail the sea "wink wink", free online multi-player , much more customization capabilities, the ability to play old games also for dirt cheap , and above all of this , there are like 3 or 4 ps exclusive games currently and they are getting released on pc very soon , and the rest have already been released on pc , same thing goes for XBOX , its insane the amount of value console gamers are missing out on , i mean yes a good pc bulid is more expensive than a ps5 , but if you know what you are doing you can get a very powerful pc that runs 99% of games on 1440p ultra 60+fps for like 700-800$ , i bought my pc new except the cpu ( R5 5600x) and the gpu (amd rx 6700xt ) for around 740$ , it has been 4 months since I bulit it and no regrets whatsoever yet
idc if theyre cheap, I'm not buying 50+ games again. the choice is easy. ps5 all day. and if you really care about online games, ps5 doesn't have modders. sounds kinda cope-y to me
LMAO imagine paying just to play online multiplayer and then charging $160 A YEAR to access backwards compatibility when you can do all of this free on the PC and even emulate and play games for free via torrents on the PC and via Steam. This is clown world. I think they mostly target consoles to clueless kids who don't know any better.
The music is a bit too high, also try to improve the mic asap. Fixing both of these will get you more viewers. Btw YT suggested ur channel, try your best to benefit from this before they stop suggesting it.
Thank you for the suggestion I will definitely work on that in my next essay type video, do you think if I take too long to make a video during this time it will mess me up?
I have been a PC gamer for as long as I can remember, and I recently got a PS5 a few weeks ago - my first-ever console. However, I did not do my research about the PS Plus subscriptions before getting the PS5, because I only bought it for the exclusives, and most importantly, Bloodborne. Owning a game and not having the ability to play online came as a shock to me. It doesn't make sense that I have to pay extra to Sony to be able to play games online. I don't really intend to play any multiplayer titles on the PlayStation, but it would have been nice to have the ability to do so if I ever wanted to in the future. Especially in games like Bloodborne and Elden Ring, where invading worlds and leaving messages for other players are essential parts of the game.
the concept of consoles is simple: pay for the console, then you have to pay for the games that can cost a lot, then you have to pay to play games online the fact that you have to pay at least 80 DOLLARS to just play online up to 160 to play older games feels illegal (and the addition of free monthly games and cloud saving feels like an excuse to make the price higher) I got a 6-month quest+ subscription trial because I got the higher storage quest 3 (which I recommend) and it's quite nice, and it'll be 60/year for 2 free games a month plus a page of free games like fruit ninja and the climb afterwards (and I'll get $25 in store credit for choosing yearly) without having to pay to play online (also there's xbox cloud gaming as a 2d app)
The issue with ps vr is 1: its overpriced 2: it only has 2 games 3: the quest 3 is just better, you get more games, infact better games and you dont need a cable or a ps5
I have a PS5, Series S, and a PC. I do not pay for ps plus anymore, and plan on selling PS5 because the price they want to play online is RIDICULOUS. I only pay for game pass, as you can play on xbox and PC both. PS premium is wayyy too overpriced
@@VincentTarikIt really is just a great catch all. Xcloud is the real witchcraft though. Its so cool not even needing a console to use it. But if you do have one already and games on your system not on gamepass, it allows remote play there too
Overly expensive Games , poor games and a poor and frankly increasingly confusing subscription service is the reason i switched to PC and never looked back
I couldn't believe how hard the Playstation Paypigs didn't even blink when the prices of PSPLUS went up 30% for the right to play worse games. WTF is wrong with these guys?
I hate Microsoft mainly for creating the stupid online multiplayer paywall trend on consoles that caused Sony and Nintendo to follow suit. I stopped supporting PS Plus because i got tired of the online multiplayer paywall crap and i haven't had PS Plus since August 2016 which will not ever again subscribe to PS Plus as long as the online multiplayer paywall exist on Playstation's ecosystem. It sucks that there aren't enough gamers especially not enough big content creators with their blue check marks speaking up against the online multiplayer paywall and it sucks that a lot of them accept it without even putting up fight against it. I made a vow that if Sony doesn't entirely remove the stupid online multiplayer paywall crap by the time the PS6 comes out' i will skip the PS6 entirely. I'm usually a man of my word. Also, it sucks that some gamers defend the online multiplayer paywall crap.
heres a fun fact from our friends over at the golden box. in around 2020-2021 they introduced free online services, if your game was free then you didnt need gold to play online, just hop right into roblox and have fun. fucking free games. because no no if i pay 60 dollars for a fucking cod title no i dont wanna play against actual players, no no i just wanna sit in my lonesome doing jack shit, *WHY THE FUCK DO YOU NEED GOLD TO PLAY ONLINE IN GAMES THAT YOU PAID FOR AND NOT IN GAMES THAT ARE FREE?? LIKE IM FUCKING BEWILDERED HOW THEY THEY CAME TO THE CONCLUSION YOUD WANT TO PAY 90 BUCKS FOR THE NEW ANNUAL COD RELEASE THAT ADDED THE SUN AGAIN.*
should think gold and ps plus being online access shouldn't exist at all and as for online games you should know its obvious that right there is scam when come to free games like why you allowed to download game that is free and forced to buy ps plus/gold for game that is purely online only
People , dont give up until the end. Keep buying your games on physical media even if it's not as convenient. The day will come that Sony and MS will completely control and own all of your digital library purchases and force you to get a digital console. Unless something drastic happens you won't be able to pass down, sell or back up your game collection, as its not yours just the permission to play them (they call it a license). My kids will be getting my ps1, 2, 3, 5, xbox, 360, xbone, series, n64, gamecube and wii collection and game library to do with as they please. It matters if you love this hobby /endrant
I miss the time when we could play games online without this stupid PS+ program. Yes, I love pulling out 80 dollars out my pocket a year!! Time to go beg Microsoft to make their own servers!! How fun.
I actually downgraded to 1 month tier for PS plus because there other tiers are far too much money in fact Sony lost money recently due to them increasing Ps plus cause there is no way people are going to cough up that much for plus I really hope Sony stops this anti consumer nonsense now that the new CEO is in charge.
Well actually from the time this video released to the time of me typing this comment the PS2 is not ONE OF the best selling consoles of all times It IS the most sold console of all time.
i blame xbox for some bad trends, paid online, exclusive DLC, buying companies to make games inhouse and absolutely fumbling like Rare...and they still continue to do this today! They bought Activision but i don't see the change being good until i see the change being good.
I've already played all the good games (well, to my standards, anyway). Some of them I own like Horizon, Fallout 4, Control, and now Remnant 2 (the one good game they added recently). Everything else is lame. The monthly games are lame. Who gives a crap about Lego Hobbit or Cat Quest? What kind of psycho wants to play Police Simulator? Sony needs to pull the dollar bills out of their ass and make their service worth paying for.
the only way to stop these companies is to stop paying for their service until they make it completely free of any charge and in order to do this all the gaming youtubers must stand with us in this i feel like this is the start of the change , i see alot of peaple starting to realise how bad this is
I liked it when online was free on PS3 and PS Plus was just 'free' games. Didn't sign up in the first two years, not that great deal in the EU region. But then PS Network was hacked and down for a few weeks. I think we got PS Plus for one free month after that, can't really remember and can't seem to find any info on that. But at some point I tried PS Plus, and it has some great months. Sleeping Dogs, Hitman Absolution, Assassin's Creed 3, Battlefield 3. Month after month, all good releases. So I was pretty glad. Only bought year subscriptions during sales, which made it alright, as at one point it was needed for certain games and then needed all together. During the 25th year anniversary, the yearly subscriptions were only 25 euros. So I got a couple of them, back then they still were 'stackable'. My PS Plus has become the basic one now and lasts up until somewhere 2025. And you can't stack anymore, so no more buying multiple years. So whenever my subscription will, I will think about it whether I want to extend it again. And yea, I also have the Xbox Game Pass Ultimate, after trying it out on PC and then buying a second hand Series S, and I have been enjoying myself a whole lot more with that, than my PS5.
People keep shelling out money for these subscriptions, so this won't end any time soon. I stopped playing online with consoles years ago and went to PC gaming. Also, emulators offer a lot of playable games and jailbreaking consoles has gotten better for offline content.
Excellent video! Both companies only care about profit, which means the console wars is utterly pointless! Plus all *"exclusives"* will eventually hit PC anyways. 🤷♂️
i havent bought ps plus for like 3 years and im so happy. i only play single player stuff on my ps5 and its still fun as hell. i'm having a hard time finding games that i would like to play online. there would only be gta, some cod games, and what else?? i play hatsune miku, sword art online, some first party stuff, JRPGs like persona. i wish they did it like nintendo, where its 20 or maybe 30 for JUST online play. i would pay for just online play, i dont want the extra games!
I switched from PS5 to A pretty beefy PC and I'll never look back. Online is free, Mods, better graphics and FPS. PS has been slacking soooo hard. Spider-Man 2 was sooo disappointing
Dropped my subscription as soon as the price hiked. oh no now I can’t download among us since is it’s a psplus free game of the month. Whatever will I do…. used to love PlayStation, it’s ass now, especially after building my PC
Ay I do agree with this statement, as a "Sony pony", it seems so dumb how our subscription is way pricey and give us much too little compared to xbox game pass. overall, in my opinion I think each console has their down sides.
Growing up with the PS3 (had an xbox 360 too, but never played on xbox live) online experience made me so disappointed that PS4 online was a subscription service. Primary reason I became a PC guy after that :D
Yep, this is why I got a PC, me and another buddy in our friend group already got a PC, now they're basically working to getting PC's too because Sony is getting way too damn comfortable with their PS+ prices.
Whenever I complain about it i'm a 'fanboy' of the other consoles and it's just 'normal' now Why tf does Sony and Microsoft need money so other publishers can host their own servers? Why the hell does Nintendo need money for P2P games with NO servers? If I buy a game and the console I should be able to use the features without paying more wtf
Sony has been anti-consumer since they started charging for online... If I'm going to pay, it'll be for an actual service like gamepass... Sony's popularity comes from the PS2, those days are dead and gone wake tf up... Js
Regular gamepass doesn’t come with online play u have to pay for ultimate which is more expensive than ps plus premium do to no year option, gamepass core. Is basically lowest ps plus where it doesn’t come with regular gamepass just 20 games at launch and they add twice a year same as lowest tier ps plus just more expensive do to no year option,, so they pull the same stunt, the only difference is all 3 tiers of ps plus comes with online play while only 2 of the 3 subscription options comes with online play for Xbox, gamepass ultimate is the better service so to the day 1 third party games but I rather own my games physically so that doesn’t effect me.
straight facts. Im by no means an xbox fanboy as the only reason i had one was for forza... but at least their gamepass feels worth it. all the exclusives come to gamepass day one AND they dont seem to be taking stuff off as quickly. sony ticke me off a few months ago with this add and delete crap. got snowrunner on plus and they had all the dlc for $40ish so i got it.... only for them to take the game off a few months later. now i gotta spend up to another $40 to buy the game or eat that first $40 as a loss. super unhappy that i missed canceling my $150 subscription when i got my pc. now i got 10 months of disappointing game additions left.
I dint mind the games catalog it gets me to play games i never would have payed for otherwise but yea its soo annoying haveing to pay to play online theses days the worst one is the switch cus i bearly use it so its not worth paying just to go online but that locks me out of games like splatoon and i also miss out on alot of the online stuff in games.
I thought this was going to be about cloud gaming, but this dude is just complaining about online gaming which isn't wrong but a bit misleading. Most people are buying the subscriptions for cloud gaming.
Online at this point is very useless I appreciate the 3 month ps plus extra when it’s on sale tbh, but at this point just sticking to offline is best to go
