Plug and Play HDMI for the N64! | EON Super 64 Review 

Even his voice is perfect for this type of videos

I'll stick with Project64 and N64 to USB cable...

@@guyincognito7308 DO NOT SUPPORT EMULATORS!

@@JMGO1999EternalMajorKakoEscoby why not lol

JMGO Why tho?

I rather emulate it on pc, which is legal for games you own.

@@LeoInterVir Still its better to play original hardware on a tube tv.

@@LeoInterVir Do not Support Emulators!, Even if you have the games!

@@FlintG I Agree 100% with you!

@@JMGO1999EternalMajorKakoEscoby why not lol

The funny thing is that you can completely skip it and use s-video or even RGB (if in Europe) to get at leas the same results if not better for like 1-3€ total cost.

Considering you can achieve the result for literally a fraction of the price...no. The results don't justify the price for anyone.

PAL gets no love... even though it's better

There are others like it that cost much less. There's a different version that costs about a hundred dollars, and another that's about $120 (it plugs into both the analog and digital ports, using the analog merely for stability). Personally myself, I never want to buy the component cables due to their price, and I have an S-video cable that makes it look really good on my HDTV. The component cables will probably go down in price over time if these things become super popular.

@@Bro-cx2jc You are thinking of the GameCube version, the N64 doesn't have a digital A/V port.

Just like most of the products reviewed on this channel lol

Same bro! Mine is 13 inches so its not so heavy. I also have a ps1, ps2, dreamcast and genesis.

@@FlintG Nice, my CRT is 24 inch. S video, component and composite. It's a 2005 Sharp.

@@rap6439 As long as it works. I had a Plasma before and it was decent with SD gaming, but CRT is just like when I was younger. Is there any clone SNES console compatible with Everdrive?

It's most likely that price due to the demand of being able to play older consoles on your HDTV without any expensive upscaling kits and the time it took to design the hardware to work with the N64 and output a stable HD video signal without any lag. $150 is still a bit high though as you can buy a slightly older 720p TV with AV/S-Video and an N64 cable that supports S-Video which is what I use, but then again I'm not sure how much that would cost you. Still nothing wrong with a decent CRT which those are going a bit up in price as well either due to failure or because of demand from retro gamers.

If you don't have anything to compare the cheap converter to you will not know how good it can be. I used to think the same thing, but then I got a RetroTink-2 and never looked back - Clean, bright and works well with my 7800 (oh so much better), SNES, PS1 and N64 . Those cheap upscalers can also add a bit off lag and it matters in the complicated chain of technology. $150 is just too high a price point considering.

The main thing that bugs me about those is they treat a 240p signal as if it's 480i, deinterlacing unnecessarily (actually adding artefacts in). The lack of sharpness and the colours being altered is annoying too, but certainly liveable. Whereas the tearing and fringing that occurs from unnecessary deinterlacing is soooo distracting (it is visible in this video when he gets the star in Mario 64, presumably his capture card has the same logic). I actually bought the component cable for my Wii instead of the composite one after my 13" CRT TV got replaced with a 19" LCD TV, just to eliminate that tearing and combing (by setting the Wii to 480p, it would line double the 240p games or something, while set at 480i it would output proper 240p, and only the component cable enabled 480p mode)

Even when he supposedly talks too much? 😏😉😂😂😂😂😂

I compared it to the UltraHDMI because that’s the closest competitor in terms of price.

@@ThisDoesNotCompute Yes, but perhaps that's even more reason to show the RetroTink 2X give comparable performance at a lower price with more flexibility and only a minor compromise on simplicity.

Yeah those cheapo converters have some bad lag in certain games too. Donkey Kong 64 and Banjo Kazooie for example, the fps drops pretty bad in some areas.

@@excessmaterial Well, it won't affect the FPS but it definitely doubles display latency since it gets double-processed. This creates noticable input lag.

If you use a average S-video cable with your Retrotink you will get basically the same image quality and noise level as the Eon anyhow.

It wont fit in the back of the snes and the nes doesnt use the same multiout port as the snes, n64, and gamecube

eon overprices everything. They wanted like $200 for the GameCube adaptor that carby produced for a quarter of that price.

I didn’t test it, but I would think so. That said, the Wii has the option to use inexpensive component cables and those would produce slightly better results.

I thought the Wii had a different A/V connector? That said.. would it work on super Nintendo and the top loader NES? Same plug

@@adventureoflinkmk2 Maybe I'm thinking of the power brick connector being the same?

Wii and top loader NES do not use the Nintendo av multi out. Wii uses its own AV out and top loader is just RF through an RCA jack

@@ShankMods that's odd.. I thought the top loader NES used the same a/v like snes and n64 and gc Edit: the original nes had the audio/video rca Jack's tho

Coming from someone that's familliar with console mods, I can tell you that's impossible. Ultra HDMI taps into the raw digital video lines, which are not accessable through the AV port. Even if they were, the super 64 uses an svideo encoder, whereas you need an FPGA to handle the digital video

@@ShankMods Damn, was hoping you could just run some wires to the AV port to override the S-video signal.

@@fireaza absolutely not lol. But to be honest, ultra HDMI just requires a tiny notch being cut into the shell for an HDMI out. That's all the cutting required on the case

Are are no cut 3d printed mods for the ultra hdmi. You just swap the plastic housing where the port would go with piece of plastic with the cutouts already made.

It's...not that hard.

Would it work on gamecube? Or even super Nintendo or the top loader NES? It's the same plug

The gamecube one isnt even justfied when Insurrection Industries did the same thing for only $75. Half the price of Eon's adapter. And they didnt even cheap out on quality, using a more premium plug unlike Eon's cheap plastic one. They even include the remote and hdmi cable you need to even use the adapter unlike Eon.

@@adventureoflinkmk2 For the snes no. For the gamecube yes but i wouldnt recommend it as it wasnt designed for the gamecube and it could cause issues overtime

@@ians_parks ah you mean Carby huh but the down side it's only for GameCube first gen not the revision one which only have Analog output, and yes I am agree with you there maybe some issue if these products use for GameCube so maybe update video or someone out there try to experiment with this then share it with us in certain forum, and if there no issue I bet those who have the revision version will happy coz at last they have a way to play their GameCube game at their HDTV.

Yep

Just use HDretrovision component cables on your RGB N64

It wont work for the snes with modification

Yes but there is literally no point in getting one now that the rad2x exists. Trust me Eon will just try and price gouge you $150 for composite only. The rad2x is around $50 and you get all the same benefits of the super 64 since they do literally the exact same thing. Linedouble 240p/480i to 480p while adding a smoothing button.

Sure but it was never intended to so i wouldnt take that risk. Honestly you can get better video out of your gamecube and for much cheaper with a Carby adapter, assuming you have a gamecube with the digital out port. This would be the best solution out there for an unmodified gamecube

EON are overpriced snake oil merchants.

Ultra hdmi

The Eon is comparable to a Retrotink 2x using a S-video cable. Or at least the few people I know what have used the Eon and the Retrotink 2x have said there basically identical. If this is accurate and i suspect it is UltraHDMI has a cleaner sharper image than this. You hit a wall with S-video conversion as you cant surpass the N64s digital to analog conversion. This is one reason high end RGB upscallers such as the OSSC are also superior in this aspect. You do have to modify your system to output RGB first though as it's not supported natively.

Ultra hdmi no contest

No, there's a pal version in development though. Although id recommend getting a Rad2x cable instead. Its essentially the same thing for $100 less. It does everything this device does except uses a composite signal instead of svideo.

Nope. It pulls S-video from the console only. Even on an RGB-modded N64

Get HDretrovision component cables

Its linedoubling 240p to 480p

I use S-Video with my HDTV, the cables are really quite cheap and look pretty clear on the screen.

Theres a pal version coming

@@ians_parks Yeah... but when he mentioned that it was using the S video signals.. i would then just use the retrotink 2x... which does the same smoothing option, and even has a passthrough function...

@@KayoMichiels the retrotink2x is what i use for my n64

Look into getting a Rad2x, is $100 cheaper than this.