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Podcast Review: The Zone of Interest 

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On this episode, JD and Brendan discuss Jonathan Glazer's haunting new film THE ZONE OF INTEREST!
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@carlycarlucci1301
@carlycarlucci1301 4 месяца назад
One very brief moment that struck me toward the beginning (since u mention animals) is how their pet dog starts barking right by the wall as a reaction to the cacophony of evil-assisting dogs we hear on the other side of the wall; the pet is the only family member who doesn’t have this psychological denial of the wall cuz he just reacts the way dogs tend to do once another gets barking. The energy kinda transfers contagiously. It was so fleeting in the film, I like that we can pick & choose which parts dig under our skin w/o the heavy-handed spoon-feeding. The other part was the lead actor or another guy running the camp shown atop his just barely visible horse yelling down at the prisoners as we hear the loudest screams of the movie & how the camera doesn’t move down even an inch. Zone really felt like a genre subversion as much as it was an atypical POV adding a new & interesting way to treat the subject without any trappings of the countless other holocaust movies we’ve all seen at least 5-7 of.
@Insessionfilm
@Insessionfilm 4 месяца назад
Yeah that's a very astute observation. It's a big reason why it's an astounding directorial achievement. If not for Nolan, it would easily be my pick for Best Director (and still wouldn't blame anyone that chose it anyway).
@trao1938
@trao1938 4 месяца назад
The baby is always crying, too.
@belindahoare3748
@belindahoare3748 4 месяца назад
I don't think there would be a problem if this film DID give Rudolph empathy. Glazer's whole point is to illustrate how ordinary people have become monsters. If they were inaccessible as stereotypical tyrants, they'd be unrelatable to us, and we'd never consider how easy it is for ordinary people to go through a metamorphosis and become capable of what they did.
@Insessionfilm
@Insessionfilm 4 месяца назад
Yeah that’s a great point. I don’t know if the film gives him empathy, but either way, you’re absolutely right that he still has a humanity we recognize when it comes to his own family. Which is obviously vital for the reason you mentioned. Couldn’t of said it any better.
@yahyajean
@yahyajean Месяц назад
Or May be "how monsters have become ordinary people, or have tried hard to do so. They all knew that home and lifestyle was just an artificial paradise. You need to plant a lot of rosemary, parsley and roses to get ride of the smell of crematorium
@Mpr47276
@Mpr47276 Месяц назад
You guys missed the specific context of Hedwig’s “burn you to ashes” comment to the servant girl. That scene happens in the immediate realization that her mother has departed unannounced and perhaps critically in the letter left. Wedwig is angry and hurting and consequently lashes out and projects anger on her servant.
@deerheart87
@deerheart87 2 месяца назад
It was an incredible piece of work
@yahyajean
@yahyajean 4 месяца назад
Thank you for your great review. The "dark scenes" with the girl hiding apples around for the prisoners is actually about a young Polish girl who had a connection with the Polish underground and indeed took big risks to do small but significant things, which is in total contrast with the Hoss family. Glazer said: “That small act of resistance, the simple, almost holy act of leaving food, is crucial because it is the one point of light. I really thought I couldn’t make the film at that point. I kept ringing my producer, Jim, and saying: ‘I’m getting out. I can’t do this. It’s just too dark.’ It felt impossible to just show the utter darkness, so I was looking for the light somewhere and I found it in her. She is the force for good." I do not think Hedwig's mother was totally aware when she arrived at the house that the camp was actually an extermination camp. She talked about the Jewish woman she knew before the war like she was on the other side, as a prisoner, probably not aware that the lady was probably already dead. That would explain why later on she had to leave the house and just left a note for her daughter. The mom (like the dog) seemed confused by the background sounds while visiting the garden (we see her face literally turning like trying to catch a sound). She is also so focused on the wall, while Hedwig explains to her about the plants. The dog also seems totally confused and had few interactions with the actors. He is just walking around (he is also so much in contrast with the light or even white clothing of the people in the house, that it is hard to don't follow him). Dogs have a much more sensitive hearing than humans, and I think it was on purpose to show him that way because he was probably the only creature constantly aware of the horror from the other side of the wall. He is a direct link from the other side, and he may represent the conscience of the Hoss family that they always ignore or reject (in one scene is totally clear that Hedwig rejects the dog's attempt to be close to her and even closes the door between them). SO much to say about all the visual details in this movie that are full of symbols.
@Insessionfilm
@Insessionfilm 4 месяца назад
Thank you! And yeah that contrast is remarkable. I didn't articulate it as well as I would have liked, but that juxtaposition is what's so enthralling about Glazer's use of thermal vision and how it gives weight to what's at stake. Great point about the dog too. That moment where she closes the door on him, even though it's early in the film, is great foreshadowing to her cold heartlessness. Appreciate the comment, great stuff!
@yahyajean
@yahyajean 4 месяца назад
We also see Hoss close to the end interfering with a woman in the park and her dog. He said that the dog reminded him of his childhood, and that was a safe memory for him when he was living in the age of innocence, if I may say. No mention of his camp's dog to the lady at all. He also pets the dog with affection, something we do not see in his house with the black dog. He reads also his children bedtime stories, including “Hansel and Gretel,” in which the big bad witch is incinerated while we see the polish girl in the dark hiding food around and the crematorium burning in the background. @@Insessionfilm
@Insessionfilm
@Insessionfilm 4 месяца назад
@@yahyajean yeah that was one of the biggest points I hit on in the conversation because it's striking how much empathy he shows to his children and animals. Which weirdly gives us (as the audience) some way in to his humanity and I think gives weight to the film's ideas on how brazenly evil he's become. That moment he has with his horse in the barn is kind of endearing, in a vacuum. But all of that stuff demonstrates how his humanity is in a very small bubble. Haunting work.
@yahyajean
@yahyajean 4 месяца назад
Yes indeed... what a great movie... How were you able to see it privately?@@Insessionfilm
@Insessionfilm
@Insessionfilm 4 месяца назад
@@yahyajean press screening
@jaygatz4335
@jaygatz4335 5 месяцев назад
Wonderful discussion of this brilliant film. Amidst all the banality, I appreciated how Glazer exposed the few well-timed cracks in the family's (dis)utopian environment. The strongest was the grandmother's response and sudden departure, and Hedwig's instant dismissal of the note that was left. Re the thermal vision footage: the actions depicted in those scenes were heroic and coming from a place of empathy. However, they were the complete antithesis of Rudolf and Hedwig's world view and thus were visually presented in a jarring manner - outside the comfort zone that Rudolf and family, as well as the film audience, have been lulled into. Also, in addition to the horse representing a position of power for Rudolf, I think this non-human creature, incapable of cruelty and destruction, gave Rudolf a chance to relate to another being without compromise or rationalization. He could tap into a source of innocence and purity unavailable to him in society due to a conscience denied.
@Insessionfilm
@Insessionfilm 5 месяцев назад
Thank you! Yeah I agree, the grandmother scene is a pivotal moment in the film. When we did scenes of the year (Ep566) it was a heavy contender for me. Also agree about the thermal footage. Probably could have articulated it better on the show, but yeah it's a sudden injection of empathy and there's some about it for me that heightens the stakes by watching it through the lens of thermal vision. Great point too, re: Rudolf. Thanks for listening/watching!
@christopherclark5604
@christopherclark5604 2 месяца назад
Just watched last week. Disturbing movie. Still thinking about it all and how it made me feel.
@trao1938
@trao1938 4 месяца назад
Both Rudolf and Hedwig face different crises of conscience during the film, on their own terms.
@deerheart87
@deerheart87 2 месяца назад
When did Hedwig ? I didn't see her have a crisis at all .
@trao1938
@trao1938 2 месяца назад
@@deerheart87 When Hedwig reads the letter left by her mother. We can safely assume the Mother's letter expressed disapproval over the conditions she personally witnessed and experienced. The fact that she fled without telling anyone or facing her daughter suggests the Mother feared her own safety. During this time, any criticisms spoken against The Third Reich were regarded as treasonous, so therefore Mother decided to be on a train back home before her truth-bombs were read. . The Mother's approval was very important to Hedwig, who wanted nothing more than to impress the woman with her newfound status and good fortune. So reading that letter forced Hedwig to face a crisis of contradictory ethics and beliefs. Although we don't know what was specifally stated in the letter, we can observe a coldness in Hedwig's face that lacked sympathy and compassion. This could've been a pivotal moment for Hedwig, a wake-up call from the Mother that loves her to re-examine her current situation. But Hedwig completely dismisses the letter, and her relationship with the Mother, instead. In an eerily symbolic gesture, Hedwig resolves her crisis of conscience by stoically feeding the Mother's letter into the furnace. She sppears more determined than ever to continue on her path of wickedness, and proves so by viciously threatening the maid's life. it could also be argued that Hedwig immediately burned the letter to protect her mother. There's no telling what dangers the Mother might have been subject to, were that letter to get into the wrong hands. We are also never made aware of how Hedwig explained the Mother's mysterious disppearance to her husband and children. Perhaps she kept the specifics to herself in order to avoid any further aspersions, judgments or crises of conscience taking place in the home..
@is2959
@is2959 5 месяцев назад
Where did you guys watch it?
@Insessionfilm
@Insessionfilm 5 месяцев назад
We got a screener from the studio.
@michaelbrockman5742
@michaelbrockman5742 4 месяца назад
No, no, no on maybe renaming your podcast as The Zone of Interest! That should remain only in the domain of the deeply disturbing but brilliant film.
@Insessionfilm
@Insessionfilm 4 месяца назад
Haha yeah we were just kidding about that, we very much agree it should only remain with the film. Thanks for listening!
@davidmurciaaristizabal5381
@davidmurciaaristizabal5381 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for the talk... this film was deffinetly something else ... Sheer Horror.. out of view, out of zone
@Insessionfilm
@Insessionfilm 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for listening/watching David! And yeah, one of the most harrowing films of the year. No doubt.
@wolandisdead
@wolandisdead 4 месяца назад
Are you guys saying Horrowing? It’s harrowing….
@Insessionfilm
@Insessionfilm 4 месяца назад
Yes...
@wolandisdead
@wolandisdead 4 месяца назад
@@Insessionfilm lol, either way. I agree. The movie was extremely harrowing. I was particularly disturbed by the ever-present, mechanical churning and rumbling of the death machine that could always be heard. That plus the river scene… /shudders/
@Insessionfilm
@Insessionfilm 4 месяца назад
@@wolandisdead oh man, that river scene absolutely shakes you to the core. Wholeheartedly agree.
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