Pokemon Mystery Dungeon But if the Characters Were Smart 

The Dialga plan was so good that made Dialga talk normally.

LMAO Mudkip didn’t have to do Cresselia dirty like that

the problem with the dialga one is that dialga was turning insane. They tried to reason with him.

I was expecting the solution for temporal tower to be; Throw stun seed, then place gears in slots

Nah the Cresselia Reviver seed line had me rolling

I'd say everything but Darkrai makes sense. It would be weird if the "Nightmare Pokemon" didn't want to engulf the world in darkness to create an eternal nightmare.

I was going to point out the very obvious flaws in all of these corrections but then Mudkip told Crescelia to shut the hell up. 10/10 video You Win Forever

When you make so much sense the voiceless MC actually speaks

I like how Dialga transitioned from, "I will destroy you mode" to "Just put them in their places and we should be good to go" while in "Primal Mode" LOL 😆

I like how darkrai is just staring at the food rethinking all his life choices

I'm glad that in later mystery dungeon titles they at least decided it was a good idea for the escort to have their level scaled roughly to the mission, feels great having so much extra room in the pockets, you know?

And thus, Cresselia became the next villain

You fool, by merely pushing Dusknoir you now have to fight TWO Dialga. That's like twice the amount of Roar of Time.

idk with grovyle pushing dusknoir he's like what. less than half his size? it makes sense that he had to go with him because he probably had to use all of his body weight just to get him to go thru the hole

To be fair, Dialga was already losing control of his mind at that point, that's why he was unreasonable and you had to knock him out. the game literally tells you that. 0:33

If Grovyle hadn't gone to the future with Dusknoir, he would have returned, or even worse, Primal Dialga, it even tried to do it in a special chapter.

0:50 I think it's more likely that Dialga would accuse you of being thieves as well...

I always assumed Grovyle did that because he wanted to make sure Dusknoir stayed in the past for good or something.

That last point isn’t far fetched for Darkai, as it’s a Pokémon that really hates light. So a world full with darkness would be a wet dream for this mon.

Man, they're so smart that the protagonist actually spoke out loud.

To be fair Grovyle would have to be very careful when pushing him like that since just touching any part of the portal would sent him to the future, and it kinda looks like he's on top of it there when dusknoir was pushed

only 36 reviver seeds? cresselia mustve been extra careful to stay out of danger today

I always thought the point of Grovyle going into the future with Dusknoir was to prevent Dusknoir from going to Primal Dialga in the future and just having him open up another Dimensional Hole to go back. Showing up 5 second after they pushed him in and accomplishing basically nothing. Which is what Dusknoir was going to do in Special Episode 5 if he didn't have the idea of taking Grovyle's body on top of that.

Cresselia should've been invited to eat reviver seeds to the guild

"You used 36 of our Reviver Seeds on the way here." So relatable LOL

Riolu: That's a good point. Mudkip: Wait, you can talk?!

Looks like Loudred isn't having dinner

-Dusknoir is larger and stronger than Grovyle, so Grovyle would need to back off and pick up a decent amount of speed to get enough momentum to push in Dusknoir. Doing that would give Dusknoir time to strike back or flee. By grappling him he would be able to force him in, albeit at his own expense. -Dialga has gone mad beyond listening to reason at this point. -Heal Seeds deal with conditions like poison, burns, or paralysis/stunning. Manaphy was straight-up dying from something biologically wrong with it. It would be like taking an anti-inflammatory medicine when you're dying of Stage IV cancer. -The darkness spread by Darkrai induces eternal nightmares for the afflicted. Darkrai can manipulate peoples dreams. By doing on a planetwide scale that it could effectively make itself a god.

2:06 Man, I felt that. She was freaking useless in that battle and/or dungeon.

Heal seeds heal status conditions. If it cured Curse and Leech seed then maybe it could cure Manaphy.

I loved the ending one and it was perfect, but I would have died of laughter even more if I saw cresselia’s head in the window watching them eat lol

0:09 Mudkip is apparently from New York.

I think the issue with Dialga is that he's no longer capable of thinking reasonably by the time you reach him. The tower's collapse is clearly having a detrimental effect on his mind, so trying to explain the situation to him wouldn't work.

That first one is something I always wondered about lol

Dialga talking normally and being okay with the plan got a huge laugh out of me!

1:57 HE WANTS IT

Grovyle went with him to make sure Dusknoir wouldn't just pull time travel shenanigans and come back again.

Laughed so hard at Dialga staring at the time gears and Riolu's "Why?" 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Option 2 wouldn't have worked bc Dialga was becoming more and more unhinged by the second

i love how dialga stops talking in all caps LOOOL

Pokemon mystery Dungeon: Explorers of intelligence

Chatot: that's the only way to heal it. Mudkip: but why don't use a heal seed? Chatot: that may work. But only the short term, the same way you don't eat a heal seed to stop being thirsty or how a previously eaten heal seed won't heal you again if you get poisoned. Here, I'll give one to little Manaphy here to help with the symptoms while you go for the Phione Dew.

Cresselia bout to end the world because of what Mudkip said

“Why don’t you just push him in?” “Because he’ll just come back if there’s no one to stop him in the future.” - “Here are the time gears. We were returning them.” “I DON’T BELIEVE YOU. I CANNOT SEE REASON BECAUSE I AM GOING INSANE.” - “Why don’t we just use a Heal Seed?” “Because it only removes status effects and can’t actually recover your health.” - “Why would you want a world of darkness? That sounds awful and needlessly evil.” “Because darkness is my natural environment. What’s normal for you is my own personal hell that I can only escape for a few hours at a time if I’m lucky.”

All those made me chuckle, it's true those were some unnecessary drama / plot holes (though not that big), especially Grovyle's "sacrifice" *But* just for the sake of it I'll advocate for the reasoning behind the (original) scenes - Though the big speech ruins this impression, Grovyle throwing himself into the dimensional hole with Dusknoir could make sense if that hole's existence was time constrained. If Grovyle just threw Dusknoir in, who knows if he might not just take it the other way to come back if it still exists, so supplementary precautions had to be taken - It wasn't Dialga on the Temporal Tower but Primal Dialga (or at least in the making). He was turning crazy, so I wouldn't expect him to listen even when presented the time gears. So valid reason to throw hands before speaking (at least way more than with Rayquaza in the previous game) - Heal Seed according to some wiki, "[…] heals many bad statuses, such as being poisoned or paralyzed" "Many", hence not everything. I don't exactly remember Manaphy's illness, but pretty sure it wasn't just a bad burn you can catch fighting other pokemons - Darkrai is basically a psychopath. Do you really expect to reason with him on his motives? He wants to have a world to his liking that he can rule, that's unfortunately pretty realistic considering what can be found in the real world

The best part of this is how the music just stops playing every time you make a good point, as if to leave the idea in the air until eventually the realisation hits them like 'oh shit yeah' Also Mudkip is such a savage, especially to Cresselia 😂

These were fantastic. We need more of these! They are hilarious!

The Cresselia burning through all your reviver seeds is too real 😂🤣😂🤣

Rest in peace all the seeds Cresselia used up when I was a child trying to do this mission. XD

Well if Palkia wad smart the protagonists would've never met Cresselia or Darkrai because the deity of space wouldn't waste its time kidnapping them from their home to its secret lair before attempting to kill them and it wouldn't accidentally pushing them off a cliff in trying to do so.

Another way to heal Manaphy would be a reviver seed.

Darkrai: this mortal food, it disgust me.

I was half expecting Cresselia to be standing to the side watching everyone eat at the end.

My theory about Grovyle going with Dusknoir is that Dusknoir would immediately try to get back into the past again if he was pushed alone, but with Grovyle going with him into the future, he can make sure he stops Dusknoir from just travelling back and thus ensuring a free path for our characters.

For me the best part is darkrai is just floating there MENACINGLY

Darkrai:" Well, dark is literally in my name, so that is kind of my thing."

I love how the literal villain of the game is invited to party but cresselia can go to the deep end and everyone will like this

Notice how Darkrai is just floating there at the end & leaving his plate of food completely untouched?

2:20 *”How do I eat?”*

0:17 it's to make sure

"Shut the fuck up Cresselia" eternally obliterated, 10/10

Dialga was So Suprised he stopped talking in CAPs

"Sounds good to me" - Every Legendary

dayum, Mudkip throwing some shade at everyone xD

This is what happens when you give Dialga a Snickers. Because you're not you when you're hungry.

Grovyle could use a move like Bullet Seed or Energy Ball to blast Dusknoir into the portal. If it isn’t enough, it might stun him long enough for the others to recover and gang up on Dusknoir; it would definitely be a karmic end for such a horrible villain. If Darkrai plunged everyone into an eternal slumber and nightmare, wouldn’t everyone eventually die within a couple months? They’d be unable to wake up and eat or drink and the stress would kill them faster. All of Darkrai’s victims would be dead before the year was a quarter over. What exactly would Darkrai do if he had nobody to torture?

Better line choices Dan: yeah there's an hole in that plan Darkrai. Darkrai: "chuckles" and that 'hole' is? Dan: the move Flash. Darkrai: 😶😶😶 "faceplams" darn it.

Likely lore reasons why these happen: 1: Grovyle knew he was going to disappear soon anyways, and it's likely Dusknoir was too heavy for Grovyle to push without pushing his whole body against Dusknoir. 2: Primal Dialga's too berserk to communicate or reason properly, and even if they tried to sneak past him, they would just end up getting hit while their back was turned, which could be fatal (TheKpa11's suggestion of using a stun seed then running past him is good though) 3: Heal seeds likely are meant to help your body speed up its healing of temporary statuses like poison and paralysis, which can eventually be healed off without a heal seed. Sickness probably needs its own special medicine, especially for a specific legendary. 4: Some people just get sick of seeing the sun, I suppose (Cresselia not joining dinner is a good call though!) But great video like always, PMD gan!

logic is such a beautiful thing

The first two I can kind of understand the choices they made. Grovyle went back with Dusknoir because that way Dusknoir doesn’t try to come back to the present to stop the whole paralyzing planet. Dialga was just uncontrollable and couldn’t be reasoned with. Still a great video. I loved it.

I actually really love this video because the humor is pretty on point with actual mystery dungeon humor (at least in rescue team and exploration team, I don't know about the other games)

If I was in PMD I would’ve done this 😂😂😂😂

0:00 - 0:30 there is a reason why grovile doesn’t just push him in… dialga can open dimensional holes anywhere as well as anyWHEN… so if dusknoir was simply pushed in… he would come back strong a few minutes after being pushed in to give them a false sense of hope and would delay them long enough to allow temporal tower to collapse… grovyle went with him to prevent that very situation from happening… you can’t prove me wrong here…

How about an alternate timeline where Chatot actually listens to your story after the Apple Woods chapter resulting in Team Skull getting rightfully punished?

That Darkrai scene is more like another nightmare played out than anything

The cresseia jabs never get old

1:25 - becuase

0:59 One of my favorite soundtracks from this game, so beautiful

Even if you push someone who's holding you you'd still be held and pulled in, Dialga was insane and insanity is not the same as intelligence, heal seed may recover most status ailments but there's no lore saying it's a cure all and Chatot wasn't stupid to begin with. Villains aren't reasonable not because of intelligence but because of the kind of person they are and Darkrai's biology is also not intelligence related. I will say though that line about reviver seeds was a very nice joke.

36 revive seeds damn that must be a deep backpack

Bold claim, I personally wouldn't use 'smart' to describe these solutions. 1. I reckon it would be easier for Grovyle to go with Dusknoir and keep him company to ensure he doesn't regroup and return to the present with even more (or stronger) forces. More importantly however, the portals weren't introduced to work like that; What touches them goes through and if Grovyle needed to grab Dusnoir that firmly to even get him through one of those, he inevitably would have to follow as well. 2. Dialga doesn't seem to recognize (or respond to) reasoning since with the tower collapsing it is losing its mind, that's the whole point of the fight. 3. An Illness isn't exactly a status condition or at least it doesn't have to be one. One Heal Seed might buy time by helping with the symptoms for a day or two, but it doesn't have to cure Manaphy's Illness at all. 4. I don't have much to say about Darkrai since you made him a completely different character. To "Who would want the world to be 'engulfed in darkness'?" he would simply respond "I do."

Dialga: FOR THOSE WHO INVADE THE TEMPORAL TOWER, I'LL SHOW THEM NO MERCY! Grovyle: We have the Time Gears for saving the tower. Dialga: *Understandable, have a nice day*

“Chatot, you are so fucking stupid.” That felt personal, and I love it.

This is too hilarious. I almost fell off my seat. Thanks!

Should have had riolu and darkrai line go like this: Darkrai: I want to engulf the world in darkness. Riolu: how are you gonna see then? Where you gonna sleep?

The problem with the grovyle one was that if grovyle had just pushed dusknoir in, dusknoir would’ve gotten right back to primal dialga and would’ve been sent right back to temporal tower to fight again and bring primal dialga to fight too

It should be noted in lore dialga quit listening to reason, he became paranoid and afraid and acted out because of it. Video dialga was surprisingly chill despite that

I really liked the scenes. I think that the PMD games would benefit from humorous twists like these.

Dialga was being directly manhandled by Darkrai man you know that wouldn't fly

Idk, pushing a heavy pokemon like that from a save distance and without risking a counter attack seems like a stretch Angry dialga also wouldn't necessarily listen to reason and if a heal seed works on illnesses is also questionable, especially since manaphy got ill from being on land, rather than actually getting infected with something

"Who would want the world to be engulfed in darkness?" "Me, you dumbass. I just said that. Now if you would let me speak, maybe..."

No one: Darkrai: Remember when Dusknoir dragged you into the future? Where you endured months of torment and suffering? Or the time when your deer ol' friend Grofyle sacrificed himself to send Dusknoir Back? Or how about the time when you tried to stop the collapse of Temporal Tower and Dialgia attacked you? *It was me, Mudkip. I corrupted Dialgia to the point of madness. I orchestrated the entire thing. Planned every single detail just to make your life a living hell.*

Someway, somehow, I made it through the Dark Crater without Cresselia fainting *ONCE* (The only time any of my team fainted was because of moves such as reflect which one shotted)

Okay, let's go by points: 1) The first scenario could not be done, since Dusknoir had recovered strength at that time and could deceive Grovyle and take him to the Future 2) The fact that the protagonists deliver the Gears to the Primary Dialga is not a good idea either, since Dialga at that point attacks those who reach the top to sabotage the Tower 3) The Cure Seeds or the Scales of Gabite I do not know says they can cure Manaphy's disease, it would have been more logical to use Jirachi 4) To begin with, Darkrai would not even listen to you, since you are locked in an illusion that he controls, from which the protagonist could get out thanks to the partner or what he realizes; if you questioned the reason for his plan, Darkrai would not doubt at all, since his purpose is to conquer the world, besides, if you go powerful to that battle and with high IQ, not even Cresselia would be a problem

What do you mean "Who would want the world to be engulfed in darkness"? The guy just told you. He does.

The Cresselia part lol

This is hilarious! Mystery Dungeon is one of my favorite series, and the comical spin you put in these high tense situations made it so funny! Thanks for making my day :)

Wasnt dialga going insane so even seeing the time gears wouldnt work to calm him normally. Or is he one of the now smart characters

Grovyle: If I did that then Celebi would be by herself with no one to help her Chatot: First off rude and second a heal seed won’t work on this illness Darkrai: Did that happen? I don’t remember

You know those old question type memes that said, "You can put one f bomb in any movie of your choice, what movie and where?" This is by far the best use case of that concept. My god, this was already satisfying but the scene with chatot made me lose it laughing more than I have in a while.