I think this is mostly what it is, people do it with any heavy clothes. It’s nice to have some of that weight off you, even if it’s just for a couple seconds
I saw many soldiers in the war zone do the same thing. Sometimes it's because you're carrying so much weight on it, that it temporarily eases the strain on your shoulder. And in cold weather, it kept my fingers warm.
Alternatively to being in a cold area and it warms your fingers, in warm areas doing that lets the sweat underneath get hit with a tiny gust of air and it feels like heaven(not military I just have used similar vests)
As an ex soldier I can confirm: when wearing body armor, it's comfortable to hold your vest. Especially in hot areas, you can hold your vest away from your body slightly to allow for more airflow.
@@splintergectornathan9045Anyone wearing a vest will naturally do that without even thinking about it, shit is hot and uncomfortable. Letting your chest air out a bit feels nice. It's almost like an itch.
My PD says they do this so their hands aren’t hovering over the weapons. Makes you more approachable, because even just passive hands floating over a gun can cause peoples’ anxiety to spike
@@litoaykiu That's the thing though, gear that hangs off the sides, as well as the shoulder hole, would prevent our hands from being comfortably in our pockets. And also, we are not allowed, as Marines or Soldiers, to walk around with our hands in our pockets. And that fucking sucks! lol
@@SuicidePar Your reaction time is way slower with hands in your pockets or your comfortable position plus an easy target for muggers. If someone wants to be more comfortable it can be done without gear or at home on a couch; in order to be natural at keeping your hand or feet at the correct positions, you have to drill the habit into yourself that normal comfortable becomes uncomfortable.
@@SuicidePar We called putting hands in pockets wearing Air Force Gloves. I still hear a DI yelling at recruits "what are you hands doing with your hands in pockets, what ya playing with in there? what are you in the Air Force? We don't allow soldiers to wear Air Force Gloves" And that was 30+ years ago for me. Also same here, before we got the vests, we had the old LCE suspenders and a lot of guys would rest arms inside suspenders above pistol belt. The ammo pouches made a bit of spot to rest arms.
Having worn pads in highschool, then plate carrier with my marines, I wanted to argue about the difference. But after remembering my time in pads, ya it's 99% true. The 1% difference is plate carrier can be wayyyy more comfy if you set it up right. Like I had my mag pouches sit slightly offset at an angle so I could use them as an arm rest. Little things like that can help a lot after rucking several miles or after busting your ass in a good pt session. Not to mention it is better at retaining heat.
Really? I always viewed it as a power position like they’re taking up a stance to dominate you. Also conveniently can cover their name tag when it’s a douchy cop. It’s always just looked super cocky to me
@@xeric1953 how do you find resting hands completely away from there holster/duty belt a power position when it’s arguably one of the most vulnerable position a cop can put themselves in. I always viewed it as “I don’t know what to do with my hands right now”
As a military man I second this. With all the stuff we had on our vests or this case his belt sharp edges are a thing so having a supported place to put your hand is awesome, also opens the vest up for air circulation, HOPE THIS HELPS!
On top of that if you’re an MP (military police) you get yelled at and usually gotta drop on your face for everytime your hands are in your pockets so you learn to “explore your options” lmfao.
@@Jesus_is_THE_king_of_kings Army for me. Went to fort leonardwood or better known as fort lost in the woods for basic training and home of the MP’s lol.
Yep, anyone who wears vests know about this. It's so comfortable. Plus it will warm your hands when it's cold or give more fresh air to your chest when it's hot
I'm a former police officer, I use to pull it away from my chest. Because you wear them tight to protect your sides. If you don't then you won't have any protection. It will cause you to hyperventilate if you don't.
Good answer. Body armor is heavy, extremely hot, and does not breathe. Even worse with the SAPI plates inserted. Extra bulk, some extra weight, and even less breathability. In Iraq, I held the collar of my vest and would pull it slightly away from my chest to get some fresh air in there every so often to cool the pooling sweat. Wearing it for 8-15 hours out of the day gets uncomfortable so any amount of comfort you can get is a huge relief. It’s not a power stance, not preparing for a fight, or a way to remind people you have gear.. just comfort.
It's also a good habit to keep your hands from going into your pockets ( which is a BAD habit.) It keeps your hands in a good place to move fast and always be ready. Thank you for all you do!
I wore a weighted vest for the first time the other day while hiking. I was shocked at how my hands naturally wanted to rest in the collar lol. It's definitely just the default position you feel comfortable
It's a nice, comfortable resting spot. Also, if you give it a slight tug from that resting position, you get some nice airflow going. Those vest really do make you feel hot, especially in the summer.
It's called giving yourself a hug. They do this because they are afraid of everything including acorns and 10 year old girls, this is why they are constantly recorded doing excessive force, because they are like animals that have been cornered.
Yeah... I've got a couple questions. One: Where in your pants do you stick your hands? O.o any... Repetitive movements while you're getting.... Comfortable? o.O
@@VeraTepes Pockets exist, and um… Having your hands in your pockets are more comfortable than having it on the side of you, trust me, i’ve done that a lot in school
Working on the water we wear life jackets a lot and we all hold onto our life jackets or put our arms in them for comfort. You hardly think about it. It’s somewhere to hang your arms lol
As a sailing dinghy instructor you're always told never to do that due to having hands free for if you trip over but it's always just too damn comfortable to care 😂
It's crazy how time flies..... Just 17 years ago, this man played Freddie on iCarly, now he's serving the community as a police officer. Good job, Nathan!
Finally someone said it, I remember someone asked me a similar question about resting your hand near your weapon but not grabbing or holding it. I think people don't understand it uncomfortable weird and awkward just to have your hand straight down to your side. I learned that while I was a Marine Security Guard.
I worked with a guy who was in Security Forces. He never realized how similar hospitals (especially larger ones that handle psych) are to the job he did while he was in until he worked here lol.
Yup, as a former MP I can personally approve this. Especially the times when it's cold its really comfortable to slide your both hands under the vest from the sides.
@@JustinWon92 yeah we also had an inner vest protecting from pistol rounds underneath the "ACU" (I'm Finnish so its different model but still same type of vest). Still atleast our vest was just loose enough that you could fit your hand under it.
@@TrumpWonTwice Soooo can you explain why 90% of the time when we rest our hands inside the vest, no one is actually around? Also, ironically when we interact with people, we usually take the hands OUT of the vest so that we are actually ready to use the equipment if ever necessary. Besides all this, all of the weaponry and tools are located on the belt, not the vest, so there is just absolutely no reason to expose our vests to people to "show off what we have". Again, just goes to show you've never been in this line of work.
@@TrumpWonTwice Id say that most do it for comfort and few do it for posturing atleast in my country. Your initial comment just heavily seemed to imply that "intimidation" is its main purpose.
Service? Who is he serving? 90% of the people the police arrest are victimless offenders. They rarely catch murderers, realists and especially never catch child molesters. They focus on non victim based offenses like drugs, speeding, burnt out tail lights, prostitution etc. wake up boot licker.
I dont know they all that tactical bullshit. Time and time again has shown they are not gonna put themselves in danger for anyone. Just go after non criminals to see if any charges stick.
I remembered i always thought this until one day at school i started wearing my bookbag backwards (on my chest instead of my back) because it would hurt my back after a while. And I soon realized after a while of having my bookbag on my chest that i would naturally hold my hands in those positions for more comfortablility, and then it instantly clicked to me why officers do it. 😂😂
A lot of people can say all the crap they want about him doing spin paint but I mean that was just a hobby I’m assuming this man has a family to support and he Stepped up to the call to protect and serve and keep his community safe for his family and all others! In my opinion big props my man ✊🏻💯
Are you allowed to bring your cop car home? So many Likes! Thanks guys! Love the support, why dont you subscribe to the short creator though, and dont like my comment?
It depends on the agency. For the holding the vest , when holding around the vest neck it's actually a defense tactic to protect your head and your face during a close contact with suspect , incase they decide to hit you in the face.
It's not just comfortable, if you're wearing a vest and duty belt and stuff, where you have all kinds of gear all over your body, it blocks many of the places you would usually put your hands. You naturally start looking for somewhere to put your hands, and the vest is just the natural place.
That's not the only reason. Not sure why he skipped over it. When you hold your vest upon when you're talking to someone (i.e., have them pulled over) it's a really good defensive position because your arms are already there to block torso and head punches or to counter.
I hold my vest like this because it allows me to react faster to someone doing something unexpected when talking to them. Holding the vest simply allows me to already have my hands up in a very relaxed, unagressive way... Stay safe!
I used to be a cop for a few years. The vest is also a good pillow. When you sit in your unit your vest sort of moves up a little like a turtle shell and you just let your head fall down and rest your chin on top the vest. But the vest gets hot, and you're constantly adjusting it, moving it around, pulling the neck part away from you, etc. It's literally like having a turtle shell. Most police vests can stop any handgun, but not rifle. Knife can go through a vest like butter.
Same as "bulletproof" tires, I have them on my crown vic and man they reliable to an extent, only thing that made my tires run low on air was half a wrench 🔧🤦♀️
It's also (at least in the UK) to prove that the officer hasn't hit, or tried to hit you, if they keep their hands on their vest at all times. It's probably phased out now that bodycams are a thing, but in the past with CCTV on buildings it made it more obvious that they hadn't tried to hit you, even if you claim they had
Keeping your hands up and ready to react and defend a sudden attack while appearing calm is smart. I like to cross my arms but one hand up on the chin, casually , but ready to deflect a strike.
Also in the Army I would do the same so my hands were above my waist while talking to someone. It’s a good way to keep your guard up while not looking aggresive
Police aren't the only ones who do that. We do that in the military too and it's literally a natural way to stand when wearing all that gear. He's not lying when he says it's comfortable
Plus because of the bulk of your mag pouches and other accessories it's hard to hold them out front or cross your arms. It also helps to relieve some of the pressure off your back and shoulders. It's all about being comfortable while having to carry an additional 40 lbs around all day.
Corrections officer here! I hold my vest by the collar just in case I have to throw hands. It looks very relaxed, but my hands are already at the right level to defend and not in my pocket.
Yeah, I love the neck position for me. I think it looks cool, I guess even though I’m not an officer It just depends on what I’m wearing I’ll sometimes catch myself doing that
Exactly what I thought .. my sweetheart does the same thing and I even bought him hand warmers.. trust it works wonders . Much love and respect for all the men in blue ❤❤
Also it’s a great thing to do as a way to keep your hands up and ready to defend yourself without appearing confrontational when dealing with an unpredictable person.
No its the opposite, I’m in law enforcement myself and one of the first things they tell you there is to not keep hold of your bulletproof vest, and definitely don’t stick them in to warm your hands. We tried it out ourselves, when something suddenly happens, and your grabbing on the the bp vest, 9 times out of 10 you’re later then when you just keep your hand normal.
No it’s not. you will get cross extensive grip reflex and you’ll just grab hold of it when your flinch reaction kicks. You’re explicitly given other stances in training to use.
Both of you idiots dont know what your talking about. He is 100% correct. Additional the officer in the video lied (well, didnt exactly lie, but didnt tell the whole truth).
As someone who plays airsoft I can confirm it is comfortable. Some of us wear vests and plate carriers and it's better than having your arms flail around.
Since you play airsoft, I am slowly getting into it. Just owning some airsoft guns here and there while shooting them in my backyard. I know there are rules but are there rules for CQC? Like, say two dudes who are opponents are just around the corner and as one of them comes around it, are they allowed to say, grab the gun and push or pull it away from pointing at their target? Are they able to grapple one another and flip or push another to the ground or is that sort of contact is not allowed?
@@rw0dyxer012 it always depends on the field you go to and their rules. Such as the fact that not all airsoft fields require facial protection. Typically aggressive physical contact is not allowed. I've seen CQC fields that allow melee weapons but it all depends on your field.
What a straight up DIRTY cop. He literally listened to that teenager say he’s going to say whatever he needed to say to get her taken out of that house. He didn’t care he was going to say ANYTHING WHATEVER IS NEEDED. The cop was literally standing right there listening to him confess that was his intent then not even 3 minutes later there he goes answering pointed questions by the same cop DIRECTING him on what was needed to be said yes to then and ONLY then did he say WHATEVER was needed to get his mother removed. This is crapy police work and they are going to permanently sever whatever was left of this mother and son relationship. Disgusting. That cop and all those cops who allowed that to happen like that should be stripped of their badge and fired. If they have shown to have this level of integrity then wow they cannot be trusted when need to handle more important matters. Their word and integrity must of a certain level to command the respect needed for that job. Those are disgraceful jokes. Not officers of the law.
Also when it’s hot, your vest will sometimes rub against your uniform, and ride up. This will happen when in the hot months we leave some slack in the vest to allow air to breeze through. In the colder months, we tend to tighten the vest more to keep the body heat to the core.
Just wear soft armor. There is no valid reason to walk around in hard armor all day long. If you want to destroy your back keep doing it, but if you want to stay young just wear safelife level 3a soft armor under your uniform shirt and keep a vest with hard armor in your cruiser. Hard armor is designed to withstand rifle rounds, soft armor is designed to withstand what people normally carry on the streets.
@@vitalityfox Ah bro, no one walks around wearing Level 3 steel plate body armor all day. Patrol is not SWAT. Secondly, the Department issues you your armor before graduation of the Academy, so your suggestion sounds very uninformed. Also many departments have rules on how a uniform should be all the way down to the vest. Maybe you should join an Agency, and then you can see for yourself.
You use less energy moving your arms around and the wisdom you eventually learn is to ALWAYS keep your hands in front of your torso to protect yourself.
Not even a cop but once I was so hot and tired. My arms were so heavy I just put them on my collar and let them hang. And HOLY was it so comfortable. I understand why they do it now. I always do it when I get tired
I used to do it so I could get my hands up and protect my face. I never stuck them under the vest. I was in DT one time and someone showed us that people can pin your hands really easily in your vest and go to town. With little to no experience. Point blank, it’s comfy, but also, does serve a purpose. Protect yourself friends
As a police tactical instructor for almost 40 yrs and still currently one, I can say for certain it doesn't give you a tactical advantage at all, in fact, it allows a bad guy to pin your hands in a very disadvantageous position, that has and will result in rotator cuff injury, and wrist injury, which can be catastrophic against a determined bad guy trying to get your weapon. You are welcome to disolution yourself all you like on this subject, but I have proved this over 100 times in CQB situations and every time my evals have been on point. So I am not writing this to convince you, I am simply wishing to convey facts to those of you, who want to get home to your families at shift end, stop holding the vest and tucking your hands into your vest and pockets. Extremely bad for your health end in my opinion. Be safe God Bless the Blue. Happy Holidays
Agreed. I prefer to loop my thumbs loosely so my hands are up and not stuck inside knowing action beats reaction most times and that can be dangerous. Prefer to have my hands at lose resting on mags in case. Didn't know about the rotator cuff injury but makes sense...never in pockets!! In training our instructors used to 'tap' people on the back of the head if they saw hands in pockets.
@@Seth547 yes, their right to be safe trumps everything for them, just like your right to be safe trumps everything for you. So fuck off, they are not YOUR servant. YOU are the broken part of this culture, not them, try living up to your responsibilities as a citizen instead of being greedy about your rights.
Nice to see a comment from someone who knows what they are talking about in terms of safety. So many on this don't. And surprisingly many from ex military. I was taught a particular way to stand and have your arms/hands positioned when speaking with a subject. And it's not this. In fact the instructors who taught me would probably turn a nice shade of red if you did.
I don't think Johnny will hold the vest like that when facing a potential confrontation. But when in a safe area, say just chatting with other officers in the station, or mingling with civilians say in a social function where there's no danger of violence, then why not just be comfortable.
I always thought it was a non-threatening ready position. A way to keep your hands up and ready for anything without provoking or escalating the situation further.
Officers in vests also do it because it creates a little more room for air to flow through and for body heat to be let out. When it gets hot out, I always pull my vest down from the collar to cool off my chest.
it also made me realize that i do the same with backpacks, putting hands under straps is comfy as it eases strain on shoulders, both vest and backpack rest on shoulders
It’s comfortable and depending what vest u got it helps the shoulders if its heavy. Plus it makes u seem relaxed. Also when talking to a suspect i keep my hands up at all times incase he swings
It's comfortable and so we are always ready. We can react faster by holding our vest instead of us putting our hands in our pockets. And it makes people feel more comfortable when talking to us. They don't feel threatened by us while we are in this position.
