Plug-in hybrid or full electric - which is right FOR YOU? | Electrifying

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At Electrifying.com, we love full electric cars but we know that some buyers either aren’t ready for one or can’t make one work in terms of distances and recharging. While the plug-in hybrid (PHEV) is regarded as a good stepping stone for drivers who want the convenience of electric, but need a longer driving range, do they still make sense? Do the rises in energy costs still mean that PHEV owners can save money?
To make a proper comparison, we’ve pitched two of the best examples and worked out all the horrible sums on your behalf. Both carry five people and have a hatchback. Both cost just over 35 grand - depending on spec - and will manage pretty much the same kind of jobs.
Representing the PHEVs is the new Vauxhall Astra Hybrid-e. Capable of covering up to 47 miles on electric, it comes with a 1.6-litre four-cylinder petrol engine for when the electricity runs out. Which it will, because it’s only got a 12.4kWh battery under the bonnet.
Representing the fully electric car is the Cupra Born. It comes with a 58kWh battery, and it’ll get you 249 miles of official range. It’s roughly the same price - depending on spec - but a pure electric car with all the advantages and potential disadvantages that brings with it.
Join Tom as he puts both through their paces and delivers a definitive verdict.
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@StarLuna973 Год назад

I did consider a hybrid car before a full EV but as I live in a rural tourist town, (it’s 15-20 miles to the nearest Tesco!!) and most of my driving is on the motorway, I wouldn’t have benefited from one. I’d run out of electric charge quickly and still need to fill up on petrol regularly. I’m currently waiting for my first EV to arrive - the VW ID.3 😁👍🏻

@TheAllMightyGodofCod Год назад

I have a similar problem... But in my case the battery of an ev isn't enough either. For me, the perfect solution owuld be a phev diesel. So, I will keep my diesel for a while more.

@anydaynow01 Год назад

For me I went PHEV because of the opposite. I might road trip once every fews weeks, but my daily commute is less that 25 km round trip and all my shopping and grocery stores are between work and home, and I can plug in at both. I didn't see a reason to hoard 500 km worth of batteries if 70 km is nearly three times as much as I need on a daily basis (gen 2 Volt owner here).

@daftgowk1 Год назад

@@anydaynow01 snap, PHEV for me. on a bad day medium to long run i get 80mpg, on a good day its all electric, most days really. Averages around 90-100mpg at the moment. Basically works out that most time in the car is on "zero emissions" all electric around town, but most miles done are on hybrid, hence the low average. Its perfect if you are rural and need the surety of petrol going into the Highlands, and in Scotland we have no charging points. In approx 1 year i have yet to find one that works North of the border.

@DariuszTech Год назад

I have both from the last 6 years. Both have it's pro's and cons. The reason I love our phev is the fact it can tow caravan and it's performance. Currently it's faster than our MG5. Which is nice EV but not as comfy and build quality is not the greatest. To be honest I prefer the Grandland X for daily driving town journeys. For the long trips we use EV

@RB-lt8kt Год назад

Hi. You have to be careful towing caravans with a PHEV as you can damage the electric motor or battery. I don't think you are supposed to tow in electric mode ?

@FormulaWhine Год назад

The Vauxhall Astra GTE was a sought after hot hatch with 113bhp and a 0-60 of just shy of 10 seconds. But today, this Astra is just "okay"... How times have changed.

@HulaViking Год назад

I went PHEV instead of EV because of cost, mostly. And secondly because our charging stations here in western US just aren't common enough yet.

@rippedupno1 Год назад

Tom,that is by far your best review. Not trying to be funny or silly, just a well argued, informative review, well done!

@blank8941 Год назад

I just missed out on an excellent deal for an ioniq 5 so instead I got the 3008 225 phev. Have to say I love it but wish the battery was slightly bigger. 20-27miles on electric. The Astra’s bigger battery seems a great sweet spot.

@Its-Just-Gizmo Год назад

I'm making this comment before I watch all the video. I have a mk7.5 VW golf GTE. It's a plug in hybrid and honestly I absolutely love it. Recently my screen said I had done around 300mpg. Also stupid fast for what it is.. It's peak VW "traditional" design. The mk8 I like but I don't love. Anyway I'll watch the video.

@RonE_UK Год назад

I have a PHEV and it has worked out pretty well that most of my journeys are within the EV range. I can totally live with a full EV but reason I didn’t buy one…….they are too expensive.

@elektrischverhaal5166 Год назад

And how much do you use on those purely electric rides? Do the math and maybe the EV wasn't so expensive after all. Many EVs are twice as efficient.

@RonE_UK Год назад

@@elektrischverhaal5166 I actually use very much in EV. I filled up only 4 times a year on a smaller fuel tank. Considering an equivalent EV starts at £40k, yes it’s much more expensive.

@anydaynow01 Год назад

@@RonE_UK Same here, even with going on road trips every few weeks I fill up once every couple months quickly at conveniently located and always working filling stations. I got my gen 2 Volt for less than $17k (I was lucky to get it before used PHEV prices went through the roof) and since I charge at home I have never needed more than the 70 km EV range in day to day driving. When I road trip I just go into hybrid mode and use the battery for when I get the city of my destination. Like you I have no need to hoard hundreds of km worth batteries since the 70 I have is more than enough for 99% of my needs. Maybe in a few years when nation wide public charging is up to snuff, and batteries are plentiful, I will switch and be a BEV hoarder!

@RonE_UK Год назад

@@anydaynow01 absolutely. I have a home charger and I charge the car overnight during the cheap rate so driving locally in EV is cheap as chips. BUT would I recommend a PHEV over an EV to people probably not. But the PHEV currently suits my family lifestyle. We aren’t the type that drives 200 miles every weekend. We only just completed a 500 miles trip over a few days for the summer, it was a first with the PHEV. Generally it’s just local trips within the EV range or thereabouts. The 500 miles trip was good with engine power on the motorway and switch to EV in the city. I do like to drive in EV. The next car will be EV if development continues and hopefully by then EV prices are more reasonable.

@davidlewis4399 Год назад

@@RonE_UK Cheap rate end in September then cost between EV and ICE will be similiar especially if you charge up away from home.

@marvinsamuels1237 Год назад

I considered a used Golf GTE last year, but thought it I’m getting a charge point installed I may as well go full EV. Also, most of our daily mileage is local school runs and commutes with the odd longer journey to see family. I’m glad I made the switch when I did.

@cotswoldphotographers Год назад

I do agree with you however think for a lot of people having the option of electric and fossil is the way to go. Electric is definitely the future but it needs to be a gradual change. I know that for pretty much all of the year I could happily drive around on electric only and that when I have to do a long journey I know I’ve not got the stress of having to recharge.

@m6780 Год назад

It would be the PHEV for me. I live in a semi rural area that doesnt yet have the greatest public charging infrastructure. I work in a service industry requires me to be able to go at a moments notice and waiting even 30 minutes would delay my eta. Which would be a negative for both my customer and my employer.

@foxnfirkin Год назад

I had to make a similar choice for my company car scheme but the options were a308 phev vs an e-C4. Looking at the Citroen range calculator for motorway driving in winter, it predicted a range of only around 130 miles which I found was way too short to be practical. Shame as I would have loved going full ev.

@Telcontarnz Год назад

By far your best review. The right amount of dad jokes vs brilliant information. Ev for me!

@toyotaprius79 Год назад

The key note for PHEVs is what kind of hybrid it is. Series or Parallel hybrid? Single motor? Dual motor? Through-the-road? Planetary gearbox power split device, ie Series/Parallel ? A big battery in a Toyota hybrid is the best of both worlds. A big battery in a Mercedes or BMW hybrid is just cynical Stellantis is unproven so far, besides the Citroen DS5 hybrid skeleton

@anydaynow01 Год назад

It's too bad they discontinued the Volt, the Gen2 is everything one could need in a planetary gearbox PHEV if you have a place to plug in at work or home. Poor, more like, nonexistent advertising killed it. Few folks even know how advanced it was until they do research for themselves. A lot are selling for near or more than original MSRP these days.

@britishminiclub Год назад

We can never understand why MINI didn’t build the Clubman with a hybrid option, rather than only having the Countryman hybrid

@stefanhenneken5415 Год назад

I have ordered Astra PHEV. I am driving mostly just to the work and back home, about 31km = 19,26 mi. I am getting a charge station to my home and to the work as well so it shouldn't be a problem for pure electric drive, but... My plan is that I am driving to Izmit, Turkey from Finland where I live (3 556km/2 209,6 mi one way), through few different countries, several towns and villages and staying in the queue on borders where electric would be great compared to petrol. And from Turkey I will go to the Bosnia and Herzegovina before goin back to home. It will take about 4 nights to get my destination in Turkey with my current car (full petrol, about 830km/515,74 mi per full tank). How long it will take with full electric car? Last time I went, I filled my tank every morning when I left from hotel (or ferry of Helsinki - Tallinn) and two times (Bulgaria and Turkey) on my way from Belgrade Serbia to Turkey. So with petrol engine I took 6 stops for getting petrol. Few more for having coffee and snack and my stops last approx 15min if even that. I noticed though that many hotels had option for recharge electric cars now days, but the distance between hotels on my case was about 800km and the last one was even over 1000km.

@richardjohnson5529 Год назад

do not like the colour of the Astra and why have you got a left hand drive version?

@dbedford1000 Год назад

Great comparison, thanks.

@francammock2858 Год назад

thanks, that wasvery helpful

@jamesmccormack3229 Год назад

I drive an Ioniq5, have to say though I am loving the design inside and out of the new Astra. Seen one in black the other day and it looks soo nice 😍 I love the Cupra too, looks like a wee hot hatch, although is really more a warm hatch. I do think the interior being so sparse and the infotainment system let's is down. I think that Cupra have done well making their infotainment better than other VW group cars, however its just not good enough sadly.

@RB-lt8kt Год назад

Yes but at the price point the Cupra can't be beaten when you consider the interior space. The same ID3 costs more, why VW ? My Born is always giving 4 miles per kwh or better. I liked the original Ioniq as its concept was brilliant but its range and rear leg / head room let it down. Its a shame the Tuscon wasn't designed as electric with a 200 mile range or Kia Sportage which is the same underneath. Most people don't need more than 200 mile range cars they just get range anxiety as they are used to petrol ranges of 400 miles.

@richardchester2148 Год назад

Full EV on order here. Looking forward to its arrival (delayed currently since its proposed build week in the middle of June). Switching from a 2018 Audi S4 which I'll miss, but am sure the inbound car will be just as entertaining and a bit easier on the fuel bill. Here's hoping it'll be worth the wait!

@davidlewis4399 Год назад

EV entertaining did you have a test drive ? Considering the Electricity rise in October the fuel bill may not be easier.

@richardchester2148 Год назад

@@davidlewis4399 I did indeed Sir, several in fact. All fully costed, coming from a V6 petrol (a fantastic car, I will miss the exhaust note), the switch to the etron GT (utilising strong equity values in the existing car) makes sense for me, even when factoring in potential rises in utilities beyond October '22. For me I fixed on an existing Octopus Go tariff having been with them a while which keeps me safe until Aug '23, giving very competitive night off-peak rate for charging an EV and home battery. Granted, EV's don't work for everyone but for me personally the jump across from ICE makes sense at this point.

@RB-lt8kt Год назад

I did lots of research before buying a Cupra Born. You forgot to mention the servicing costs. ICE or hybrid car £15 to £20 per month compared to the Cupra Born at £7 per month (3 years at £7 a month including 1st MOT and a set of wiper blades) on a service plan. I chose the Born as it will have a higher trade in or resale value in 3 years as supply will still not meet demand. The Born has loads of leg room (I am over 6ft and can sit in the rear seat behind my driving position with leg room). The bigger battery version wasn't available but I wouldn't have bought it as it adds weight reducing the efficiency and takes longer to charge to the same percentage of charge for an extra 40 miles. I have done 500 miles for for just £10 as I top the car up when I visit Tesco where there is FREE charging to about 11kw (supposed to be 22kw). I am annoyed at the plug in hybrids blocking the 11kw / 22kw chargers instead of using the 7kw ones as they don't really need the charge unlike us EV drivers but possibly can't blame them. Most plug in hybrids don't get more than 35 miles on electric.

@SigmaJAD Год назад

I own the Born. As for handling, this week's rain has exposed a little flapability. Mmmm it likes to move about on the road. Great if you're confident but .........

@richardjohnson5529 Год назад

i would buy the Astra over the Cupra as you keep saying the charging infrastructure is getting better but it is not.

@simonreeves2017 Год назад

Another good review from Electrifying. I’m 57 and cut my teeth on being handy with cars, I’ve always done my own maintenance then I can. However, I went EV in 2019 and have no regrets. What concerns me most about a PHEV is its complexity. What happens when this vehicle is out of warranty and it starts going wrong? The beauty of a pure EV is everything you have identified in this review, but also the wonderful simplicity (and efficiency) of the drive train, which should easily easily work reliably for at least twice the distance of a combustion based vehicle, and probably much more.

@davidlewis4399 Год назад

Reviews I have seen suggest EV's are by far the releast reliable form of transport on the road !!

@simonreeves2017 Год назад

@@davidlewis4399 Hi David, I’ve had my EV for 3 years now and I have not had any reliability issues at all with the car. I have had problems with public chargers not working though, which is very frustrating.

@wilkoone9155 Год назад

I'm 76 & have been driving BEVs for 14 years now. We are on our 5th, both my wife & I drive BEVs & we never suffer from range anxiety or ever had. Most of our journeys are long ones. She has a Zoe & I a Skoda Enyaq. In my view hybrids are a complete con & should be taxed out of existence!

@orch1066ard Год назад

I'm not patient enough with charging a full EV, just ordered a PHEV:)

@stevencampbell1150 Год назад

Great review Tom but I'd have been more surprised if you'd have ruled in favour of the Astra which was never going to happen because let's be honest it's a pure Electric car channel you host so it's obvious you were never going to be in favour of the hybrid. With that being said if I had 35 grand to spend as a private buyer I'd still be sticking with diesel as a phev tho'it would work for me on the short local trips I do, on the longer motorway commutes I do of 70 miles a day neither the phev would like it as it'd be hard on the petrol and the electric would be harder to the battery because driving at less than 70 to save battery on the motorways I travel just isn't an option and the charging infrastructure where I work is rubbish, 8 electric points for several thousand staff really isn't great and eve they don't work all the time.

@dan_delaney Год назад

Having gone for a PHEV for the tax benefits on my last company car (electric cars weren’t available on the scheme at the time) I’ve done just over 10,000 miles and about 8,000 of those local journeys on electric. Definitely will be going full EV next time my renewal comes up - even more tax benefits and a smoother driving experience. I can’t stand it when the PHEV kicks the petrol engine in. Downside is that I only get 25 maximum miles of range (in the summer heat) around town. Much less in winter, or on faster roads.

@richardjohnson5529 Год назад

i like the Born grey colour on the outsidebut there is much to much grey on the interior

@athollmcnicoll1028 Год назад

Yes Tom (Wooky) Bojrn for me as well if I was changing I'd go for, as I love sporty cars.

@mrmawson2438 Год назад

The Cupra is the same body as the ID3 I think

@garethnoble11 Год назад

As private owner the pure electric also saves hugely on maintenance.

@Rudtrack Год назад

I've found that my problem is not with full EV or not, but rather that every EV that fits my needs is an SUV. And I really don't want and SUV, but I need more space than what hatchbacks can provide. What I'm trying to say is that I would really love a good wagon EV rather than a SUV. So for me it's PHEV until those (hopefully eventually) arrive

@richardjohnson5529 Год назад

but the difference between Born and the Astra is that in the Astra i can drive to the lake district and back from London on one tank of petrol how many time will i have to stop and charge the EV?

@RedBatteryHead Год назад

The trick is you don't burn petrol. A born runs 380km and needs 30min charge for the next 300.

@jonathantaylor1998 Год назад

Indeed, that may well be true of the Astra. But, whilst you're doing what you're doing out & about in the Lake District, you're car is sat in a car park, charging up ready for your return leg. It's simply a change of mind-set... after all, we've had over 100 years of driving ICE cars, so it's not a surprise that most drivers still expect to leave their car sitting idly doing nothing during the day.

@anydaynow01 Год назад

@@jonathantaylor1998 It's a numbers and resources game, a larger percentage of home owners can drive emissions free with PHEV than BEV for 90% of their driving. Once battery production even gets to the point where most folks can have a PHEV, then we can worry about having enough for everyone to have a BEV; the resource mining/refining and battery industry just isn't there right now to let most people hoard batteries in a 300 to 500 km range BEV if they don't need that range daily (or live in apartments). If everyone went and put in an order for a BEV tomorrow the wait list will be years before we transitioned their commutes to being emissions free, that time would be much less with PHEV.

@richb326 Год назад

Been driving a Phev BMW for the last 2 years. Nice car but really compromised, mainly by the ridiculous lack of boot space and the fact that it feels heavy and a little bit cumbersome Probably full EV for me next time

@Thulebeez Год назад

Originally i was thinking of going PHEV but after watching the video maybe going full EV is the cost effective route.

@stuartbailey261 2 месяца назад

A year on, I think the EV advantage has gone if, like me, you do lots of long journeys for work. Public chargers are so expensive now (79p + per kW) that a petrol or diesel car is probably less expensive to run, and the government mileage allowance covers about half what I can claim back. With that in mind I will probably have a Kuga PHEV as my next company car, I can’t afford to run an EV for company use, even when taking the lower company car tax into account. Many others at work have the same though, so EV sales will likely slow over the coming years. A real shame, as I love driving EV’s, even when travelling 20,000 miles a year in a Kia e-Niro. PS - my Wife has a Mini Electric SE so I will still get to enjoy some electric driving!

@_TrueDesire_ Год назад

hands down PHEV. but after 3 years with Leaf, 2017 i3 and now a 2022 i3S I said screw it and bought an old Type R instead 😂 only EV that can tempt me is the ET5 so I can swap the battery when travelling. the Astra looks good though 👍🏻

@RB-lt8kt Год назад

Yes but how many other cars will want their batteries swapped at the same time, just look at a petrol forecourt ? The Battery takes 10 to 15 minutes to swap so battery swap not practical for cars unless they are really small.

@_TrueDesire_ Год назад

@@RB-lt8kt no it takes 5 minutes to swap and you can still charge the car as per usual.

@RB-lt8kt Год назад

@@_TrueDesire_ So how many swap bays will there be and how many cars waiting ? EV drivers need to rethink their car use and bigger batteries aren't needed 90% of of the time for most peoples day.

@_TrueDesire_ Год назад

@@RB-lt8kt since I live in an apartment I won't look at anything with less than 85-90 kWh making a solid 400 km during our cold -25C winters. It's better to have one EV with a big battery than having two cars doing the same A-B route. We have issues with our charge network in Sweden and we will have restrictions on the output of the chargers again just like we had early and mid summer. Sometimes I saw "waiting for power" or only getting around 20-35kW in the same temperature 😐 If I want a more spirited drive I take my old FN2 Type R or my 2016 Kawasaki Ninja any day of the week 👍🏻

@RB-lt8kt Год назад

@@_TrueDesire_ Nice ICE rides but I would have an I30N as its more fun than the Honda Type R (I owned a I30N and my friend hated it as he drove a Honda Type R ). I think all countries need to install charging where people park but I think its down to cost and yes cold weather does cause range issues.

@anthonyonwuna2289 Год назад

Mercedes A class phev has a 22kw battery... 80mile range, Better than both

@examinerian Год назад

It's a myth that a '47 mile EV range' PHEV only gets 47 miles on electric over a long, multi-hundred mile journey. For example, a friend of mine has a Discovery Sport PHEV, (low 30's pure EV range), did a 400-ish mile journey NE to SW UK, and on that journey the car returned around 120 miles of EV driving when left to its own devices to work out when to switch the ICE on. It's not going to end up cheaper than a decent v rapid charging 300+mile EV, but it's not a simple case of journey - stated EV range. I'd have the Seat, by the way. Someone tell me when they've finally got round to backlighting the heater control touch-slide thingy...😁

@903lew Год назад

The family has got a PHEV 3008 the last few years and while it’s a great car in most ways the electric range is abysmal and in the cold the engine starts up all the time just to idle and provide heat. Skoda Enyaq on order, enough with this fossil nonsense.

@FancyaBevMate Год назад

PHEVS are 15 years late in my opinion BEVS don't need all of the "old" drawbacks to carry around qnd service not to mention when that pack is dead they will have worse efficency that an even "older" ICE vehicle. I advise people to stick with ICE until they are completely ready to go over to BEVs. Cheers

@RedBatteryHead Год назад

When you want to be environmentally conscious and run EV with your PHEV you need to Charge every for trip. Your over year consumption needs to be above 1:50 (l/km) to match an BEV on coal power. A BEV doesn't need daily charging and makes your trips way more relaxed. And you'll save way more on expenses an environment.

@carlosa1801 Год назад

But does this factor in the huge impact on environment from the battery production? I think driving a PHEV over 90% of the time in EV mode is more environmentally conscious than driving a BEV with a battery the size of 5 PHEV batteries.

@gordonbateman3851 Год назад

I’m interested in purchasing an EV but I feel battery technology and infrastructure is not there yet. After a recent long journey and stopping at multiple service stations I noticed only a couple of chargers in the car park, if both are taken you’re screwed. Lithium ion batteries degrade over time but they are getting better and technology is improving all the time. I don’t think the EV will be a better replacement for combustion engines until the batteries and charging improve. I can easily obtain 70 plus MPG or 700 miles on a tank with my 1.6 diesel estate plus £30 annual road tax. The technology has a little further to go in my opinion

@mikadavies660 Год назад

What I was hoping for was PCP plans on EV's to make them really affordable. As their residual values are high and their lifespans are long. But so far buying an ICE vehicle new is still cheaper. Which is extremely disappointing! A recent quote for an MG4 is over £400/mth with £5k down. Which is hopeless. A new MG5 is cheaper per month than an MG4 whilst it costs the same new! At £400/mth I would lease a Megane EV or an ID3 / Cupra etc.

@ImmortalMachine Год назад

When are the prices going to come down? 35k is just too much at the moment.

@TheAllMightyGodofCod Год назад

When are the prices going to come up? Probably tomorrow....

@jonathantaylor1998 Год назад

£26k gets you the Cupra Born-sized, 200 mile range MG4

@ImmortalMachine Год назад

@@jonathantaylor1998 unfortunately I think that's a very ugly car

@ramblerandy2397 Год назад

Didn't even consider a hybrid. That Vauxhall hybrid would have had enough electric miles for my daily range. So why bother with lumping around loads of extra complication and service requirement? I run a VW ID3 and I've made 3 road trips with it. The first time I had a tiny bit of range anxiety, but that went away almost immediately. So, if your daily mileage is well within the range of the BEV, don't bother with the hybrid. It's 95% disadvantage with the hybrid. The 5% is the familiarity, but that advantage goes away fairly quickly as you familiarise yourself to the BEV. After that the BEV is 100% better.

@sargfowler9603 Год назад

I'd like to see how much these cars are worth in 3 years time. I feel the Cupra will be worth more.

@skepticalmechanic Год назад

Prius Prime

@markgaudie80 Год назад

47 electric miles sounds impressive but it is WLTP rating so in reality it will be more like 35 miles ish I’d say depending on outside air temperature and driving styles. I bet you the engine kicks in constantly when you want a nice warm car. That noise when you boot it sounds awful! Much rather have silent effortless power. Nice effort Vauxhall but this will become outdated very very soon.

@firefox4622 Год назад

Mg4

@freelancehugh6919 Год назад

Three bland words I challenge every electrifying presenter to stop using: Interesting. Quite. Nice. Makes everything sound ok-ish and only half intended.

@markgaudie80 Год назад

The owners than can plug in at home will change their mind after a few years and go all electric most likely. The idea of wasting cash on fuel will annoy them once they see how little charging can cost at home with an EV tariff.

@bikeman123 Год назад

Didn't recognise you without the hair. Can't help but think that fully charging a phev battery nightly isn't going to help its longevity.

@ianpalin8318 Год назад

Wrong PHEV, the RAV4 is the only one to have.

@mrmawson2438 Год назад

Hello mate

@BHBeckenbauer Год назад

I switched from a PHEV (BMW 330e) to a a EV (Volvo XC40 Recharge) and actually found the EV easier to live with. I charge it 1/2 times per week, VS the PHEV that needed to be plugged in every night to make the most of it

@mks2310 Год назад

Just bought cupra born

@jonathantaylor1998 Год назад

Due to the one-size-fits-all stupidity of the UK company car tax system, the sad reality is that most PHEVs end up in the hands of long-distance reps - exactly the demographic of drivers LEAST suited to driving a PHEV. I did some research comparing the mpg and CO2 emissions for company car drivers running the very popular BMW330e PHEV vs the BMW 320d. When I was rep-ing, I was averaging about 100-130 miles per day. So, for the first 35 miles or so, the BMW 330e is running on electric, but then the 2.0 litre petrol engine kicks in, dragging around the extra 200kg or so of the weight of the (now) dead batteries. That hits it's average mpg and CO2 emissions hard. In fact, I calculated that the BMW 330e used more gallons of fuel and emitted more CO2 gases than the regular 320d over the same annual mileage. Sadly, just as the great company fleets push to diesel powered cars in the 80s/90s has now come back to bite the climate in the a**e, I fear so will the actual environmental impact of PHEVs in future years.

@firefox4622 Год назад

Cheaper then both cars

@timaustin2000 Год назад

Concise description of why, to my eyes, PHEVS no longer make any sense at all and I wouldn't touch one with a 10 metre cattle prod. Been full EV for 4 years and never regretted a mile of it.

@neilbissett1240 Год назад

Rather have the new Honda Civic 😎

@anydaynow01 Год назад

Depends on the person's commute, for a long commute or they can't plug in daily then definitely get a BEV, if it is short enough to fall within their PHEV's all EV range and they have a place to plug in daily that is the best option for them, especially if they go on the occasional road trip. In fact most home owners with short commutes should have a PHEV, no need to hoard batteries to create wait lists for BEVs that are months or even years long. Way more commutes can be carbon free now if the battery supply was spread out over more PHEVs. When battery production starts to ramp over the next decade the luxury of hoarding batteries you will never use regularly with a BEV can be more of an option for everyone. It's not a one sized fits all proposition.

@mrmawson2438 Год назад

EV only all the way for me if I drove

@thomasstevie Год назад

A "hum drum" hatchback for £35k. No thanks

@dburke1804 Год назад

Laughable that the blobby Cupra looks better.

@pokerman111111111111 Год назад

I dont see the point of phev's. the worst of boths worlds. ice drivers will buy one then complanin at the constant charging and poor range,if you can run on battery most of the time just get a full EV. i just charge mine once a week at home.simples

@jimmyc38 Год назад

For me this is the point for a PHEV, 95% of my journeys like most are within the electric range of 30ish miles, I have a 7.4kw home charger so can charge every day or every couple of days, but if I’m making say an airport run which is over 300 miles round trip, I don’t have the hassle of having to find a charge point and all the things that this brings, a modern PHEV using satnav manages the traction battery to deplete it to maximise the petrol mpg, so you can for example tell it (car) your destination is at a charging point and you’ll get there with near 0% traction battery but will have maximum MPG . I have had my PHEV since 18th June covered 1,250 miles and only filled with £10 of petrol. The rest has been in EV or hybrid mode. I never have any range anxiety and literally have the best of both worlds. Sure a full EV I would charge once a week, but the 5% of journeys I would potentially have to plan more meticulously and also add that extra time to my journey.

@peacem8574 Год назад

EV Hatchbacks have incredibly bad looking shapes, they remind me of the A2.

@mihaicozma8564 Год назад

PHEV all the way, BUT not this awfull Astra.

@scotlandsk Год назад

Must be a slow day.

@strangnet Год назад

With a PHEV it's even more important to be able to charge at home - you don't want to waste battery traveling to charging stations. Also, why is it always petrol vs electric in regards to cost or "inconvenience" of charging when the petrol still release toxic fumes and contributes further to the huge problems we're facing with climate change? I don't think anyone minds stretching the legs and having a bathroom break after 200 miles behind the wheel, and meanwhile you charge the car.

@AleksandarStefanovic Год назад

Regarding the climate change contribution aspect and pollutant emissions - not everyone cares about that, especially if they're considering a PHEV, so I assume this video is for people for whom that is not a major factor when making a choice regarding the type of car they're purchasing. So, for those watching and caring about the environment, they can additionally take that into account when deciding.

@alexanderfarquhar2712 Год назад

Electric cars produce more Co2 emissions for the first 70,000 miles of their existence than petrol or diesel...so if you care for the environment...buy petrol or diesel....just asl Volvo

@therandomusarneim5678 Год назад

Making a big battery has a very big impact on the environment. It's better to buy a plug-in hybrid if you very rarely use the petrol engine, that is if you can keep charging it and rarely go past the electric range.

@TheAllMightyGodofCod Год назад

Patrick, I would and lots like me would. Every week or so I need to drive (after a full work's week) about 380km, at 120km/h... And then return on Sunday. I can assure neither me nor any of the thousands that do that regularly will want do drive slower and add time to the trip or spend extra time recharging. "Oh it is the time to go to the bathroom and stretch your legs" no, it is not. I have clocked how much time I spend since turning of the key, going to the bathroom, stretch my legs and drink some water or eat a bar and the longest it took me was 8 minutes.... In 8 minutes you won't charge much. Besides, you need to start your journey with a full battery and for a lot of people living in apartments that means an extra hour or so before the trip starts. Add that and no way you will convince someone missing their kids and family to take that extra time when they finally can visit. Don't get me wrong, I believe that electric cars are the future but at the moment they are not the solution for everyone. For a lot of people? Sure... For everyone? No. That's why I could go with the Astra but not the Born and let me tell you, I do like the Born better and would recommend it to any friend but it doesn't suite my needs.

@strangnet Год назад

@@alexanderfarquhar2712 well, caring for the environment means not getting a car at all to be honest. You also forget the many short journeys with petrol cars where the catalytic converter isn't warmed up and most of the emissions are generated - not too seldom on school runs which hardly is good for kids to inhale. Do you include the emissions that petrol and diesel generate before reaching the pump?

@AKA001 Год назад

PHEV Poorman's Handling Electric Vannabe....

@buddywheels Год назад

Dull subject….a view that seemed shared by the presenter too

@thetad1242 Год назад

Harsh

@sandyfordd1843 Год назад

Fully electric only. Don’t waste your money on a PHEV. The future is BEV, not PHEV.

@rogerstarkey5390 Год назад

Aren't we past that question?

@toyotaprius79 Год назад

Yes and no People don't know how different hybrids can be. Hence why PR departments have their way with us and their misleading bs

@peternystrom921 Год назад

No.

@Displays.1234. Год назад

Hybrid is simply totally crap.....

@dayoadeosun1520 Год назад

That is your opinion and it is not always true. Try toyota corolla 2.0L hybrid car.

@pigstain7531 Год назад

Full EV is the way to go either for the saving money or for the environment .. hybrid is shit 💩

@TheAllMightyGodofCod Год назад

We don't need radicalism, we need information. Hybrid, PHEV, BEV, Hydrogen or ICE it all depends on your budget and how you will use the car. That kind of radical, extremist think, "one size fits all" was what brought us to this bad situation in the first place.

@pigstain7531 Год назад

extreme weather, extreme FLOOD, extrme DROUGHT, extreme Death Due to Air Pollution, children illness due air pollution, OCEAN ACIDIFICATION, and extremely many fucking more ... Tail pipe emission is key. Everyone in every sector needs to change is key. Not being selfish also key. Being informed and not believing greenwashing is key. What is not key and not needed is not taking drastic change in a extreme situation ⛽🛑🔥