It isnt which school you attend, its how you study and learn, the qualifications you achieve. Equality of process, not outcome, do the time in school and reap the rewards, bunk off and play gangsta and.........
Workers in any profession should be taken on merit rather than by ethnicity or gender but you should clearly encourage candidates of all backgrounds to apply.
@@yington shouldn't matter, if you have the qualifications required that is all that matters. If you dont apply for whatever made up reason thats on you.
@@yington given this was an internal vacancy, it is pretty easy. What you do is you get your HR department to go into an email, select the "to" button and then go to address book drop down and select "all contacts" or "contacts in X group" (e.g. regional offices, regional departments), once highlighted you then click "add/OK" Your HR department then writes an email saying there is a job opening for whatever position. Now the hard part, they need to click send. The email will send it to everyone where applicable.
This has been happening for decades in relation to sexism, where women are elevated and fast tracked into programmes, offered financing, mentoring, and have awards that are only allocated to women
@yt.personal.identification only the best person for the job wasn't hired 😂 she was hired above other much more experienced officers. The court found she was hired because of her race. You can't seriously be supporting that?
@@yt.personal.identification I've seen and even represented many employment claims where a Black, female or disabled employee took their employers to tribunal due to discrimination. Would you say they all should have accepted their situation instead of being 'bitter and looking to blame others'?
@@GregOrCreg That depends on the reason they were rejected. If their skin was a factor, then it is a problem.. If they failed to get the job on merit but play the race card, then they have no case and should be called out. Why do I need to explain the absolute basics to someone claiming to be a lawyer who is arguing in YT comments? Did you need help with a big case? Lawyer? Hilarious. I like it when people claim professions in arguments as if that will be convincing.
TBF, not all LBC presenters are obliged to report on every story. To the station's credit, it has an assortment of presenters with very different political views (although it's a shame they fired Sangita, especially since there are very few presenters of colour at LBC). Personally, I'd love to see more presenters without a left or right-wing bias, who just reported on all stories, regardless of the 'political angle', but I also realise that that's not how these things tend to work.
Because everything is about race these days. Identity politics has just been put on steroids for the last 10 years I guess it comes with multiculturalism
I would argue for a return to Colour blindness in the UK. Something I, as a British man support 100%. This identity politics needs to end at the hand of the government.
Equality of outcome is not equality, the only true equality with regard to employment, education etc is equality of process. For example, where all candidates for a position are subject to the same process, the same forms and the same questions and tests regardless of ethnicity etc. Of course, this does mean that all of these candidates must also be equally qualified to apply for the position in the first place. If you don't have the correct experience, education or qualifications you are not eligible to be considered. Attend school, work and study as required, attain the qualifications and then apply for these posts, dont expect to be eligible solely due to your skin colour or your religion. In my opinion!
@@yt.personal.identification the white ones or the brown ones. Because if skin colour didn't matter then the brown one wouldn't have even got an interview
Equality and the genuine pursuit for it is a great thing. The fear of litigation for big companies and tokenistic pursuit of proof of equality actually makes us more divisive and less equal.
I’m ball for promoting diversity. By all means encourage any minority you like. The problem is quotas. Say you need ten candidates but have a quota for 20% of type X. Currently you have 10%. If you need every position available to be made up of type X in order to get over that 20% then it doesn’t matter who the best candidate is. Let’s say you have a pass mark of 60% in your exam or assessment. The top two candidates on 95% could be type X. But if the next 100 who are between 70% and 90% are white male and the last eight who only scored sub 70% are type X. Well the type X get promoted. Despite those 8 being the least qualified. This is not the way to get the best out of any service. It means that a white male could score 85% every year and still never get promoted. Not only that but quotas mean it’s almost impossible to remove someone when they are clearly failing but still needed to fulfil the quota.
I think we can all agree that having the management, advise against a competitive process, is discriminatory... This is not about equality or diversity... this is a story about implementation
Your leading her hear Nick, she's not against a workplace being diverse. It's the point of promoting people based on ability to do the job not the colour of their skin or their sexualty. It's very easy to indirectly discriminate people based on any number of criteria. It would be easy to "Consider" someone but with absolutely no intention of ever giving them the job based on the undesirable qualities they have.
I don't think that this is a policy as all processes in place must be followed! A boss bypassing process is wrong. The best people must get the job irrespective of race. The issues is the nepotism and racial block that is actively in place
I question why this is headline news at this time of 2 tier conspiracies…..I lost out on a job after giving the best interview and better than all other candidates in every part of the role and more. Even though the manager and the employee were both the same race, I never believed it was a racial thing. These things unfortunately happen to all of us.
20 years ago, my brother, white, walked into a chip shop that had on the door "Hiring". He asked if they were looking for workers. He said yes but he wouldn't hire him because hes white. My brother loved this chip shop and went there everyday. never went again after that.
Only this was an actual race issue. The court said as much. Racism exists and it won't improve while people like yourself want to bury your head in the sand over it
Yes, he probably does, but does that mean this case is wrong, or shouldn't be reported on? Nick's narrative may be questionable, but the rest of us should ignore narrative and focus on facts and merit. Does the claimants' case here have merit?
Shouldn't it be the best person for the job? Not the colour of there skin. Especially in the police force!! Thay are there to protect us.....apparently.
Bigotry of low expectation. “Looks like” means color means race means selecting for immutable characteristics rather than skill talent ability and diversity of ideas
I needed to score 20% higher in a gov't job competition to draw even with a visible minority applicant. I was successful, and the hiring panel (my bosses) said they were glad to work with the better qualified person. Hopefully taxpayers felt the same.
Why would taxpayers feel anything in this instance? Were you guaranteed a higher salary than the 'visible minority applicant'? Also, how do you know that you were requred to score 20% higher? Who advised you of this, and what was the justification? Seems like a weird system to me, because even if they really wanted a minority candidate, the onus should have been on that minority candidate to reach a minimum level of competence/ability (e.g. score at least 60% in a test), and not on whether a non-minority candidate was 'better'. The justification for a minority candidate wouldn't change simply because you scored 20% more than them on a test.
'Stand up to racism' has taken on a whole new meaning..Hope more hard working Police Officers open the floodgates. How about a Level playing field for all..
That's wrong. Plenty of cases have been brought to the court over racism and succeeded. This is just one of them and they shouldn't have been expected just to "get on with it"
Diversity is very important but quotas are not the way to do it. Targets are fine but reaching those targets using discrimination is a big mistake. Investigate the reasons why a diverse amount of people aren't applying or succeeding and address those instead.
Why would any self respecting person want to receive patronage for their skin color? …let talent rise to the top if there’s a worry about prejudice then hide names and make screening of applications color blind
Skin colour is an issue for the ignorant. If you think about it, the people who instigate racism all share the same ignorance, their opinions are then forced on the victims of racism and the issue of race now becomes one for the ignorant and the victim, despite the fact it never has any credible base. Diversity is really about different personal cultures and experiences. The fact it can provide different points of view is typically a benefit to businesses and professions to understand the wider audiences and so on... I personally think it's very lazy to assume that people of a different skin colour automatically have different experiences or personal cultures. Look at the black Tory MPs as an example. Although these people may or may not have experienced racism in their lifetime, their personal cultures are very similar, if not the same, to their white counterparts. It comes down to people trying to meet quotas with no understanding of what they're actually trying to do. I don't think Nick understands this from the questions he asks.
Got to say though was wild hearing some woman with organisation named don’t divide us basically anti-diversity and calling for like a segregated society and work force 😂 I can get why Ferrari got bit confused. Was proper twisted naming
Positive discrimination might be the solution in some cases, but evidently the tribunal didn't think it was justified here (or maybe it wasn't cited in the respondent employer's defence).
I'm NO fan of Tory-Boy Nick Ferrari, but he didn't bring the claim, and he didn't adjudicate on the case that decided the claim had merit, so how is he the one to blame here? Like I say, I speak as NO fan of the man.
Nonsense! The majority of AFOs are Indigenous British. Few African or Asian officers represent inspector level status in the MET. If Indigenous Officers are denied promotion due to 'Diversity' regulations, it will be a short recruitment initiative which at the end of it all still show a shortfall of Global Majority citizens in a leadership role. 😮
@@MARCIAEROBERTS So would you say that countries like UAE, Qatar, Hong Kong, need to change their police force too, as it is 100% indigenous to their country, and they have absolutely zero white police officers there who can represent the white populations in their countries? That must look particularly outrageous to you?
We need to bring in height and strength and fitness thresholds and hold them across the board regardless of gender. The front line female riot police, border from evidence of film recently seen and the presidential bodyguard to POTUS are not fit for purpose.
Meritocracy, which is all too often seen as a "fair system" where success is based on talent and effort, fails to account for the deep-seated inequalities that shape people's opportunities. It overlooks the significant influence of privilege, such as wealth, social connections, and access to resources in a birth lottery, which create an uneven playing field. By attributing success solely to individual merit, this system justifies and perpetuates existing hierarchies, allowing those in power to maintain their dominance under the guise of fairness. The idea of equal opportunity in meritocracy is therefore a myth, as systemic barriers like economic disparity and discrimination continue to hinder true equality of opportunity. Moreover, meritocracy reduces human worth to productivity and achievement, fostering competition over cooperation and alienating individuals from one another. It promotes a society where people are valued not for their intrinsic humanity or contributions to the community, but for their ability to succeed within a competitive framework. This emphasis on individual achievement undermines collective power and solidarity, making it difficult to challenge the very structures of inequality that meritocracy upholds. Ultimately, meritocracy is a deceptive ideology that obscures systemic injustices and reinforces the status quo, rather than creating a truly just and equitable society.
@@yington The issue isn't about rejecting the idea of being selected based on skill or contribution. Rather, it's about recognising that merit is often influenced by factors beyond individual control, such as access to resources, education, and social connections. When we focus solely on merit, we risk ignoring these structural inequalities that shape opportunities and outcomes. The goal is to create a system that values everyone’s contributions and addresses these underlying disparities, ensuring that success isn't determined just by who had the most advantages to begin with. It’s about fostering a more inclusive and equitable society where everyone has the opportunity to thrive, not just those who started with a head start.
@@andheydsj Ok, so please can you elaborate in your case how this might mean you shouldn’t get selected on your own merit alone, and where your privilege should have to be accounted for too?
@@yington I understand the importance of merit, and I personally take pride in the success I've achieved mainly through tenacity and authenticity. However, my journey started from a place where many don't begin, experiencing homelessness at a young age and facing the daily uncertainty of how to secure basic necessities like shelter and food. Unlike those who start life with extensive resources, not least the security of stable housing and support, I had to overcome significant barriers just to reach a level playing field. My achievements are a testament to my determination, but they don't erase the fact that others with similar potential might be held back because they lack the same opportunities or face even greater challenges. This is why I believe it's important not to view merit in isolation but to also consider the different starting points people come from. Recognising these disparities helps create a fairer system that values both the effort it takes to succeed and the obstacles that are overcome along the way.
Amongst all the racially motivated riots in the UK we can always count on Nick to add some of of his own fuel to the fire and tell us “minorities are also taking away your promotion”. The guy just couldn’t help himself.
Are the merits of this particular case just? If so, I'm afraid it shouldn't matter what's happening elsewhere. Newsproviders have one responsibility: to report the truth. NOT to push a narrative. Pushing a narrative was how the far-right riots happened, but that doesn't mean that we counter far-right lies by obfuscating the truth. For example, the Rochdale grooming gang scandal unfortunately led to anti-Muslim violence, but it would have been an immense injustice if that story had been dismissed. Whilst nowhere near as serious as the abuse of young girls, the police officers in this case have a right to have their case reported on, assuming their grievance was just, which it appears an employment tribunal believes. Also, were minorities at fault in this case, or the (possibly white) people who employed the minority applicant over the white ones? Assuming the white police officers' grievances are legit, I hope they don't take it out on the minority officer who was given preference. Instead they should aim their (non-violent) ire at their employers.
@celticsole7542 you're partly right, when Wales and Scotland have only had but a meager taste of mass immigration as England (and now Ireland) has. You'll be raising the same concerns when it comes to your door and changes your countries beyond recognition
