Porsche 996 GT3 - is it a future classic?

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Porsche 996 GT3 - is it a future classic?
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This week, TheCarGuys visit Ashgood Classic and Sportscars and pick up a stunning Guards Red Porsche 911 (996) GT3. A car that Damian owned when they were new, and is keen to find out if it is as good as he remembers.
With prices on the increase, has the 996 finally become desirable? Should the 996 GT3 be added to The CarGuys garage? Is this a Porsche that Jason actually likes? All these questions and more are answered in this week’s episode.
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@thomasbordvik 5 лет назад

The GT3 has dry-sump and is not affected by the IMS issue. Awsome car! Got one myself. Mk1 ClubSport

@davidporeilly1 5 лет назад

So guys a lot of general chat and fun but there is so much more to the 996 GT3 than you covered. (I sold them new). The chassis is the Carrera 4 Chassis as its extra reinforcement in the front gave it more rigidity. The rear seats were removed for weight saving so when the Roll cage was fitted it went back to same kerb weight. The suspension was altered by replacing plastic and rubber bushes with brass ones to improve accuracy and steering feel. This car is the only 996 that feels like a 993 and it makes other 996 models feel vague. As others have mentioned the engine is built around the GT1 race engine. This means full dry sump lubrication and no IMS issues. It also means that unlike a wet sump 996 you can run this car on slicks. The higher G forces were a big risk in a stock 996 as oil would move under g loads and risk oil starvation.

@TheCarGuysTV 5 лет назад

Thanks for the info, David - very good to know

@modernworldiscrap 5 лет назад

Mk1 production numbers: 1836 Mk2/RS: 3711 Mk1 engine: M96.72 (959, 962, 964, 993 and GT1 parts) Mk2: M96.79 (evolution without parts of 959, 962, 964, 993, GT1) Also special about Mk1, in contrast to the Mk2, is that this is the last street of a 911 that was completely hand-built at Porsche Motorsport in Weissach...

@TheCarGuysTV 5 лет назад

Wow never knew there were twice as many gen 2s

@stuartb3502 5 лет назад

Nah. Both designs based on GT1, heads based on 959 but heavily modified for larger cylinder bores. The mk2 had 964 crank case castings up to mid 2004. After that they removed some of the external cooling shapes needed for air cooled and put 996 on the casting. The mk2 engine has lighter pistons, conrods and does away with the crankshaft vibration damper as it was no longer required over 4kg less mass. More power, higher redline. The only objective way the mk1 is arguably better than mk2 is islightly softer damped which is better in the UK on bumpier roads. You can call it feedback if you like, but until you get on smoother roads and higher speeds, the mk2 is nervous and bump steers everywhere. It’s significant enough that you need to think twice/thrice about road surface ahead before overtaking on a narrower road. I use mine sometimes on the roads in this video and the combination of poor surfaces and traffic means you really can’t experience it at it’s best. Some of that’s adjustable but even with standard road geometry they do this. That may make the car sound bad. Spoiler alert...it’s not :-). Took mine out yesterday after a gap and it’s still breathtaking. BTW, the handling in the wet is not fundamentally flawed as suggested in this video. The presenter was clearly scarred by their experience. It’s just that you need to understand what a strictly mechanical (i.e. no electronics) locking differential will do if you accelerate while one driven wheel has significantly less grip (standing water). It will lock and spin you off the road. This is an analogue car which you need to drive with understanding and that’s why it will continue to be appreciated more as time passes.

@davonpointer2310 5 лет назад

996s are great cars., already a classic in my eyes... buy one!☝️

@sergiooliveira1127 2 года назад

The 996 is not a future classic... it's already a classic! I love them!

@Adzy999 5 лет назад

This roll cage is a tequipment option that fits all 996/997 models. Just incase any owners reading want one. It’s about £1600 from Porsche. A great mod. All bolt in, just mounts to seatbelt mount holes, and comes with fixings!

@Adzy999 2 года назад

@@englishjames007 blimey, I got an email to say I had a comment on an old comment! Awesome👌🏻👌🏻 And in response, how about you use your twix wrapper, and I use the Porsche factory made steel roll over bar that bolts to the strongest part of the chassis. And we see who ends up looking the best after an accident 😉👍🏼

@MrBatwa 5 лет назад

12:52 it has a beautiful back end!!

@aviationlba747 4 года назад

Wow, 2 things in this video with a beautiful rear end!

@mohammadrasoulfard-habibi3066 5 лет назад

This channel is pure class. Love to drive a GT3. Lights look good now, you are right. Absolute uproar when people saw the lights when it came out. Keep up the good work lads.

@TheCarGuysTV 5 лет назад

Thanks, Mohammad

@matteofederighi5507 5 лет назад

The 996 is a great car, can’t quite understand all the hate it gets. I drove a friend o mine’s manual 996 carrera 2 a few times and i totally agree with jason that it just feels right, the driving position, the steereing, the gearbox, everything. Lovely car. Great video guys, really enjoyed it.

@TheCarGuysTV 5 лет назад

Thank you for watching, Matteo - glad you enjoyed it.

@9MAS 5 лет назад

That cage is a retro fit. A club sport has a factory body coloured cage, nomex fabric seats, fire extinguisher etc. That’s a comfort model, not many RHD club sports out there.

@JEFFREYGRIFFIN56 5 лет назад

That is the Porsche Tequipment half cage, not aftermarket.

@koolkat969 5 лет назад

12.50 and 13.07... a bit of a distraction there. Boys will be boys, yes definitely! 😉.... Enjoyed the review as always! 👍

@IULENZA 5 лет назад

and at 13:08-13:14 they both look at her ;)

@DIRBert 5 лет назад

996’s always had great arses.

@Dudemania3000 5 лет назад

Car Guys, you probably know this but the 996 GT3 and the 996 Turbo are fitted with the Mezger engine which is an amazing engine designed for the track (initially designed for the Porsche 911 GT1 race car in TT guise) and not susceptible to the IMS bearing issue as was perhaps not common but a known issue on the standard 996 and Boxsters. I owned a new GT3 gen 1 from new in 2000 for 2 years in silver, but with a Lotus 340R and a Esprit Sport 300 in the garage also at that time and a Audi S4 V8 as my daily I let the GT3 go, which I'm very much regretting now :-( Great video guys and how about a garage update on any cars that have gone and those that are coming, also would love to hear more on the LCC Rocket.

@TheCarGuysTV 5 лет назад

Hence why there is a caption at 10:41 saying that

@Dudemania3000 5 лет назад

@@TheCarGuysTV Yeah sorry CarGuys, missed that on the first watch and very true :-) I knew all of the above as I ran a silver 996 GT3 for a year in 2000 from new and about 4 years ago was thinking about a very low mileage 996 Turbo but ended up on a R8 V10 Manual. Keep up the great work and love your channel.

@9MAS 5 лет назад

It’s a modern classic. First water cooled GT3 with a mezger engine. Prices seemed to have come down over the past year. Lovely cars. The headlights were the subject of huge research a single light unit for all functions.

@jordi3599 5 лет назад

That Mezger's N/A scream is amazing

@malcolmjohnson4249 5 лет назад

After searching for over 12 months I've taken ownership of my 05 996 GT3 in Altas Grey. Everything and more. The exhaust note from the engine is pure symphony. Handling is pin sharp.

@TheCarGuysTV 5 лет назад

Amazing to hear - congratulations

@tonychilds4677 5 лет назад

Bought a 996.2 Carrera 2 manual nearly 3 years ago. Bang for you buck there is nothing that comes close IMO. Every time I look at it and drive it, I can't help but smile. I wanted a 997 originally but couldn't find one. Now I appreciate a 997 but don't feel I am missing out on anything with the 996. Great review guys.

@Maurice_Moss 5 лет назад

I might me alone, but I always liked the 996 headlights, especially the facelifted version, they look aggressive.

@t.3465 2 года назад

You're not alone, I love them too... Don't get me wrong, I like the 911's circular lights too, but... I guess it's just refreshing to see something different once in a while.

@MagicAyrtonforever 5 лет назад

Nice Egglamp, I was given a free entry to the Porsche experience at Silverstone when I bought my Cayman in 2009.. Well worth it!! And @ 12:52 that really is a lovely shape!!

@TallDrink911 5 лет назад

This Porsche enthusiast approves of this video! Lovely car. Aged perfectly and what a noise!

@TheCarGuysTV 5 лет назад

Thank God! I was worried there for a second.

@TallDrink911 5 лет назад

@@TheCarGuysTV Nothing to worry about. You've done yourselves and the car justice. A Porsche on some twisty roads is automotive porn

@VRSProductionsInc 5 лет назад

50,000 miles! Owner is a legend. And screw drunk drivers

@AJTalks 5 лет назад

Ohlins suspension would improve the plushness of the suspension and the wet weather handling. I have been running it for years and love it. Great video!

@TheCarGuysTV 5 лет назад

Good tip, thanks AJ

@manudelmarche 5 лет назад

Agreed: I have put ohlins road and track shock absorbers on my 996 GT3. They are awesome

@ayowser01 5 лет назад

The proportions of the 996 gt3 are just perfect; it's the right size car. I prefer the gen 1 wing. I have a feeling most of the grip is mechanical anyway.

@SteveJones-gz4vd 10 месяцев назад

I had one of these back in the day, had a cargraphic exhaust fitted , Parr racing remap , upgraded brake sand suspension. Incredible car, BUT what a nightmare in the wet. I swear when you hammer the throttle my eye balls would vibrate , incrdebile car and picked up a Mk2 for 40 Grand , sold it for £ 64K 3 years later

@ghostridertom 5 лет назад

The steering feel is the best example what these do better than even todays amazing Porsches.

@waynemoore9951 5 лет назад

12 mins 56, spectacular hedge in the background

@streetcat666 5 лет назад

🍑

@paulthorpe766 4 года назад

For me the 996 GT3 is the best driving and the last neo-vintage Porsche 911 with a real analogue feel - I took my mk1 lhd car V295 HGS on a piece with Evo Car magazine (Dickie Meaden, John Hayman and Gus Gregory and me) in Italy for the Targa Florio in Oct 2000 - 11 page write up in magazine that month edition 28. Had both and MK1 was purer but MK2 (2003) had more torque and better all rounder imho. The 997 lost the feel of rotating around you and the steering was pants by comparison. Good analysis gents.

@atastefortheroad4475 5 лет назад

I have always struggled w/the front end looks, but you both make an excellent case for the car as a whole. The noise is fantastic and the fluidity of your driving (both) and your collective need for only small precise inputs makes the GT3s credentials clear. At the 50k mileage mark - even w/track days - the car looks very tidy and tight. I may need to peruse the classified. Thanks for sharing.

@000GunterGabriel000 5 лет назад

Would love a comparison with the MK1 997 GT3.

@iantownsend500 5 лет назад

The only problem with good reviews like this is it puts the price up on cars I want

@popsbubbles1242 5 лет назад

12.53mins in great bottom in the background 🧐 Just read some ones comment lol great hedge in the background what a sad bunch brilliant

@jamesparkin7322 5 лет назад

You were driving all around my local area of Egham and Old Windsor. The white LaF W could have been John Collins car from Talacrest? I drove a 996 GT3 at Paragon Porsche and I completely agree with your thoughts. It brought out a big smile!

@davidreynolds81 5 лет назад

Nice to see an older great car being reviewed. Keep it up. Also amused by the Maranellos garage drive by...

@TheCarGuysTV 5 лет назад

You noticed

@lucab.5944 5 лет назад

It has the famous Mezger Engine, just like the 996 turbo. Its completely different to the normal 996 engines and nearly invincible when treated properly ;)

@Inazuma68 3 года назад

When I made a testdrive and revved that engine….I had to buy one. What a joy!

@TheCarGuysTV 3 года назад

Good for you

@Inazuma68 Год назад

⁠still drive it, still love it 👌

@paulw5822 5 лет назад

Investment advice? :) The mark 1 GT3 were built by Porsche Motorsport dept, so ultimately may be more sought after? Engine in GT3 is Mezger and different unit to the often problematic units found in 996 C2/4 variants. These don't weigh the 1300kg mentioned, at least 1400kg with the cage fitted, feels heavy to me compared to earlier cars. Great to see you both enjoying the car, I thought you may have mentioned lack of traction aids (ex Lsd) on these adding to "driver" car credentials.

@waynemoore9951 5 лет назад

Love the black bay gmt tribute video 👍

@mrheisenberg72 5 лет назад

That is a real car 👌🏻keep em coming guys

@rockulikahuricane 5 лет назад

great review guys. I never minded the 996 front end that much. Porsche was trying to move on and do something a little more modern with it. The head light bulges were slimmed down. It's still a good looking car, though. Then everyone went nuts and the next gen looked more like the older ones. Kind of like how people flipped out when the vette went modern and lost the round taillights.

@matthewday9898 5 лет назад

Another good video guys ! Is it sad that I get excited for the close ups to see what watches you’re wearing 😂 AP and Pepsi cola good choices please do a full watch collection video👍🏻

@TheCarGuysTV 5 лет назад

Nothing wrong with a spot of watch watching

@Nikko40691 5 лет назад

My favourite car to date - After the Integra ;) Your videos are really engaging to watch and I think you've come a long way in a relatively short period.

@Shane-zx4ps 5 лет назад

Keiran B after the integra, your a Honda man like myself. Porsche is number 2 for me also, it’s just as well cause I can’t afford a Porsche

@touringteg 3 года назад

I am wondering what they think of the Integra Type R vs the 996 GT3

@LaSource911 5 лет назад

Good video that covers most of the key points. A couple of inaccuracies but doesn’t take away from the overall message. You’ve also captured the sound of the accelerating engine pretty well :) I’ve got a Guards red factory clubsport model. The 996 mk2 GT3 are my favourite GT Porsche model. So pure and analogue. As you say they sit well at the inflexion point of old school feel but with decent modern performance and pace. The 996 GT3 homologated parts for the factory 996 cup race cars. The 996 RS homologated parts for the 996 RSR race cars. I believe none of the later 997+ variants were homologation cars. Ref the engine rebuild, these are detuned race engines running at lower RPM and therefore literally bullet proof. Blown engines are unheard of even for heavily tracked cars. I’ve had some 6x mk2 996 GT3 or RS cars over the years and never an engine issue. In the unlikely event that you do have an issue, you will not need to buy a £50k engine! These can be rebuilt for far less. Good work. Check out my YT page for lots of example videos of 996 GT3 on track :)

@TheCarGuysTV 5 лет назад

Great advice & info, LaSource - thanks

@hashimkay140 5 лет назад

Who else had a minor lapse in concentration around the 12:51 mark 😋

@TheCarGuysTV 5 лет назад

Yes, sorry about that. Imagine how surprised we were when we played back the footage?

@sarcodiauk2921 5 лет назад

Great review - thanks guys 👍

@s2artfraser 5 лет назад

Glad you tested it in the DRY and you'll be back next week. Otherwise you'd be in the hedge @12.52 mate :-):-):-):-)

@93455Driver 5 лет назад

Awesome video. Think 996 turbos was a bargain, but their values seem to be going up.

@roystephens568 5 лет назад

The 996 reminds me of Lightening McQueen from the movie Cars.

@mrjb2939 5 лет назад

Another great video chaps, you are on a roll

@IULENZA 5 лет назад

I like more the 996.1 Gt3 and its one of kind wing but if you love it you definitelly should buy it. I'd buy a 991.1 Gt3, I drove it many times and imho it is the best sportcar ever!

@Tonyip83 5 лет назад

Nice Tudor GMT. Oh the car was nice too

@moon7thsky 3 года назад

You fellas rock. This is a proper review. Thank you!

@TheCarGuysTV 3 года назад

Much appreciated!

@the911meet 5 лет назад

Amazing cars! Own one almost identical to this just with ceramics. Legendary drive.

@FelixIsMyName 5 лет назад

Bloody hell, it's lighter than my Z4MR!

@ambersykes1419 5 лет назад

Great video

@bryngriffith 5 лет назад

Had it in black, loved it to bits

@Gkuljian 5 лет назад

Speaking of 911 crashes, around 1975 I remember seeing a 911 turbo that had just been totaled by a Karmann Ghia. It really was a sight. Then around 1979 a friend got a job driving cars between dealerships. He and his fellow employee were driving two 911 turbos with brand new tires which didn't work well when trying to suddenly stop. Both cars totaled. Haha. Ouch.

@damachine3 5 лет назад

I test drove two 996 Turbos today. I'm making an offer on one of them.

@TheCarGuysTV 5 лет назад

Good for you

@grahamtricker4103 5 лет назад

They had a tendency to understeer a little when pushing on a bit...

@mastershake9551 3 года назад

I mean i only have a 996.2 carrera, but im still happy. But the gt3 is just soooooo lovely :D

@ziggyfreud5357 5 лет назад

Yes. Luverly car. Learnt a few things about 996 GT3's too. Thanks guys.

@dylanh1978 5 лет назад

What a car

@para_bellum_1984 4 года назад

Rocking that Tudor GMT while driving a red 996 GT3 somehow seems appropriate.

@FenderUsa 5 лет назад

i'm pretty sure the lights everyone hated were only on the original pre facelift car, that facelift GT3 has the turbo lights

@TheCarGuysTV 5 лет назад

Same lights, just without the orange indicator bits

@FenderUsa 5 лет назад

@@TheCarGuysTV they are a different shape i.imgur.com/zDvqe5z.jpg

@niosanfrancisco 5 лет назад

Lovely car. I had an 05. Absolutely a wonderful track monster @gt3point2

@radityaindera3442 5 лет назад

I also did not mind the headlight. If anything it makes 996 stands out AND you can cover the headlight in circle with matching color & shape easily should you prefer. I just did not understand why people makes sucg a fuss about it.

@000GunterGabriel000 5 лет назад

Ok, so MK1 or MK2? I like the looks (wing) of the MK1 better.

@Dudemania3000 5 лет назад

996 Mk1 or Gen 1 for me

@joeblow1942 4 года назад

Wow, what a beauty!

@911928944 5 лет назад

They are not the fried egg headlights! The fried egg lights are on the Mk1 Cars only and were first seen on the mighty Porsche GT1. And lol at 13:07

@TheCarGuysTV 5 лет назад

Just because they took the yolk out - it’s still an egg

@911928944 5 лет назад

@@TheCarGuysTV Egg White Headlight :)

@lloydgriffiths1847 3 года назад

This proves that you don’t need much faster than this on UK roads.

@TheCarGuysTV 3 года назад

Too true, and now on to the 996 GT3 RS

@markallan106 5 лет назад

Best car channel on RU-vid

@TheCarGuysTV 5 лет назад

You're too kind. Dad.

@zrzzezolo7134 5 лет назад

Buy 996 Turbo before the prices are too high

@NathanElcoate 4 года назад

Absolutely awesome.

@michaelrobinson5592 5 лет назад

Very good video. Nice AP 👍👍👍👍

@KimiRai-lf3gn 2 года назад

Really good video: no bullshit, just talking about the car and how it feels to drive it.

@TheCarGuysTV 2 года назад

That’s what we’re all about 👍

@richardtaylor2449 5 лет назад

Thanks another GT3 more Porsches' please and i realise you had a gen 2 but could you drive a gen 1 GT3? maybe please they are cheaper smiles' per Porsche mile,,, :)) definitely a dream car but i would be like Jethro Bovington and buy a cheap 996 and upgrade... :D

@ds5590 5 лет назад

I love how he highlighted thats not actual footage😂 4:11

@TheCarGuysTV 5 лет назад

A) There are a lot of silly people out there. B) it makes the joke even funnier

@stms4411 3 года назад

Tudor GMT on wrist? Nice!

@Patr1ck2332 5 лет назад

Cracking review guys!

@TheCarGuysTV 5 лет назад

Thanks, Patrick

@timewilltell9438 5 лет назад

There's an article from Autohaus Hamilton in Australia about the IMS. google “Autohaus Hamilton Porsche IMS” The article lists all the models and engines (with engine numbers) that are affected. "The Porsche models that are prone to IMS failure and should be replaced are: All 986 Boxster models. - 987 Cayman & Boxster models up to engine number 61504715 - All 996 models (not including: GT and Turbo models) - 997 3.6ltr with M96/05 up to engine number 6950745" Before 2000 Porsche used a double row IMS Bearing which had a low failure rate, then they switched to a single row until 2005 - 2006 and this single row has had the most problems. After 2005 - 2006 Porsche stayed with the single row but increased it's size and strength and this bearing has had the least problems of all three types of bearings used from 1997 to 2008. The upgraded bearing in the 997 and 987 is unserviceable, meaning you can't reach it unless you strip the entire engine down. Some of the early production 2005 - 2006 987 and 997 might have the pre-upgraded bearing fitted, that's why the engine numbers in the Autohaus article might be helpful in determining which type of IMS bearing is installed.

@HarryandhisDinos 5 лет назад

Bring back the Lee Cooper hoodie.

@TheCarGuysTV 5 лет назад

😂😂😂😂😂😂

@mattfisher3514 5 лет назад

Love these,.... GT3 RS is also a gorgeous car

@isambardchisilwitt1232 5 лет назад

Just had a look on line and it's reserved. Curses foiled again.

@stephenlane9127 5 лет назад

Great video Damian & Jason. Please tell me if you did buy the Guards Red 996? Sounded & looked fantastic! That’s an appreciating asset going forwards!! Would love that GT3 as a weekend fun car like many of your collection cars! Lucky beggars!! (Well done guys!)

@TheCarGuysTV 5 лет назад

That car had actually sold by the time we had brought it back to Ashgood.

@stephenlane9127 5 лет назад

TheCarGuys.TV gutted for you guys and us viewers, but well done that buyer! Loved those wheels and the roll cage, really desirable version of the 996 GT3. I’ve started liking the headlamps design now!!

@parky5329 4 года назад

12:50 - Exquisite 👌

@iainmcglynn833 4 года назад

Properly old skool and fabulous Dry days only

@theprepperrevelator 5 лет назад

Currently driving 2018 M4 comp pkg and next car will be GT3 of some sort God willing! Rick

@cajanrossler8193 5 лет назад

Something off topic, but I like and appreciate your Tudor black bay GMT :D

@TheCarGuysTV 5 лет назад

Thanks 👍

@Steve-jq4st 5 лет назад

I don’t mind the lights when they are all clear as on this car but dislike when they are partially orange/amber. Still prefer the classic Porsche headlights however as on my 987.

@TheCarGuysTV 5 лет назад

Agree with all of this

@keyo525 5 лет назад

@@TheCarGuysTV Its not just the amber if you look closely the 996.11 headlights are different shape to mk2 , 2 headlights are great MK1 not so.

@ahzyar 5 лет назад

Currently have a 996 C4 which I love but will get one of these one day! But there are so few around in Australia (and they're all silver).

@Ascottie75 5 лет назад

There is a lovely blue one on PH private sale in Surrey.

@belfasttiger 5 лет назад

what about a manual v12 vantage?

@TheCarGuysTV 5 лет назад

Gareth Warnock I’m listening...

@rychartz 4 года назад

Those headlights are the best, especially the facelifted ones like we see in the video. People who say that they are an abomination are just plain idiots.

@mattylf1 5 лет назад

It’s a good looking car and seems a lot of fun to drive. Bet it’s a rocket on the track as well. I must be getting old as getting more into Porsche’s these days and these videos aren’t helping ! 😉

@TheCarGuysTV 5 лет назад

Yes, we're the same, Matty. Almost all of the current 'wants' are Porsche.

@rpm-qv7rw 2 года назад

The 996.1 GT3 is more beautiful especially the rear spoiler. The 996.2 is the start of the iron board spoilers and not the subsequent models as mentioned in the video.

@TheCarGuysTV 2 года назад

I have a soft spot for the .2 as I owned it from new

@paulbellas8797 2 года назад

mk2 Headlights look funky. Should have kept the gt1 look or gone oval. MK1 GT3 better looking car IMHO!

@thedrvn 5 лет назад

availible at 40+k in 2019 I'll come back in 3yrs when theyre 80k+

@sp00ky1969 3 года назад

Loving your content! So, would you have a 996 GT3 or a 964 if you could pick only one? I’m looking at both of these at the moment, having toyed with the idea of a 599 but the potential costs are of concern.