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Porsche 914 VW Type IV 2056 Build Part 6 - Valve Train Geometry & Jake Raby! [Pr. Bumblebee ep 21] 

Ian Karr
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@IanKarr
@IanKarr 3 года назад
IMPORTANT: the rocker blocks must be oriented so the notch for the tube retaining wire faces the bottom and the narrower "table" with the chamfer on the blocks faces up. While i was shooting this video, one of the blocks was upside-down. I corrected this when I did my final measurements after the cameras stopped rolling...but I didn't go back to re-shoot.
@davidmckenna6562
@davidmckenna6562 3 года назад
Ian thanks for sharing your wisdom on this topic. I’m building a 2653 kit from the TypeIV Store and was dreading this part of the build. Only dreading it because I really want to get it all just right for obvious reasons. Its hard to find information on this specific kit and welcome all the wisdom shared by others that have already been through the process. Great job! I love all your videos. They really help save me time with all the little learning experiences. Keep it up!
@IanKarr
@IanKarr 3 года назад
Thanks, David! Glad you found the video helpful. Please subscribe if you haven't already...lots more to come,
@PA28pilot
@PA28pilot 3 года назад
Another great video. Ive just ordered my swivel feet...didn't know I needed to clearance the rocker arms to accept them...my 2056 build for a 912E is just commencing. These really are invaluable! thanks.
@IanKarr
@IanKarr 3 года назад
Have fun!
@shrunkenheadfilms
@shrunkenheadfilms 3 года назад
well done Ian. And congrats on getting Jake Raby to join you.
@IanKarr
@IanKarr 3 года назад
Thanks man!
@brenttaylor7300
@brenttaylor7300 2 года назад
Ian thank you so much for these videos. In conjunction with your videos and the old Jake raby dvd I just got my engine running on a stand in my garage. I had a little different build at 2258cc.
@IanKarr
@IanKarr 2 года назад
Thanks awesome, Brent. Congrats!
@Mr10usdad
@Mr10usdad 11 месяцев назад
Fantastic video!
@IanKarr
@IanKarr 11 месяцев назад
Glad you liked it!
@r.arabian3056
@r.arabian3056 3 года назад
Man, I was waiting for someone to put this process to video! Thanks Ian and great seeing the master talk about it!
@IanKarr
@IanKarr 3 года назад
Glad you enjoyed it, ,Rob!
@jeffhingen8134
@jeffhingen8134 2 года назад
Thanks for this great video Ian. I think I watched it at least a dozen times while doing my geometry and it was invaluable for me. Just finished cutting the pushrods, little worried they did not come out as accurate as I tried for but I am hoping for the best. They seemed to come out very close to the stock rods. The whole thing has been a challenge since the CAM Card was incorrect on the lift to begin with, a lot of wasted time and frustration. Again, thank you!
@IanKarr
@IanKarr 2 года назад
Glad you found the video helpful, Jeff. Did you measure the lift after the pushrods were installed?
@Biokemist-o3k
@Biokemist-o3k 2 года назад
Ian, I have a ton of work to do to my 914!! Thank you for the videos.
@IanKarr
@IanKarr 2 года назад
Glad to help - go for it!
@Biokemist-o3k
@Biokemist-o3k 2 года назад
@@IanKarr Thank you Ian. I will stay in touch my friend.
@bugguy1967
@bugguy1967 2 года назад
Hey Ian. Personally, I figure length by swipe only. I dykem the valve tip or cap, cycle the rocker a few times, pull off the rocker, and verify. If the swipe is too low, the pushrod needs to be longer. I re-dykem, lengthen the rod and try again. It takes me a few minutes to arrive at a length. Then I go and verify the rest.
@IanKarr
@IanKarr 2 года назад
I haven't heard of that method, but I'm just an amateur...
@truecrimejungle
@truecrimejungle 3 года назад
one of these LE's just sold on 914world, reminded me of your beauty!
@IanKarr
@IanKarr 3 года назад
Wow. someone got a screaming deal!
@truecrimejungle
@truecrimejungle 3 года назад
@@IanKarr I gotta 914! I gotta 914!!! I gotta 914!!!! Sorry lol, but long story short - it's all thanks to you! you recommended 914world, someone local reached out and recommended someone in the know and they recommended the perfect car for me! 73 2.0 with a rebuilt engine by a porsche mechanic from MY city, original interior, 5 lug fuchs, and a 41 year owner who loved the crap out of it. Thanks a bajillion x infinity, you absolutely rock!!!!!!!! Now to watch all your videos again :D
@jeffhammond8969
@jeffhammond8969 3 года назад
Ian, love your work on the bumblebee! You say that you are a novice, but it sure doesn't look like it from what I see.
@IanKarr
@IanKarr 3 года назад
Thanks, Jeff. We're all always learning ;)
@alecjones8235
@alecjones8235 3 года назад
Once again great video thank you very much your car is looking great
@IanKarr
@IanKarr 3 года назад
Thanks again!
@tedzehnder961
@tedzehnder961 Год назад
If you look at your calipers closely, the pushrod ends are touching an area of the anvil which is undercut.This will make your final length to be undersize.Slide the pushrod out away from the body of the caliper and watch your measurment change.
@IanKarr
@IanKarr Год назад
Thanks, Ted. You're absolutely right. I mentioned this in one of my previous comments. Since I measured everything at the same spot, it's all relative, but you're correct...the number should be higher to represent the true length. Good eye!
@CrispysProjects
@CrispysProjects 3 года назад
Really interesting Ian, nice to see detail going into the build. I would really like to strip re setup the valve train on ours, I was never happen with how I'd found it, I guessing it was one of Jake's 2056 Kits from years ago or its been rebuilt in it more recent life We had it rolling roaded and felt it needs more setting up Keep up the great work 👍
@IanKarr
@IanKarr 3 года назад
Thanks man!
@vintage76vipergreenBeetle
@vintage76vipergreenBeetle 3 года назад
Great info. 👍
@IanKarr
@IanKarr 3 года назад
Thanks for watching!
@pfan12000
@pfan12000 Год назад
Silly me. I only noticed your pinned comment after posting. Since I have only begun to reassemble my engine 20 years after I tore it down would you be so kind as to provide a diagram showing the correct orientation of the positioning of the guide wires in the reassembled valve train.
@IanKarr
@IanKarr Год назад
I think you're referring to the retaining wire? the bends should be resting on the ends of the pushrod tubes and not touching any moving parts
@GeoHvl
@GeoHvl 2 года назад
These engines make great power supplies for Sand Rails.
@IanKarr
@IanKarr 2 года назад
Yes they do
@pfan12000
@pfan12000 Год назад
Great video. When I tore down my 1975 2.0L there were two wires inside the 2 valve covers that were wrapped around the valve lifters . What are they there for?
@IanKarr
@IanKarr Год назад
Sorry...I'm not sure what you mean about wires wrapped around lifters.
@robertfinegan4491
@robertfinegan4491 3 года назад
Another great video Ian . Just a caution on the measuring calipers for the length of the Push Rod. It looks like you are using the recessed "pockets" at the bottom of the caliper arms. This may result in you pushrods coming in too long? Depending how you zero your caliper. Close the caliper and look for any gaps at the bottom where the pockets are. Any gaps = longer than real length. . You can measure that gap and adjust your set zero accordingly? Hope this helps. -Robert
@IanKarr
@IanKarr 3 года назад
Thanks for the tip. The pockets are actually below where I was measuring. And I was careful to check and recheck the zero and measurement to make sure things were accurate. Also, I locked the caliper at the desired length and adjusted the rods until they dropped in to fit, which seemed to work well. In the next video (which is already shot) I did a final check on the lift / geometry and all worked out within tolerances. If I had to do this over again, I'd buy an electric archery cutter for $ 150 at Cabelas, which is much more accurate than measuring and cutting each one individually. Please subscribe if you haven't already...lots more coming!
@carlosramirez4911
@carlosramirez4911 Год назад
Mr. Ian hello! Can I know where buy, they birlos, spacers and shim?? Thanks, congratulation for exelent tutorials. Greetings!
@IanKarr
@IanKarr Год назад
I got mine from Tabari Andrade. You can find him on the Samba or FB
@carlosramirez4911
@carlosramirez4911 Год назад
@@IanKarr Thanks Mr. Ian Goodnight greetings México City!
@thomasbeisner7005
@thomasbeisner7005 2 года назад
Hello Ian. I hear that you learned some key lessons learned from your initial start-up and runs around the block, specifically regarding maintaining good oil pressure. Will you be posting anything on this so we can learn along with you? Seems to be a challenge for the Type 4 engines and not sure if you would still recommend the Tangerine insert or maybe it in addition to another component for the oil control valve? Either way, please let me/us know and thank you.
@IanKarr
@IanKarr 2 года назад
Hi Thomas. You can check out my conversation with Jake on the Type 4 forum. Basically, my case has a secondary oil relief system, and with the cold, thicker oil, pressure was pushing the piston out far enough to hang it up, creating an opening in the circuit. There wasn't much to see, visually, but I plan on including a little summary in the engine start video...which is almost done. I have a little OCD about releasing videos in order, so the first start can't happen without a rolling and stopping car ;). Next up will be front suspension, then first start. Jake Raby isn't a fan of the tangerine insert, but I've run them on two other 914s and haven't had any issues. If your case has the secondary relief (next to the #1 cylinder), I'd plug it up with the "slug" from European Motor Works. I was lucky I had gauges and could immediately react when I saw a pressure drop. Please subscribe if you haven't already!
@LUXpierre
@LUXpierre Год назад
Hello Lan , I would like to know where you buy the "elephant" rocker arm screws?
@IanKarr
@IanKarr Год назад
Hi. I got them from Tabari Andrade on the samba. They’re 10mm to match the 2.0 rockers. If you have 1.7 rockers you can use the 911 ones which are 8mm, available at several parts houses…
@LUXpierre
@LUXpierre Год назад
@@IanKarr ok, I already have 8mm of 911 thank you. the rocker arm ratio is 1:35? thank you so much.
@davidahrens2841
@davidahrens2841 4 месяца назад
what solution do you use with the ultrasonic machine? sorry if i asked this before
@IanKarr
@IanKarr 4 месяца назад
hot water and dawn or simple green.
@jonnylyne7018
@jonnylyne7018 2 года назад
Great video as always, I have watched this series as I am looking to increase displacement on my 912E. What was the reason for not being able to use the 2.0 litre rockers?
@mrjohnirons
@mrjohnirons 2 года назад
I believe what he is saying is that in order to use the original Porsche swivel feet adjusters in 8mm thread, you have to use the 1.7 rockers. He is using a 10mm thread swivel adjuster with the 2.0 rocker.
@IanKarr
@IanKarr 2 года назад
I did use the 2.0 liter rockers. If you want to use the OEM porsche swivel foot adjusters, you'll need the 1.7 rockers .
@IanKarr
@IanKarr 2 года назад
exactly
@jonnylyne7018
@jonnylyne7018 2 года назад
@@IanKarr got ya thanks for the clarification
@Piratelifebbq
@Piratelifebbq 2 года назад
Hey Ian, great video and about to undertake this myself, did you go with the standard grade pushrods or the HD pushrods?
@IanKarr
@IanKarr 2 года назад
Thanks, Stephen! I used chromoly PRs from the Type IV store
@davidmckenna6562
@davidmckenna6562 2 года назад
Ian, I’m going to start this today but I’m wondering wherever did you find the 10mm valve adjusters? I’ve looked everywhere but only found them listed by a guy in Germany.
@davidmckenna6562
@davidmckenna6562 2 года назад
Also I am trying to find a source for the rocker shaft shims. Type 4 store sells them in a kit with the billet spacer but they are only one thickness. I need a variety so I can slightly offset the adjuster from the valve stems.
@IanKarr
@IanKarr 2 года назад
Hi David. I bought them from Tabari Andrade. You can find him in the Aircooled Engine Builder's Group on facebook.
@danadantzler
@danadantzler 3 года назад
And you need to tighten the rocker more than hand tight
@IanKarr
@IanKarr 3 года назад
thanks for watching!
@daviddavis7855
@daviddavis7855 Год назад
That pushrod length measurement is incorrect, as the calipers are are not positioned correctly. While it does not change anything, the actual measurement number is smaller. So for others wanting to duplicate the length, it will not be correct.
@IanKarr
@IanKarr Год назад
Thanks for pointing this out, David. You are correct, and I should've pointed this out. As you mentioned, since everything is relative, the actual number on the caliper is inconsequential on my build. Hopefully people aren't using my measurements for their own builds. They should be measuring everything themselves. And using the caliper correctly :)
@davidmckenna6562
@davidmckenna6562 2 года назад
Ian I couldn’t help noticing how good your targa top looks in the background there. Just wondering what you did and used to get it to look like that? The entire car looks great as well by the way. Thanks Dave
@IanKarr
@IanKarr 2 года назад
Thanks, David. The targa is only driver quality. Just used regular detailing stuff on it.
@danadantzler
@danadantzler 3 года назад
No motor ever has different size pushrods
@IanKarr
@IanKarr 3 года назад
thanks for watching!
@Teen-uq5rw
@Teen-uq5rw 2 года назад
Never heard of a split duration cam? Intake lift is .507. Exhaust lift is .494. I needed different length pushrods
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