Politics of Rome | The Senate (HBO) 

Ave Ceasar

Its popularity contest. Caesar wins for being cool

Plebians like Caesar because they are incapable of having an original thought and needs a strong man to tell them what to do. Many of these people have a daddy complex Intelligent people who value freedom will try to save the republic. Cicero is the real hero here.

The republic must stand.

@@gerardjagroo Yes, you are right.

Edwidge Whatsosons haaahaa

and no wifi

@@SkodzGaming They all vote in a Twitter poll ;)

They actually had air conditioning, of a sort.

@@Argumemnon windows

He has so many great one-liners!

Thanks for the sub champ!

And in the end Mark Anthony became the biggest Antagonist

Thats not a threat the snows do always melt

@@ihateintroductions5808 I don't know who has the best one-liners, Mark Anthony from Rome, or Bronn from Game of Thrones

No what is done is done. Tho i agree they should make another show about the old republic.. id like to see sula and marious , or the gracci brothers maby even the samnite wars... the possibilitys are endless

They should have season 1 be the founding of the republic and have a season for all major wars/events. Imagine a season with Hannibal destroying every army.....until the season finale of the the 2nd Punic war......Zama.

the original show plan had the story told out as far as the life of jesus, and even further. it's been long enough that they could skip a bit of time and move forward without any of the original cast, though mckidd and stevenson are still around, so a vorenus and pullo cameo would be lovely =D

Sadly HBO was great. Ruled by Liberals like the Senate of Rome.

I would love to see a show in the same style about Aurelian.

No, it wasn't "passing a note" like a classroom letter. A letter officially arrived during the hearing, Cato then forced for the letter to be read aloud.

Either way mama got game for a woman to write a letter saying how great a shag he is.

Caesar was infamous for his sexual exploits. During his Triumph his legions sang songs about how men had to hide their wives from him or he would shag them all.

One of my favourite anecdotes

Caesar had a biggus dickus

Ceasar had to much chipotle in Gaul

And what is a "java car ", anyway?

@@ChickenButt39--More like too much wine, if anything. Chipotle was unknown in Gaul (and Hispania) in Roman times. Caesar might have been enamored of a fermented fish sauce from Hispania known as Garum. Hispania had been the site of a retired soldier's colony by 23 B. C. and just starting to export vast amounts of grain, olives, and olive oil beginning around that time.

@@onemercilessming1342 whoosh

@@yungsouichi2317--That's the sound that learned, researched, and factual information makes when it goes right over the hoi polloi's collective heads.

*millenia

Oh that is the Oldest Truth in Politics.

Kerrigan Hayes maybe because the founders intentionally created the system to be power contradicting power.

erik dahlbeck I mean we know it didn't go down like in the show because Caesar was never Pompey's co-consul

or crooked senators who enter DC poor as a church mouse, and leave with vast millions. Nancy No-Losi has demonstrated the self enrichment of our "champions" who miraculously become super wealthy as the media sleeps.

not thru because stars wars was long time ago

True. Man of action.

Real senates don't have to say they are a senate, Palpatine was no caesar

@@kvnd7331 Give palpatine an essence of nightshade so that he may fall asleep

What about Sulla

Exactly. Amazing way to interrupt someone.

Cicero was a master at public speaking. His own slave even invented Stenographia, still used in the 1950 to write a speaking at the same speed the man is speaking. Cicero followed some special training lessons in Greece when he was younger, and a part of them was based on public speaking. Have a look at Cicero's arms when he is talking: its a special posture to sustain pressure and stress. This was formally taught in these Greek rethoric lessons. That show is quite accurate, except on some characters. It's a shame they had to stop it.

Classic Cicero amiright

It was mixed too loud.

@@darthkek1953 Yes it would have been better without any OST

@@ThePrinceofGaming it's good music but a bit intrusive.

Its not for everyone. But for those of us who played Rome Total War. Its riviting. Best Total War OST of them all.

@@moseshamlett3887 RTW was the first total war i ever played, and i loved it ( still love it ), but the music in the video is way too loud for my liking :(

how exactly having that position with hands reduces stress lol? Same can be said about any position eh?

Maybe it acted as a focus tool? That’s so cool!

Well Cicero was allready "Father of the Fatherland" during this time supposedly the most respected politician of his time.

TIL. Fascinating bit of knowledge, I never knew about that. It even has a name: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chironomia

@@cautarepvp2079 Most Spanish and Italians today "speak with their hands" much more so than Northern Europeans this is a throw back to this formal teaching of oratorical tools used by the Greeks.

Yeah, they downplayed things quite a bit, probably to make it more believable.

Let's not get into Clodius and Milo's arm gang of political agitators that turn Rome into utter chaos that lead to the sole Consulship by Pompey (they literally cannot hold the consulship election, and Senate have to just gave Pompey the first consul, and he choose his new father-in-law as the co-consul) and the Senatus Ultimum Consultum that gave Pompey almost dictatorship power to bring the city into order.

@@dyingearth Pompeys sole Consulship is a hilarious little point because the Pompeyan faction of the senate clutched their pearls when Caesar made this exact same move. Many people look at Pompey as some kind of hero who couldn't get the job done in the end when in reality the only reason Pompey feared Caesar was because he knew Caesar would do the exact same thing he would

@Reunite The British Empire Well, he waged war against all of Gaul, including allies and city states that were paying tribute to Rome. That's tyranny. He was a great leader, but he was a scheming maniac.

@Reunite The British Empire he was a genius but he was a bloody tyrant

And to some extent their civilization is still alive in ours.

Will they not say the same in 2000 years when they wander through the ruins of our civilization. Did not romans say the same of the ruined civilizations they wandered through. Men are ephemeral, but mankind is ancient and strange. Through this cycle of deaths and rebirths, we discover much more than ourselves, and feel the weights of many souls long dead who trod out the steps of our own prosperity, now we lay the highway of stones for those who will come down the road and feel the weight of our ghosts in days to come.

@@TheSasudomi Bravo,bravo.

Check out niems in Southern France you will find some of the best preserved roman buildings in that city.

I think it's the most common historical misconception that for some reason that just because these people had less technology than us that they were somehow less capable. Human beings are human beings wherever we are, and as far as I can tell we are always genuinely amazing in how creative, tenacious and persistent we can be.

historians seem to suggest he was prone to panicking under stress.

He went to some serious shit by being the best lawyer, a witty politician, and Clodius' and Mark Antony's enemy

Maulana Fariz also true - and he was an interesting philosopher. I like Cicero a lot. He was prone to panic though, which is not a criticism, just a historical observation. As nobody is completely perfect.

@@BunnyUK even Caesar had seizures

That old man is general and pirate-slayer: Publius Servilius Vatia Isauricus!! Show some respect! HE WAS A CONSUL OF ROME!!!!!!

It is but in truth, it's small compared to the history of China.

Joseph Gibson arguably not

@@JosephGibson Why does that even matter?

@@JosephGibson Who gives a toss about China? Its history is so hard to understand and unravel. At least the history of Rome is notable and memorable with amazingly influential figures to this day. The Roman form of government inspired literally the entire world's governments today. Give me a breakdown of China's history in simple terms.

@@dawn-blade I agree about Roman history, but don't be so quick to toss out Chinese history, The Romance of The Three Kingdoms is one of the most popular stories of mankind.

Not yet.

It's treason then

*Jullius Caesar draws his Spatha (long Roman sword) from his scabbard and they’re at it*

@@tomurg would have been the gladius hispanicus ( spanish sword).The spatha didn't become standard issue until the 2nd - 3rd c AD.

Hey Senate

1 1/2 basically. They fast tracked the second season lol

Camels? Do I look like a fucking date merchant?

his raw unmitigated ambition was something to watch indeed

Is it just me thinking but wasnt Antony kind of an idiot not realizing that Cicero tells him to veto the motion and not realizing that thats what the enemies of Caesar want him to do?

James Purefoy is Pure Joy to behold

@@miro6099 you'd be wrong. cicero was trying to play the middle. that's why he carried the motion then told antony to veto it. it wasn't vetoed, making caesar a criminal, forcing him to go to war with the senate. if it had been vetoed as cicero wanted, the roman republic might've held on a bit longer and war certainly could've been averted.

Sulla is the one who really changed things. The threat (or reality) of a powerful general using an army to defeat his political opponents in order to round them up and kill them hung over the Senate the whole time in the period between Sulla and Caesar. It had become an option in a way that it had never been before.

@@Sphere723 Except Marius did that first. Sulla's proscriptions were retaliatory for his own supporters being killed. If any single person can be blamed for killing the republic it's Marius.

@@Kidneyjoe42 Kind of a chicken and egg thing with Marius and Sulla. Sulla marched on Rome first and eliminated a few people. Marius marched on Rome and eliminated a lot of people, then Sulla comes back and eliminates even more. But I think it's fair to hang most of it on Sulla who was the first to use his army to march on Rome. That's what opened Pandora's box.

The political system was very corrupt. Not a very good system at that time. It was degrading rapidly, with senators constantly going rogue and murdering their enemies with impunity. Caesar lived during all this, and created a long lasting empire because of what he did. Cicero used to defend murderers alot, and was not a very good man himself even if he was extremely wise in many aspects.

Rome became an empire after its defeat of Carthage in the Second Punic War. Sulla set the precedent for generals becoming dictators.

Lol

LOL

THIS IS A RELIGIOUS MATTER!!!

@@mortache THERE ARE NO TRICKS IN MATTERS OF RELIGION!

LOL

The cast was horrible, and the modern English accents very inaccurate. Romans spoke Latin, not some fluffy pompous sounding modern English.

@@legioxciicorvus5917 Quit larping and enjoy things as they are.

@@legioxciicorvus5917 what, do you expect the whole show to be in Latin? Nobody would watch it then.

@@legioxciicorvus5917 Latin is for dead people and fallen empires. English is a much more modern and understandable language spoken by over a billion people in the world.

@@legioxciicorvus5917 To be fair; soldiers, merchants and plebs woud speak latin. High educated particians; such as the senators; would speak ancient greek (when speaking to each other, at least); as most philosophers, scientists and poets revered and studied at the time where greeks (after all; much of Rome's culturre came from greece; gods and relligion included)... So doing a show with an english speaking cast would be innacurate no matter the accent they used.

No it's like a game show. This was a togga party gone bad. ORRRDUUUUHHHHH

UK parliament is even worse because they don’t kill each other these days; we’ve got even more deadlock and false promises.

Hugh Morris would be nice if they hacked at each other now and again. Get the angst out. And we know labour pc folk aren’t going to win a brawl.

The Italian parliament really hasn't changed all that much. Shouting, scuffling and brawling are still part of the tradition, although slicing, stabbing and murdering each other is no longer allowed.

This is about Rome not about naked tea suckers ancestors , you have nothing in common with these guys , if wasn’t for the Frenchmen you wouldn’t even have Latin alphabet

@benvolio mozart too bad he failed then, snakes like Cicero are best handled with a hard hand.

@benvolio mozart Cæsar was removed from the mortal flesh, and all of his enemies were hunted down and slaughtered before he was deified. The so called "Liberators," the self-proclaimed "saviors of the Republic," were the ones who ensured that the Republic fell.

@benvolio mozart Yet it is the name Cæsar which remains prevalent to this day. You claim he just "picked up the dropped apples." The greatest of those who seek power look to do so by doing the least of the work themselves.

@benvolio mozart Sulla was a brute, a successful brute but a brute nonetheless. He slaughtered his political opponents, whereas Cæsar utterly outmaneuvered his. Where Sulla would have had Pompey killed, like a brute, Cæsar sought to place him as a powerful, and grateful, ally in the Senate. The so called "Liberators" had been so utterly outmatched they resorted to butchering Cæsar like a bunch of panicking criminals, and earned the hatred of the common Roman public so much that they were forced to flee from the Republic they so ignorantly believed they were "saving."

benvolio mozart calling someone naive while blating so much nonsense and utter BS about Ceasar and Sulla, we get it, you hate Ceasar for whatever reason, You call him a mass muderer then you can basicly call every senator one including your beloved Sulla or you though when he was campaigning in the east they opened their doors for him and showered him with flowers. I normally never respond to these kind of Biased posts but this was just too much. Calling Ceasar just luck while he was one of the most outstanding generals of his time. Battle of Alesia was actual brilliance and competent leadership, and at the battle of Pharsalus he destroyed his rival the self styled Pompey Magnus who was Sulla’s pupil.

Carlos Smith it's exactly the same but less bloodshed, well more or less

Whats is better than either the two systems mentiones tell me

Caesar is basically Trump.

EVOCATEUR not at all

@@willre00 Hmm a wealthy aristocratic populist despised by the elite but with support of the neglected working classes tries to enact sweeping reforms that are met with vitriolic resistance from bureaucrats and politicians who try everything they can to stop him. Yeah I can't imagine who that sounds like.

That was never gonna happen which is hinted at when Cicero says Pompey's soldiers rule. The Republic was dying and Pomey and Caesar at odds just made it die faster. Both wanted to be top dog and Pompey figured he could strip Caesar of his position with the Senate.

It also would've given him time to bribe more senators to his side, build popularity with the people, disband enough of his legions to create a voting base in the city while keeping his most loyal men under arms. All to go through the same process once his new governship expired only then he would have even more support in the city itself. And all of that is assuming he didn't find an excuse to raise more legions and invade southern Germany just as he had found an excuse to invade gual. At best it just delays the civil war while giving him a chance to grow even more powerful. And that assumes that with ceaser somewhat weakened Pompeii wouldn't seize power in the interim and force the Senate into ceaser's hand anyway. The Republic was screwed by this point. too corrupt too weak, and caught between two men with boundless ambitions.

@Crus Harold I doubt that. Ceasar hesitated for quite a while. Also, Anthony actually managed to find a solution Ceasar, Pompey and most others were willing to accept. But Cato and Lentilus, unwilling to accept, forcibly expelled Anthony to prevent him from vetoing the move to have Ceasar declared a criminal (which happened 7 days after Anthony left Rome.) Even after all this, Ceasar still hesitated and took some time to think things through thoroughly. Also, Pompey, being a decent military commander understood that he was at a disadvantage at that point in time. When Ceasar crossed the Rubicon, Pompey immediately proposed abandoning Rome and retreating to Macedonia, while everyone else insisted on intercepting Ceasar's advance on Rome (which failed as miserably as Pompey predicted). This turn of events was inconvenient for Pompey, because of the bad timing. Pompey was actually the biggest threat to Rome's republic...and most understood that. Pompey was basically just a normal guy who inherited his father's army. For half of his career, he didn't have any legal right to lead an army, didn't even hold any political offices. He went straight from nothing to consul, without holding any of the expected offices before becoming consul. He became consul only because he did what Ceasar would do later. Marched an army on Rome because he wanted a Triumph. Crassus, who actually deserved that Triumph, in response marched his army to Rome as well. Both men had broken the law, so both were made consuls to give them immunity to prosecution as a compromise and to prevent civil war. The only thing Pompey had, was his own personal army. And he used the threat of that army to get the things he wanted. Pompey had crossed the Rubicon with an seversl times himself. He used to be Sulla's henchman. Even Crassus commited the same crime. I'm pretty sure Ceasar (and Pompey) expected the senate to do what it did all the previous times...to compromise.

Caesar still would not have stopped until he was undisputed dictator.

@@tylerdurden3722 agree.

Yup. Cato fucked up.

Seriously.... Caesar destroyed the Republic (with help from Sulla and Marius before him), Not Cato.... Cato didn't March on Rome, Cato didn't kill innocent Romans just because he didn't want to be exiled, Cato didn't do anything but say how it is.... That Caesar wanted to rule Rome as a Tyrant (which he did) and that Caesar abused his power to March on Rome, which he didn't have to. Many people were exiled in Roman History, there were even lot's of dictators before Sulla and Caesar. The difference is that the Dictators before Sulla and Caesar, were TRUE Romans who stepped down once the threat was over, and we're asked to be Dictator rather than March on Rome!!

@@Aemilius46 Still, Cato really did fuck up. During the meeting with Mark Antony and the Conservatives, 3 of the 5 Conservatives (including Pompey and Cicero) agreed to the deal which Caesar proposed (1 legion and 1 province). This deal would've made it so much more harder for Caesar to gain power, as he would basically have to start from ground zero again. Of course Cato being the ignorant fool that he is, broke down negotiations by demanding the complete resignation of Caesar. And then again, after Pompey decided to do a tactical withdrawal from Rome (which was the best option), Cato wanted for them to stay which just shows how out of touch he was from the situation at hand. He wanted Pompey to face Caesar near Rome with maybe 1 legion full of recruits who would run at the sight of Caesars veterans. I'm not denying Caesar wanted to be a emperor which he definitely did, however Cato was way too ignorant when it came to understanding the geopolitical situation at hand.

@@Aemilius46 True

@@Aemilius46so you just ignore all the machinations of Cato that forced Cesar into his march on Rome. Talk about being biased. “With a help” of people who lived almost centuries before him, you’re just repeating Cato’s conservative fears. He and his supporters could not make difference between reality and their interpretations, could not separate their status quo from well being of Republic, and so the ushered their own end.

Because the Republic at this point was old and dying, so Cato represented that condition.

@@curtisag "They sleep standing up, you know. Elephants. On account, once laid down, they cannot rise again."

You sir are a geek. These mechanizations are convoluted enough to be true. But they have a plot to move along. Make Rome Great Again.

@@SuperChuckRaney Geek, I think you meant historian. Be careful with the "Make Rome Great Again" slogan. The last person to use that was named Benito and he ended up shot and on display hanging from his heels at a Milan service station.

@@stvdagger8074 Putin is making a procedural error on Ukraine. Caesar didnt make many on his way to the Top. I thought his invasion of Britian was odd. Everyone yelling about the war in Gaul, and he is tromping around LOTS of other places.

@@SuperChuckRaney Caesar made many procedural errors on his way to the top. While Consul, he ignored the lawful vetoes imposed by his co-Consul, Bibulus. While Govenor of Gaul, he conducted unauthorized wars. These violations of the law left him vulnerable to legal prosecution, thus he had to start a civil war to avoid the legal consequences of his own doing. What Putin is doing is waging an aggressive war and he should end up on a noose.

great fuckin analysis bro! no wonder why that image always struck me...even when i dont feel like doing something important, i just think of this series Caesar, motivates me so fkin much

I saw this vid that said Caesar could go home yet, he hadnt found the gold mine in Gaul. That was what he was looking for.

Pompey was his friend, Pompey was rich, and Pompey died

Did he really come back into Rome with red face paint on?

@@foodchewer I think is some sort of homage to the God's, a religious thing.

a true fan

Vorenus kind of fills that function broadly speaking

Cato opposed Caesar a lot, but he wasn't his main rival

@@CW-rx2js He was his true rival.

@@CW-rx2js He really was Cicero in reality wasnt on either side, he didnt want a civil war. He only joined Pompey because the Senate was with them and because he thought either one of them would make themselves dicators it would be better to side with the senate in the hopes of maintaining parts of its power. Even in the final negotiations it was him who pushed for compramise and kinda placed himself as the middle man between Antony and Pompey. And they had a deal too, but Cato fucked it all up - they agreed to allow Ceaser to keep one legion and maintain his legal immunity, but then Cato demanded the last legion and it all broke down. He almost achived peace but Cato fucked it.. Pompey was Ceasers ally for most of his life and only joined the Conservative faction after the death of Crassus and the death of his wife (Ceasers daughter I think). After that he did become his enemy yes, but lets be honest he wasnt a man with strong convictions. He was no defender of the Republic, even people like Cicero saw that. He would make himself dicator if he won just like Ceaser. Once his marriage ended and he no longer needed Ceaser, he became his enemy because of opitiunism. But it was at the end of his career and for the largest part they werent rivals but allies instead. Cato on the other hand is another story. All throughout his life he opposed Ceaser. he basically screwed him out of his Spanish Triumph. And when Ceasers legal immunity ended, Cato promised that he would be the one to lead the prosocution against him. It was Cato who basically led the anti-Ceaser faction in the senate until Pompey came along. It was Cato who opposed him at every turn. All his career, he was Ceasers enemy. And after the fall of Pompey, it was him who led the last of the Pompains along with Lepidus and made there last stand in Africa. TLDR: Cato was the real rival. Cicero was never really his rival, he only joined the Pompains once it was a one or the other decision. he decided to go with them to save the senate not to snub Ceaser. Pompey was his ally for most of his career, and only really became his enemy at the end. Cato was his true rival, fighting him at every turn, promising to lead the prosocution against him and leading the Pompaians after the fall of Pompey.

After Season 8 of GOT, this comment has aged poorly!

Almost everything on HBO was better than GoT

@@travr1131 You mean aged perfectly? Season 8 is pure, utter garbage, and it ruined the whole show for me.

George R. R. Martin is a fat unoriginal fuck with Tolkien delusions who plagiarized Lord of the Rings and even stylized his name like Tolkien's

@Lewis Definitely.

Glad you enjoyed!

Second season is pure soft porn

Much appreciated!

Your Welcome :)

Rome total war best PC game ever nice to listen to such music

@@ihateintroductions5808 Why did the Romans love sex so much?

Rome Total War music is Jeff Beal's composed for HBO ROME

Super happy to hear that! I hope it goes well!

Mucho appreciated!

cringe

​@@jenshavla4673 triggered

What the .

GODS THE WRITING WAS STRONG THEN

@@dragonforks93 GET ME MY SEASON 3 STRETCHER!

I appreciate the love

@@ihateintroductions5808 I know this is late but how about a clip on the ladies plotting and backstabbing. They were so wonderfully nasty.

War Against Myself Cato and his absolute inflexibility are really what forced Caesar to take such a drastic step, negotiations were going on and on from both sides to find a way out of that mess, what Caesar was asking for was justifiably reasonable considering his achievements, the right to stand for consul in absentia, Cato is responsible for what ensued.

Mainly cato I find it odd that in the meeting between the pompeian faction and Marc Anthony shows Cato saying very little when reality Cato was the one that ruined the negotiations for both sides as a compromise was about to be struck

@@kenrudd6362 one legion and a govornorship to remove a threat is cheap. Cato wanted war because he thought je was the senate

@@markperry2827 not yet he's not

Ok, as much as Caesar was an "enlightened despot" you have to realize that Caesar was urging them to declare him an enemy with his every action so that he would have his Casus Belli to march on Rome. Anyone marching on the Pommerium or crossing the Rubicon is considered an enemy of Rome, so no matter how much you dress it up Caesar was a traitor. It only speaks to the power of his propaganda that we still have people like you justifying his atrocities. Though I will concede, there was no worse slave, and no better master than Caesar, and the Senate was incredibly corrupt. However, you people are the very plebians that enable tyrants to rise to power and then act confused when a Stalin or a Hitler begins his purges.

Thank you !

Your welcome. Keep em coming! I showed my Professor for Western Civilization and got extra credit.

You have the new tv show called Barbarians, there they speak fully in Latin

@@lakistojkovic190 Yes, I watched it already. Thank you 👍🏼

naaa the ending for vorenus was good it was very emotional and the series kinda oushed from the beggining that he was gona die its big for the character arc

@@goodcomrade2949 To be fair, we never did see him die, but it was strongly implied. The writers of the series including Bruno Heller of course were shopping around the idea of an actual movie where he survives to a few major studios shortly after the series ended. Unfortunately it never picked up any steam for whatever reason, but I would have loved to have seen a full length film.

The classic, "It's not a threat, it's a promise."

Thanks man!

@@ihateintroductions5808 please make more about other events in the show

He is not mumbling in here

@@petrucatana2949 right. what did he say?

@@MajesticSkywhale he said, "I found all these weapons and the sea mine"

Would trade a full dozen of any other HBO subsequent shows, including GOT, to finance one or two more seasons of Rome.

well said my friend

Thank you for your feedback. I saw your comment on the other video as well. I'm just trying to get Part 2 down to 15 min now! A lot of editing involved. More watchable that way though. I'll have it posted by the end of next week.

@@ihateintroductions5808 Take your time it will be enjoyed for years to come ;)

valar dohaeris

;)

It was a lot more complex and f.e. if you look at the populares part of politics they were often the voice of expansion and agression. Much more so than the optimates. Calling for violence circumventing their own laws. But Caesar really wasnt either. He was a genius in masking himself kind of as leftist populares to gain support and then break out as a dictator. He didnt do it only for personal glory but because he saw the roman republic nearing its end as a functional system of government and he was right in that. Nowadays its not really in discussion that this was in many cases the populares combined with short sighted politics. One of the most famous the forced resignation of Fabius the "Cunctator" in the fight against Carthago. Roman history can tell us how precious a democratic or republican system of governemnt is and that its no guarantee at all that it will stay that way if you dont watch out.

He was wearing mourning clothes to symbolize his idea that the republic was dead

Great points!

@William Brooke I couldn't have said it any better myself. I do also worry about whether or not people realize that even if they liked the end results following in the aftermath of Caesar consolidating power in Rome, that those actions aren't without future consequences that could open the door more easily for future tyrants to then take over Rome in ways that they wouldn't be in favor of. If that were to happen people should realize Caesar would be in large part to blame.

Caesar was a product of his time himself. He was no better than the other two triumvirate. He just happened to emerge as the winner in the heat of Roman political climate. Was he a better politician? Definitely. Was he a better or even a good leader at all? Hardly. At the end of the day, he was a politician. He was unlike Charlemagne or Frederick The Great whose contributions to their country are mostly positive. Caesar was much more like Napoleon.

@William Brooke Comparing Julius Caesar to Hitler is a really bad way to measure attitudes and achievements, they weren't similar at all. The best thing Julius Caesar did was having Octavian as his heir, the transformation of the Roman Republic into the Roman Empire was so need it for them and it's the reason they last so long. Pax Romana.

@William Brooke Hi there you caught me while i was searching for music ahahaha. But i guess i can answer you, to your question about Octavian. Basically because Julius saw the potential in what at the moment was a child. Child that we now turn in the first emperor of the Roman Empire. An empire that last for so but so long (until 1453) that just that is an achievement itself. So Julius was rigth about the potential of Octavian and his memory was preserve by Octavian and his legacy. So at the end Julius manage to remain in history untill this days as a part of the Roman Empire history. Have a great day buddy, take care and carry on :) .

People might change and die but Idea and politics has never changed.

Some people just age better ;)

Less time on battlefield?

I’d argue is because given the show was really expensive at the time, production went cheap on casting actors

@@tucker1012 nah, actors are great.

That's one of my favorite parts too! Had to keep it in there.

not historically accurate? in what sense? there are some fictional variations in a few depictions of certain events, but in general the series is quite accurate. at least compared to pretty much any other media depiction of this period. The depiction of the daily life of the average roman and the feel of Rome in the 1st century BC is particularly splendid.

daxx77m1 you're crazy bro HBO's Rome is one of the most historically accurate shows out there yes there are some fictional characters but overall it's very accurate in almost every way

Some events and characters are dramatized for the purpose of entertainment, though other than that it is rather historically accurate.

The 2nd season is a bit inaccurate. Mostly because the original plan for 7-8 seasons had to be jammed into a single season meaning a lot of characters got mixed in with each other etc.

RageCake1414 name something that was inaccurate cuz I didn't catch too many if anything at all

Nothing ever changes. There's Nothing New Under the Sun. It is but the screed of the delusional to speak of progress.

Appreciated! I haven't been able to post as much I'd liked to; b/w applying to grad school and work, I haven't had the chance to push out Part 2. But it's coming! Thanks again!