PLO LUMUMBA - Politicians you're not leading fools, respect Kenyans

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Savage politics is a platform where we have hard-hitting political conversations with the aim of informing and transforming. The show is hosted by Cyrus Jirongo, a long time Kenyan politician and businessman who's been in the political space since the early 1990s. Cyrus Jirongo the host on this episode shares on a one time he had a confrontational experience with former president Moi.
PLO Lumumba the Pan-Africanist is on savage politics breaking down Kenyan and African politics and how it affects the citizens and development. He shares on the effects of bad politics and why Kenyan leadership started to deteriorate over the years. Lumumba gives insights on how countries have developed from poor to top of the world with the hope other nations and leaders can learn from such. Cyrus Jirongo the host also shares on his confrontational experience with former president Moi.
00:01 - Show introduction.
01:01 - Leadership in Kenya vs the different administrations
03:53 - How Kenyan leadership started to deteriorate.
04:52 - How the richest Kenyans made their wealth.
06:02 - President Moi creating political millionaires.
09:30 - Bad politics driving businesses and ethnicity in Kenya.
11:30 - Unemployment vs availability of resources and why we're not resourceful.
17:07 - Labor exports from Kenya and the danger of it
18:03 - How countries are running their countries for development.
19:12 - Political bad manners cannot be cured through the constitution.
24:30 - The political quagmire in Kenya and how to re-engineer leadership
30:00 - The president must lead in changing public service
33:45 - The top leadership in Kenya is the problem
36:00 - Politicians lack visionary leadership
38:29 - Jirongo's confrontational experience with President Moi
42:30 - Cancer cases in Kenya and why they are high in Meru region and its environs
43:35 - Ethnic politics vs ethnic diversity as a resource
49:50 - Uniting ideas, inclusivity for all and culture for development
53:03 - African culture and what Africa wants
1:00:10 - What Kenyans want.

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@annaloum1869 Месяц назад

For me as african from the Gambia i want PLO to be the chairman of the AU who is with me

@WWEST464 Месяц назад

Actually yes!! He has more credentials as a Pan Africanist crusader throughout the continent.it is my considered view,he has indepth knowledge of dynamism and leadership of African politics.this diversity has to be experienced,which he has in plenty!!

@josesango5208 Месяц назад

Yessss

@leonarddhlakama6083 Месяц назад

Those thieves in African politics would not permit it to happen because they pretty well know that they will be exposed.

@mcabbas1mcabbas195 Месяц назад

Oh yes,,,,I'm with you my brother

@ombogajohn Месяц назад

Preachers drink more wine.

@waltergichohi8122 Месяц назад

Lumumba talking about the Moi millionaires/billionaires and Jirongo is one ...is really top tier hard hitting

@emancipatedlionm9215 4 дня назад

Meaning???🤔 did Jirongo acquire his millions as u say through hard honest Work? Questionable ways? Honest Application of skills? Hyena type ways? 😯🧐🤔 just asking...cuz there are honest hard workers among us.. Pro Lumumba raised some of his past experiences 🤷🏾‍♂️🤔

@WWEST464 Месяц назад

Koigi wa wamwere,Gitobu Imanyara,Anyang Nyongo,Paul Muite,Muturi Kigano would be extremely exciting guests.

@variousplaces Месяц назад

Though leadership and planning waned over time

@bonifacewachira2080 Месяц назад

True these guys are of good experience in politics for long

@anoldmawira7129 15 дней назад

We need this big names on the bench

@magerogeorge5337 Месяц назад

PLO is a real son of the soil who is well-versed with the knowledge of our mother land Africa... should be the chairman of AU.

@normanthenormand7554 Месяц назад

That introduction of hyenas and lions sums up who jirongo is . That is exactly what he did to Kenya in the infamous YK 92 together with his former friend now a foe Ruto

@Gabriel-pg7ke Месяц назад

Let jirongo tell us something about YK 92!

@jeremyleakingpen1565 Месяц назад

It won't help in anything

@desmondkasuku8596 Месяц назад

@@jeremyleakingpen1565 it may bring closure

@kenomweri7382 Месяц назад

The Genesis of looting

@johnsonomari8561 23 дня назад

That will bring zakayo into the darts game

@giacomombugua2932 21 день назад

He will do that in due time,ones he releases his book

@garettclement6671 Месяц назад

Clearly, being away from politics brings one back into senses.

@ndegwawarukira2912 Месяц назад

You can't put political Hygiene, integrity and Cyprus Jirongo in one sentence....Jirongo was a billionaire who was leader of YK-92. That outfit engaged in retrogressive politics then, so he has no moral value to tell us about integrity.

@soulqypkenya Месяц назад

And Ruto was his handman back then......

@njugunawaitara4220 Месяц назад

This is my exact same issue.

@patriotkenya Месяц назад

40.00 is why you are here after that Toxic waste revelation. Give a like 😊

@joeyken7791 Месяц назад

😊 Thanks

@zhegal1 Месяц назад

I am surprised that any Kenyan who was post-high school in 1990 does not have this information. Only millennials and later generations genuinely don't know the rest are feigning ignorance

@thabomosima715 Месяц назад

As a South African, I really enjoyed the conversation and how both gentleman voiced their views, which is the truth. Africa needs quality leaders that can provide African solutions. I agree with the closing statements that it is now time that Africa stop blaming its past and colonizers, we should not look for reparation from the foreign countries. Solutions to our problems rests on an African child. It all starts with good leadership that creates a conducive environment.

@rosemarymuita5263 Месяц назад

PLO Lumuba is the Excellent Leader for AU

@kahiumunyiri5354 Месяц назад

I really like the conversation but I would also want to understand when Jirongo saw the light? Anyone who is old enough to remember Kanu days will recall the dealings of Cyrus Jirongo, Sam Nyamweya, one William arap Ruto etc as Kanu's Y92 wing that almost brought Kenya's economy to its knees in the effort to rig Moi in. Money was printed in hundreds of millions to splash in the city estates and the countryside to buy support for Moi and the denomination that most common was the 200/- note such that it was nicknamed Jirongo, a name the note carried up until when the old money was phased out 3 years ago. Is Jirongo then qualified to talk about clean leadership or how does he plan to sanitize himself?

@gasperkiwo6109 Месяц назад

I don't trust this guy at all he is among the thieves you have mentioned.

@lawrencemalika9687 23 дня назад

True

@stevenkitavi9783 Месяц назад

Kibaki was the top of class. When he went to London School of Economics he got a First Class and the Queen awarded him. We got the best during that time 💫

@variousplaces Месяц назад

Those are the pioneers who convoluted education systems in Africa. Do you know that US and UK does not recognize African degree qualifications? Why, because the Mzungu already had an idea how to choreograph stooges starting with Tom Mboya Airlifts to date after 'independence'. They allowed art and political scientist as leaders but very few doctors and engineers and what have you in the technical areas, But at the end of it all, the African has never asked himself enough WHY question.

@user-fg7bf1nd1m 24 дня назад

Lies lies and big fat lies, there is nothing Mr. Kibaki did but a con thief land grabber and he is rotting in hell and he was a criminal traitor tribalist corrupt neptic and he missed the chance to make Kenya great again

@dokwiri Месяц назад

Mr CJ being a host,? Never saw that coming but I like it!

@briannyongesa6632 Месяц назад

From this interviews anyone born in the 2000s and above would complete have a different perspective of Mr CJ.

@VenanceMinde-tj5ng Месяц назад

Cyrus Jirongo is an elder and a legend now,what happened in the past should be put aside.He has realized and I think has regrets whatever mischiefs he did if there were. At an older age,human beings are more closer to their after life than their herelife.

@kevinmurimi2176 Месяц назад

Regrets? LOL you've been played

@normanthenormand7554 Месяц назад

He should return all proceeds of crime then.

@maggynowak3555 Месяц назад

Why 500 was called Jirongo?.

@stanleymakau3409 13 дней назад

Pro PLO Lumumba and my mentor of English and ethics! Stop advising we Kenyans on what we need! Take Fred Mating'i as your deputy; and go for presidency come 2027. You are the only person who salvage Kenya from its current rot.

@lusenakagodfrey5330 Месяц назад

This Forum is a fantastic initiative Hon. Jirongo. Invite Dr. Mukhisa Kitui and Barrack Muluka to dissect the current governance and political economics.

@ayewbc9289 Месяц назад

Barrack mulaka was good before seating on the eating table

@normanthenormand7554 Месяц назад

How dare you call that YK92 thief honourable?

@samuelmakatai6513 Месяц назад

We need PLO Lumumba as Kenyan president, please go for it, prof. The time is ripe

@Believingitright Месяц назад

You sound ignorant towards PLO. PLO is just but an empty tin lots of yelling and yapping with absolute no action. He's a coward who ran away from heading EACC, he couldn't finish his tenure leave alone executing anyone corrupt criminal nor even mentioning one by name. He's a coward, a toothless dog good in barking while blaming others for not sharing a meal with him.

@WWEST464 Месяц назад

This channel will be a platform where sober politicians,opinion shapers and scholars will be able to freely articulate their ideas,vision and dissecting our political environment which is always on a bumpy ride.great time to alive.thank you CJ

@phelgonaatieno9038 Месяц назад

Prof is also a good teacher in law.

@okakaphilemon3500 Месяц назад

This is a robust engagement. The quest for hygiene in politics and governance in Kenya and the rest of Africa

@naomikirubi Месяц назад

The example of Kenya airways is very good,and also when we go to hospitals we never look for a tribal doctors.

@finch4059 Месяц назад

Invite Joshua Maponga III to Kenya and have a talk about the state of Africa.

@jameskinoti3345 Месяц назад

We messed by having politicians manage important institutions like;cdf,county funds...wish they could remain watchdogs to the same n not managers.

@judithokemwa2807 Месяц назад

If God can intervene with great mercy so that Matiangi becomes president, Kenya will finally take off. The evil monsters who are today's government know this which is why he's being trailed everywhere. Matiangi has kept quiet, he's not politically active yet somebody evil is after him. Why isn't Kalonzo being trailed? Why our potentially strong leaders like Omtata and Matiangi?

@Thekiabas Месяц назад

I pray to God to protect this man plo Lumumba so that one day I talk to him before I conquer and unite Afrika 🙏🏽🇨🇩☝🏽

@user-eb5du6ui3l Месяц назад

kindly jirongo what has changed in you from the days of YK92

@austinmwembavala5116 Месяц назад

Natamani sana patric lumumba angekua rahisi wa kenya

@samuelmakatai6513 Месяц назад

I’m a Kenyan in the US and am so proud of this Kenyan son

@davidokello8171 Месяц назад

PLO is sharp. Would rather talk about Africa more as opposed to Kenya. We appreciate your efforts with Malema but we also need your presence in Kenya.

@billymureka7564 23 дня назад

He's into International Space. Kenya is village politics

@wilfredwaigwa2696 14 дней назад

Jirongo please continue this conversation, refine its branding, financing, planning, vision and structuring. Find partners and make it bigger, have a 50 year plan and in that time, it will influence the political culture of the nation of Kenya. Have one purpose, to attend to our political culture.

@edwinvilla3099 Месяц назад

Two wise men , the host becomes the hostee

@theealfahouse Месяц назад

Thank you for watching and sharing your thoughts!

@JAMALARBABSALIHSALIH-rj8cy 20 дней назад

Wonderful conversation, all african leaders if they implement what was Lumumba said, our continent will the best continent in the world.

@variousplaces Месяц назад

The discourses into the human affairs. It's interesting to see PLO hosted by scene of crime instead of crime scene. This is the episode if intellectualism

@engineerclin2030 Месяц назад

This a grandiose idea we remove the economic power from these politicins never heard of it before.i think this could do much better to my country as a youth

@johnfelixnatala6777 Месяц назад

Politics is the art and science concerned with "equitable" resources management...do u think it is possible to separate?

@danielmuriithi8486 24 дня назад

@@johnfelixnatala6777 Yes I mean it would be better than what we currently have. Treat the growth before it festers into a tumor

@knwyourplug 11 дней назад

PLO why don't you enter the fray and change things. You have everything to transform this nation

@universityabraha8030 Месяц назад

Watching from Florida, oh my God this person have telling the truth!

@iscarobuogoh-hohloch2071 Месяц назад

I love the WISDOM PLO has and shares with all who are ready to listen! Brilliant 🎉

@seselunalo 21 день назад

You are on to something

@daudnoor-ol8mk Месяц назад

Honorable jirongo has many history to tell us we need thi history about nyao era,the powerfull ministers and ps's akina hezakya oyugi we need history man

@georgemayo7383 Месяц назад

Very well said and explained.

@odangajoel7605 Месяц назад

Great talk, good ideas.

@user-oo8vo9dq8b Месяц назад

We need Kenyan leaders who embrace the whole Nation with the positions they have been entrusted.Not tribal leaders.Until we gain that level of integrity and maturity we’ll be drawing water with a sieve.

@Wakereu Месяц назад

I think it should be more on who is qualified to do the job rather than where the person comes from.

@user-wh3fx3um9t Месяц назад

Great show. Great points. The issue of Nilotic talk is noted. Today at launching of the Devki project, Murkomen spoke for about 10 minutes in mother tongue. Africa is cursed.

@MERCYNJOROGE-fp3zw 22 дня назад

Mheshimiwa, you are a true genius for creating this channel! I applaud your effort & pray and hope that it will be in existence for a long time to come; the matters you discuss, the guests you bring on is just pure gold! Asante sana Mheshimiwa!

@Joyful-gu5bj 24 дня назад

Pro LUMUMBA always hits the nail on the head by speaking the truth .

@davidadorwa258 Месяц назад

Honourable Jirongo you are really doing great because of enlightenment and opening up our minds . Next election we will be much keen and wise as we electe our leaders basing on what they have done.Another problem is about IBC what are you plus other leaders going to do about that? Coz is big problem.

@marymuthoni1551 Месяц назад

Oh God, bless your heart, PL0, Lumumba, l like the way you love goodness life

@abdallahkweyu7277 Месяц назад

What a great and informative discussion

@julietokoth Месяц назад

This was a very good conversation that aptly described the state of our politics and what we need to do for a better future .

@Joyful-gu5bj 24 дня назад

Very true Prof LUMUMBA am mca warns more than a doctor ,nurse or teacher and that position should be wiped off completely .Political leaders warn more salaries than European countries .Even the British say so .Oh God have mercy on us and deal with alk the corrupt leaders and pray Kenyans will vote through the guidance of the Holy Spirit not bought by the political parties .Kenyans can all see that this leadership is one tribe and doing nothing .

@joeMtru Месяц назад

The pilot example hits hard🎉

@Acacia01 27 дней назад

Great narratives Cyrus. The history you bring is critical to the younger generation to know when the rain started beating us. You are very brave. Thank you for putting yourself out there. Courage is not the absence of fear but the strength to speak irrespective of your fear🙏

@sangnicholas7777 Месяц назад

Mature talk 👌👌

@jaytarshadegreat9585 Месяц назад

Most powerful negotiation and interviews

@snjau7613 Месяц назад

Mr Jirongo,you ask the right questions every time and your past experience offers us how things can be done better. Your guest today like Karua the other day is like a breath of fresh air. We are used to people of little minds in most other forums like this and you have today earned yourself a new subscriber.

@steveomondi4061 Месяц назад

Interesting

@georgeandhoney. Месяц назад

Jirongo is really bringing big guns in his show..

@acholadaniel Месяц назад

Phenomenal Conversation for all Africans...

@judymagu6613 Месяц назад

PLO and Cyrus a very enlightening conversation,thank you !

@garryleslie1256 Месяц назад

This is a great momentum toward Kenyans making soul-searching moments. Are we plunging into a bottomless hole unknowingly or knowingly? The breadth of misgovernance, pompous appellations, looting, and lewd superfluity in government is ominously mind-boggling. We are lurching into the abyss of oblivion and descent.

@BSNewsAlert Месяц назад

🙏

@DiversityWithDianaPodcast Месяц назад

Great discussions. So thrilled to see PLO interlink inclusive diversity with meritocracy. It has been my song since I took a discourse to find out whether diversity is good for governance. Thanks for these conversations Alfa House!

@theealfahouse Месяц назад

I'm glad you enjoyed the discussions! Diversity and meritocracy are indeed important aspects to consider in governance.

@brownmwangome7816 Месяц назад

I’m proud of you Professor,if the greedy leaders spit on your face,we value the revolutionary ideas that you have brought to our continent,keep it up.

@emancipatedlionm9215 4 дня назад

Interesting conversation 😯💥🦁

@azengakevin2310 23 дня назад

I adore PLO

@emmanuelwanyela1922 Месяц назад

I like this conversation. I don't think it is loud enough!

@kevinmacharia8496 Месяц назад

Now I love how patriotic jirongo is doing..

@erastusmisando6934 Месяц назад

For the first time I'm watching the Jirongo channel

@flamani54 Месяц назад

Professor Lumumba, please go ahead, and gather Africa's legal minds and write a book of Ethics and Rules for Professional Responsibilities for African public servants, Civil servants, and please seek to it that they are obeyed by those safeguards. What is lacking in Africa as a whole is Morality, both public and private.

@ayurekituz736 Месяц назад

True sentiments from professor coz iur Kenyan systems are manipulated for political gains and materialistic gains.

@mightyworshipscollection4434 24 дня назад

Great discussion here.. keep it up Hon Jirongo

@theealfahouse 24 дня назад

Thanks for listening

@km5933 Месяц назад

Good work Hon. Jirongo

@chrisogonas Месяц назад

Incredible conversation Prof. PLO and Cyrus Jirongo 👏

@Africanallday Месяц назад

Cyrus is smart champ.. #Viva PLO

@user-um6cj3lq7k Месяц назад

2 wise elders speaking wisdom

@ayurekituz736 Месяц назад

Mr cyrus Jirongo umean the current president is not serious enough to change the country as he echoed during his election campaign in 2022 oh that's so wise so Kenyans must know that there taxes are the one take this country to prosperity so votes wisely.

@leonkituyi3935 Месяц назад

Very true that politics isn't an easy thing and by the way like president Mwai Kibaki also did economics and he was once a lecturer in economics as well before he became president and even Mukhisa Kituyi is also a political economist and he was also a politician but very patriotic but even invite him for this talk and he is one of the most brilliant minds

@Sizzlinsothie Месяц назад

Amazing conversation

@theealfahouse Месяц назад

Thank you for the kind words!

@kijanawajana Месяц назад

A very insightful discussion 👍🏿

@theealfahouse Месяц назад

Thank you for watching and finding the discussion insightful!

@kandieeunice8452 Месяц назад

Watching from Belgium..we should have more conversations that speaks honestly and openly of what is happening in the country..If only citizens would use their minds to vote and not vote due to tribalism or being bribed our country would be in a better place...

@michaelyumbya6811 Месяц назад

This is good How is Belgium?.

@eliasbusienei9566 18 дней назад

Jirongo is smiling from inside

@user-hv1il8fr3f 28 дней назад

This is very serious matter let the mps in northern Kenya take up this matter.

@kenomweri7382 Месяц назад

He is one of the many politicians who went against the same principle

@ayurekituz736 Месяц назад

True professor coz A dollar in rich Arab nation is not abig deal so Kenyans leaders must focus on enriching its citizens first then them to follow but Kenyans leaders are manipulated badly with passionate of materialistic gains.

@nelsonatundo1518 23 дня назад

@PLO Lumumba you my be the hope but on the last election we did not have hope.

@VenanceMinde-tj5ng Месяц назад

Prof Patrice Lumumba Otieno you're absolutely 100% correct about how Africa should be governed and administered.However from Cairo in Egypt to Cape town in South Africa as well as from Freetown in Liberia to Mogadishu in Somalia, the African citizens are not willing! May be The African God if there is any,may intervene so as to manifest your aspirations!.Otherwise I I00%concur with your vision and aspiration. Stay blessed comrade.

@emancipatedlionm9215 4 дня назад

When Common Sense has evaded us n fled then hyena acts will continue to rise; A colonized mind will not settle for Oneness...who is actually gaining from the many disruptions within the continent? Helppppppp!

@papd3532 Месяц назад

In 1992 YK 92 Cyrus Jirongo, William Ruto, Sam Nyamweya, Gedion Moi, Joshua Kulei et al destroyed the Kenya Economy which was already struggling under dictatorship of Daniel Moi . Life expectancy in Kenya dropped from 1982 to 1999 to 53 years, the lowest in post independence history, after the 1982 Airforce Coup against the dictatorship of Daniel Moi .

@papd3532 Месяц назад

In 1982 Independence VP Oginga Odinga supported Kenya Airforce coup against Daniel Moi led by Senior Private Hezekiah Ochuka, Sgt Pancreas Oteyo Okumu,Sgt Ogidi Obuon,Sgt Samuel Opiyo,Cpl Obuon,Capt Agola,Fenwicks Chesoli Odira,James Odemba,Cpl Akoth,Atila,Charles Oriwa Hongo,Mirasi,Cpl Njereman,Major Mutua . In 1982 VP Oginga Odinga was placed under house arrest by Daniel Moi .

@user-dr5jo9bi1c Месяц назад

What do you propose then?

@johnfelixnatala6777 Месяц назад

@@papd3532there was no coup 😂😂😂😂it was propaganda 😂😂😂😂to justify the moism personality cult..moi qnd his henchmen canniving witj the rogue somali destroyed many professional airmen careers i know coz my favourite uncle wqs in airforce at that time aged 19..he was later recalled back during kibakis time ......keep on dreaming u was olayed and fckd with propaganda

@leonkituyi3935 Месяц назад

PLO is a very good student of history