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Top 10 Most difficult Recruits in Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time 

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In the video I'll be taking an in-depth look at the 10 most difficult recruits in Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time. The top 10 is based on a number of Recruit 'em All speedruns (both with and without Wondermail codes).
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@rayzuke1232
@rayzuke1232 3 года назад
The most difficult pokemon to recruit is cresselia. Its so hard to forgive someone who ate 40 Reviver seeds
@NAPZ.Entertainment
@NAPZ.Entertainment 3 года назад
LMFAO
@Crrool
@Crrool 3 года назад
Accurate XD
@Kali_Krause
@Kali_Krause 3 года назад
Dude, I got Cresselia after eating 3 reviver seeds. I just straight ground my Snorelax and Torrterra.(I had Munchlax and Twertwig as my partner.) Last time I played this game, they were both level 100
@rayzuke1232
@rayzuke1232 3 года назад
@@Kali_Krause That is what we call lucky
@RoachOfBabel
@RoachOfBabel 3 года назад
Is it weird that im level 46 and i did the entire darkrai thing without spending a single reviver seed?
@jessealexander3346
@jessealexander3346 3 года назад
Let's be all be honest, we all knew Kecleon would be number one when we clicked on the video...
@Crrool
@Crrool 3 года назад
Yeah, that wasn't really a questionable choice. Kecleon is just by far the worst recruit.
@Anthonyvideogame
@Anthonyvideogame 3 года назад
Yes I knew
@circle3565
@circle3565 3 года назад
Like, even Bulbapedia's recruitment page specifically mentions you need literally every trick in the book to have a 0.2% chance to recruit Kecleon
@Crrool
@Crrool 3 года назад
@@circle3565 It's actually only 0.1% with every possible bonus, so it's even less than that
@circle3565
@circle3565 3 года назад
@@Crrool Well damn
@ilias-4252
@ilias-4252 3 года назад
.1% doesnt mean you need 1000 kecleons to get 1...actually there is a 50% chance that you will have gotten one by the time you have killed 693 kecleons. There is also a 36.7% chance that you wont get one even if you kill 1000 kecleons.
@Alphabet576
@Alphabet576 3 года назад
It does mean that, assuming that the recruitments are independent events, the average number (ie. expected value) of Kecleon you need to murk before you successfully recruit one is 1000.
@ilias-4252
@ilias-4252 3 года назад
@@Alphabet576 I don't know what expected value is could you explain(mathematically)? Also my math is correct you can do them yourself. The probability of not getting a kecleon is 99.9%, the question is how many do you need to kill before recruiting one(assuming you stop at the event of recruiting one). This is written as (0.999)^x=y and it represents the probability y of not getting a kecleon after x attempts. Letting y=0.5 the probability of not getting a kecleon will be=0.5 so the prob of getting a kecleon will also be =0.5 (1 - 0.5 = 0.5) solving (0.999)^x=0.5 will give you x aprox =693.
@Alphabet576
@Alphabet576 3 года назад
@@ilias-4252 your math is indeed correct. Expected value is just the numerical average of the random variable's value over all possibilities. Say you flip a fair coin 100 times, the expected value of the number of heads you get is 50. But if the coin is rigged so that each flip is heads 60% of the time, the expected value of the number of heads becomes 60 instead. Here the variable is "number of attempts required before Kec is successfully recruited" and it is equal to 1 with probability .001, 2 with probability .001*.999, and in general n with probability .001*(.999)^(n-1). This is known as the "geometric distribution with parameter .001." Its expected value is 1/parameter, in this case 1/.001=1000. So the expected number of Kecs you need to beat to recruit it is 1000. But it can be more or less because it's a random process.
@easternwoyer3876
@easternwoyer3876 2 года назад
I got it 1st try
@AceFaz
@AceFaz 2 года назад
Yeah, you don't NEED To do 1000, But u will if u want some decent odds of recruiting one.
@729MendicantTide
@729MendicantTide 2 года назад
And to add insult to injury, you have to track each recruit you have already obtained yourself. At least Sky was generous to color the recruitment message differently if you already have one of that species
@isenokami7810
@isenokami7810 Год назад
Then again, since it might take a while to evolve guys, I already do this.
@danielsimmich1858
@danielsimmich1858 3 года назад
Now this is the kind of content I like to see. PMD is sorely underrepresented on RU-vid :(
@AceFaz
@AceFaz 2 года назад
There are only a few people that still upload content from it here, and the channels aren't really huge either, one of the main ones is "PMD Gang" with only a few thousand, But they upload some of the best regularly, they even gave us a way of recruiting Primal Dialga,
@soulglitcher
@soulglitcher Год назад
@@AceFaz Yeah I really need to try that sometime.
@AceFaz
@AceFaz Год назад
@@soulglitcher I got one months back, and since they're never updating that game, you will probably be able to do it whenever you want
@soulglitcher
@soulglitcher Год назад
@@AceFaz Yeah, I would've done it already, but I somehow lost both my DS's at the same time, so I can't really play it.
@AceFaz
@AceFaz Год назад
@@soulglitcher wait- did you bring both of them somewhere, or did you lose both of them in 2 seperate places...?
@jadetboi
@jadetboi 3 года назад
I just completed a recruit em all in darkness (no wondermail*), and this list holds up very well to what I experienced. I got exceptional luck with the seven treasures legendaries tho. I suffered so much recruiting Unown-W, Y and Z as well as failing 6 pichu recruits (I was using a level 100 fast friend with golden mask and my own service fish throughout the whole process). All the spacial rift recruits sucked, lunatone and solrock come to mind specifically. Grinding for levels on abomasnow, waillord, bronzong, and purugly was really boring too. Kecleon also took multiple attempts in Mt. Horn (I had to run zero isle south a few times to get a mobile orb for it once i realised how tough it was to stay alive). My IGT was around 98 hours, so I would guess my actual time was like 110-120 hours (I did this over 9 months this year on and off) *it was no wondermail apart from the seven treasures, no way to access the missions without wondermailing it in time/darkness
@jadetboi
@jadetboi 3 года назад
I also forgot, jirachi is a pain exclusive to time/darkness as it is a very low % recruitment rate in final maze on floor 21, meaning you can't bring in the golden mask and have to purely rely on level and fast friend (I didn't even have fast friend as I intended to use jirachi as my fast friend user because chikorita is so overdone and i wanted my playthrough to feel different). It also loves to hide in water so sometimes you just cannot access it.
@Crrool
@Crrool 3 года назад
I actually completely forgot about Jirachi. That should've been up there, and pretty high too. I've lost a run once to not recruiting it 13 times in a row, losing me several hours. The 7 treasure codes are allowed in the no wondermail speedrun ruleset for that exact reason btw. I gotta admit, 98 hours IGT is pretty impressive for a casual attempt :)
@frootloopthechatot9766
@frootloopthechatot9766 3 года назад
Out of the 3 explorers games, which one has the best chance at recruiting all pokemon aside from arceus?
@Crrool
@Crrool 3 года назад
Only in Sky can you get every Pokémon. Time doesn't have Mewtwo and Shaymin, Darkness doesn't have Celebi and Shaymin
@frootloopthechatot9766
@frootloopthechatot9766 3 года назад
@@Crrool ah ok. Thanks for clearing that up :)
@Missingno_Miner
@Missingno_Miner 3 года назад
There is no pain greater than having a driftloon harass you by spamming unburden ominous wind on floor 49 of sky stairway. The ghost types camping you in the walls(Who tf thought that was a fair gameplay mechanic?) don't help either. It took me weeks to get my underleveled ass through that dungeon when I went through it for the first time, and I didn't even get Rayquaza. Seriously, it's still one of the hardest dungeons that don't put any kind of special restrictions on you imo. Long, big floors, no rest stop, boss fight at the end, and the hellspawn that drifloon is in the mystery dungeon franchise.
@Crrool
@Crrool 3 года назад
Yeah, having a mobile scarf really helps midigate the camping in the wall. That said, I agree, its a rough dungeon. The long floors, many ghosts, and then the boss only being 50% to recruit makes it just aweful
@gingerkays7362
@gingerkays7362 3 года назад
I’ve never gone through Sky Stairway, but I know exactly what you mean thanks to Super. Unburden minimize makes Drifloon an absolute nightmare when you’re first traveling to Lively Town via Sheer Mountain Range
@Kali_Krause
@Kali_Krause 3 года назад
That's why i went Munchlax lol
@aubreyh1930
@aubreyh1930 3 года назад
@@gingerkays7362 oh god the ones in super aren’t nearly as bad
@AceFaz
@AceFaz 2 года назад
Well, Just get a Drifloon with that same ability and Ominous wind, overlevel it and uno reverse them all-
@jexjexjexjex11
@jexjexjexjex11 3 года назад
For me, I found Jirachi one of the hardest to recruit, since you can’t really bring any recruit boosting items in the Final Maze
@Crrool
@Crrool 3 года назад
Yeah, I realised later that I forgot to put Jirachi on the list. Its definitely up there as one of the worst recruits in the game and it really shouldve been on the list. Just didn't think about Jirachi when I was preparing for this video
@jexjexjexjex11
@jexjexjexjex11 3 года назад
@@Crrool That is okay. I thought you excempted the pokemon from the list considering the much more easier recruitment in PMD Sky.
@dutchminers66
@dutchminers66 3 года назад
@@Crrool im sorry folks
@zweettarts3769
@zweettarts3769 3 года назад
It took me 20 tries to finally recruit Jirachi I was loosing hope lol
@Horystar
@Horystar 3 года назад
I'm sp glad to be a Sky player
@Feral174
@Feral174 3 года назад
I've seen so much of those low spawn rate pokemon by accidentally stepping on pokemon traps, not activating them, then throw a lot rocks around then activate it. Used pikachu to grind xp
@Crrool
@Crrool 3 года назад
Thats actually not a bad strategy. Will have to keep it in mind for the next recruit 'em all
@jalendelgado4042
@jalendelgado4042 3 года назад
I love that there are still people that acknowledge the brilliance embedded within the concept of The PMD games. Definitely going to sub.
@The_Viridian
@The_Viridian 3 года назад
The issue with Kecleon is that you basically have to shiny hunt to get it. There are some shiny hunting methods that are way better than 1/1000. Then again, if you have good stats, killing Kecleons is faster than most shiny hunting methods.
@steelformrarity4590
@steelformrarity4590 3 года назад
This is so cool, I loved playing explorers of time as a kid and beat it a few times but never made it to being able to evolve pokemon. I didn't know there was so much more content I was missing out on
@Crrool
@Crrool 3 года назад
The game is huge, especially when it comes to recruiting everything. Even with Wondermail the current record is over 38 hours to complete it, so it's no small feat. :)
@sialia385
@sialia385 3 года назад
This was a fun video! Thank you for keeping Pokémon Mystery Dungeon alive on RU-vid :) Also, Chinchou/Lanturn is my favourite pokémon of all time
@IIxIxIv
@IIxIxIv 3 года назад
Hey I've watched at least one of your speedruns in a marathon, glad to see this category is alive
@DedicatedCaffeineUser
@DedicatedCaffeineUser 3 года назад
I honestly didn’t realize how lucky I was to have recruited a few of these Pokemon simply through them joining me after I completed their request on the Job Board while playing through PMD EOS when I was still working on my 100% completion run. I might pick off where I left off soon but I really don’t wanna go to Aegis Cave again to recruit Unown and get all their stones too.
@Crrool
@Crrool 3 года назад
Recruiting unown doesnt have to be too bad. If you want to hunt them down, look for floors where the letters before it are missing (so if you need F and C, D and E are missing the odds of finding it go up significantly). This is especially true if the missing letter is in the name of the regi (so I, C and E for the Regice floors)
@DedicatedCaffeineUser
@DedicatedCaffeineUser 3 года назад
@@Crrool thanks for the intel! It’d probably also help if I came back at a later time instead of doing it while the post game story is still in full swing, but I can be rather stubborn at times lol.
@nerobiblios4086
@nerobiblios4086 3 года назад
I guess I was lucky, I recruited a Kecleon once, when I was a kid. I dint even know you could only get them by stealing from the shop, I just stole something and killed a few that were blocking the stairs, and boom recruited one.
@Crrool
@Crrool 3 года назад
That is a really lucky recruit for sure :)
@eline8087
@eline8087 3 года назад
and you also just happened to be carrying a golden mask, had a pokemon lvl 99-100, and that pokemon had the IQ fast friend? Not saying that couldn't happen by coincidence, but...
@RocketPooch
@RocketPooch 3 года назад
@@eline8087 Golden mask or friend bow? Do either of them work? If it's only golden mask... where do you find them? I don't remember if I have one or not haha.
@eline8087
@eline8087 3 года назад
@@RocketPooch Golden mask gets you the highest added percentage (I think it goes up by 20 or 25 %, friend bow only goes up for 5), and you can find them on a high level floor of one of the zero isles. It's probably easier to look for a wonder mail online that gives it though XD . This is for pmd sky/darkness/ time, if you're talking pmd blue or red, there's only the friend bow.
@Dukstless
@Dukstless 3 года назад
2:08 - I believe the spawn limit is 14. In Rescue Team Pokemon are spread more thinly so no floor hits that limit... but that has its downsides, like trying to find Pidgey or Exeggcute in Howling Forest. By the way, doing something with 0.1% 1000 times gives you... 63.2% chances of at least one success. You still have about 1 in 3 to get fucked by RNG.
@Crrool
@Crrool 3 года назад
Sounds about right. I know there's a cap, don't remember the exact number. Lanturn stops blinking when attacked when the cap has been hit so thats always a quick way to know if you can still get more Pokemon. As for Kecleon, that's the major issue. In my best run (the current with Wondermail WR) I got Kecleon on the 99th attempt, but I've seen it into the several thousand before as well. Its just stupid tbh
@criskooo2802
@criskooo2802 3 года назад
How did you came up with 63.2%?
@Dukstless
@Dukstless 3 года назад
@@criskooo2802 1-(A')^1000; or in layman's terms, one minus the opposite scenario happening 1000 times in a row.
@criskooo2802
@criskooo2802 3 года назад
@@Dukstless ok thank you, man i really wished to know more about probability, that's so interesting
@SpoopyChicken
@SpoopyChicken 2 года назад
I know primal dialga doesn't count because it's a bug but if he was on this list it'd probably be 8th or 9th, not because getting it is super rare from the wonder mail trick (I got mine on my 5th try) The thing that makes getting primal dialga a pain is actually re-typing the wondermail code each and every single time you need to do it so it ends up taking forever to get.
@MozzarellaCheez
@MozzarellaCheez 3 года назад
Dang, I didn't even know you made videos like this, but it's nice to see some pretty informative, agreeable content getting produced for this game. I feel like I remember you prompting me for the ten hardest Pokémon to get in this game, and I probably just answered, "Porygon, Porygon2, Porygon-Z" lol. So at least this captures a fair amount of variety in terms of the challenges we face. There's like 50 Pokémon or something in this game that are difficult just because of 2% spawn rates so it's hard to only pick 10 hard things. Also I'm glad this footage shows Infernape strats, Time ReA WM is literally the only category where he gets to shine, and it's a shame because he is extremely fun to go fast with in PMD2.
@Crrool
@Crrool 3 года назад
I don't remember asking you directly for it, though making the video had been on my mind for a little while, so I might have in stream at some point or something XD
@pokedude720
@pokedude720 3 года назад
Granted, I'm not that familiar with the categories, but I was expecting Darkrai to be on the list somewhere; considering that it only spawns in 5 dungeons, 1 floor each, requires the Mystery Part or Secret Slab (which I assume would be hard to get in the non WM category), and has a -22% base rate.
@Crrool
@Crrool 3 года назад
Darkrai definitely deserves an honorable mention. Its pretty consistent to see though and one of the dungeons it spawns in has a ton of rare recruits (porygon, bronzor, lunatone and solrock) so you usually go through it often enough to easily recruit it along the way. Its a bad recruit, its just that some of the others are worse imo
@HermitTFG
@HermitTFG 3 года назад
In my recruit them all journey, kyogre took me around 7+ time through its dungeon not having anyone with double speed that was high leveled enough to go through. So I had to grind constantly through the dungeon with my party having the item that priorities water Pokemon recruitment. I must have gotten extremely bad luck cause with rayquaza I had gotten the recruit first try. The others like picku, abomasnow, bronzong, Milotic, and porygonZ were also difficult (especially level ups), but luckily wasn’t as harsh give or take making you restart a dungeon so many times. Kecleon is the worst. As of me putting in this comment, kecleon is the last Pokemon I need to recruit and am most certainly making a video for my process. Your video explains it perfectly why he sucks so bad. I am leveling up a mew for fast friends ability. He’s at max friendship so I have the ability, it’s just now having to grind for hours to get mew at level 99-100. I believe I’m at 80ish at the moment, but has been a process.
@Crrool
@Crrool 3 года назад
Good luck on getting Kecleon. Its a tough one for sure. If you want a method of leveling a bit faster: check the mission board for "golden chamber" missions. Especially relatively early in a dungeon. Save the game before going in. Grab the 2 treasure chests in the golden chamber (need something to cross water) and before saving again, open them. Every chest is a 1/8 chance to be a golden seed. If you get 0, reset back to the save. Every golden seed is instant 5 lvl ups so you can get to lvl 100 with just a few
@HermitTFG
@HermitTFG 3 года назад
@@Crrool I heard about golden seeds but didn’t know that it raised by 5 levels! Thanks frickin crazy, will definitely do that. Whenever I make my video I’ll make sure to shout you out for the tip :)
@HermitTFG
@HermitTFG 3 года назад
I was considering of getting every single item in the game as well. Also I’m playing in sky not time. Have beaten time before though. I’m assuming sky has more items but probably not much besides gummi stuff
@Crrool
@Crrool 3 года назад
Good luck on the grind. Hope you'll get lucky and get those golden seeds fast. Sky has a bit more content then Time, but the differences are generally small. I've never played Sky though so I wouldn't know them in much detail.
@HermitTFG
@HermitTFG 3 года назад
@@Crrool I recommend it, you get to see when grovyle and dusknoir go back to the future. Won’t spoil, just really good. The other extra stories and the shaymin ark are also really good
@smashssf2_ssbc15
@smashssf2_ssbc15 3 года назад
Happy to have a Pichu in Pokemon Mystery Dungeon
@aikou2886
@aikou2886 3 года назад
Thank you algorythm, you finally recommended something that was both useful and enjoyable.
@TJ_zz7264zz
@TJ_zz7264zz 3 года назад
Great video. Makes me want to play my DS again
@Crrool
@Crrool 3 года назад
Glad to hear you enjoyed it
@Flash_Fire36
@Flash_Fire36 3 года назад
I remember dealing with unknown at that after game, story moment. And kinda annoying because of certain unknown being hard to get. It took a while for that to clear.
@user_Z-
@user_Z- 3 года назад
thank you crrool really enjoyed this video
@rockmanzeroconfused2509
@rockmanzeroconfused2509 3 года назад
And Sky. Top 10 Pokemon that I'm not doing a recruit em all challenge. Instead, I'll take which Pokemon in Non Level Resetting dungeons. And rank them. Edit: Kyogre was gotten in Sky in Bottomless Sea.
@williamfrieden1
@williamfrieden1 2 года назад
Great video, yeah, they are hard to recruit, keep it up!
@henk8105
@henk8105 3 года назад
Super interesting video!
@alduintheanti-dragonborn
@alduintheanti-dragonborn 11 месяцев назад
Hilariously enough I got Pichu as an egg from a Poochyena that gave it to me after drinking at Spinda's cafe.
@omegaslash777
@omegaslash777 Год назад
Random story: Prior to September 2019, for the longest time, I've been wanting to recruit Kecleon for so long that no matter how many attempts that I've tried, not once, did I ever get lucky enough, until one day, I was looking for both recruiting other Pokemon and evolution stones, eventually finding the stones in a Kecleon shop, also deciding to steal too for shits and giggles, only for one wanting to join my team lol
@comics4556
@comics4556 3 года назад
Ayy kecleon my favorite btw nice vid😁👍
@mhx5071
@mhx5071 3 года назад
Try playing the balance hack Explorers of Alpha, it has a ton of QoL features from newer games, a higher difficulty curve and Arceus is in the game and recruitable. A Recruit Em All would probably be hellish in that game though since your expected to be level 100 by the end of the main game.
@RyanRogersJSR
@RyanRogersJSR Год назад
Wait a second these videos are so cool, you remind me of freezai except with speed running!
@edgelord8337
@edgelord8337 3 года назад
Getting kecleon is like finding playing the lottery ticket and winning 1000 times.
@astrohasnojams2209
@astrohasnojams2209 Год назад
I have been trying for literal years to recruit darkrai, for me he’s been the toughest! I’d love to attempt to get a kecleon someday :)
@isenokami7810
@isenokami7810 Год назад
Certainly feel you there. Low as hell recruit rate, and having ghost movement can potentially take recruit boosters out of the picture if you need the Mobile Scarf to even reach him.
@zazazakii
@zazazakii Год назад
You have to use an escape orb every time it shows up in the Miracle Sea 3 - wear a gold mask and have a mystery part and the recruiting chance is 2% I got him after 20 tries
@oro6399
@oro6399 3 года назад
groudon’s dungeon is only 10 floors and I had to clear the level 4 TIMES to recruit it, can’t even imagine trying to get kyogre after 50 floors
@informernillson4617
@informernillson4617 3 года назад
I’m still trying to recruit most of these Pokémon (Kyogre is the only legendary I don’t have). Even with the leader being Lv. 100 with a Golden Mask, it’s still really tough to recruit some of them. I want to recruit everything for the sake of completion, even though you get nothing for it. Not to mention I want to start a completely new game to experience the story as an adult. I’ve had the same save file for nearly 10 years and I want to use different starters this time around.
@Crrool
@Crrool 3 года назад
For what it's worth, Kyogre is a flat 50% every time you fight it. It doesn't change with Golden Mask or level or anything. This means I usually just go with something that will get me through the dungeon as fast as possible so I have the best chance to get it. I use an Infernape with Tight Belt or Weather Band (belt on most floors, Band on weather floors) and a fighting gem in the bag. Gives me double movement speed and makes rushing the dungeon reasonably easy. Hope that helps you, but unless you get really unlucky it shouldn't take too much time to obtain. Granted, I had a similar recruit (Articuno) take 8 tries last time I ran Recruit 'em All. Also a flat 50%, but sometimes you just get unlucky
@Manticorpse
@Manticorpse 3 года назад
I have never heard of the game or anything of the Maystery Dungeon series but Im happy RU-vid randomly recommended it to me :D It looks pretty fun to play might ckecke it out later idk.
@Crrool
@Crrool 3 года назад
All I can say is I highly recommend it. Still easily my favorite Pokémon game in the series. Great story, cool characters, and just a really fun twist on the series as a whole :D
@thomaspiekos3440
@thomaspiekos3440 3 года назад
Buy one! You need them! 😅
@clintwaki6936
@clintwaki6936 2 года назад
I remember trying for hours as a kid to recruit Dusknoir in spatial rift in EOD. I never got him, and I actually got Dialga to lv.100 during my grind.
@Crrool
@Crrool 2 года назад
Dusknoir is such a pain. Sometimes it's super easy, barely an inconvenience. Other times it's just aweful
@TheRedScizor
@TheRedScizor 3 года назад
is there a way to get stuff like that fighting gem in Sky without wondermail?
@Crrool
@Crrool 3 года назад
You can get it through Croagunk's Swap Shop. For more details I'll refer you to bulbapedia: bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Exclusive_item
@JeremyB381
@JeremyB381 3 года назад
It's times like this I'm glad I don't care about getting everyone, just the ones I want.
@Conches285
@Conches285 3 года назад
Would Darkrai be an honorable mention? You have to have a special item with you for it to spawn, you have to have a mon of a higher level, it has a very low recruitment rate, AND if you it doesn’t join your time after defeating it, you restart the dungeon over again. It took me way too long to recruit one for myself.
@Crrool
@Crrool 3 года назад
Yeah, Darkrai definitely deserves the honorable mention. Its a tough recruit. Not the worst in the game, but certainly not easy
@toolatetothestory
@toolatetothestory 2 года назад
@@Crrool To be fair, makes sense as the baddest bad guy of the game
@CritikalJari
@CritikalJari 3 года назад
Oh shit een Nederlander crazy, probably one of my favourite games, cool pkm mystery dungeon content je hebt een subscriber
@maesetabit
@maesetabit 3 года назад
I recruited keckleon as altaria and let me tell you the wall thing was the best thing you could have done. I wish i knew before xd
@TheMike0088
@TheMike0088 3 года назад
Is the Kecleon at least worth it, or is it nerfed from the monstrosity that fights you when you dare steal from it?
@Crrool
@Crrool 3 года назад
I've seen some people mention it's good, but I have never used one myself to be honest
@thomaspiekos3440
@thomaspiekos3440 3 года назад
It's ability is quite good in explorers of sky. Attacks are not bad, good coverage. Stats are OK If I remember correctly it can be recruited at level one🤔🙄
@bend7726
@bend7726 2 года назад
When I played this as a kid I managed to somehow hatch a bronzong from an egg. I was shocked to say the least that it was even possible 😅 definitely go for egg missions you never know what you'll get
@Crrool
@Crrool 2 года назад
Egg missions are unfortunately very unreliable for a speedrun setting. Odds are you get super lucky and find something rare, but more likely than not you end up spending a decent amount of time to get something you don't need. Certainly fun in a casual setting though, but sadly too unreliable for a speedrun
@Arcryoshi
@Arcryoshi 2 года назад
I got a question regarding the mobile orb. I now got 491 Pokémon in Explorers of Sky with obviously Arceus missing and Kecleon. I wanted to use your strat because the idea behind it is great and I already got the right Pokémon (Mew) with Fast Friend and it's even Level 100 because I gained so many Exp while recruiting everything which was missing :D But where do I find the orb? I got so many rare items and items in general that I'm steadily around ~900/1000 items but I don't have a single one :( I even played through Zero Isle South now because I read you can find them there but nothing... At least I got a full adventure log in main menu now
@Crrool
@Crrool 2 года назад
The easiest place to get the Mobile Orb would be during the future sequence. Now, obviously, that isn't an option anymore, so there are 2 alternative options: 1. Wondermail it in; by far the fastest and easiest method. Just google for a WM generator 2. Spacial Rift; The odds are fairly low, but each orb spawned in Spacial Rift has a very low chance of being a Mobile Orb (2.33% for every orb that spawned). That's your best bet.
@Arcryoshi
@Arcryoshi 2 года назад
@@Crrool Thx! I often try to avoid the wonder mail generators because for me they are close to cheating (I mean, I could just use them to get every Pokémon instead of spending time) but after I wrote the question I just wondermailed it in because it's just an item and in this case I don't really care... I also already got Kecleon 1/2 hours ago :D It took me only around 200 in Mt. Horn and I'm very thankful for that. Now I finished my quest also in MD2 May I also ask where you get your information from? I was so glad to find a guide about all the spawn rates in every dungeon but information like how often which item in which dungeon spawns or something like that is completely new to me
@Crrool
@Crrool 2 года назад
Gamefaqs has a few guides which are basically just numbers sourced from the games code. It has spawn %'s down to 2 decimals and from what I've been able to tell in recruit 'em alls they are super accurate. Goes for both pokemon spawns and item spawns. Over the course of ~5 different recruit 'em alls I've learned to make good use of those to determine where my odds would be slightly better/worse Edit: the strategies I use I get from speedrun.com. MozzarellaCheez has a very in-depth guide on these runs. He did most of the routing for the recruit 'em alls (and he recently beat the world record on the category of this video)
@shiroshinigami239
@shiroshinigami239 3 года назад
Ok you have to admit PMD Blue/Red has way harder Pokemon to recruit (Chansey, Ponyta, Eccegute, Pidgey, Snorlax, Clamperl, Relicanth, Chinchou, the Fossils, Walrein, Despotar, Celebi, Jirachi, Dragonite, Deoxys, Mew and Kecleon is also even harder to get in Blue/Red)
@Crrool
@Crrool 3 года назад
Oh absolutely, the Blue Rescue Team recruit 'em all is far worse then Explorers, not in the least because you have to grind out every evolution which you dont really need to do in Explorers. The only big advantage you have in Red/Blue is being able to wish pokemon in. It's slow, but at about 1 pokemon per 45 minutes it makes some Pokemon much less painful (like Kecleon). Really that's just a small advantage in comparison though
@sammi-qg9nj
@sammi-qg9nj 3 года назад
shoutouts to mew in pokemon mystery dungeon dx who i still somehow don't have after killing like 10 -15 times with a friend ribbon and inviting orb, who has a 1% spawnrate only in certain floors of a 100 layer dunegon...
@aldobarca6890
@aldobarca6890 3 года назад
In my opinion also darkray could be on the list easily he is so scary and so hard to recruit
@Crrool
@Crrool 3 года назад
Agreed. The one advantage of darkrai is he's easy to find and you can have all the usual bonusses. He can still be a pain, but once you're lvl 100 he has ok odds of joining you (and luckily he's far weaker then during the initial fight)
@15minutegaming32
@15minutegaming32 3 года назад
@@Crrool I thought the slabs are hard to get.
@Lux_the_Lost
@Lux_the_Lost 3 года назад
@@15minutegaming32 They are, but once you have them Darkrai is USUALLY an easy find - especially given that there are multiple places he can show up, so you get to pick where to go. The only real obstacle is that he can travel through walls and his recruit rate is kinda low-ish (though nowhere NEAR as low as Kecleon's). You can still get him fairly reliably with the right preparation. He spawns in the following places: ~ Mystifying Forest (13F) ~ Lower Crevice Cave (B2F) ~ Miracle Sea (B3F) ~ Mt. Travail (17F), or ~ Spacial Rift (B14F) ... which is kind of ironic, given how he was defeated.
@hesterfranks9716
@hesterfranks9716 3 года назад
@@Lux_the_Lost Miracle Sea B3F is where I recruited him, it's just such an easy place to get to
@celebibi4360
@celebibi4360 3 года назад
Out of curiosity once you recruit every Pokémon in the game do you get any sort of acknowledgement/ statue/ rewards or something?
@Crrool
@Crrool 3 года назад
There is not sadly
@celebibi4360
@celebibi4360 3 года назад
Aww man what a shame😪
@HeavyBirb
@HeavyBirb 3 года назад
jirachi was the toughest one for me, it took like a week just to get her from marowak dojo
@Crrool
@Crrool 3 года назад
Jirachi is aweful for sure. Really should have been on the list tbh (I kinda forgot Jirachi existed when I made the list XD)
@angrypicture6155
@angrypicture6155 Год назад
I expected Darkrai somewhere, but I guess that just proves how little I know about the recruit all category ^^'
@spiroskourtidis134
@spiroskourtidis134 Год назад
Nice vid but how do you use mobile scarf and gold mask at the same time?
@Crrool
@Crrool Год назад
Its not a mobile scarf, its a mobile orb. Only works for one floor, but keeps working so long as you are still on that floor
@spiroskourtidis134
@spiroskourtidis134 Год назад
@@Crrool Thanks man🤝🏽
@Kali_Krause
@Kali_Krause 3 года назад
I got really lucky on the Pichu and Kyorge :)
@tb3411
@tb3411 3 года назад
That #1 was so obvious but I cannot complain about it.
@meto9552
@meto9552 3 года назад
Idk what the odds are but I got a Kecleon the very first time I tried to recruit one which absolutely boggled my mind. All the mental preparation and the memories from the blue and red rescue team games for nothing. I'll never be that lucky again in anything I touch
@Crrool
@Crrool 3 года назад
The odds of a single Kecleon joining are 0.1%. With how often they spawn it's pretty quick to get a number of kills very quickly though
@meto9552
@meto9552 3 года назад
@@Crrool So I got it first try on a Kecleon with 0.1%. Isn't that even lower than Blue and Red Rescue Team? I think their rates were 0.5% at best, right?
@Crrool
@Crrool 3 года назад
@@meto9552 I think it was the same in Red/Blue, but then I would usually just wish cave it in in Red/Blue because that'd be faster
@slevinchannel7589
@slevinchannel7589 3 года назад
More of this Game!!!
@GamingMasterAnthony
@GamingMasterAnthony 2 месяца назад
So I’ve just been using up all of my recruiting luck with the legendarys. That explains why I can never recruit anyone in the legend dungeons. (Beat them they join. Always thought it was guaranteed for them to join after you beat them)
@ghostlyfieldclub2930
@ghostlyfieldclub2930 2 месяца назад
Fantastic video, yet my brain hurt every time I heard "catch rate" in PMD
@gameking647
@gameking647 3 года назад
I'm late to the video but how does this compare to explorers of darkness/sky? Is there a reason to run this game instead? Awesome video
@Crrool
@Crrool 3 года назад
Darkness is essentially the same. The only difference between time and darkness are the items that spawn and some minor differences in version exclusives (which is irrelevant to this since you have to wondermail those in anyway) Sky is a little bit different and there might be some pokemon that are easier in sky. One good example is Jirachi (not on this list but it shouldve been). Most of this list still holds true for Sky as well though.
@gameking647
@gameking647 3 года назад
@@Crrool thank you for the detailed response!
@christophewakim3587
@christophewakim3587 3 года назад
I played this game 2 years ago when I was 15 and I cried idk why but it hurts the feelings a lot. 💔😢😭😓
@Crrool
@Crrool 3 года назад
Yeah, I think a lot of us experienced that at the end of Explorers of Time/Darkness/Sky
@ninjachihuahua4843
@ninjachihuahua4843 Год назад
been a while since ive come across a PMD youtuber with rep
@derpnumbers
@derpnumbers 3 года назад
For kyogre can't you save in the middle of the dungeon and kill it in different ways for a different result?
@Crrool
@Crrool 3 года назад
Not in this game at least, this game doesn't have a midpoint (savepoint in the middle of a dungeon). For dungeons with a midpoint that is indeed possible
@derpnumbers
@derpnumbers 3 года назад
Well no, you can always click “Rest” in any dungeon, no? Or is that just explorers of sky
@amazingapple6964
@amazingapple6964 2 месяца назад
I save scummed on the floor right before rayquaza so that I don't have to go through the entire dungeon again
@kittensteaparty
@kittensteaparty Год назад
For Abomasnow, wouldn't it be easier/make sense to have someone else in the party with rain dance or sunny day?
@Crrool
@Crrool Год назад
While that would solve the issue, it would only solve it temporarily. Rain dance and sunny day only last a short while so you'll run out of PP after a few floors at most
@tr4sh37
@tr4sh37 3 года назад
Question: Don't most of these Pokemon have a chance of being hatched? Or are they not hatchable? I don't really know the Egg mechanic of Explorers well.
@Crrool
@Crrool 3 года назад
Im honestly not very familiar with egg mechanics either. I think the eggs you get have a random hatch though so it isn't really ever worth it over actually recruiting something. You could get lucky ofcourse, but that counts for most things anyway
@tr4sh37
@tr4sh37 3 года назад
@@Crrool Yeah sounds about right. I've heard the eggs you get from missions are always a species or type of Pokemon found in the dungeon that you completed the mission on. And for the eggs you get through Spinda Cafe (Sky only) are always randomized. Though I can't confirm since it's been years since I've played Explorers haha.
@GBA-049
@GBA-049 Год назад
I remember how painful it was for me to recruit Dusknoir in Spacial Rift
@chancecarlson2023
@chancecarlson2023 3 года назад
Wait what about darkrai? Isn't he like a negative percent until you get the golden mask?
@Crrool
@Crrool 3 года назад
Darkrai is tough, I just find these worse. The advantage of Darkrai is he's guarenteed to spawn on specific floors and he has a few easy floors he spawns on (one dungeon its, like, floor 3 or something) so grinding the recruit is very doable
@swampy725
@swampy725 2 года назад
3:54 Question unrelated to recuitment, WTH is the "took a deep breath" thing that appears every floor
@Crrool
@Crrool 2 года назад
It's an IQ skill some pokemon get that allow you to automatically restore 1 pp on a random move at the start of every floor
@reishinsama
@reishinsama 3 года назад
Fun fact I actually recruited keckleon on my first ever playtrough of blue rescue team when I was a kid Never succeeded ever again lol And also not the same game but, can you recruit evolved pokémon in blue rescue team too ? I ever thought it was impossible.
@Crrool
@Crrool 3 года назад
Most evolved Pokémon aren't recruitable in Blue Rescue Team. If I recall there are a super small handful of exceptions, but they are rare if anything. The Blue Rescue Team Recruit 'em All speedrun as a result has a day and a half of just level grinding as a result (at least the one without RNG manip). For the worst ones we just use Wish cave though, since that's a good back-up for the final few Pokémon.
@reishinsama
@reishinsama 3 года назад
@@Crrool Thank you for the answer ^^
@Cupshadow
@Cupshadow 3 года назад
The hardest recruit em all imo is blue rescue team. I am not saying explorers is easy though. Despite there are few upgrade from rescue team.
@Crrool
@Crrool 3 года назад
@@Cupshadow It really is. I've only done BRT Recruit 'em All once and Explorers probably 5 times or so. The amount of grinding necessary is just ridiculous. The one upside of BRT is having Wish Cave, so any Pokémon that would take over 45 minutes on average to get you can get through there, but that's hardly a redeeming quality here.
@isenokami7810
@isenokami7810 Год назад
I find Porygon to be the dumbest Pokémon to recruit (and Lunatone I guess). Stuff only being in Spatial Rift is fine in my opinion, but having some only appear past the checkpoint, aka the point where the game will kick you out if you were there on missions, is utterly asinine. On the other hand, it let me cheese not only them, but Latios, given he spawns down there with the Slab or Part. Save at the checkpoint, reset if you fail, you just go right back to the checkpoint for another round. I forget if Escape Orbs in DSR will just bring you back to the checkpoint, but if so, that just lets you go back and save any of the five you got that round before going again.
@shawnalvarado1659
@shawnalvarado1659 3 года назад
I ended up recruiting Lunatone while in the main story line when I got to temporal tower. Then I had to take him with me to beat dialga🤷‍♂️.
@pinguchat12
@pinguchat12 3 года назад
impossible, you can't recruit in temporal tower
@Jawbreaker8k
@Jawbreaker8k 3 года назад
One of my friend has recruited a kecleon in Pokémon mystery dungeon, explorers of sky.
@Crrool
@Crrool 3 года назад
It's the same odds in Sky, so thats impressive
@luigilinkk
@luigilinkk 3 года назад
Where you find those spawn percentages? I can't find them
@Crrool
@Crrool 3 года назад
This is what I use. Its for sky, but it holds out for time as well. gamefaqs.gamespot.com/ds/955859-pokemon-mystery-dungeon-explorers-of-sky/faqs/58067
@luigilinkk
@luigilinkk 3 года назад
@@Crrool wow, thank you! I didn't expect a reply so soon, I want to try this challenge and this'll help a lot!
@zweettarts3769
@zweettarts3769 3 года назад
I thought I was the only one who played this game
@Crrool
@Crrool 3 года назад
You'd be surprised how popular mystery dungeon still is
@bramt2000
@bramt2000 3 года назад
When I played this game when I was little I never really used the wonder mail feature. What does it do?
@Crrool
@Crrool 3 года назад
Using wondermail codes you can basically get any mission you'd want. The code has which pokemon, dungeon, sort of mission and most importantly what reward you get for completing it
@bramt2000
@bramt2000 3 года назад
@@Crrool ah cool, so people used to do quests with super rare items and such?
@Crrool
@Crrool 3 года назад
We use it to get easy access to useful items like getting the golden mask early on and spawning in evolution items
@SavvyKitten666
@SavvyKitten666 3 года назад
I play mystery dungeon sky. Of all the pokemon i can't seem to get so far but need is Charmander. That way I can finish my team of Lyrea the Eevee, Lazarus the Riolu, Loki the Shinx, and hopefully a charmander named Luka.
@Crrool
@Crrool 3 года назад
Charmander isn't available until deep into the postgame sadly. I think it's the dungeon where you fight the post-game final boss. So yeah, if you're hoping to get one for your story playthrough I'm sorry to have to disappoint you.
@SavvyKitten666
@SavvyKitten666 3 года назад
@@Crrool I've already completed the main story so I don't really mind much about receiving charmander so late. I just wasn't really sure if I could even get him since I'd read that he was only available as a starter or through wondermail. But I'm glad that there's at least a chance that I can finish my team
@Crrool
@Crrool 3 года назад
@@SavvyKitten666 He is obtainable. The spawn rate is low, so it may take some tries to get it (with it spawning at about a 2% rate) and it doesn't help that the floors he does spawn on can have sandstorm (which kills Charmander after a bit of time). Luckily its recruit chance is decently high when you find it. It's in Dark Crater floor 1-10 (best odds on floor 1 and 2 at just over 3%)
@SavvyKitten666
@SavvyKitten666 3 года назад
@@Crrool awesome, thank you. Now I just have to get there😅 may take a little time but now that I have more hope that I can do it😊 thank you
@SavvyKitten666
@SavvyKitten666 3 года назад
@@Crrool took me about 15 minutes of scrolling to find this comment notification so I can tell you the amazing news. I got my charmander! I opted for retrying wonder mail, it didn't work last time because somewhere my game Is actually the European version. So I needed separate wonder codes.😊
@clintwaki6936
@clintwaki6936 2 года назад
I’m surprised Giratina wasn’t on this list. I was able to get Rayquaza back in the day since his dungeon was just long and not that hard. However the Giratina dungeon has so many earthquake and earth power mons that mess you up. I don’t think I’ve ever recruited Giratina.
@Crrool
@Crrool 2 года назад
Personally I didn't really struggle with either dungeon. By the time I go for those recruits I'm fully evolved and lvl 100 with plenty of items to get me through just about every situation. At that point I struggle more with Rayquaza because of the dungeon length (and hunger being a thing)
@Anthonyvideogame
@Anthonyvideogame 3 года назад
I mean of course number one is Kecleon lol.
@Crrool
@Crrool 3 года назад
Ofcourse, would've been weird if it wasn't nr 1 XD
@JohnSmith-lh3ht
@JohnSmith-lh3ht Год назад
Rotom is kinda hard to recruit. Low recruit rate, only really recruitable on a few floors of one dungeon, and hides a lot. Like Darkrai but not as bad.
@MrCrossmoss
@MrCrossmoss Год назад
I think is not even possible to get the version exclusive legendary/mythical from time and darkness respectively. Im talking about mewtwo and celebi. Since theres no team trading or wondermail generator that can replicate the wi fi one.
@Crrool
@Crrool 11 месяцев назад
Correct. I didn't include them since the speedrun doesnt require them for that very reason. The obtainable one isn't too bad though
@easternwoyer3876
@easternwoyer3876 2 года назад
In blue mystery dungeon i got keckleon first try after getting the friend scarf and when i did i didn't even know it was needed to get keckleon
@Crrool
@Crrool 2 года назад
That's very lucky. Just like in explorers, kec is 0.1% in blue rescue team (w/ scarf equipped). Without scarf it's an impossible recruit
@Duskool
@Duskool 3 года назад
Now i feel bad for rejecting all those Bronzor that wanted to join my team when i go to Spacial Rift. I do plan on getting one via egg, so dunno how difficult that'd be
@Crrool
@Crrool 3 года назад
I have very little experience with eggs tbh, so I wouldn't really know what that would be like
@fruitful6139
@fruitful6139 2 года назад
i remember on my old save file, i tried to recuit Wailord many times, but failed! (and yes i had the golden mask)
@Crrool
@Crrool 2 года назад
Wailors sucks to recruit, no doubt
@cyxx414
@cyxx414 4 месяца назад
Trying to resist the urge to start a new file on eos instead of concentrating on 100% dx i keep starting new files and all the games i wanna complete get put on the bench for ever aghh
@inklingsquid4688
@inklingsquid4688 6 месяцев назад
11:37 me who has explorers of sky on my Wii u virtual console so I can just save state before defeating him then resetting if I don’t get him
@darkbegin
@darkbegin 3 года назад
What about Mind Reader move if we use it against Keckleon before to kill him/her?
@Crrool
@Crrool 3 года назад
It might help, but would also cost a moveslot and those are decently precious when killing hundreds of Kecleon. I dont think the added accuracy is that worthwhile tbh
@darkbegin
@darkbegin 3 года назад
@@Crrool it added full accuracy in the red rescue team game I saw a tutorial. If you kill Keckleon by walk-through it's good enough
@spiritbaki108
@spiritbaki108 Год назад
I remember having an unown ! on my child game
@polishedrelish
@polishedrelish 11 месяцев назад
Why didn't you do this in sky? Is this list any different in that game?
@Crrool
@Crrool 11 месяцев назад
It's mostly the same list. I don't have Sky (and by extension have only ever done this in Time), so I opted to stick to the one I have done a recruit 'em all for
@polishedrelish
@polishedrelish 11 месяцев назад
@@Crrool I see. I always find it interesting when people 100% non-definitive versions of games. Congrats!
@paladin8052
@paladin8052 Год назад
I have a job restricted to me being accompanied by a steel Pokémon. Where can I recruit one?
@Crrool
@Crrool Год назад
Magnezone is very common in Spacial Rift, that's a fairly easy one that's pretty good. Alternatively you can redo the final dungeon through Lapras at the beach for Dialga. If you need one earlier, Northern Desert is the first one to have steel types since Aron spawns there
@isthisatitleforayoutubecha3035
@isthisatitleforayoutubecha3035 2 года назад
I heard Kecleon just goes to level 30 when you recruit him but he still has max stats or something?
@Crrool
@Crrool 2 года назад
Admittedly I don't actually know. While I've recruited him a few times, I never proceeded to check the stats. From what I've heard they're nothing amazing, but I cant really confirm that one way or another right now
@swampy725
@swampy725 2 года назад
There should be a category where you don't have to get Kekleon
@beanceline
@beanceline 2 года назад
i remember being a kid and using an infinite health cheat so i could recruit kecleon in team blue. when i finally got it my game froze.
@Crrool
@Crrool 2 года назад
That's rough. Even with an infinite health cheat that recruit is a pain
@chilup2007
@chilup2007 3 года назад
Kecleon HAD to be number 1. No debate about that!
@hugobetrugo5260
@hugobetrugo5260 Год назад
I find it really annoying that the a certain iq group is needed to recruit caclon, makes it so much work if you don't have the right starter. Which, since it's Chikorita, is never for me
@fabiol1107
@fabiol1107 4 месяца назад
What about dusknoir in the spacial rift?
@Crrool
@Crrool 4 месяца назад
Because there are so many really hard recruits in Spacial Rift and because Dusknoir is a guaranteed spawn in my experience you'll always get him before you'd have to grind for it
@diegoperalta6643
@diegoperalta6643 3 года назад
What iq skill is that when you “take a deep breath”, and what does it do??
@Crrool
@Crrool 3 года назад
The "takes a deep breath" restores 1 random powerpoint at the start of every floor. Its called "deep breather" (190 IQ for Pokemon in the B, E, H and J IQ groups)
@diegoperalta6643
@diegoperalta6643 3 года назад
@@Crrool thanks, i don’t know much about iq groups
@Tarx_96
@Tarx_96 3 года назад
Nice video, have you recruited em’ all?
@Crrool
@Crrool 3 года назад
I have, multiple times. I currently hold the speedrun World Record for Recruit 'em All for this game (both with and without wondermail)
@Tarx_96
@Tarx_96 3 года назад
@@Crrool Great!!!
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