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PLC Troubleshooting 101. Basic Steps to Diagnose and Fix Your Machine 

Tim Wilborne
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Diagnosing machine faults is something that gets easier with experience, but if you follow these simple steps, you'll find the problem every time.
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@SteveAxeMeister
@SteveAxeMeister 5 месяцев назад
No matter what you are troubleshooting, DON'T just start "stabbing" at problems. Every test or attempt should have an expected result. That means you have to think it out before you do it. And it's like chess, be ready to perform the next move based on the results of the first move. Easy fixes should come in 1 to 3 moves because you expected results have led you to a logical conclusions. I call it triangulating on the problem. And while really good operators will give you really good insight, to be honest it's rare and too many disappear the minute you show up and if you do get something out of them it may be completely false or they are covering up a stupid mistatke they made. But never forget RULE # 1 !! Check all the power supplies, fuses and circuit breakers FIRST before starting to troubleshoot anything. You don't even need prints for that most of the time. Suddenly you're a genius!
@puntabachata
@puntabachata Месяц назад
Rule #1A: Check and provide PROPER grounding.
@traviscoleman9520
@traviscoleman9520 9 месяцев назад
Schematics? Diagrams? That’s like finding a unicorn in your bathtub. Feel lucky and blessed if you find them.
@TimWilborne
@TimWilborne 9 месяцев назад
Yes!
@alainmilette6460
@alainmilette6460 9 месяцев назад
I once wired a panel, slipped the diagrams in the little plastic sleeve once I was done. Some ages later get called to work on that cabinet.Thrilled cause I know for a fact I left the schematics in the cabinet door. For some reason someone must have felt they belonged elsewhere cause they were gone. I hate people sometimes.
@TimWilborne
@TimWilborne 8 месяцев назад
Too often people put them somewhere for safe keeping then forget about them.
@RealRionRedinger
@RealRionRedinger 8 месяцев назад
Timestamp: 5:59 I’ve been working in a manufacturing plant for about 6 weeks at this point. When a machine breaks - I start by asking the operator to describe in detail what happened and if they noticed anything out of the ordinary before the incident. I also ask them what they have done since it happened. This gives me a starting point to begin looking for the issue. Electrical drawing and machine plans are out of date at best and most of our machines have been engineered in Germany and the drawings we do have are mostly in German. It’s sink or swim baby!
@TimWilborne
@TimWilborne 8 месяцев назад
Sounds like you are doing great!
@dwaynes5983
@dwaynes5983 7 месяцев назад
I found out when you ask the operator I never get a answer. They messed up and dont want the blame same goes for customers.
@ortujexinol
@ortujexinol 4 месяца назад
Usually the operators will tell me right away what the issue is before I even start to ask. I work with a great bunch fine folks!
@calogero100
@calogero100 19 дней назад
Sounds exactly like the plant I’m at, got me trying to read German just to find a part 😂
@herbie5263
@herbie5263 9 дней назад
German is fine, good luck with Chinese 😂
@TerryOwens-v4s
@TerryOwens-v4s 9 месяцев назад
Operators can be valuable if they are good operators. I have lots that dont care or dont know. Being the rookie controls tech i get a lot of crap from the maintenance techs and lately it has come down to always being a " controls issue", because they dont want to bother doing the job.
@TimWilborne
@TimWilborne 9 месяцев назад
Similar to what I said about operators, it is all about building relationships. You are young and talented but they are old and experienced. They need to listed to you but you have to respect them.
@herbie5263
@herbie5263 9 дней назад
When everything else falls into water, get the user's manual 😂
@TimWilborne
@TimWilborne 9 дней назад
😁
@donijrlast2531
@donijrlast2531 6 месяцев назад
Love your Channel !!! when an e stop is pressed if there are multiple estops they will usually cuts power to the inputs or out put or both
@TimWilborne
@TimWilborne 6 месяцев назад
I'm glad you love our channel! They would usually go to a safety relay. Here is a video on them. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-tVn-BychHFA.html
@thomasmcneely5238
@thomasmcneely5238 2 дня назад
Divide and conquering. Power. No power
@TimWilborne
@TimWilborne 2 дня назад
👍
@bobbyyoung2831
@bobbyyoung2831 5 месяцев назад
First thing I ask is...Has anything changed...Who worked on this last...ask operator what's happening...what operator is working...do a visual look around...then start testing with meter etc.
@DFitz-bk7dj
@DFitz-bk7dj 4 месяца назад
The HMI is only as good as it has been programmed! Start with the easiest things and work your way up!!
@darrelljourdan9926
@darrelljourdan9926 8 месяцев назад
Good info. Need to have basic maintenance skills in industrial electricity, power drives & transmission, hydraulics, pneumatics, welding, plumbing to be a good machine troubleshooter.
@TimWilborne
@TimWilborne 8 месяцев назад
Well said!
@RoboticsSorcerer
@RoboticsSorcerer 8 месяцев назад
Ive been wiring up plcs for the last year and still have a long way to go to feel confident. The funny thing is I have an associates degree in industrial robotics. Now Im just looking for work since I just graduated.
@TimWilborne
@TimWilborne 8 месяцев назад
It is a great career!
@deanbrooks929
@deanbrooks929 9 месяцев назад
As someone new to this industry with electronics background it's been an interesting ride. In this plant prints are the unicorn. it comes down to troubleshooting skills. Operators are you friend, until you piss them off. I bring in every operator in to find out what the machine was, or not, doing when the error showed up. They know the machine way better than I do. I have to ask questions otherwise I'll go in circles. Troubleshooting is a true acquired skill.
@TimWilborne
@TimWilborne 9 месяцев назад
Most times, the operator is also appreciative of you asking. It make them feel valued in the troubleshooting process which will make them be more observant later.
@deanbrooks929
@deanbrooks929 9 месяцев назад
@TimWilborne very much so. Just happened last night where I had 3 operators involved in troubleshooting. They thanked me numerous times as a result. Customer service is really the topic here that seems to be overlooked by some folks.
@TimWilborne
@TimWilborne 8 месяцев назад
Very true.
@dotEmfour
@dotEmfour 8 месяцев назад
I train control techs and your advise around 8:40 is spot on. Having the techs trust, or even just their initial buy-in, helps you to get a very clear picture of the block.
@TimWilborne
@TimWilborne 8 месяцев назад
I'm glad you agree
@Brian_irl
@Brian_irl 8 месяцев назад
Is it Destructive (Yes or No) because - if Yes, the process can perform a function (moves) and potentially destroy machine or flesh?
@TimWilborne
@TimWilborne 8 месяцев назад
No, it simply means the instruction that change the data in the tag.
@stanleykania7184
@stanleykania7184 5 месяцев назад
Knapp system here at Dimond drug, Indiana Pennsylvania is a new fulfillment center. Nothing ever breaks down. We maintenance shuttles, tote jams, reset a breakers.
@TimWilborne
@TimWilborne 5 месяцев назад
Observe all you can, as it ages, having a good knowledge of how it should operate will be very helpful.
@nukeelda
@nukeelda 8 месяцев назад
I started just after automation trade school in Tysoon plant 1500 people plant with most new mashines (Spider robots use pc as plc ,one motion motors as servo can be used ,Fanuc robots,studio5000 mostly used also other plc's ,still have old type mashines too but small size, and type network-cloud based operations as a scales and soo on...) we had to learn 80% of mashines how they operate soo first 2 years was hell but now I got a lot of skills for 3 years in the field soo we get call's from mechanics and production but not too much issues overall because they know mashines now to point out what it doesn't doo, it is good experience.
@TimWilborne
@TimWilborne 8 месяцев назад
Those two years were some of the best training you could have :)
@nukeelda
@nukeelda 8 месяцев назад
@TimWilborne yes Tim now we cut and change a lot of conveyor systems where we have to change programs too ,soo overall troubleshooting is now comfortable,even it is new place we still have older machines with no drawings but you found a way with logical approach.
@jglez9372
@jglez9372 8 месяцев назад
Thanks Tim. That was a great video for me. I am beginning to troubleshoot with PlC and I do get lost a lot. I will continue practicing. If there is anything I could set up myself I probably could at work
@TimWilborne
@TimWilborne 8 месяцев назад
You can do it! If you have some spare parts, open them up and start practicing. Also, you can get through the counter lesson of this course with the free version of CCW and the simulator, then you can consider options of investing in hardware. courses.twcontrols.com/courses/allen-bradley-micro800-plc-training
@BretWrightSTUFF
@BretWrightSTUFF 7 месяцев назад
Thank you for validating, get to know your operator!!
@TimWilborne
@TimWilborne 7 месяцев назад
Yes!
@masumahmed7978
@masumahmed7978 7 дней назад
i want to work at your workshop
@TimWilborne
@TimWilborne 6 дней назад
😁
@jaderosenbaum2615
@jaderosenbaum2615 17 дней назад
Where do you livestream at ?
@TimWilborne
@TimWilborne 17 дней назад
At our training center in Roanoke Virginia
@matthewwilliamson1
@matthewwilliamson1 9 месяцев назад
Have you seen the remote setups that yaskawa have for their sigma 7 drive training. A remote plc training setup like that might be interesting.
@TimWilborne
@TimWilborne 9 месяцев назад
Yes, I have seen it.
@73jrock
@73jrock 8 месяцев назад
Tim, I was at a plant over the holidays and in there the downtime cost 20K/min!
@TimWilborne
@TimWilborne 8 месяцев назад
That lines up with what I was researching for a large manufacturer. twcontrols.com/plc-training-part-2
@azael831
@azael831 9 месяцев назад
Love you Tim, Thanks for sharing the knowledge.
@TimWilborne
@TimWilborne 9 месяцев назад
I am glad to help!
@djjuanorivera8830
@djjuanorivera8830 2 месяца назад
Thank You So Much Tim ! , Im Trying to Get as much Information so i can Troubleshooting Equipment with Studio 5000. Most of the Time it's something simple but I need to Prepare myself for the Technical Part. My Regards , Greetings to all.
@TimWilborne
@TimWilborne 2 месяца назад
I'm glad you found it helpful
@brienwilliams4315
@brienwilliams4315 3 месяца назад
It must be nice to have access to plc program. Working 2nd shift most of the time we don't have access to that. So I always ask the operator what is it not doing, than go to what ever makes it do what ever it was supposed to do. And work back from there.
@TimWilborne
@TimWilborne 3 месяца назад
Yes, sometimes you have to work with what you have. Hopefully they'll get some of your 2nd shift folks some PLC training
@scottjones7279
@scottjones7279 8 месяцев назад
Missing prints is everyday.
@TimWilborne
@TimWilborne 8 месяцев назад
Yes, I agree...
@fastforu2
@fastforu2 8 месяцев назад
I would be super interested in the troubleshooting trainer !
@TimWilborne
@TimWilborne 8 месяцев назад
I may revisit it but similar to our machine trainer, it has more to do with getting you in the right mindset for troubleshooting than the actual hardware.
@fastforu2
@fastforu2 8 месяцев назад
@@TimWilborne i definitely agree. troubleshooting is a different animal. I did a lot of online training to learn to program. but troubleshooting was something else for me at first. it’s definitely something completely different and a skill that’s priceless to have when working on unknown machinery. and now have a troubleshooting trainer to practice at home would just make you feel 10x more confident!
@Klincker
@Klincker 9 месяцев назад
Very good points! Been to multiple service calls this week and the only thing I would add is asking maintenance upon arrival what parts or wires have you guys changed/modified?
@TimWilborne
@TimWilborne 9 месяцев назад
Good point!
@john.walley
@john.walley 5 месяцев назад
You are so correct about down time! I'm and engineer converted to cybersecurity and I have such a hard time explaining the importance of 0 unscheduled downtime and that maintenance windows are extremely tight. I keep getting "just update the firmware." Explaining it doesn't work that way to IT security professionals can be difficult. I'm going to start sending people to this channel! So good! Please keep this up.
@TimWilborne
@TimWilborne 5 месяцев назад
I have a video planned to talk about downtime...including risk from cyber security.
@mikeg2be
@mikeg2be 9 месяцев назад
Hey Tim I just signed up for some of the online lessons and the very first link is not loading, also do I need your trainer for these lessons? Thanks
@TimWilborne
@TimWilborne 9 месяцев назад
While our lessons are designed around our PLC trainers, many people use their own hardware. twcontrols.com/plc-trainers
@sparky_murph
@sparky_murph 9 месяцев назад
Excellent video, thank you.
@TimWilborne
@TimWilborne 9 месяцев назад
You are welcome!
@andyatmosphere
@andyatmosphere 6 месяцев назад
Where is this classroom at.? Do you offer education.?
@TimWilborne
@TimWilborne 6 месяцев назад
Roanoke, VA, you can find more information at the link below. twcontrols.com/plc-lab
@durin5880
@durin5880 9 месяцев назад
Thank you for this video!
@TimWilborne
@TimWilborne 9 месяцев назад
Glad it was helpful!
@pizza4breakfast352
@pizza4breakfast352 7 месяцев назад
Mom showing up is soooo wholesome lol. She just loves you so much 😂❤
@TimWilborne
@TimWilborne 7 месяцев назад
She does :)
@jessem7966
@jessem7966 7 месяцев назад
I want to get better at using the program as a tool to determine what the problem is.
@TimWilborne
@TimWilborne 7 месяцев назад
That is the topic of this Thursday's livestream at 1pm ET.
@fatimamukhtar6062
@fatimamukhtar6062 5 месяцев назад
Very very informative video. God bless you. Make more videos like this.
@TimWilborne
@TimWilborne 5 месяцев назад
Thanks, will do.
@fatimamukhtar6062
@fatimamukhtar6062 5 месяцев назад
Would you tell me the issue in this system why not working?
@TimWilborne
@TimWilborne 5 месяцев назад
Use the steps we talk about in this video and you'll figure it out.
@jameshussey4900
@jameshussey4900 9 месяцев назад
Good job 👍
@TimWilborne
@TimWilborne 9 месяцев назад
Thank you!
@Dvalle53
@Dvalle53 4 месяца назад
I would love to attend but I live in north texas. What would you suggest?
@TimWilborne
@TimWilborne 4 месяца назад
Our two most popular states are Texas and California so don't let that hold you back. Send an inquiry in and let's see what would be best for you. twcontrols.com/contact
@Dvalle53
@Dvalle53 4 месяца назад
@@TimWilborne where can I send my inquiry to?
@TimWilborne
@TimWilborne 4 месяца назад
The link in the initial reply
@jamieauriedward9554
@jamieauriedward9554 5 месяцев назад
How can I get enrolled in your class
@TimWilborne
@TimWilborne 5 месяцев назад
Submit an inquiry at twcontrols.com/contact
@JamesGraham1971
@JamesGraham1971 4 месяца назад
Where is your school located?
@TimWilborne
@TimWilborne 4 месяца назад
Roanoke Virginia
@bigt95nt011037
@bigt95nt011037 6 месяцев назад
How do I get info for your onstte training.
@TimWilborne
@TimWilborne 6 месяцев назад
Here you go. twcontrols.com/plc-lab
@Nicofish2023
@Nicofish2023 9 месяцев назад
Thanks
@Nicofish2023
@Nicofish2023 9 месяцев назад
More of it please
@TimWilborne
@TimWilborne 9 месяцев назад
You are welcome
@nagrerelax5602
@nagrerelax5602 8 месяцев назад
Where is the tutorial?
@TimWilborne
@TimWilborne 8 месяцев назад
It is in the live section.
@mw3blackopsglitches
@mw3blackopsglitches 6 месяцев назад
Great video Tim love it!
@TimWilborne
@TimWilborne 6 месяцев назад
Glad you enjoyed it
@WaqarAli-k5p
@WaqarAli-k5p 6 месяцев назад
@k50159
@k50159 5 месяцев назад
You’re awesome
@TimWilborne
@TimWilborne 5 месяцев назад
Thank you 😊
@sheeshjustchill
@sheeshjustchill 3 месяца назад
How can I join that classroom sir?
@TimWilborne
@TimWilborne 3 месяца назад
You can learn more at the following link twcontrols.com/plc-lab
@ortujexinol
@ortujexinol 4 месяца назад
Trust me, in the food industry, operators know more than maintenance on how to lead where the issues are...of course they need maintenance to go in controls and thumb there brains out...but if you as tech dont know what you r looking for, you are causing DT.
@TimWilborne
@TimWilborne 4 месяца назад
👍
@taereed750
@taereed750 2 месяца назад
That’s because they are on the line 8hr of day so operators should kno n be able to explain what’s wrong so maintenance can fix it
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