I go through Porcupine Tree fazes. I often listen to them for days on end, and then I stop and don't listen to them for months. But whenever I am in the mood for them I always wonder why I don't listen to them all the time.
@@DanielVerberne I don't believe Gene Hoglan needs much adjustment. If they're not in sync, it's simply because both were so perfect that they split our timeline and created two realities.
Uff it’s hard to tell because every song is fantastic. Example: Start of Something Beautiful The Sleep Of No Dreaming Arriving Somewhere, But Not Here Sentimental Fear of a Blank Planet etc.....
To all the guys talking about drummers, what do you think of Mike Mangini, the new drummer of Dream fucking Theater. He is thé best drummer at this time of this fucking planet!!!
+Tarik Najab I can name lots of Fusion/Ghospel drummers that are on a higher level than Mike :) BUT Mike does really well and great at what he's doing! Gavin on the other hand is everything a alt/progrock/fusion band will ever need. Groove, technical ability, feeling, timing, vision, coordination, dynamics, creativity... I didn't (yet) see that in Mike Mangini!
I have to admit that you are right about Gavin, I watched yesterday J-L Ponty Live: 1982 Montreal Jazz Festival with Rayford Griffin on drums. If you like to see some creativiness , steadiness and incredible technic, wel have a look ayt this guy! Sincerely, Tarik
It's 5/4, though. And same tempo as the rest of the song, comprised of 6/4 and 4/4 sections. The beat is consistent enough throughout the track for them to clap along.
Well they're basically clapping 4/4, since they're just clapping quarter notes. I could start clapping a quarter note steady pace in 4/4 and say its 7/4 because they're the same
My son got me hooked on Skyharbor, Plini, and Sithu Aye We just talked about PT...he knows all about them. Ugh! I did a great job of raising him as you did with your boy. By the way...I taught him all about Prog Metal...I introduced him to DT and the rest is history.
6:26 - you don't have to be insanely fast, you don't have to kill the double bass pedals, you sure don't have to flip sticks in the air to be a great drummer. None of that. Everything Gavin hits is just magical.
+Emmanuel Aigueperse The rythm is rather simple, but what he does (including the bassist) some kind of back-laid though very interesting.There is kind of a tension between bass and drums. And his fills are the icing- not too much but technically sophisticated.
I agree, but the drums come out so freaking crisp, that's what makes Gavin special.. IDK why, how, but the pristine, crystal clear sound he gets out of his drums are like no one else. I swear I've "seen them all" but even the most technically proficient drummers are far behind in getting the subtleties and power Gavin gets from his kit. It's one of a kind.
I must be way behind the times!! I had heard of Porcupine Tree many times before, but had never listened to them. This is the third piece I've heard so far: I've listened to Arriving Somewhere But Not Here, Anesthetize, and now this, and they are fantastic~
That's something you don't see anymore in alt./rock, metal, or progressive. Keyboardists. You have a few here and there in bands like DT, BTBAM, Born of Osiris, Kamelot, and a few others, but I don't think enough bands appreciate how many more layers you can add to your music when you bring on a keyboardist.
+Alex Knott More than a keyboardist, the thing is having someone who can create soundscapes that really merge and enhance the sound of everything else, like Mr. Barbieri does right here.
Mauricio Buitrago Kevin Moore did create great atmospheres while he was in the DT, a pity he left the band, though maybe he knew the direction they were taking and that contributed to his departure.
I prefer live albums, in my opinion, that talks how great are the band performance. The great musicians (bands) are a pleasure to hear them live rather than the studio version. Ex. Iron Maiden, Dream Theater, Pink Floyd, Nightwish, Pain of Salvation, Tool etc...
Got here due to my admiration of Danny Carey from Tool. I’m so stoked to have discovered Porcupine Tree. Gavin is enchanting to watch on drums. Mind blowing time signature changes and perfect composition without silly flare.
I don t know why people still mention Dany Carey. I think those who do, have never heard of Gavin. Danny is great but is no where close to Gavin. I ve listened tons and tons of album tracks and live songs of Gavin whether it is with PT, the pineapple thief or other bands, I ve found only a single time mistake...a single. I listenned Pneuma live of the video recently released and found in this single live song, at least 4 or 5 rythm/fills mistakes from Dany. Gavin is a robust drummers, technical but most importantly very musical. One of the greatest.
@@potatounicorn9480 I did not mention skills. I said "robust" meaning whatever the situation, circumstances, the guy behind the drums that can always play metronomically and without making mistakes , is a robust drummer.
Am a lifelong fan (I am 51) of prog rock and prog metal, virtuoso music in general. Rush has been my fave band since 1980 (seen them live 21 times) and I've spent the pandemic submerged in Fear Inoculum (I love Tool) For the life of me, how the truck did I miss Porcupine Tree?!! They are way beyond AMAZING!
Felt the same way Angel. Several years ago I set up a "tool" station on pandora and PT came on as a similar artist. Immediately had to go see the name of this band I hadn't heard before. Love their work. Been trying to play along with Gavin ever since. (and Danny, and Niel...let me emphasize "trying ;) Hearing Niel play in the late '70's steered me away from 10yrs of study/playing classical piano and jazz trumpet, straight to my first kit. Now, in my 60's, my idea of a good time while getting a workout in, is behind a 10pc Yamaha electronic kit (2 combined into 1 large) headphones on, Moving Pictures que'd up !
Same here ! My Mt. Rushmore is Rush, Tool, Dream Theater, and Porcupine Tree , Had to go see PT to complete it … They were phenomenal at Radio City !! I’m still buzzing from it !
My favorite band is TOOL. That being said, this is one of my favorite performances of one of my ALL-TIME favorite songs. (PT is a close second, after TOOL for me... sometimes, too close lol)
Everybody is so excited about Gavin, but this keyboard player sets the mood for PT - here and other songs... Without him its just an (excellent) progressive rock band
That drum break at 6:26 is just to die for! I must have listened to this song more than a 1000 times and I get a smile on my face every time I'm hearing this.
The best modern rock song i''ve ever heard, great lyrics, simple but cool arrangements, not much but difficult techniques and all placed in the right "environment" . Salute btw, are they still making albums ?
SW has said in a very recent interview, that PT is history. Apperently he was pissed by his band members, because he sensed, that they didn't like (anymore) what he wanted them to play
He mentioned that PT is 'history' in this (more or less recent) Facebook Q&A: facebook.com/StevenWilsonHQ/videos/1193098617377065/ I don't know when exactly in this video, but as far as I can recall, he used the phrase 'that band is history' or 'that band doesn't exist anymore' - it was a quite direct & clear statement, however (sadly enough, of course :( )
I happen to be a Portnoy Fan-boy--and obviously a RUSH fan. But I must say that after listening to PT for quite a while I had not seen a video. Enjoyed Harrison's drumming immensely. So many good musicians to enjoy on the Prog world!
@@richardgolik5386 Portnoy was my first favorite drummer, along with Dream Theater. But then Gavin came along and already stays on top of my list. But there are so many great ones close behind: Portnoy still, Dave Weckl, Vinnie Colaiuta, Larnell Lewis.
I have always said that John Bonham was both the best drummer in Rock, and my favourite drummer of all time. He still remains my favourite for being a huge part of my musical education/upbringing during his time with Zeppelin and for the sound he could get from what was basically a small kit! However, Gavin Harrison takes things to a totally different level...the guy is simply a master of his craft.
how the fuck does it suck? its a combination of NIN, dillenger escape plan, and death metal chords, your nutz. Not to mention steve wilson writes for opeth. Music thats not understood doesnt have to suck, it just doesnt "click" with you. Everyones understanding of certain generes of music comes around at different times. I didnt like jazz till my mid 20's now i love it, and my death metal days came years after my heavy metal days. Its hard to appreciate what you dont understand.
How come PT sound so good live. They must have top notch equipment and a god like engineer or two. Makes other bands seem miles away regarding quality of sound.
He has truly mastered his instrument. He has spend his whole life in pursuit of learning everything drums, and he has got it all! Ask him to do anything and he will play it.
I saw the Fear of a Blank Planet Tour 3 times, one of which was the complete album played in order. Absolutely sublime. PT probably at their peak. Devastated when Wilson pulled the plug a few years later. As much as I dig Wilson's solo stuff also, I miss the PT band dynamic. Discovered PT circa 1998 with Coma Divine and Stupid Dream, been a fanatic ever since.
@Ruben Aguilar: Oh yes, but it's also the other way around, I've witnessed that myself! Colin Edwin is also Gavin Harrison's sweaty dream! I once witnessed a brief and subtle moment of Mr. Edwin showing the working man the accents he was playing, while Gavin was álmost on his way of getting lost in translation... ofcourse Harrison picked up fluently because he wasn't yét in trouble, but Edwin noticed in time. And I bet I was one of the very few people who saw it happen, but the communication between them is phenomenal. For a brief moment, I shared a satisfying glance and smile with mr. Edwin after that, when he understood I picked up what just happened there on stage. Wow, do I miss PT live ♡
Sorrowfull Blinger That's a hard choice dude...Marco is another utterly amazing drummer. I can't have a favorite drummer anymore, there's too many stunning, stunning drummers around these days taking it to a whole new level. Although the first time I heard Gavin play I got more excited than any other drummer ever he's just so damn musical...
Seen the show in Tilburg and the power of his play was THE subject of the night after the concert, at least within the group of people that i was with on the way back to Amsterdam. Every hit...is a hit (and he hits plenty of mini-breaks still but.. they are deliberately, almost modest, in the background). Number one is still Dave DiCenso's drums in Glasgow Kiss (on John Petrucci's solo album Suspended Animation) with that bass guitar player giving a solo in the middle of a part where he's already playing over 400 notes per minute. Forget about Portnoy, forgive Gavin Harrison and many other great drummer their experimental sidesteps to the classical jazzical outskirts, Prog Rock is where they are at their best.
watchtheskies The year is 2018 almost 2019 - I live just north of Toronto Ont Canada.. Im in my 50’s and over the years Im still shocked how nobody has ever heard of Steven Wilson or Porcupine Tree.. Im a huge Rush fan but absolutely love PT and Wilsons solo stuff.. Must admit Gavin brought me to PT then when Alex Lifeson did the studio solos for Anesthetize it was icing on the cake.. Fear of a Blank Planet is my favorite album all time - then Moving Pictures...2112.. etc........ my ontario plate YYZ 2112 thanks to my wife.....
Philippe Cirse fun fact then: Steven practically covered (the resemblance is undeniable) Hawkwind's (which Lemmy was in) 'Magnu' in his song 'Out' on one of the first Porcupine Tree demos
Super intelligent music and lyrics....very rare to have both these days!! This group is off 5he charts brilliant!! So glad I get high off their music lol
I am watching this a few days after the sad passing of Neil Peart. Rush will never come back, of course, but a Geddy Lee - Alex Lifeson - Gavin Harrison trio would definitely create great music. Surely the Professor would bless them from above, behind his drum kit above the clouds
I am so happy that I took the opportunity to see them live on their Anesthetize tour. Steven Wilson and PT have changed quite a lot and I am not sure we will get another masterpiece like that anymore from him. It's ok though, musicians do move on. Still...one of the best concerts ever played in history
