POCONO MANOR PA. MAJOR HOTEL FIRE 11/1/19 HIGH WINDS FAN A MASSIVE FIRE 

Yes they are. My son was there. He is a volunteer

The units from Tobyhanna Army Depot may be professional possibly.

@@timothybarney7257 You are prob right about that, but most were Volunteer departments. You do not find many paid departments in rural pa.

@@catlycardugganriley7857 I'm from PA originally (Central PA/Blair County), so I know how that goes. Living in the mid-Hudson Valley of New York now (Ulster) and outside of the couple of cities in the area, everything is volunteer here as well.

@@timothybarney7257 Well then you know how it goes. Lol

Any place that big should have an on site water supply...

@@ffjsb should, could, would, but it didn't. Many places like this is rural areas are not going to have that luxury. Even if it were written into the codes 50 years ago what burned was built in 1902, so it would be grandfathered in anyways.

@@alexismspgaming8260 I know that, but a good rural dept. would encourage preventive measures like installing a pond or storage tanks. The offset in insurance costs can offset the cost of installing something like that a great deal. And many times if you remodel a building, you have to do it to the new code.

Mike Alecksynas thanks glad you thought that about us

@@ffjsb Im from the uk first time iv seen this vid ect ....im Impressed by the water tanker shuttle they had going ...Also looking at google maps there was a pool they could of used (but would have run dry quick) ...and there is Lake Minausin near by but looking at google its down hil and a bit far away ..also its fed by a creek and i think it goes dry a lot as it was when looking on the maps ..was more like a very lush green bowl if it hadn't been labeled as a lake i would of thought it was a pasture / clearing! ..OBV Local folks who have commented on here will know better than me im JUST guessing at that ;) BIG thumbs up though to all the Voulnteer Fire depts involved in this! ..here in the uk we dont have those and the more the gov make cuts to the fire service here and leave Large areas cover by just 1 or 2 stations so rural villages and some towns that had their own fire dept now depend on response from the city or nearby towns that still have a Dept ..we should have volunteer dept like the U.S!

Just a practice for when it really counts.

How does that work in the winter when it's twenty degrees below freezing?

@@mikeymcmikeface5599 You adapt and over come. Just don't have fare weather fires. Although, there IS fare weather firemen!

Ed Hauenstein thanks

I loved that hotel too I went before that’s ashamed that it burned down

Great fireground operations, but there wasn't any exposures, what didn't burn the excavators knocked down!🤔

@@markwillcox720 There was a concrete (supposedly "fire-proof") multi-story building / extension either directly connected to or very closely situated to the fire building. I know concrete normally does not burn, but the interior contents do. And it appeared to have windows which had broken out exposing the interior contents to possible extension either by direct exposure of radiant heat.

There was a fire wall. The extension from the main lodge to the west wing, where the excavator was tearing WAS the fire wall. They waited to try to tear it down until after the fire had already spread over there. They were advised to do that tearing between the fire wall hours before they actually did.

It was scheduled to close in 3 weeks for a 2 year remodel. It was built in 1902. The furnishings looked dated.

@@josephsize634 Timing

Paul LaDuke...and, dare I suggest...SPRINKLERS?

Destroying evidence.

@@driftinggator47 There's a reason why they demolished it. It's mostly because it reduces the risk of debris falling and hurting people. They also did it to make an attempt to save some of structure which it didn't survive.

Actually not rare at all... I've been on dozens maybe even hundreds of fire scenes where they've brought in equipment to knock parts down to gain access to the seat of the fire or make a "trench cut" to head off the fire.

my department does it all the time, if its an area that's a total loss its very helpful with overhaul

latham area , when the church I worked for burned last year, the FD started knocking down wall due to safety issues while it was still burning. Needless to say, I salvaged nothing from my office.

Not really, owner has other property's around the area. It might be harder for the employees who took up residence there.

Finally, someone that makes sense!

Sonic 7 Amen to that.😎👍🛠💎✝️🇺🇸🇷🇺

was that not a stretcher at 5:50?

@@markm-ci6rj looked like equipment and trama equipment only no body?

mark m yes but it's Empty. There is only medical Equipment on there.😎👍🛠💎✝️🇺🇸🇷🇺

@@jacobbeckley5292and ​ Mark Willcox : OK, thanks looked like a fireman on my small screen.

Orioles Fan kitchen fire went wrong

So should we simply close down every historic place because they are tinderboxes? There goes the Smithsonian - man that place is old, how about the Metropolitan Museum of Art? There are so many wonderful historic places and buildings it is very sad to see this one go.

Monica Favia...you’re missing the point. I never said every historic combustible building should be closed and torn down. I’m saying that buildings that offer overnight sleeping accommodations need to be held to a high standard of safety in order to prevent a recurrence of the many deadly hotel fires that have occurred in the US and worldwide. You cited the Smithsonian and the Metropolitan Museum of Art as examples of non-fire-safe buildings. These buildings don’t offer sleeping accommodations. Historically significant buildings can and should be preserved, and they can be made reasonably fire safe with some modifications. When I go to bed in a hotel room, I want to feel secure that the management has taken all reasonable measures to prevent fire.

@@zyglo9826 I understand what your saying! ..BUT im from the U.K and the premier in near me a national chain of mid budget hotels that was modern burnt to the ground in 2019 ...(no one was hurt thank god) but it went from this .....ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jL07U54NeUQ.html to this ...ru-vid.com5b_UR8JttWo ..So witnessing that i will no longer stay in a premier inn or travel lodge ( saw one of those being constructed near me and it was all wood framing and isulastion on the inside with just cladding and a few sections of bricks on the outside! ....give me a hotel that is solidly built with interior brick dividing walls ect any time!

Massively strong winds from a storm that spawned tornadoes just east of this in New Jersey probably pushed the fire along.

Old wood frame construction, lots of void areas probably with newer construction covering up areas and no hydrants!( it's amazing what large diameter hose does on the fire grounds!) Hurray for 5" supply hose #LDH

Yes and Directed Energy Weapons with fire that can not be put out my water. They got there in plenty of time.

@@evangelistbrianbaker Drink!

@@josephastier7421 I have been studying these fires for over 1 and 1/2 years now and how they usually don't burn trees and leaves and front lawns, but level houses and burn cars and steel appliances. I can share with you many pics if you want.

Oldest part built in 1902. What year was the San Fran fire again?

Yes, there are several fire hydrants on site, and yes, they were being used. Yes, there was a comprehensive fire suppression system (albeit, very old). The fire was in the walls and ceilings, where it was inaccessible to preventative measures.

The oldest portion of the resort was from 1902. There have been pushes to mandate automatic suppression systems in older buildings, but the sheer cost for such a rarely used system makes many owners opposed to it. Accidental discharges can cause major water damage. As well, this resort is on top of a hill in a very rural township. The water system they have couldn’t possibly support the demands for this fire, both in volume and in pressure. We had a warehouse fire in a fully hydranted area, lots of pressure, but four engines and six quints drained the system. The ENTIRE system. The rep from the water company came to the scene demanding we shut down, he was out of water. The plant can only make 8000 gpm. We were pushing 10,000. Anyways, they do have a pool, but that water would quickly be drained. The nearest lake is 4 km away. Even in cases where there are hydrants, with high fire load and fire spread like this, frequently tankers have to be brought in to supplement what water you are getting from hydrants. The entire township department has two engines, a tanker, a truck, and three brush trucks. That brings 4,850 gallons of water. Five minutes, maybe? And they’re ten, twenty minutes away. Not counting mutual aid, but I don’t know their card off-hand. There are obvious downsides to building giant old wooden buildings on a mountain in the middle of nowhere.

The only thing on the national news these days is about Trump. You would think they could take 5 minutes to give us other news too!

JuniorFan08 we had companies coming in from New Jersey too

I think the upper floors fell into the unburned first floor giving the fire plenty of new fuel, and O2.

David Rudmin reported kitchen fire, also electrical, rubber smell in wall. Shotty electrical work? A contractor burned down a building on our side of the state the same way.

@@jaysmith1408 - I'd be more likely to believe the legitimacy of an electrical fire than a kitchen fire but that still doesn't rule out foul play, e.g. with intent of receiving an under-the-table kickback..

Jewish Lighting! It's amazing where it can strike! 🤔👨‍🚒👍

Wonder if they were having financial issues

Had a meeting there once about 20 years ago. Needed work then.

The point of the heavy equipment was to sift through the rubble when it was all on the ground to get to hot spots and more fire, because there was so much of the rubble. And that still didn’t quite do it because the next day when it was finally put out there were 2 more separate calls for 2 separate rekindles. Since the machines were already there, they might as well have used them to help knock down what was going to collapse anyway

You going to fire volunteers?

Paul Smallriver he meant the contractors, or the kitchen staff, depending on the report you hear.

The Alpine Slide at Action Park? One of the country's very first urgent care centers opened up at the bottom of the road to Action Park and it was well needed. Too bad it took dozens and dozens of serious injuries and a number of deaths before action was taken to close the park down..

@@tommyd1542 yup was fun until I got a little Road Rash 😆

JDS Weather First, Brewer, Maine News & Events I stayed there to for a nascar race. And I’m also from Midcoast Maine

@@atlanticocean640 cool I'm in Brewer, Maine

JDS Weather First, Brewer, Maine News & Events I’m in Boothbay area

I understand that the fire started in the kitchen.

@@WWIIREBEL False. The smell of burning rubber in the wall/ceiling of one of the restaurants (a wall shared between the restaurant's dining area, the front lobby, and the former reservations/new security office) was reported by kitchen staff. This was in a location, where the day prior, lots of wires were being spliced and hung from the ceiling for new security cameras. With the ansul system and low ventilation, a kitchen fire could never grow to this degree. Also keep in mind that the kitchen itself was one of the last parts of the building to burn.

You take an ignition source,,add fuel like wood or something combustible,,and oxygen.Poof you have a fire.Couldn't help myself with goofy statements.

Thanks ww2 rebel

Scott Jenkins then somebody will be in trouble.

Timothy Todd yeah nah every part was touched

24 hrs

Jack Johnson thanks

Oldest portion was 1902.

HUH, Imagine that? Sprinklers? Probably would have saved the structure!

It was built in the early 1900’s so it would not have been code and did you notice the water tankers shuttling. It’s possible this place was on well water, which means no sprinklers!

@@mattmoschkau2831 You can definitely install a sprinkler system with a well. Would need a water tank and a fire pump. Would be a lot cheaper than this fire.

Gregory W You really think trying to install a sprinkler system in a building that has original 1908 construction would be cheaper than this fire??? It was scheduled for a major renovation starting early next year. This fire is literally just cheap demo work. There is a reason investment companies stay away from older structures, it’s rarely a cheap option. These old buildings are literally piles of fuel. If safety is your concern and you want newer and more strict code enforced it’s cheaper to drop these buildings and start over. But when the historical and sentimental value outweigh safety, disasters happen.

Geocaching with Ugotafriendinpa...agreed. A hotel building of combustible construction, accommodating paying guests, without sprinklers, is a recipe for disaster.

Well, apparently they still meet code. Two hotels being built right down the hill from my office, both 4 story wood framed structures. I know of several others in the area built in the last 10 years that are also wood frame multi (typically 4) story structures. Most of them are Hilton and Marriot properties.

Did you read how old it was?

Lappi Lappland Not necessarily. Highly likely, but depends on tactics. If you nip in right in the bud when it starts, you can keep it to a room, or at worst, a wing. When it runs the walls and gets out to the wind, you’re screwed. Given the place doesn’t have its own fire brigade, outside of bulldozing it, you’re not stopping it. We had a residential garage structure fire (likely started by a Tesla) where it was wind fueled. The home location is not fond of actually calling for help, so backup was 45 minutes delayed on dispatch, add response time. Anyways, only way to stop the extension to the house, was a public works employee driving a bulldozer straight through it. Apparently they did that here, albeit with an obvious delay of procuring gigantic backhoes in the middle of nowhere.

Ginny Bandiera the thumbs up is for the person who took the time to video this so we can see how bad fires are and see firefighters do an amazing, hard, heroic job. Thumbs up for firefighters too. 👍

Doreen Blatz not the point.

Ginny Bandiera what do you mean not the point? Is English your first language?

You are giving it to the video, not the disaster. Was the video well done or badly done? If you watched it all, it interested you. So give it a thumbs up.

The EPA

Jose I feel so bad for you. I hope you can find work soon again. It is not easy though working 7 years then to loose it all in seconds. I will pray for you and all those affected.

Charles Tigrett None did 100+ years ago.

Loanne S. Lindley no it was a manor resort

@@judecaporusso8599 Oh okay.

Shawn Futch Tell us why it was racist.

@Daniel Pearson ha too bad can't find another African who worked there under chef Larry in the ninety's WHY CAUSE IM THE ONLY ONE LOL

Here goes the politics again.

thanks didnt know that

thats what insurance is for.

I would imagine that the sprinkler system would have been done in the renovations.

the description does say "The protected wood frame structure featured hidden voids which helped spread the fire. 11/1/19.", so it sure sounds like it did have a system. Even new sprinkled apartment buildings can burn to the ground, just look at the Elmwood Park, NJ apartment building fire a few years ago.

Where do you people keep getting this idea that there was no fire suppression system? There was. It wasn't enough.

Probably. Apparently they were about to close for renovations.

I would imagine they called for the excavator due to the intensity of this fire. The unsafe conditions and imminent collapse would not allow for crews to operate an interior attack. A structure that size the only option at that point is dig and expose the fire. Your fire investigation skills and operations are lacking.

Cherry odd, indeed.

Built 117 years ago. I'd wager a guess and say the builder has been dead for quite some time. But I'm no expert.....

Ethan McDowell 80 years and a month

@@ethanmcdowell9677 Most of what you could see burning was not older building, No sprinkler system in there?

It was 100 years old.

You gonna go dig him up?

Aluminium burns, partly why the UK's Royal navy lost so many ships in 1982. That cladding will either be asbestos as you stated or something else. According to the website at least some of it is brick so may cladding over the original brickwork?

Or Hardie plank, which is based on concrete. Makes it heavy if the walls be hind it weaken in a fire. Especially good where termites are a problem.

They probably weren't required by code during construction, but if the rebuild (and I doubt they will) they will be required and the expense versus the loss of a fire is pennies!

There were sprinkliers in the mall here that was 60% destroyed. These are engineered fires which water can't put out. Same as in Cali

Consider the age of the bldg

Is English your first language?

Try to type without a blindfold next time. :-)

_ did you have to comment I was typing fast you felt the need to say something?

Taunter Atwill try not to get involved in something you don’t have to next time I will change it so you won’t be so unhappy bye

@@judecaporusso8599 Hurt that much? :-)))

I doubt that it was losing money. They were going to shut down for two years for renovations.

@@davidh807 Maybe so, but I'm always suspicious when these things happen to places that have been around so long.

@@1940limited as you wish

matthew dempsey those don’t exist for us

@@judecaporusso8599 ok

PA isn’t CA

They said that it started in the kitchen. Kitchens are always more susceptible to fires.

@@davidh807 I'm not buying it.