I know they like to center unique npcs around a certain type or style, but did anyone at GameFreak really not anticipate for anyone to use fire-types against this guy? At the very least, assuming people kept using their starter until the end, there's like a 33% chance he'd be guaranteed to lose due to a type disadvantage; and also assuming like kids didn't think to grind levels, which I assume a lot of veterans still do just out of habit even though the skill floor is gradually getting lower with each game.
Chairman Rose: From your perspective, I suppose it must seem that I am doing something terrible. 2:19 This is the funniest moment I've ever seen 😁. 5:05-5:15: Copperajah is appearing at the Energy plant. Then he's final Pokemon Copperajah has been defeated by Prosafia) I like the video!!!
Those battle transitions dont get enough credits Ikr...Like I always loved those battle transitions before battling an important trainer. Back in the day we only had a sprites with just the sentence " You're challenged by... " etc... Then in Gen 4 to 5 we had animated sprites. And now we have those beautiful 3D animations and Im so glad we're still getting this.
While you have a point, throughout the story it's been hinted at that he wanted Leon to catch Eternas, so I doubt that's the reason. I think it really is because of his theme as a company chairman. Also sounds more logical when you notice that all employees use steel type pokemon, while they would be pretty useless against Eternas.
Brett Meyer but it doesn't make him an efficient trainer he should have been packing some psychic and ground types as well they both counter Eternatus but also give his team some much needed diversity hopefully the next version of these games fix this weakness of his
@@ksoundkaiju9256 definitely. And even if they were keen on the mono-steel typing, they should at least have put the berry that reduces supereffective fire damage on his pokemon. The ones against ground and fighting would also be appreciated, but at least he can still somewhat fight it. But yeah, they'd be better off doing like 3 steel types and a rock/ground and a psychic type in his team, so he can at least somewhat counter ground, fighting and fire
Im disappointed. I wanted Rose to end up being some mad man. But instead hes a delusional idiot. His only cool moment was when he interrupted the championship match.
And pretty stupid too...he could've focused on saving Galar any time between oh idk the next thousand years...but he decides to do it now...I feel like it's just bad writing tbh
Everyone in here talking about how he got annihilated with Cinderace with relative ease and here i am just wondering what went through his mind at the beginning of the battle. He was clearly somewhat hesistant about doing all of this, that small glance to his Hyperball, before making up his mind and charging into battle. He really believed that he would make a sacrifice towards a greater goal. He had genuinely good intentions even though he could have gone for it in a different manner
Chairman rose is good but he’s doing a bad thing for good intentions. He’s willing to sacrifice himself and his freedom for Galar’s future. Although why would summoning eternatus help Galar and bringing about the darkest day help
There’s a theory that Rose had a Steel type team so that he could lose on purpose. He assumed Leon would take care of Eternatus and Leon’s ace is a Charizard, do the math. Two of his Pokémon are even 4x weak to fire. He planned to lose and turn himself in for Galar’s future.
It's probably the other way around. He has a team of steel types to specifically counter Eternatus. Steel is immune to poison and resists dragon. Too bad Eternatus had flamethrower.
While preparing himself to lose to Leon is indeed a strange theory (though a good one), Storm Nightmare's idea that he's using Steel team to take down Eternatus is a good one. But yeah, too bad he didn't know Eternatus has flamethrower...
He was so desparate to find a team that would effectively counter Eternatus that he didn't consider weaknesses. It shows his "hurry up and go" attitude towards saving Galar.
The only surprise here is that he was actually a good sport about losing. Well, that and the fact that Fire types absolutely annihilate his team. Get a team that doesn’t fold so severely to a single type!
I'm really starting to miss Cynthia and Ghetsis... I realize that part of the difficulty was that I just didn't understand the game us much back then, but a few months ago I attempted my first Nuzlock ever while replaying Black and White and the series has definitely gotten easier.
Cyrus would like a word with you on that... All his PokéMon were weak to Rock-type moves. But realistically, most people when they first play Platinum -especially as a first timer - probably don't use Rock-types or Rock-type moves given how easy the first Gym is... Here, you're GIVEN (or rather, you can opt for) a Fire-type PokéMon at the START of the game! Plus, Fire-type is such an effective type as it is powerful against a lot. This fight here is just sad...
It would be funny if i picked sobble as my starter and Hop still loses to Rose because that means Hop wouldve battled him with a Cinderace *AND STILL LOSE* 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I think for boss battles like this, they shouldn’t have them have a single type team. It makes battles that are supposed to be hard way too easy, especially if you have a Pokémon that is super effective against the type the boss uses
Yakupup just saying my cinderace one shotted Rose, should have given him 6 Pokemon of different typings, regarding eternatus, I don’t use legendaries so it doesn’t make a difference to me
Lumbago Videos no they mean that story wise Rose intended to catch eternatus and this would have been a good team to do so since its poison/dragon. The main character just happened to get to him first. That and the mono steel theme does fit his very iron hard determination in his beliefs, yet extreme short sightedness. Plus again story speaking he’s implied to be a business man and not a battler. He even said at the end that he hadnt battled in literally forever. We’re all just looking at it from a meta perspective where his team is stupid af cause its weak to one type
Right? And they said they sacrificed more pokemon for better animations, this is bullshit and it disgusts me to know GF thought they could fool us all like that. I miss playing pokemon tho and I already skipped the Let's Go games (those games were a waste of time).
Even worse, someone looked at this and went, "Yeah, this looks fine. Definitely a natural looking pacing animation you'd find in a modern console game."
His battle theme, amazing, top tier material. The choices for this "climax" and his team, disgusting. Just give him a Scizor to complete that x4 weakness to fire. Really what were they thinking?
It is shocking to fight the person who introduced Galar to us? Well, Rose may have been fishy from the start since the professor didn't show up at that time.
@@weirdguy1495 Kukui's case is different to this one. This time the true antagonist does the introduction, but u have no idea of his true identity and and the final fight with him later on, the foreshadowing is extremely genuine. P.S. Rose has shown some degree of craftiness in a earlier scene by not paying his lunch with us.
Being honest. The fact Chairman Rose is a complete 180 of other antagonistic leaders (Where Rose is genuinely uncertain about his goal, and realizes the error of his ways during the post-game by turning himself in and willfully doing community service) is something I really like. Perhaps Maxie/Archie can be similar, maybe N, but Rose was sincerely sorry about his mistake. He's not like Ghetsis, or Cyrus, or Giovanni, or whatever. He tried to do this for the good of Galar, yet simply had the wrong idea to do so (By bringing the Darkest Day and thus Eternatus).
So I've been seeing comments on how Rose's Steel-type team has at least alright secondary coverage, and the only weakness it has in total is to Fire. Rose lost his father to an accident in a coal mine. How fitting, then, that fire is his truest weakness.
Honestly, I like how Chairman Rose is still a good guy at heart! Its just he's a bit too obssessed with Galar's future despite it being a 1,000 years from now! What he needed was build up, and establishment that he has a DEEP passion for Galar's future!
I don't really think he is evil tbh. Sure, he did a shitty thing but he never had bad intentions behind doing it. He never wanted to harm anyone. I wouldn't call him good but he definitely isn't evil, either.
@@silencehate1342 Yeah, he just wanted to secure his country's future. If I recall correctly he's never hostile towards the player or anyone else, really. I think the music is way too epic for this battle, it reminds me of Ghetsis who was rotten to the core.
Yeah he isnt entirely evil, you can see it in his body language at the start of the battle. He is hesitant to fight you and he even congrats you for winning with a smile in his face
IKR? Could have at least given him a rock/steel type, or SOMETHING that resists fire. But no, they may as well have given him a scizor with how many four times fire weak Pokémon he had.
He seems like more of a business man/stay in the shadows kind of villain to me rather than someone who plans things in advance. He probably chose Pokémon that would make him look strong more than actually being strong.
Spenser Farman I mean, I just learned Cyrus has a team that’s entirely weak to rock in gen 4 so he probably was going for style over substance too. The difference is that rock types are generally very slow while Cyrus has a very fast team, as well as Gyarados to counter rocks. The chairman has nothing but slow steels with no way of reliably countering fire types, which generally have middling to high speed. There’s style over substance, but this is more like pure ineptitude.
@@freckled_alex8072 Oleana is a manipulative bitch who tricked, hurt and used Bede and keeps pushing Rose around. Rose is just a morally grey misunderstood character who did bad for good.
I knew Rose was up to something, no one with a smile that gentle is harmless he played the part of good chairman well but now his whole plan is going to fail.
"It is not our part to master all the tides of the world, but to do what is in us for the succour of those years wherein we are set, uprooting the evil in the fields that we know, so that those who live after may have clean earth to till. What weather they shall have is not ours to rule." -- Gandalf, _The Return of the King_
Bruh I didn't even realize how chonky Rose was until he was wearing that one outfit that wasn't his suit in that one town. (I forgot the name, and which town. Could have been Hulbury where Nessa lives).
For me I had a Runerigus with Body press and couldn't stop laughing at this fight. Has the buildup, the amazing orchestra theme, and then an angry painted rock litteraly just falls on top of his pokemon😂
When I started the game, the only reason this boss was hard to the point where I had to use one Max Revive was because I didn’t have a fire type or a fire move to take down the steel types. Also, context aside, Rose’s theme is so good!
Fighting a high ranking member of society who wishes to awaken an alien-like Pokemon in a chamber with your "rival" by your side, not actually helping you of course, just watching you. *Now where have I heard that before?*
@@WynterRayn19 But Greninja was the best starter in Gen 6 cuz of it's own stats and move pool, the game didn't favor you for having it in any other way than it being objectively stronger than the other 2, this game however seems like it was meant to make it easy if you have cinderace, it being the supposed main starter of the Gen doesn't justify how poorly balanced the game was built around that.
Honestly pretty unfair... but I mean Cinderace is pretty cool. Grass types and water types do need sometime to shine. Like, stronger gym leaders or something next time... They deserve way more credit. I used to only go with grass types until watching gameplays of Sword and Shield. Seems like the fire type has major advantages throughout and is clearly better off at the end
@@straightgreat846 apart of it's strong af signature move. Or should I say MoveS cuz it has court change as well which is also broken and a version of protean as ability...
Still not as bad as Diamond/Pearl Where infernape was the _only_ fire type available barring Rapidash and he had type advantage against both other starters by the end
Ok, here me out. Imagine the villain of a Pokémon game actually breaking the rules and having more than six Pokémon. Just imagine the villain having like every legendary that you have to battle and a sick theme. Idk it just sounds cool to me
This fight could have been difficult without cinderace. They should have had a duraludon, which is not weak to fire and has respectable physical bulk and good special attack, can learn earth power as I'm aware. Also make his Mons at least level 58. But with cinderaces power and speed this fight is a joke.
I remember seeing a casual Guy fight It with his whole team not taking advantage of his cinderace until copperaja got sent out, and It looked mostly normal there
I thought it was kind of cool that Macro Cosmos was an evil team of steel users, but at the same time, they probably should not have made their leader strictly a steel user, as anyone with a fire type can sweep him easily. I swept him with Cinderace just by spamming Pyro Ball and I had to use Flame Charge once since Cinderace missed once with Pyro Ball. In most of the other games the evil team leaders had an assortment of different types, and as a result were significantly more difficult. N, who was in my opinion the strongest evil team leader, had a bunch of different types.
Nah, I picked Grookey and he actually took down 2 or 3 of my Pokémon and I was all around mid 50’s in level. Granted my team was incredibly slow and not very well balanced, but hey, that made the game more fun because it was a bit more challenging and I got to use all the mons I like.
For someone who was planning to, and succeeded in awakening a legendary, who is also potentially one of the most dangerous creatures ever, how does he not have a full team?
Who needs logic, am I right? Also, I'm not too shocked since in Pokemon, you can inexplicably make it rain or shine indoors, even in places where it shouldn't be possible.
Skylarfox ships in all fairness he’s not ‘evil’ evil. Just misguided and foolish. Villain/anatagonist is more accirate XD. Or would protagonist make more sense since the main character is trying tonstop his plan 🤔
I'm all for the twist where a person who you've come to love and respect suddenly betrays you, showing their true colors as the main villain/part of a greater-scope plot... When it's done right. The problem with Pokemon's twist villains is that they make them WAY TOO obvious! Hmm, seemingly incompetent villain team that appears to be there for purely comic relief? Yeah, no way are they going to be the main antagonists... But if it's not them, then who is? Hmmmmm... Oh! It must be the organization the game keeps advertising is good and wants you to trust. Or maybe it's the guy who's the most in power and perfectly capable of carrying out a plot of world domination! And if it's not them, then it must be the person who has the *exact same color scheme as the villain team.* Pokemon, I get you're trying to aim for a younger audience, but kids aren't THAT ignorant!
