[PoE] Project Bonk - Longest stun duration - Stream Highlights  

Bonk. Kinda long. Weird project. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Thanks for watching!

Empyrian literally got stun overflow

If we consider this video as playtesting of mechanics at their limits, it would be so funny if GGG finds out that stuns dont work properly and need to be fixed because of this

I remember seeing a video about someone’s build that can stun the uber exarch for minutes. Then, that person will change to another character to finish him off.

my favorite thing about these projects is always the hilariously specific support characters that cost 2.5 mirrors just for the sake of making the numbers as big as possible

I can see this as a pretty funny TFT bossing service: instead of killing the boss for you, I will stun the boss so that you can pretend to kill the boss yourself

You stunned the boss for longer than me losing 6 portals in a map

The stun swirl probably has it's own duration that is just like a set percent+minimum duration longer than the stun duration just to make it more visible as usually you wouldn't even notice the stun without it.

This is like watching curling :D so exiting seeing nothing happening! gj everyone.

I love these projects where you push 1 stat to the extreme

"We may not stun the boss but we definitely gonna stun the devs." Literally can't stop laughing over this comment as I tried a stun build this league and had equally confusing results.

This looks like a buffer overflow problem, where the stun duration exceed the memory limit. It was surprisingly exciting to see nothing happening.

Honestly, blessing in disguise, imagine actually waiting hours of stuns to do the timing for each variation of builds.

Hope the bugs gets fixed for my next 0dps league start

Would love to see GGG's feedback on this kinda thing

Limit testing obscure mechanics, thanks for these end league projects! Always entertaining

kinda hyped about this, although i feel like stun is the most forgotten about mechanic in the game

Another 'stunning' video. keep it up

Don't worry Empy, I think its common. I always say my bonks can last forever but they always end up only lasting 2 minutes as well. I think they maybe 'hard' capped.

I wish that I could see how big AoE the Boneshatter would become with all the multipliers

DOTA 2's 7.33 global stun duration changes were so bonkers they they impacted PoE

The way that video ended with the DnB was so good

Stun gladiator use to be my favorite build, right before they changed how stun worked way back in the day. This is honestly one of my very favorite things in the game

This video was bonkerz!

bonus project that just comes packaged along with this one: making a character with the maximum number of abyss jewels, lmao

I wonder if there is a hidden stun duration ceiling built onto each character/monster to prevent what Empy is trying to do.

FINALLY SOMEONE WENT BACK TO POE! LOGIN DUDE!!!!

Could it be that the amount of time spent on the stun is capped around the amount of frames the stun animation has?

Did you file a bug report in each instance of stuns not landing 😏?

Ever since that update they did to freezing/stunning bosses ~3 years ago, bosses have done very screwy shit after being stunned and during

At 40 something seconds you pass the maximum value of ULONG_MAX on windows which causes an overflow to some few nanoseconds

i learned things from this video!

Perhaps the value for stun duration is stored in a low-bit float value, not allowing it to go above a certain limit before being modulated down to a lower stun duration. Perhaps the server see's the very large stun duration and dumps the value, perhaps code that checks if something is gone wrong is being triggered and remoting the stun. Who knows!

def gotta be an stored value overflow somewhere

POG VIDEO

I think half of bugs in team backlog contains link to Empyrian videos in "Steps to reproduce" section.

This is no longer a stun, this is a coma

12:55 LIVE! Poggers!

WAIT is that the Guild Wars 1 OST "Autumn in Ascalon" followed by "Mhenlo's Theme" followed by "Over The Shiverpeaks" I'm hearing at 13:05 ?

Hmm, any chance an unset ring could get the Abyss socket mod through that node?

Squad trying to not react reminds me old gaming machines that took minutes to load and people around were ordered to not move, so they don't cause problems...

what happens if a boss enters mechanic phase? will he be stunned or new mechanic will be applied ?

As it was explained in the meme Bonk build - Enemies energry shield are overwriting the rule of "100% chance to stun when on full life"

So fun. I don’t know why but this is kinda mu favourite project so far.

24 minutes of pure despair? nope, 25 minutes. upgrades, people! upgrades!

Valyrium with agnostic on player would help to increse it? or just make easier to stun?

It's actually good fun to stack stun on certain things, downside is you usually have to lose damage to get those 10 second or longer stuns to a point of why stun what you just kill. Oh and not to mention currency a single causal player will only dream of.

we are stunning the devs- yes every project thats whats truly happening

So the issue I think they are having is that the base stun duration is cucking them being at .35s along with requiring a hit (that they did fix later) but also dealing like 0 dmg resulting in a higher chance of a missed stun. There might also be a relation with dmg and based stun duration. After adding the support that gave a min of .8s stun they had long stun duration's, as such if they increased the dmg of leap slam they might end up with a higher stun duration even on uber bosses GGG might have added a stun threshold for players or npc's so you can't stun for forever, but I'm leading towards players and that the based stun timer is to low for bosses to be in the hours, let along pass 4-5m stuns.

I wonder if poe uses caps how long an animation will take, and checks to unstun a character when the stun animation completes. Might explain why the spinny stun icono takes longer to fall off then the actual motion.

I like the bricked mbs. It almost rivals my museum =p

Is it possible that similar to old DoT damage, there is a buffer overflow for the max stun that GGG has set to be allowed on Uber Bosses so because you the Bonker are "stunning for so long" it just doesnt stun it instead?

could you ask a dev explaining what is happening with stuns and explaining to it for all us great poe players, would be interesting to hear

dont you get more stun duration with Craghead+ the quiver amplyfying bow?

nice

Just when I think you’ve exhausted all possible ideas.

Bazooka might be boosting your already insanely high stun duration to a level that causes the numbers to overflow, making you deal anti stuns instead?

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Amazing how we get so excited for seeing them do nothing I loved it

The community owes y'all so much for figuring out just how broken stuff is, not always in a good way lol

i am kinda surprised that this did not use craghead + widowhail interaction (maybe damage was a problem there or smth)

I'm just spitballing here but after you've shown the PvP test I came up with this hypothesis: Stun is a debuff that forces you into an animation. What the "stun" debuff does is reduce action speed so the animation lasts a certain amount of time. The animation however is (probably for safety reasons) coded to advance for at least one frame each couple of server ticks. This would mean that, at the values you're at, the actual stun duration is not gated by the effect of the stun debuff, which I assume is scaled by stun stats, but by the total length of a given animation. I'd have to rewatch the video on slowmotion to confirm this or you do some testing but is it possible that units have different stun animations? What I could imagine is that units have different animations that, baseline, last for a certain amount of time and internally the stun debuff is changed accordingly. However since you reached the cap of the stun debuff's effectiveness you're solely gated by the actual animations length. This would also explain why units start moving while still stunned. The animation is over but the calculated duration of the debuff is way longer than the animation could ever be. Again, I'm completely spitballing here, I can't code to safe my life, I'm probably wrong but you know how it is, I may be right and I'm willing to pull that lever.

Empy be like: "When you were creating your Ruthless PoB, I was creating my 21 23 Ruthless gems"

could it be that at fist you miscounted the jumps for ruthless? where does one check if the next hit is going to be ruthless?

Pretty sure Quin69 is around here somewhere taking notes for hes next MEGA RAMPING zdps

“I’M BONKING”

Litterally nothing happens, and yet it is fascinating. Does it means that you can permastun exarch if you bonk again before it stops?

enough stun to roll over the max and end up at 0 again

We look at cursed items at the end of the league, I wonder what the most cursed character would look like?

Peak content.

When POE says they have QA teams, they mean Empy projects.

some poor dev at GGG is gonna have a loong weekend over this

What if it's integer overflow (like it always is KEKW) and animation duration and stun duration have different integer sizes (this explains why whirl is still on when entity is active). We can dig into this rabbit hole even deeper: what if all variables which involved in this formulas combinations also have different sizes.

are stuns refreshable?

BONG

Undiscovered teritory, stun mechanic seems to be broken in some parts, ggg should investigate!

Is it possible that someone accidentally dealt chaos damage to exarch and thus dropped him from full hp?

Bonkai, Senbonkzakura Kagebonki

Quin need to watch this XD

love the name

Actual spaghetti code.

no way you hit some kinda integer overflow in 2023 lol

Stun seems like such a wonky mechanic

I think your mistake is in using leapslam.. something seems to be fiddling with the stunsource on that spell tbh

You get a Sub for that.

When I see "stun duration" on jewels, I know that's going to be big money. The mod people always search for all the time. Basically, life and stun duration on enemies is all everybody ever want. Rest is just bonus.

I'm confused as to how the stun could be overflowing already. Durations are measured in milliseconds, so unless your stun would last longer than 596.5 hours it shouldn't overflow.

1,2, bonk

Damaging enemies always stuns -> did the energy shield on exarch block the stun?

Most interesting 25 min of my life

The "not bonks effect" happens when character does not have a vision. It's just not bonks that way. We're sorry 😢

stun support in next 6 man next league?

Stun would make melee slams so much better if they were more dependable

Now guys, try to repeat that test by reaching 100% stun chance using different way

Take one bonk. I’ll check back with you in two hours. An Exile. Probably.

its odd how stun duration is such a meaningless stat that it just gets away with being inconsistent

what about heavy strike?

do bosses have stun resistance?

spaghetto code like with -100% or less proj speed

I effing love swirlies.