PM Lee Hsien Loong, Pritam Singh's exchange on 'free rider' voters 

I agree!

No he is incompetent

Definitely more suitable than one who stumble when giving a public speech, one who thinks cotton comes from sheep, and one who has a fetish for travel bubbles.

I St Brother bg brother boss Mr Tang totally agree if he can do a better job so let him be the next pm of singapore but he must prove to our people n others country he s worth for the jobs St Brother joachimtang bgbrother boss Mr Tang

Since a child his life is different than the rest. Always the son of the pm

Free rider is people like you who don’t want to work hard and expect government payouts.

Xcavor Green maybe he’s richer than you? It’s the internet u never know. And he has a radical view which does have element of truth within I.e. white horse in army. Not supporting pap in everything while giving credit when it is due is critical thinking and not assuming everyone that speaks up against certain policies are lazy ppl.

King Seiryu exactly my point. I know my comment doesn’t make any sense because I’m make assumptions. Likewise he is making assumptions.

charltonsz "without any merit"? Do you have any idea about how much he achieved and for Singapore? Do look it up. Also, the "free-rider" term was referring to the voting. You have taken it out of context.

Some of the commenters here who says that PM Lee is calling all oppisition voters are “free riders” clearly did not watch finish the whole clip or is clearly blinded. PM Lee clearly stated that ppl should vote for the party whom they believe that they can do a good job for them. Not jump on some “I need an opposition bandwagon and knowing that the PAP has done a decent job. That’s morally wrong and we should not promote such a mindset and culture.

*facepalm* Can someone help me explain to this PAP extremis what I mean. I merely took the phrase out to refer to another situation lol

97ohmygod i would want to but it’s not rly relevant to whatever you just said so you can just let this one slide into the “who cares” section

@@benjaminwee9815 It is called accepting the diversity of ideology of the other parties. You can't define what is wrong and what is right. There is no such thing as right or wrong in politics. Politics is only base on democracy for which thr system benefits the Country and it's people's interest at heart. Nothing more than an iron fist.

JT CCS HSK all came in via riding on coattails.

Its called arrogance, he doesn't think that voters have brains to think for themselves..

Insecurity, that's the word, and we all know the reason.

Mr LKY once said’ we will never let any opposition even get one leg in the door!’ Well some have and many didnt last. Lets see how Pritam singh does. Intelligent guy, fast thinking and calm. Too bad he got a little emotional here.

Great leaders are NEVER insecure

They are called opposition for a reason.

In 2016, Hillary Clinton won more votes, but Trump won the election.

Pinky: if u cannot beat me,join me n together we free ride sinkies

He is just trying to go straight to the point. He is decisive because in anyways, his teaching the people behind the back. Im pretty sure. Dont jus look at the surface. If u dont know anything why not rn jus side him. One day you can see the outcome. Dun fear jus continue to do our best!

Firstly, the GRC was introduced by a leader every Singaporean adore. Me LKY. Yet they criticise his policies. The irony... Second, give our majority Chinese population, without the GRC system do u believe that new MPs who are non-Chinese will be able to get elected? I certainly doubt so. Mr Singh would not have been here tdy.

@@benjaminwee9815 I am Chinese and have MORE faith in Pritam Singh and Tharman, both non-Chinese, than some of the Chinese candidates we have seen and MPs from the past till present. The younger generation sees less colour and want more substance.

@@benjaminwee9815 LKY worked hard and adored Singaporeans but he also criticizes them from time to time... What irony is there? Given our majority Chinese population, Aljunied GRC still elected a WP team with 3 minorities. One of the most, and some say the most popular PAP politician, Tharman, would probably face little to no problem with re-election. Does the GRC system need to have 5-6 man teams leading to the "free rider" claims some make against PAP newcomers? Honestly speaking, they can just return to having 3-4 person GRCs and put this to rest.

10-20 years ago when they enter in as fresh faces. Given ur Chinese roots who would u have voted? An Indian or Chinese? I believe u will be more incline to go with ur roots.

@@benjaminwee9815 If you read some of the books authored by LKY, you would think differently. Also if you think that every Singaporean worships LKY, I can make a guess that you're one of the old timers. If I'm wrong then you are brainwashed. The new generation questions what is being done to get the result rather than celebrate what is given to them, hence we are called "Free Riders".

Pritam is not a minister

we cannot stress our ministers too much and let them relax so they don't become angry and screw us over

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I I Should debate on salary cut for MPs n top civil servants.

a paper Brigadier General without zero war experience , only good in fixing opps parties , shame on you

@@abetterman1927 Definitely not like the father who had real political experience...

Agree, that's the point of parliament regardless of who we believe If not everybody get high pay and policies get written without scrutiny for what sia

This is nothing new in singapore lol 😂. It has been like that for years. The only time you must be surprised if malaysian parliment end up being like this 😂😂

Malaysian Parliments is the best

@Weilun Sheng yea very sad to hear that from mr singh he shud be hungry to rule,not jus grc must aim dream big

Look at Pritam. Now we understand why the RK saga He is not up to the grade

It ok to breed infections as long as there r not making babies.

This is her arrogant background per se. 😉

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What's the point my friends. Ppl of her constituency voted her and her colleagues in. So why cry wolf now. Congrats to the ppl of Jalan Besar. Woohoo!!!!

@@HarwinderSingh-yl2yp I should feel that they were voting for PAP most of the time. It's the brand name. Also, the opposition party at Jalan Besar was not very strong like the WP. Singaporeans won't vote blindly.

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If Dr.Chee has a Seat then It's much more effective

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This is wrong, we need to give PAP leaders all the trust and raise their salary more so they dont misuse their power

So long never have a OP to talk against him for so long, He sweated! LOL

Yo, they can't do that because of circulation of air. Covid can be transmitted thru air therefore the sweaty looks

You are as ignorant as it gets

Yes, for one person only.

So obvious like Abesan who obviously treat his health seriously than hold power, PM must take a overdue breather to resolve his glaring sweaty problem otherwise don a wind breaker to conceal his abnormality. Most shock'g that only PM not wear'g mask in Parliament. This is not his style of go'g against advice to protect himself and MPs in a room from rampant COVID 19.

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I think too much emphasis was placed on the "free-rider" term that PM mentioned. The "free-rider" term was simply DESCRIBING the voting process where a select few who voted against what they truly wanted. It can be detrimental to ANY party, be it PAP or WP. Those who are offended have probably taken it out of context.

@@shweig4325 Same can be said that in fact it's you who have taken it out of context what? Why is it that your claim that it's out of context is right? As a listener I observed that PM Lee quickly went to clarify and change his term of free rider after Pritam Singh called him out on it for using such a term on residents form Aljunied and Sengkang. So you see, there are two views to it.

You don't even know what PM meant.

@@Wilson24678 talking to me?

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Well said!

They have been identifying the problems for 10 years and yet most were solved using the BAN HAMMER without further questioning or pondering on alternatives. PAP's ability to identify a problem is something to be reckon with but their ability to solve something is literal braindead.

Not just report. What did the authority do to stop infection of Covid 19 at the dormitories of foreign workers or allowing imported cases from India into Singapore.

They have been solving many problems but apparently not solving the problems that you care about. What makes you so sure the opposition can solve more problems than the incumbent government without creating new problems?

@@xcavorgreen187you are not thinking. There are many many intelligent people in Singapore. A problem is a problem. Is not just reporting like Dengue fever. You must admit failure and call for new ideas to reduce the cases of dengue fever

Exactly what have they sacrificed if Pritam is really that brilliant?

They are not sacrificing they did everyone a favour including themselves

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@@christelsands3861 PAP is going to find some way to deny them resources they rightfully deserve.

@@catcatcat9055 Did you write a script to do this or are you doing it manually? LOL

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Like a swan swimming on the water, I am elegant and calm....but peddling frantically in the water

That was a sincere quote from Pritam. Only such people who does not give preference for power or money can be have interest of the people in the heart.

@@sharonelizabethchua7726 how do you?

Nasir Ibrahim know

@@nursu9073 huh know wat? Hahaha

I totally agree with u. Personally I have been reading a lot of comments and have realized there is an increasing number of Singaporeans supporting the opposition out of emotions instead of facts and rationality. As a young Singaporean, I get worried.

Because the ruling party has been putting artificial barriers to prevent a credible opposition to be build up. From now it still requires 30 yrs to build a strong opposition. PAP system is the real free rider.

@@remytangooo 作为一位年轻人 你有担心 必须要有作为 发声或者勸解 这是为你的以后你后代 不能像中国一批愤青 到处摇旗呐喊 到处惹人厌 有人担心但靜默 不出言制止或勸解 而有些偶尔偷着乐 哈哈 结果是人家惹不起 可躲得起 离开中国不跟你玩了 自已玩 中国可以 新加坡可以自已玩?

PM Lee is clearly not referring to them. He’s referring to all Singaporean’s in general

@@benjaminwee9815 l will take note come next Election.

Agreed. People only know how to bicker about the "free-rider" term that PM mentioned. The "free-rider" term was REFERRING TO the voting process (and applies to the select few who voted against what they truly wanted). It can be detrimental to ANY party, be it PAP or WP. Those who are offended has taken it out of context.

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Singapore will become india.goverment rich n citizen will poorer

2025...2025...

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All horses are by nature wild. They deserved to be trained to be Champions likewise Singaporean fresh graduates.

@@acheable much easier to breed show dogs in Singapore for a dog loving nation. Horses r for real men and show dogs r for real wimps

@@gha9543 Ya, all about horse power. Brave men/women should cry in secret..

@@acheable You can't train donkeys and psycho them to think that they are Race Horse pure breds

@@taytk8005 Never give up. Remember there is no bad soldiers only bad generals.

Not voting for WP or the opposition is not an unpatriotic thing to do. Voting for whom you want to be the government without succumbing to tempting talk by free-riders is the patriotic thing to do.

@@christelsands3861 how incredibly patronising.

Christel Sands well said

Voting in the first place is patriotism. Who we choose to vote for needs to be respected - dislike this whole shebang of insulting our votes in the first place....

@@da0kia Nobody is insulting your votes. WP makes it seems so by twisting PM's words. If you choose to be blind and manipulated, it does not mean others have to censor their speech to soothe your fragile feelings or suit your personal agenda.

You are wrong there are many evil forces out there, so we need to just trust the incumbent and just pray for the best!

To be honest, yes Some of the Singaporean’s do not hold a good judgement. They vote knowing that the PAP is doing a decent job. However, they jumped on the bandwagon of wanting an opposition. I firmly and fairly believe that people should vote for the party they think will do the best job. Give credit when it’s due. Be fair. Should everyone have that mindset of being a free rider, that’s morally wrong. And Mr Singh should not advocate that.

@@benjaminwee9815 PAP is already advocating the free rider mindset with the GRC system.

@@benjaminwee9815 I believe that the voters you are concerned with only did so out of frustration with the GRC system, and the PAP's government bias against elected opposition members. Not their judgement at fault. I wouldn't blame them for what they did as they were driven by frustration against an unfair system.

I think too much emphasis was placed on the "free-rider" term that PM mentioned. The "free-rider" term was simply DESCRIBING the voting process where a select few who voted against what they truly wanted. It can be detrimental to ANY party, be it PAP or WP. Those who are offended has taken it out of context.

PM's definition of free-rider is not what u understand that term to mean simplistically. nothing wrong with voting opposition. PM is calling out those who vote for opposition BUT who actually want a PAP MP running the show in their constituency. Now THAT is a free rider because this person is free riding on OTHERS' genuine voting. It means this person casted a false vote and that also is PM's narrow definition of "immoral" in this sense, when you vote against what you believe in. If enough people adopt this mindset then one fine day you might just win the wrong lottery.

@@ChristopherYongI think very small minority are free rider, less than 1% whereas the PAP system winning 90% of seats with 60% of votes is more worrying free rider. They have been artificially stifling the opposition from being built up.

@@markfish1113 agree with your point. that’s a valid criticism of the pap system. not sure about your 1% tho lol who can know how many?

Sounds awfully similar to the CCP now doesn't it?

Did u watch finish the whole video? Lol

Sad lah. CSJ can wait until next election. TCB no time liao.

This is only made possible because the people reject them

TCB was so close though

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@@MasterChiefSpartan u

Yes, if u watch the whole video, u will understand that PM Lee clarified that it’s people who wants PAP has the gov, but got brainwashed into the “I need an opposition gov” bandwagon. That’s morally wrong to be fair and Mr Singh should not promote such a culture. People should not vote opposition cos there is a need to have one. If the opposition is not of quality, do we still vote them in? Cannot be right. We should encourage ppl to vote for the party that they deep down BELIEVE will best serve their needs and PM Lee has clearly clarified that. Mr Singh should prove his party capability by sharing new ideas instead of brainwashing people of needing an opposition. Get the votes based on true capability, isn’t that the best for Singapore?

@@benjaminwee9815 yes, fully agree. PAP and their new MPs indeed very disappointing. WP and their 10 MPs are significantly better in this 3 days alone.

More educated but less aware of the world around them unlike the 60s and 70s generation. Because if them Singapore is standing up with the modern world. If education cant open your mind then no good la

If these companies leave Singapore then our educated lot where to go? no job no livelihood

@@benjaminwee9815 We had voted for PAP all these years and based on the latest elections, still voting for it. The Singapore populace, however, is more educated and politically more mature. I daresay ALL Singaporeans want what's best for Singapore. And based on PAP's performance in the past years, some have realised that PAP is not attracting the top talents. Worse, they seem to come from the same mould. The Opposition parties, however, have managed to attract high calibre and interesting members like Pritam Singh, Jamus, Paul Tambyah, etc. They are Singaporeans who are willing to step up for the country. They cld easily just be 'freeriders". So, gotta give such courageous Singaporeans a chance to contribute to the country. The ruling party shld try to be thankful for more brain power to strategise for the future of Singapore. In 2025, voters will vote out the inferior candidates. In the meantime, let's just all work together to tackle the challenges at hand rather than still harping on voting for the opposition.

So many interpretations of free riding and people taking things out of context, I think he only meant one particular scenario that he do not wish is the case, people jumping to the defence of sad Pritam who cannot even defend himself?

​@@logicrule PM of Singapore cant clarify himself if this is something that people will take out of context ? Need people like you to jump to his defence also ? It was clear as sky what he meant, you are the one who are taking things out of context. Plus, no one is defending Pritam - they are commenting on what PM Lee said about "free riders". It would have been the same reaction even if the person on the other side was not Pritam but a PAP MP. It would have been the same if Pritam didnt choose to reply or comment to PM Lee's speech. There could have been no one who bothered to reply to PM Lee's speech but you will still have gotten the same reaction on this "free rider".

@@kakaboo lol the one who got triggered in the video was clearly pritam who took everything out of context, and hence his sheeps started whinging everywhere. "You calling me free rider? U siao ah"... dont need to defend pm lee, he already did it, just reinterating to people who cannot listen, sounds like someone is triggered here too

@@logicrule do you actually know what PM Lee was referring to when he said "free rider"?

@@logicrule let me explain to you, how calling WP "free riders" is backfiring on the PAP. But before that, I have to explain to you the correct definition of a free rider. A free rider problem arises when a user taking advantage of a public good available for everyone to consume. Here is why LHL is wrong. It is not right to say PAP is a public good that WP is leveraging on to appeal to the voters. By saying that, they themselves are also free riders in opposition wards. Their campaign in Aljunied GRC was "Bring Us Home". Ownself shoot ownself. PS's campaign was to deny PAP of a blank check. That should be how a democracy works. Calling WP free riders is like the chicken rice store uncle calling the drink store uncle beside him a "free rider" cuz his chicken rice got MSG and make the people thirsty and hence the drink store uncle profit from chicken rice uncle. Tio bo? Correct wording coming out of PM Lee's mouth should be: WP complements the PAP in a true democracy. By using the sharp language, PM Lee is the butthurt one here. Throughout the whole debate, if you have a good eye, you could see that PM Lee was using very sharp and negative language on PS, while PS was being very neutral.

I think too much emphasis was placed on the "free-rider" term that PM mentioned. The "free-rider" term was simply DESCRIBING the voting process where a select few who voted against what they truly wanted. It can be detrimental to ANY party, be it PAP or WP. Those who are offended has taken it out of context.

Shwei G Who will vote against their will?

Awesome. Parachuted IN then can clasify FREE RIDERS!!!!

In the US we call them free loaders. Lol

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I don't know what PAP supporters expected when they voted for them, and its just after elections, people will only dig until 2 years ago, won't dig past 2 years so the next election they are safe.

Listen again: he called the opposition free rider and not the voters

@@xcavorgreen187 ur the one who should read or listen again Mr Lee said in his speech that the WP had campaigned on this platform, before citing an anecdote told to him by Senior Minister Teo Chee Hean, who said a resident was “perturbed” because her friends told her it was fine to vote for the opposition because the "the Government would still be in charge". “If you say vote against the Government because somebody else will look after getting the PAP Government and you just become a free rider, and you vote opposition, no harm, the PAP will still be there, then I think the system must fail," Mr Lee said in his speech. "Her friends" are definitely no opposition and normal voters. He said the WP used this as a campaigning tool, true, but definitely the free riders were referring to the voters and not the opposition.

@@kakaboo Jamus lim said on national debate that "PAP will win again the election anyways, blar blar blar, "

​@@logicrule real example of a free rider is PAP candidate Ivan. Also a president who did not need to have to be elected.

The "free-rider" term PM used was explicitly referring to the voting process. You probably have taken it out of context.

LHL has proven himself to be a very capable leader in the world stage and in Singapore. and it's not fair to keep going back to who his father is. He has made his own mark. Only the biased cannot see.

@@shweig4325 ya but I'm not referencing what he said, I'm just putting a face to the term free rider.

Pritam is a good orator and seems to have a great leadership attributes. But he also needs a great team around him, that's currently lacking.

She indian

There is no East Coast Plan. You were fooled.

I have better things to do rather than wasting time waiting for the news of that East Coast Plan

only east coast pple will know

😂😂😂 wait long long.......

My fren frm east coast says so far nvr hear anything abt the east coast plan

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niehiuh siao did you even watch the whole video?

How are we free riders when we are still paying for GST, taxes for giving MPs salary. etc.

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we have even done NS for the govt as required, how is this free riding :(

@@A567Pro :((

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He will get his wish come true in the next GE.

The blaming game goes on ...

@@lcfarn .Law of Gravity ..wat goes up will come down

He read the future LOL

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It is better for PAP to forget. Then more GRC fall to opposition. Good for Singapore.

MasterChief 117 Opposition has just beaten PAP at their own game, the GRC. Sore loser.

Maureen Kam are you calling the PAP sore losers ? If so, I am inclined to agree with you.

MasterChief 117 I can’t see why they must make a ruckus when they still win the majority seat.

Benedict C Who’s calling the tax payers free riders? I thought It should be the other way round if someone who extremely highly paid under perform?