What the Holocaust teaches about evil and humanity (The Zone of Interest)

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Glen Scrivener reflects on the Oscar winning 2023 film 'The Zone of Interest', directed by Jonathan Glazer. What does this Holocaust film show us about humanity and the nature of evil?
Featuring clips from 'The Zone of Interest' (2023) and the following interviews:
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@tonibaggett2301 2 месяца назад

I feel and fear that history is repeating itself once again😢

@lancegoodthrust546 2 месяца назад

Wow, you read that off a bumper sticker?

@tonibaggett2301 2 месяца назад

@@lancegoodthrust546 no, is there such a bumper sticker. Our country and the world is in a lot of trouble. The handwriting is on the wall

@72OliveTree 2 месяца назад

No it’s not a bumper sticker! It’s the wall around a concentration camp you don’t want to hear or know about! It’s called Gaza. And the future will judge all of us…so whatever you’re doing now it’s what you would’ve done then. I guess for some it’s a bumper sticker. The director of this film himself referenced Gaza in his Oscar acceptance speech but some love to live in denial just like the commandant family on the other side of the fence!

@yvonnekneeshaw2784 2 месяца назад

@@ubir9743well said

@yvonnekneeshaw2784 2 месяца назад

This was up to date & excellent ❤ Esp part of what is humanity. That God gave man (not forced) ability to decide how their inner hearts sway is so amazing to me. Humans can choose. We are not all created to be up front people to make change but every contribution we can make towards showing others the love of Jesus … counts. 🇨🇦 ❤

@mikeydarev 2 месяца назад

I visited the Red terror museum in ethiopia. The crazy thing that hit me was how reponses to evil and injustice cam lead to greater and evil and more injustice. The reality hitting me now is how much we need to work against evil in our age. It is insipid and to often let by by good people not wanting to become obnoxious too goodies. We need to win influence through good lives lived in front of others and learn to speak the truth in love. May God help us to win many for him

@blondefisk 2 месяца назад

When watching Succession the 'Billionaire' conversation always comes up. 'Monsters' 'Evil', 'Eat the Rich', 'I would never feel sorry for someone with all the wealth and power'... I disagree, even when difficult. Especially when it those who deny others humanity. It is how you protect your mind, morals, soul. Today I watched a historian review Zone ( highly praised). He spoke about being cautious with the idiom 'Benigality of Evil' and deeming the Hoss family as Evil as renders humans into cartoons. It distances ourselves, we feel immune and superior. It struck me deep when he said (as accurate as i can) "this wasnt Evil, it was CALCULATED and LOGIC".... How much horrific, heartbreaking and terrifying is this understanding. How much more accountable and vigilant does it call on us to be. Thank you for your wonderful review. I need to find anyone to discuss this piece of art. (The DETAILS! - the lining in the coat needed mending as valuables would be sewn into the linings and it would have been torn open at 'Kanada').

@rafaeldonnelly3593 2 месяца назад

A deliberately grim film, but very good. The one vision of goodness, though, was the girl from the village who overnight collected apples and left them for the prisoners to eat. She is portrayed, I think, as an angel, as the light of the world in the darkness that is the zone. She is the figure of hope.

@SpeakLifeMedia 2 месяца назад

yes, that's true. It's complicating isn't it because sometimes humanity can act like 'angels' and sometimes like 'demons'. So what is humanity?

@mariom2424 7 дней назад

Humanty is both good and evil. Is always been like that. Since recorded HUMAN history. We today are no different thank past GENERATIONs. And all good and Bad have done atrocities against each other. No exception. And also in 1933 Jews in New York called for a boycot against Germany. And I have always ask.. Where we're all the Wealthy Jews At the time that they did not help Jews to get out of Germany. It was no secret that The Nationalist Socialist wanted Jews out of Germany. Something that has happened through HUMAN history.in other places. Where we're they ???

@rafaeldonnelly3593 5 дней назад

@@mariom2424 It took a mixed bag of individuals to save Jewish lives - Oskar Schindler, Nicholas Winton, and Chiune Sugihara. None of these saviours were Jews.

@Apriluser 2 месяца назад

Wonderful and thoughtful commentary. Thank you. Like you, I visited Auschwitz in the ‘70s and was irrevocably changed. Perfect film during Lent.

@ReligionOfSacrifice 2 месяца назад

Favorite World War II Movies 1) Amen (2002) #15 2) Life is Beautiful (1998) #25 3) Notorious (1946) #26 4) Schindler's List (1993) #27 5) Pan’s Labyrinth (2006) - Spanish with English caption #30 6) Midway (2019) #31 7) Come and See (1985) - Russian with English caption #38 8) The Sound of Music (1965) #69 9) The Wind Rises (2013) #100 10) Darkest Hour (2017) #104 11) Secrets of War [Oorlogsgeheimen] (2014) - Dutch with English subtitle #119 12) Dunkirk (2017) #162 13) Hacksaw Ridge (2016) #253 14) Saving Private Ryan (1998) #256 15) Grave of the Fireflies (1993) #321 16) The Zone of Interest (2023) is not on my top 360 favorite movies, but it was a fascinating look at people living their lives and raising their kids near the most famous death camp and concentration camp: the death camp called Bergen-Belsen & the general concentration camp of Auschwitz. You could believe the trailer that is is just about wanting the best for your kids. How do you like that spin? Listen to the director compare Jews living near Gaza Strip to Rudolf Höss while accepting awards for his movie and you wonder if his mother had her genitals burned by Palestinians while a corpse, his baby brother's head cut off, or his younger sister raped in the back seat of a car as Palestinians drive her to Gaza Strip for nights of fun (at least more than a month), if he'd change his mind. I think I must see "The Grey Zone" next.

@alexandrosalexandropoulos4836 2 месяца назад

Absolutely incredible analysis. Greetings from Athens, Greece.

@TheSaltydog07 2 месяца назад

Greetings from Georgia, USA. ❤

@andrewcolquhoun3478 2 месяца назад

Hoess repented before his execution and returned to the Catholic church. He said: "My conscience compels me to make the following declaration. In the solitude of my prison cell, I have come to the bitter recognition that I have sinned gravely against humanity. As Commandant of Auschwitz, I was responsible for carrying out part of the cruel plans of the 'Third Reich' for human destruction. In so doing I have inflicted terrible wounds on humanity. I caused unspeakable suffering for the Polish people in particular. I am to pay for this with my life. May the Lord God forgive one day what I have done. I ask the Polish people for forgiveness. In Polish prisons I experienced for the first time what human kindness is. Despite all that has happened I have experienced humane treatment which I could never have expected, and which has deeply shamed me. May the facts which are now coming out about the horrible crimes against humanity make the repetition of such cruel acts impossible for all time"

@rutherglenroad8109 2 месяца назад

Well written comments. It's interesting that it was kindness, not justifiable anger and cruelty that woke him to his sins/crimes. There will be fewer more humble people in heaven than Hoess, particularly when he meets those he sent ahead prematurely.

@allanhutton1123 2 месяца назад

Sadly his wish failed shortly afterward with crimes against different people that paled in some comparisons to his crime. From Cambodia to China to Africa to south America man's evil has only been creative in new forms of evil

@floraposteschild4184 2 месяца назад

Hoess makes no mention of Jews, not even the 430,000 from Hungary he processed in less than two months. Weak.

@dinkster1729 2 месяца назад

@@floraposteschild4184He's probably sucking up to the Poles who hold him captive and will hang him in that passage. He doesn't need to think of the Polish Jews or theHungarian Jews or mention them. He would definitely have made a distinction between the Jews and the Poles, I think.

@ReligionOfSacrifice 2 месяца назад

@@floraposteschild4184 What is the lesson of the holocaust? Let us look at facts in regards to Triblinka and learn the lesson of the holocaust. In 16 months, 68 Germans with the help of 360 Jews slew over 600,000 Jews. The field had some evidence of buildings having been there. Nothing would have been known of the facts of Triblinka had not the Nazi state kept meticulous records of their accomplishments. History records that the Nazis in trials after WWII and over the radio in South America while still free abroad after WWII stated aloud "Six (6) million was not enough." This is significant. It means the Nazis did not care about the fourteen (14) million killed in the holocaust. Why should Nazis care about slaying Poles, gypsies, and dissidents in Europe against the Nazi state? The HONOR and the GLORY of the Nazi mindset was in killing the people of Yahweh in large numbers.

@jefflyell 2 месяца назад

Thanks, Glen. Nothing more to say.

@lagerhound 2 месяца назад

Very powerful film, and definitely a film I will watch again, too complex to understand it all first time, especially after an analysis like you have given.

@DJKLProductions 2 месяца назад

"The Zone of Interest" fits seamlessly into a list that includes films like "Schindler's List" and "Shoa", although the perspective is different!

@kbeetles 2 месяца назад

This was very powerful and shaking all complacency. In the world the bond between divinity and humanity is the most crucial question. The cornerstone is not technology, progress, evolution, human rights and their inevitable abuse - the cornerstone was and remains to be Jesus, our Lord.

@seanomaille8157 2 месяца назад

Is there a wall in this commentary? A wall against mentioning the Zone of Interest happening right now? Not safely in the past. Are we watering our flowers of theory while children and adults are deliberately being denied water and food? Right now children and adults are playing and singing on one side of a wall preventing food and medical supplies getting to a desperate population on the other side. Have we not built walls of lies for decades to shield the ugly truth? Walls of justification, walls that today force those behind them to rebel and turn to violence - as in the Warsaw ghetto in the past. Walls invite violence as well as hide it.

@JeffColorow 2 месяца назад

Hannah Arendt said something to the effect that genocide is possible in any society where people believe they have a god-given right to obey. In other words, humanity cannot be imposed top down though laws, policies or social media- it can only survive through us and the things we do.

@NolanChisholm 2 месяца назад

Love this interpretation. I’m a Christian myself and when I watched it with my Mother in the theater and she just asked, “how could those people do that?” As for me, there are many aspects of this film that do align with it. In the Bible, the flowers are beautiful and light full, but also represent the fall of man. This interpretation shows what the best part of the film is and why it is so genius, how things are shown, what is shown and what is not shown.

@madameversiera 2 месяца назад

I heard some young people say “there’s nothing happening in this film, I don’t like it”. It’s literally a film on the biggest genocide in European history and they talk about plot development, as if it’s relevant in this case.😑I understand why many Germans didn’t do anything about the Holocaust, seeing how insensitive and cold blooded people are in general.

@thenellierose 2 месяца назад

To be fair, the understanding of the film is largely reliant on one's existing understanding of the events and some things are so subtle as to require more viewings. Even in this video, there's a misunderstanding. (It wasn't the mother-in-law bringing in the washing as stated around 4:55 but a woman in town quite a distance away. Understanding that adds to the mother-in-law's response in highlighting the significance of what was being overlooked in the commandant's household.) The film doesn't do a lot of work in terms of delivering meaning to the audience so, if you're limited in knowledge, I can see how a lot of it would feel...uneventful. For my part, despite my interest in the Holocaust and WWII, I didn't know the significance of the mention of Kanada/Canada upon initially viewing the women chatting in the kitchen. It was only after a google session that I fully understood that scene. It doesn't detract from your point... People can be insensitive but I think it's important to note how information and context helps.

@ujona 2 месяца назад

Hello Pastor Glen! I hope is well with you and your family. Point well made on the two sentences you mentioned as you visited Auschwitz memorial because this beckons on how I can see myself with the crowd yelling to having Christ crucified. We are all fallen yet God's plan was our lifeline and only through grace alone. God bless you sir.

@user-cq4hc3gq6p Месяц назад

Another great program. Thank you.

@donna25871 Месяц назад

The genocide currently happening in Gaza shows that everyone has the potential to inflict evil on their fellow man (women and children). And it has been this way for thousands of years.

@deborahdeborah8724 2 месяца назад

Your interpretation is spellbinding!

@oreopoj 2 месяца назад

You missed something really important: God was there in the little girl leaving apples for the camp prisoners, doing her best to lessen the suffering.

@sandromartelli 2 месяца назад

And where was God when all those people were killed?????

@floraposteschild4184 2 месяца назад

The little girl did it herself, but God takes the credit? Would He also have taken credit if she were caught and executed?

@annial1519 Месяц назад

That was not God, that was the little girl, you said It yourself.

@faa8882 Месяц назад

God has given humans dominion over tha earth. What happens is what humans direct. @@sandromartelli

@Apriluser 2 месяца назад

We have an icon of Fr Maximillian Kolbe in our Anglican parish (ACNA). Powerful story and example for all.

@mfredcourtney5876 2 месяца назад

It is hubris to think that we are above the evil of this period. It's so easy to say "not me" I would never be involved with this. So naive. Every one is capable of evil beyond belief if the situation is right.

@alexandrosalexandropoulos4836 2 месяца назад

Definitely true.

@TheSaltydog07 2 месяца назад

I said that, then remembered how I buckled to peer pressure as a young person, and the time I was cruel to a girl in school.

@karmaindustrie 2 месяца назад

Somehow 'logic' seems to tell me "Only people who are involved, are even able to make things better". I won't ever suggest to get involved in evil but for example if Putin would stop being the president of Russia, then a probably worse man would replace him. So I might have to appreciate his job and maybe even ask myself if I even know for sure about anything he is doing wrong... is he even sinning? For sure, but do I know in what way he is sinning or not sinning? Can I even see it?

@karmaindustrie 2 месяца назад

@@TheSaltydog07I was somewhat cruel to a Philippine neighbor in my childhood, but years ago, I apologized to him on Facebook, comparing my past behavior with "like nazi". My younger brother was his friend tho later, somehow. Anyways, I mean I am pretty unable to do evil, no matter how the situation is, nowadays, because I went through so much emotions leading to true repentance and forgiveness, (and I still will continue this way) that my will transformed already pretty much into the will to love (self-love and love if others - according to Jesus, which is AJ Miller to me) But not doing evil might not prevent me from doing damage, out of "not knowing" - but isn't that the same like evil? I'm (still) confused, but on a high(er) level. #wtf 666

@jonathandnicholson 2 месяца назад

I remember one of the moments that brought me back to faith being my history lecturer, during a lecture about Louis XIV and the Spanish conquest of South America, saying the Enlightenment necessarily led to Communism and Nazism. Not that Christians should be apologetic or that Christianity is just a bulwark against Communism and/or Nazism. Thank you, though, (as ever and as well) for sharing.

@jonathandnicholson 2 месяца назад

To clarify: I mean Christians do not have to apologise for being Christian, but do have to apologise and repent for evil he committed (Ezekiel 18:20).

@seanomaille8157 2 месяца назад

@nolongerlistless 2 месяца назад

Zone of Interest's Barbie house is located in so many border zones. Presumably Klaus lived in a Barbie house...

@nolongerlistless 2 месяца назад

...those brought up in Barbie Houses do indeed wake up and wonder what uniformity their childhood days were spent in. I was brought up speaking English in the ruins of the Empires/Genocides of the Gaels. Everyone speaking and teaching English in the Gaeltacht was/is a "baddie". AN BHFUIL CEAD AGAM, DUL GO DTÍ AN LEITHREAS?

@nolongerlistless 2 месяца назад

In my parents' bespoke SnoPecked home my parents became tearful along with Ascent of Man's Jacob Bronowski - my maths-struggling mum's uni-maths tutor - as Parkinson on his talk show questioned Bronowski's parallel part to Oppenheimer/Einstein in the death blow project to the very Japanese Empire my father fought against on the far Eastern borders of the British Empire... and what sort of mess is Myanmar still in?

@nolongerlistless 2 месяца назад

Jesus wept as Billy Graham addicts in uniform, B-Specials or RUC, brutalised and beat and cynically Gerrymandered... Jesus weeps now about "Christians" & their churches.

@TheSaltydog07 2 месяца назад

This gave me a crying jag. My father, who did not go to church, told his children, "Do not judge a man until you've walked in his shoes." Doesn't this say it all? I hope people share this video.

@RichardCThurston 2 месяца назад

Fantastic film.

@northyorksimonkim Месяц назад

I saw this movie many months ago and I still think about it from time to time, it has nothing to do with it, but it kinda reminds of the movie KIDS by larry clark, which is similarly realistic and it looks like you saw real people and wonder what's happening to them or what happened to them

@roboldx9171 2 месяца назад

What are we like? ...Gaza.

@luisregal3569 Месяц назад

i really enjoyed your video on this new movie you have alot of intelligent thoughts on the holocaust. the zone of interest is gonna be an important film of the year maybe even decade.

@demoscratos4577 18 дней назад

They should make movie with a contrast of this nature of how Palestinians live under Israeli occupation vs how Israelis in Israel proper. The irony of this movie.

@yvonnekneeshaw2784 2 месяца назад

Movie “The boy in the striped pyjamas” is memorable as well.

@sibylleacatos 2 месяца назад

It could be ANY of us I'm afraid 😢....but if you look at his character in the movie he's not a monster ....he's very nice to his kids and his wife never raises his voice not what e could call a monster .... ..of course somwhere else you have to be a monster in order to do what he did ...but I think he feels that's just his job ! Which makes it even more monstrous!! Great movie though!... hanting and chilling...you have to watch something cute and fun afterwards 😮

@IdrisFashan 2 месяца назад

Crimes against humanity isn’t a step down or away from crimes against god, they are an agreeable vocabulary that embraces ALL faiths, including ones that believe in multiple gods, one god and no god. Atheism is also a faith. God isn’t dead when people take him out of human law, god is dead when commandments of faith are broken is his name.

@lindapratt119 2 месяца назад

This is happening now! Can't you see?

@dino0228 20 дней назад

The problem with Christianity is that it didn’t stop at the “human sacrifice.” We only celebrate Good Friday because of Easter Sunday; in other words, there had to be a physical triumph in the Christian story, or the masses wouldn’t buy it. It would otherwise be considered weak. The Holocaust, too, only stopped because the Allies invaded and won. Perhaps more Nazis would have started vomiting over time and stopped each other, but we will never know. Most - if not all - Nazis and German sympathizers had been raised as Christians, but they were all-to-happy to swear allegiance to a man with a mustache; so much for that. That said, I (being part Christian) tend to disregard the resurrection story. It makes much more sense to worship an innocent and profoundly wise life that was senselessly destroyed, and to take away the message that we are all on our own to guard our humanity - with or without Christianity. The laws are written on our hearts and in nearly all world religions and cultures. Sure, they all go south at some point (think Crusades, Inquisition, Israeli-Palestinian conflict) and need to be brought back. And humans do it, usually because they innately know what it’s like to hurt and suffer.

@TheWaynos73 2 месяца назад

Consider that at time of release - a motion picture nominated for best picture - on awards night - a room full of people wearing anti-Semitic pins on their suits - them being the righteous ones?

@72OliveTree 2 месяца назад

anti Semitic pins? The people of Gaza are genetically Semites! How about the Director’s Oscar acceptance speech. He was saying that we are witnessing a zone of interest now… in Gaza.

@dinkster1729 2 месяца назад

And you didn't hear Glazer, the writer of the screen play and the director of the film, tell us the lesson we should draw from this film? The film is a metaphor, right? it's not really a Holocust film.

@thenellierose 2 месяца назад

Calling for a ceasefire in military action against a captive population is not antisemitic. Stop abusing that word, please.

@fernandoformeloza4107 Месяц назад

Their is no excusable ignorance with God

@MarsMellow84 2 месяца назад

If there is a God, why didn't he intervene? If God is all knowing, why didn't he stop these atrocities from happening in the first place? Faith is a dangerous thing.

@jaymcmurdo5584 2 месяца назад

Lithium mines.

@Qborg2000 2 месяца назад

They tell us there is no God and when people start living like there is no God with murder, theft, and lies. They ask, "Where is God?" Jesus stands at the door of every man's heart knocking, but he will not break down the door.

@Aptster1939 Месяц назад

Once again, the insistence of GOD gives justification for all things. Western civilization won't look at other concepts.

@mozartsbumbumsrus7750 Месяц назад

Obviously there is no supreme being!

@kennorthunder2428 2 месяца назад

If only they'd make a movie about the thinking, machinations, psychology and science that resulted in the holocausts caused by communists.

@kamilzabiegala1649 2 месяца назад

U take it too far with the IM sorry part.

@maddi62 2 месяца назад

You're relying on Tom Holland's writing to assert that modern values have originated with Christianity, and, much as I like both the man and the book, I don't believe he's done anywhere near enough work to come to that conclusion. TH has specialised in explaining the Greeks and Romans, and, sure, by comparison to them pre-Christian, Christ's teachings were a vast improvement. He pays no attention, though, to the fact that the Romans were probably suffering ən masse with lead poisoning from their ingenious, but, well, lead plumbing. Were they all insane because of it? Neither does he pay much attention to the far older traditions of Taoism, Confucianism, Buddhism, many Indian religions and North American spiritual beliefs, all of which are big on social virtues every bit equal to Christ's words. Neither does he mention the complex behaviours of many animal species that bare at least a passing resemblance to a value system, involving communication, cooperation and reciprocal benevolence. There is much, much, much to do before you can claim that the values we hold today are not intrinsic to humanity and came, instead, directly from Christianity

@nicholasschroeder3678 2 месяца назад

This is a VERY bad movie. Höss and his wife got it on the ground floor--1923--and steadily worked their way up the hierarchy to become master mass murderers. While most people aren't heroic defiers of evil, they aren't instigators of it either. Herr and Frau Höss weren't duped or in denial; they relished the power, prestige, and plunder their evil brought them. They simply didn't care who or how many they hurt--they were perfectly willing to any atrocity just to get ahead. They weren't normal in any way; they were criminals from the get-go. Granting the Höss's an unwarranted humanity obscures the truth that there are plenty of monsters willing to do the same, but more able to oppose them--if they have the courage.

@mozartsbumbumsrus7750 Месяц назад

Trump: "BUILD THAT WALL!"

@mariom2424 7 дней назад

Today we are no different than humans before. We Humans are both capable of good and evil. No exception. I always ask since l learned about ww2. Where were all the wealthy Jews at the time to help the fellow Jews out of Germany. This is something that has happened to them throughout human history. The Jews in new york in 1933 called for a boycot of Germany at the time. Way before the war started. The ship st elias full of Jews sent out away. Was rejected from other countries including the rejection of Roosevelt here in our U S A. Jews have always had power with banking realty the Diamond industry industry. Where were they in 1933 to 1939 Before the war startde. It was no secret that the National Socialist wanted Jews out of Germany. Someone wrote. No matter what material things change around us . Our clothing. THE EMOTIONS OF HUMANS WILL ALWAYS BE THE SAME.