Porsche 911 spin analysed - Track Mistakes #2 

Thank you for the short and clear expiation with both video and charts on weight transfer 😊

Very informative. I went into this video kind of knowing what happened but you helped me understand it way better. Thank you.

Your doing a great job of explaining the weight transfer.

Excellent video...thanks!

Thanks for the video. This explains a lot 😊😅 cheers

genius. thanks!

It's all fun and games until someone loses a headlight!

Great explanation. I learnt many of these things the hard way:)

Great presentation and explanation. I've been going through this series of steering/braking videos and trying to figure out where to practice this in my area. Hard pressed to find an open area. Also, just picked up an NB1 Miata and you've mentioned a couple times how 50/50 weight distribution isn't ideal. I haven't been able to find that video on your channel--can you point me to it? Thank you for all the work you've put into this to help new learners like me.

I'm more interested in what's happened with headlight 😅

If ever there was a need for a perfect example of over explaining the easy part and skipping over the important tricky bits, this is the clip you’re looking for.

Excellent video. I knew about traction circle from my motorcycling days and more recently about weight transfer after taking the Porsche Track Experience (the 2-day Performance Course) yearly since 2021 in Canada. But weight transfer was very noticeable last summer when I was behind the instructor in a lead-follow group. The pace was a bit slow for me and I purposely slowed down a bit after turn 3 so that I can pick up the pace into turn 4 at Mosport. Turn 4 is a left hand and a steeper downhill towards turn 5A. Coming up on the instructor I braked a tad while in the turn and it being downhill, it lightened up the rear and you could feel the rear coming out slightly but controlled. The 992 had a PDK, so I am unaware how that might change balance as compared to the two 911s I have that are manuals.

TLDR: Don't engine brake while turning, Accelerate slightly through the turn to maintain weight distribution.

Would the new "auto-blip" feature help in this case? Great explanation. Thanks.

Thank you for the great analysis. So in the first scenario, it would have been fine for the driver to trail brake into the corner but they should have completed all their downshifts in a straight line right?

What do you think about setting the car up on axle stands so that you can practice full lock steering technique (without all the actual steering load)? Just to get a handle on the range of movement, check seating position etc.

lifting the foot off the accelerator in a curve will ALWAYS make a 911 spin

looks like a typical lift off oversteer to me. Be aware even you foot is not on the brake, Engine itself generates tons of drag at no throttle acts the same as depressed brake pedal.

Robert, learn on snow at low speed? I almost wrecked a 911 in a changing radius turn back in the '80's ;) I was an apprentice on a "road test"... Left for Uni shortly after...

Nice video! It brings up an interesting question for EVs. I have a Tesla EV and wondering about leaving regen on when on a track. It is essentially like engine breaking and activates as soon as you let off the accelerator pedal. And in a Tesla it is pretty strong to allow for one-pedal driving. I guess you could maintain some accelerator pedal and do left-foot braking, but that seems touchy as far as how much accelerator to give. In my car I can also turn off regen in "track mode" but all the videos I have seen leave it on because you burn up so much energy at the track. Let me know your thoughts and whether you have discussed this with any EV folks at the track.

one of the fry egg highlight fell off thely are egly.

How long has Porsche been making "mid engine " cars VS rear engine cars? Porsche knows better.

On a mountain road thats mostly downhill, is it bwtter to be on a lower gear (no shifting involved) at higher rpms or higher gear at lower rpms? I feel like i have more control in the lower gear as the car doesn't speed up through the corners

So when you rev match on a down shift, does that not engine brake then?

Will be transitioning from a 987 Cayman to a 992 in a few months. I don’t know anything about driving a rear engined car like the 911, but at least I know I don’t know anything. Are there a few rules of thumb for driving (modern) 911’s on fast, curvy roads to at least keep you out of trouble?

Hello. I can't figure out the difference between the three laps. Driver seems to leave a very long gap between braking and turn-in in all three laps. Should have spun three times 🙂

What about PDK? Engine break applies to manuals?

Simple, no throttle, no grip in the rear

Let me simplify 10 min of video by saying simply, you need to be on the gas at the apex of a turn in a 911. Otherwise you don't have weight on the back tires, meaning you won't have grip in the back. Watch the video again and see the first two times the driver got on the gas by the apex. The third time no gas, and spin. Done this myself a few times and it can be confusing when it happens since if you're not actively thinking about adding gas at the apex, one can easily forget and a spin will commence. While the driver tried to correct with the wheel, it doesn't help unless he also gets back on the gas at the same time.

The Porsche cayman GT4 has absolutely no engine braking.