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Interesting topic proposition. Would love to see their opinion on that

I call it Bugmin 😅

I just switched from a fenix 5s I’ve been using for the last close to 7 years and still actually loved but really wanted the ability to leave my phone behind. I actually thought I was going to end up wearing two watches (i got the Apple Watch 9 not ultra) so I planed to continue to use my Garmin to run and Apple Watch to replace phone. For fun I wanted to run them side by side for a few runs just to compare. I gave up my Garmin in 3 days…. The interface while running like starting and stopping isn’t as great as Garmin and yes I have to charge it every day and no it doesn’t have body battery but the heart rate data is more accurate and distance and pace are nearly identical. An app I’ve found people use for the recovery data.. kind of looks like whoop/garmin info is Athlytic. Also I find that having hrv which my garmin didn’t have.. maybe yours does being one generation newer.. but that’s the data they’re using so more accurate sleep, hrv, more accurate heart rate, more accurate VO2 max, hear rate recovery, you have everything you need to understand fitness level and recovery, but sounds like this Athlytic app will pull everything together for you. The battery is a fair issue- I regret now getting the 9 and if I had any idea I would have given up my garmin after a decade of dedicated garmin use I would have gone right for the ultra.. I chose not to because I thought I wouldn’t give up my garmin and it’s very big on my wrist.

@@notyouraveragevegan2677 thanks for the detailed response. My F6 does have HRV and agree with you about its importance. I’ve seen through various illnesses how HRV is a good marker of recovery, same with body battery. You mention that your F5 is 7 years old which is another reason I want to stay with Garmin because of the tiny battery in an Apple Watch the device is likely to be useless within 3 years. Don’t get me wrong, I’d like an Apple Watch, they definitely have plus points. I’ll probably wait to see what they announce in September before making a decision on my next watch

@@MattSwain1the longevity is a great point! I definitely thought that too, Apple will never last that long. I would definitely have waited until September but I just put a new fall marathon on the calendar and it’s been a few years since I’ve done a full and so I was eager to have the connectivity for this round of training. That’s where I went wrong though, not thinking I would give up my Garmin so I didn’t go with the ultra and now the battery definitely isn’t going to be enough for the long training runs so I’m going to have to make a decision at some point too. Go back to two watches or get the ultra. I really wish Garmin would give us real lte capabilities not just for emergency calls but they seem to have taken a firm stance.

Agree. If Garmin did something similar that was accurate, I would buy it in a heartbeat

I wonder if they were wearing pre-release watches...

My first look should be out later this week! (Des)

Trimp,ctl and atl style training and recovery metrics would be nice. I’ve long suspected that a 24hour hrTss fed into a performance management system would give a TSB that is pretty close the usefulness people are looking for with HRV.

@@sillydillybar Whomp, there it is: kinda trimp, CTlLand ATL based training effect stuff. Of course completely bungled up, but still...

I believe he’s done a ride up that mountain before on the channel.

That’s a real background

They already do all this data today in their wearables.

@@thefitfile I guess my impression of the Whoop is that it's not just the data, but the transformation into the higher level metrics, like sleep performance %, "recovery" %, and "strain", which to me seem hokey. I don't have one. I was under the impression that Polar doesn't do those higher level metrics. I don't have one of those either. Just seemed like they glossed over those things. I mean, if the ratings are relatively accurate, then probably they are very useful, but seems like the reviews are mixed. Sorry if I am mistaken.