Plywood and epoxy diesel and water tanks on our 41' trawler yacht Part 2. Sea Dreamer Project Ep 47 

I agree I prefer working projects solo at my pace and totally respect this approach

You know, that just makes sense. I have watched some folks make hatch replacements and other projects from molds but didnt think about how it would work for tanks and even the cockpit well and so on. Thanks for the info.

I'll hold you too it! You'll help me dock right?

I would imagine it'd cost similar. I would do aluminum or stainless again, but the weight is a back breaker and at the end of the day I dont know welding, but do know glassing so for me, epoxy tanks are an easier option.

great thanks, love to see some pictures!

Barry Birkey: Good idea!

I mean, why not buy a yacht? ;) I think it's more for the experience and being able to build most everything from the ground up versus what is quick and economical.

got one on the shelf that will match the required dimensions and not result in lost bunkerage?

well mostly the tools and shop have been collected over 20 years. The lumber was all custom cut from local timbers, which fortunately are excellent boat building woods and we paid between .60 to $1.50 a board foot. All in including plywood we've spent around $4000 for all the lumber.

Dave Evans pleasure vessels can essentially do whatever they want construction wise. It’s only when you start using the boat for commercial purposes or paying passengers do mandatory regulations set in. Insurance is another story. However, you pay enough, someone will insure you.

Insurance is tough to get on a home built boat... I haven't found a company that will insure for actual value. If you have any tips I'd appreciate it. If I find a company I'll pass it on to you.

Add a ton of weight almost literally... I don't know if the bladders allow a lighter "box" than this method which would offset the bladder weight but suspect they would be much heavier and reduce capacity due to thickness of bladder and less than 100 percent fitting the space.

Google search " diesel duck " lots of examples out there cruising!

most insurance companies won't cover GRP over wood anyway, so...

@@lancer2204 State Farm covers my plywood epoxy boat. They didn't even ask what the fuel tank was made of.

I really don't have any skill with CAD. I just use a CAD viewer to see my plans, I don't know how to manipulate the design.

He can build the tank out of regular epoxy, however, the interior will need to be primed with a paintable liner such as BrewCoat.

Steeltree - homesteading with a twist yes

Six Points Wood Works I have a fiberglass chopper gun binks b8 I’ll sell it’s complete with pumps and all I have about three or four grand maybe more In replacement parts and consumables and the Manuel’s and break down sheets with introductions It will handle 2 ..55 gal drums of resin Esiegel000@gmail.com

It's your ass out there.. Wouldn't you want peer review?

as it is built in the US, it must pass a US Coast Guard inspection to receive a proper registration....

It's a recreational vessel so yes you can just build it and use it on the sea. You still have to get it registered but most states just care whether you've paid taxes on your materials.

I have met loads of mean people on the plane, they were just plain mean. (No hate meant)

2nd amendment is about bearing arms, not right to speak....that's the 1st Amendment...

I think you mean the 1st Amendment "Freedom Of Speech." The. 2nd Amendment is the "Right to keep and bear arms." No worries, I know what you meant.

Second Amendment?You know,there are life outside America too...

This is the kind of person Im happy to have move along from this channel. First of all, no one cares when a person un-subscribes and I don't understand the point of those who make that comment on any channel. Do they imagine the community or the creator will beg them to stay? Do they believe that the content provided, production values or opinions of the creator, which is being provided for free, will change because one person doesn't like this or that? It's the height of self absorbed narcissism. Secondly, this type of person is hearing or seeing what they want, despite whether it's the truth or not. No one, particularly me, said that "differing opinions" are prohibited. Additionally, I definitely never "commanded" everyone agree with "all" my points of view, you are making things up in your own head. I simply insisted that people be polite (to encourage intelligent debate) and factually correct (to limit disinformation that may discourage others from trying something challenging) , that's it. To come to any other conclusion indicates something, perhaps serious, is going on inside your brain. So Smitty2868, I'm glad to see you go. This channel definitely does not have room for the negativity and self involved, warped perception of a person like yourself. I think you need to re-evaluate exactly how you process relayed information. Hear the words and digest the literal meaning. Don't attempt to "read between the lines" or comprehend, in your opinion, "what they really mean", because sir, you are getting it all wrong.

Clearly you are missing the point. Go back and listen to what is being said. It's obvious to me, someone, or more, was being a jerk to Scott or others in the comment section. Very strange how you interpreted what you did.

@@SixPointsWoodWorks Eloquently written, I so desperately wanted to be mean to him.........lol

@@SixPointsWoodWorks - Hi Scott, I hope that you are not becoming jaded by all of the trolls, because there are many, but as an outside observer it seemed to me that @smitty2868 simply misunderstood what you were trying to convey in your closing message. That said he was very respectful in conveying how he felt, and it seemed like you may have lowered the boom a tad heavily on him. There are far too many "internet experts" and the anonymity of the internet emboldens them to speak from their nether regions. I feel that if you had clarified what you were trying to say you could have kept @smitty2868 as a subscriber. Don't let the trolls jade you, bud, there are more of us that are in awe of what you are doing than there are of them.

Same! I was cringing the whole time. Love the series, but that is dangerous. Any rotary cutting tool and gloves is a dangerous combination.

Dale Skidmore I was thinking that as well. Might last until she’s launched.

It had viable options... Fuel tank or firewood.. It chose wisely 😂😂😂

Dont take this in a bad way I'm very interested in this project and excited to see it to the end

@@Nicholas.m777 His epoxy tank will be fine for a long long time. Theres are many issues with all types of gas tanks, being a welder and a boat finnatic i can assure you theres no perfect solution (besides maybe a plastic tank) :). The fact of it is fiberglass gas tanks have been used and built since fiberglass boats have been around. I think they got bad rep from people who didn't do it right and cut corners in addition to inferior materials in the 60s and 70s. Polyester resin wasn't nearly as good as it is now, on top of that hardly anyone uses polyester resin because we now have vinylester resin which is far superior in every characteristic and still affordable and even better than but not as affordable is epoxy. On top of the resins now being light years ahead of where they were 50 years ago we also have much better fiberglass options. Polyester resin is very prone to osmosis while vinylester not so much much and epoxy even less or not permeable at all. That is why you see old boats with blistering and new boats without that issue. Most modern boats that are being produced today are built with vinylester resin. Now recycling and using old gas tanks is possibly, but finding one from and old vehicle wont work for a few reason. The biggest reason is capacity, My boat 24 foot power boat has a 130 gallon gas tank. Tell me what truck has a 130 gallon gas tank, and that's for a 24 foot boat. Most boat gas tanks are thicker walled than car tanks due to the abuse they see offshore. Car gas tanks are essentially painted stamped sheet metal. Often times you can find a used aluminum tanks from other boats at boat junkyards and have it cut down and welded to fit your dimensions you need. Many people do this but your run the risk of it being already pitted or slightly corroded. The issue you run with aluminum boat gas tanks is if there installed incorrectly (or even correctly) you will eventually get pin holes leaks in your gas tank. Water sits on the bottom of the tank which is created from condensation, or the outside of the tank sitting in water. Theres a huge discussion on how to mount aluminum tanks correctly as thoughts and theorys have changed drastically. Most manufacturers use to foam fill around the gas tank to hold it in place but now its looked down upon as it can lead to water being trapped against the aluminum surface speeding up the corrosion. I wont even get into stainless tanks and boat history but pretty much not many people use stainless for a couple of reasons but cost being the biggest factor. Being a welder, I would have guided him towards an aluminum or stainless tank, Even a mild steel tank coated in epoxy inside and out would be more than sufficient. For smaller tanks like a 150 gallon or less I would say just buy a plastic one. Plastic tanks are the beez knees for boats IMO. They dont rot, they're light weight, uniform, seamless construction, only real drawback is they permeate odors very very slightly. Plastic tanks also need to be supported and strapped correctly. There was some issues not too long ago of the plastic tanks breaking down into kind of a dust powder like substance inside the tanks over time but theres a reason why you use an inline filter regardless of what tank you have. I believe they have fixed this issue which was caused from ethanol based fuels. Also plastic tanks tend to swell so its not recommended you foam them in. Holes can be worn through them just like any other tank if not properly secured. Another benefit from buying a premade tank from a reputable tank maker is they are certified and pressure tested compliant. The real issue is finding a tank that fits his boat as most custom larger boats have custom built tanks......As you can see there is no superior or right choice, really comes down to what you like, can afford, and if you can buy the size you need.

What's the problem with wood epoxy? About 20 years ago I built a yacht entirely with ply / epoxy and had no issues.

I think it’s because he is a carpenter and he is most comfortable working with wood

Robert Carey absolutely

i'm wondering how he did the post-treatment of heating it to 120F for 4-6 hours.....