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Portra 400 / Fuji Pro 400H Comparison 

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In a dramatic turn of events, Jason realizes portra 400 and fuji pro 400h aren't that different after all.
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@PrestonTalkZZZ
@PrestonTalkZZZ 2 года назад
I'd say the biggest difference between the two films is one is still being produced
@PissBoys
@PissBoys 2 года назад
Mark my words, we’ll see Fuji stop all film production in the next 4-5 years. They’ve already publicly stated their intent to throw all their weight into their medical and pharmaceutical arms.
@ignaciotovar6078
@ignaciotovar6078 2 года назад
This was brutal
@jstnhpkns
@jstnhpkns 2 года назад
I came here to write this!
@TheNegative
@TheNegative 2 года назад
LMAO!!!
@thelilcanadiankid
@thelilcanadiankid 2 года назад
:(
@DogsandFilm
@DogsandFilm 2 года назад
Baxter's appearances: 1. 00:19 2. 01:53 3. 02:45 4. 04:52 5. 05:54 6. 06:58 7. 07:53 Thanks amigos
@joecadzow4482
@joecadzow4482 2 года назад
This is his channel
@Amphibax
@Amphibax 2 года назад
Tank you
@KonSimpl72
@KonSimpl72 2 года назад
PSA, bruh.
@ModernAtomX
@ModernAtomX 2 года назад
Hello again old friend
@DogsandFilm
@DogsandFilm 2 года назад
@@ModernAtomX hello amigo
@mister-monkeyman
@mister-monkeyman 2 года назад
Baxter needs his own show called the Barkroom
@Primojay
@Primojay 2 года назад
I appreciate you a lot for this
@mitchellhughes5180
@mitchellhughes5180 2 года назад
Nicely done
@MrHaydnSir
@MrHaydnSir 2 года назад
“especially the reds, oranges, knees and toes” you never fail to make me laugh out loud, genuinely 💛✌️
@Notso_Wild_Bill
@Notso_Wild_Bill 2 года назад
Big grins, he even makes herpes funny.
@edshotsdotcodotuk
@edshotsdotcodotuk 2 года назад
Wedding photographers loved 400H as the white dress comes out white and not a bit yellow. Honestly that’s it. Everything is just more neutral when it comes to printing. It can be warmed up in post whereas Portra can’t easily be cooled. Worked at labs for over 15 years and had most wedding photographers shoot Fuji on the day and some may go for Kodak for the engagement shoot for that warm vibe.
@areallyrealisticguyd4333
@areallyrealisticguyd4333 2 года назад
I think the neutral tones work best with Instax and Provia 100f but seems to be more situational with color negative. Almost always found myself wanting Portra over 400h in like 98% of situations. Still sucks that it's gone and even worse is that it's being price gouged despite Fuji confirming there was enough supply for awhile.
@lanycera
@lanycera 2 года назад
Idk man. I don't think it's just wedding photographers...I genuinely prefer the Fuji tones over Portra, and I mainly shoot portrait and editorial. It's also retains colours so much nicer when overexposing.
@edshotsdotcodotuk
@edshotsdotcodotuk 2 года назад
@@lanycera of course not only wedding photographers :) they just benefited more than others. I also prefer Fuji's more true to life look preferring Superia 400 for my colour work back in the day.
@edshotsdotcodotuk
@edshotsdotcodotuk Год назад
@Linda Ultramax 400 may be the closest thing these days. Not as heavy a yellow/warm cast as most Kodak stock. Fuji C200 is now manufactured in the USA so almost certainly made in the Kodak factory and some do believe it's just Gold 200 inside. Yet to see enough results or used it myself to determine what is like exactly.
@mattbass
@mattbass 2 года назад
I would sell my soul for a video with more comparisons between lab scans and the home scans
@ellielee201
@ellielee201 2 года назад
I'm still salty to this day that 400h was cancelled
@kleanish
@kleanish 2 года назад
was the KKK photographed on 400H or something?
@jakobmueller2065
@jakobmueller2065 2 года назад
So sad that 400h is gone, always preferred it over Portra, especially for Darker Skin which Portra often butchers
@flannelcommander
@flannelcommander 2 года назад
Ektar handles darker skin tones much better than 400H. At least in my experience in the studio
@MattDueskable
@MattDueskable 2 года назад
Ektar and Pro Image (sadly only 35mm…) are infinitely better than Portra--160 is the only speed that holds a torch
@ThePhotoDept
@ThePhotoDept 2 года назад
As an expert, I have to say this is the best film comparison video ever made.
@kevlarnegative
@kevlarnegative 2 года назад
I must say, It makes sense now. Daniel Milnor made a point on his channel that almost no film is actually rated at box speed but around half a stop or a stop under advertised, so technically overexposing by roughly one stop would mean exposing correctly. (Sorry for my grammar) Thank you for your film sacrifice. For science!
@davidm5790
@davidm5790 2 года назад
It’s more nuanced than that. In terms of exposure, dan’s point was more about black and white high iso films. When you shoot film, the light causes a chemical reaction which varies depending on the amount of light and the film negative. Other factors include development chemicals and temperature. So for color film, shooting portra, for example, one or two stops over exposed increases saturation and provides a better rendition for portraits. It isn’t simply about increasing the exposure of the image. The reason why so many people are confused by Dan’s video is because the factors are so varied in the outcome of a film photo that simply reducing it to: over exposing = better, doesn’t explain it well enough (not that he said that)
@tiansili
@tiansili 2 года назад
No, overexposing means exposing for shadows in this case with film latitude preserving highlights.
@madacenyc
@madacenyc 2 года назад
That serial killer line had me dying 😂
@TheBigpimpballer
@TheBigpimpballer 2 года назад
I’d love to see Kodak Gold vs Superia. It sucks because right when I found my film stick to use as my work horse, they cut the supply two months later. It is what it is at this point I guess. Ektar is a solid fill in choice I just wish I had different box speeds to start with.
@areallyrealisticguyd4333
@areallyrealisticguyd4333 2 года назад
Superia Premium definitely feels like a solid choice. Doesn't have the green casts like regular superia does but has grain similar to Pro400h. Too bad it's only sold in Japan for some reason
@wilferrero244
@wilferrero244 2 года назад
Wouldn't be opposed to seeing a comparison between your two favorite b&w film stocks
@briglnai
@briglnai 2 года назад
seconded: Kodak T-Max 100 vs Ilford FP4 plus
@BrackDynamite
@BrackDynamite 2 года назад
@@briglnai a better comparison would probably be delta 100 seeing as FP4 is a classic cubic grained film (like Tri-X, HP5).
@Zecamilleo
@Zecamilleo 2 года назад
Portra 400 still exists, pro 400h it's just a memory. that's the difference between then.
@Zeoklis
@Zeoklis 2 года назад
I can't even remember his na- I mean film speed
@quasarcreator
@quasarcreator 2 года назад
I got 13 rolls in my fridge, still exists for me..... for now :'(
@lemon58421
@lemon58421 2 года назад
@@quasarcreator Me too ! 4 packs of 5 rolls in the fridge :-) and still good till 2023
@alanherbert93
@alanherbert93 2 года назад
I mean this in a complementary way, Baxter lowkey built like a scantron
@artieghosh529
@artieghosh529 2 года назад
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN
@gabrielgavalo5601
@gabrielgavalo5601 2 года назад
Talk technical to me. I love this. Great coverage on both film stocks. Great execution and of course top notch humor. I’m addicted to your videos
@JfhuTheJedi
@JfhuTheJedi 2 года назад
I'm saving my last Pro 400H for photography in the forest or when I go back up to Oregon. I really like the greens that it produces in a forest.
@ai-man212
@ai-man212 2 года назад
So, you're an Oregon Transplant?
@Kevon420
@Kevon420 2 года назад
swagg.
@IllKeepALightOn
@IllKeepALightOn 2 года назад
I love the personality that comes through… “… the only way I can feel anything anymore.” Makes the channel more fun and unique
@KieranJDodd
@KieranJDodd 2 года назад
Very cool and informative video Jason, it'd be interesting to see the difference between a scan at home and a lab scan side by side. Keep up the work.
@orangepeel79
@orangepeel79 Год назад
Just discovered your channel. Photography needs this seriousness. Important work. Well done. 🙃
@jameshammond89
@jameshammond89 2 года назад
love it mate, great stuff
@louisrimmer6544
@louisrimmer6544 2 года назад
It’s so funny the Portra vs pro400h argument. One this I know is that if you live somewhere incredibly green like Wales, or the U.K. more generally, the tones of pro400h pop like firework, even on slightly overcast days. They’re both just so good though
@injeolmi6
@injeolmi6 2 года назад
I like Thursdays thanks to you, Jason. Thanks.
@facuaw
@facuaw 2 года назад
This is a really good video, i would love to see more like this!
@simonpeter8480
@simonpeter8480 2 года назад
this is exactly what i needed! thank you baxter, i mean jason
@MWigforss
@MWigforss 2 года назад
One of the most important questions of our time; Thank you!
@victorprinciotta1250
@victorprinciotta1250 2 года назад
Jason! Love your videos but no mention or test for the fourth emulsion layer with 400h? It was specifically developed to combat the frequent mixed lighting in Japan (esp. fluorescent light) which is probably why it rendered the night shot better. Also, Kodak was developed with white skin in mind and Fuji with (relatively) browner skin in mind.
@TheCactusTheif
@TheCactusTheif 2 года назад
Great video as always, Jason, but when is the video on 110 film?
@SergioMusel
@SergioMusel 2 года назад
Greener tones of Fuji Pro 400H is probably to make skin look whiter, which is very much sought after in portraits around Asia🤓
@RobbieMaynardCreates
@RobbieMaynardCreates 2 года назад
Another awesome video and comparison. I started to come around on Pro 400H now that its dead and gone. Such a damned shame that I was too cool for it when it was here. RIP.
@Seimstudios
@Seimstudios 2 года назад
This was so good and fun. As someone who makes digital emulations as well as shoots film, I've learned that even the same stock is often so different depending on processing etc. I would also love to see a digital side by side in these scenes as a modern control, but I know you would feel filthy for doing it.
@SpacemonkeySTI
@SpacemonkeySTI 2 года назад
thanks for the video!!!!!
@lukemoll2521
@lukemoll2521 2 года назад
Would love to see HP5 compared with another B&W film (Tri-X?)
@yinansun6881
@yinansun6881 2 года назад
Waiting for this for years
@nicin9669
@nicin9669 2 года назад
Hes back finally 🤟🏽🤟🏽🤟🏽
@mannyfigueroa815
@mannyfigueroa815 11 месяцев назад
You’re so real. Subscribed.
@themaestro7922
@themaestro7922 2 года назад
Lots o' work went in to this. Thanks for making me feel I just spent months stuffing my freezer with 400h when i could've stuck with Portra.
@dirtywater5336
@dirtywater5336 Год назад
the subtle, dry humor was appreciated
@DLivingston
@DLivingston 2 года назад
I happen to order some Pro400h the day before they made the announcement. It sits in the freezer because I am not much of a fan... Thanks for the comparison though, its nice to see the two side by side here.
@Hk843
@Hk843 2 года назад
Great comparison! Guess I will be using lomo metropolis
@birdie399
@birdie399 2 года назад
The difficulty with film stock is that every roll is so expensive. You can’t buy film at the supermarket checkout anymore. Thanks for the video.
@cathydixon5852
@cathydixon5852 2 года назад
Unfortunate but true. I try to make those film shots count
@DLivingston
@DLivingston 2 года назад
How about we get a comparison of Portra 800 to Cinestill 800t.
@Vangalther
@Vangalther 2 года назад
kind of obvious
@snakeytales
@snakeytales 2 года назад
I’ve made one, feel free to check it out.
@Gneisenau2
@Gneisenau2 2 года назад
Provia & Ektachrome, both pro level ISO 100 slide films and somewhat famous for their way of blue color rendition. Could be a very interesting comparison.
@acr6715
@acr6715 2 года назад
Using my lunch to watch this, it's gonna help me get through the day
@jamesbarker9774
@jamesbarker9774 2 года назад
Just picked up a 5 pack of 120 Pro400h to take to Vermont. Really excited it give it a try
@AselaArt
@AselaArt 2 года назад
Great Video! I'd love see an Ektar vs Ektachrome comparison in 120 and 35mm.
@Pilgrxm
@Pilgrxm 2 года назад
Found a full box of Pro400H at the camera store the other day, I’m taking it with me from Texas to NY today if this plane will ever take off. Hoping for some cool shit.
@jonnyclark1916
@jonnyclark1916 2 года назад
This was such a good comparison
@nimbarkcj
@nimbarkcj 2 года назад
Just wanna say that I'm a big fan of yours
@szelag
@szelag 2 года назад
Really good A/B comparison. Would totally be interested in more of this. How about with... slide film?
@RJGarrish
@RJGarrish 2 года назад
Can you do a video on how you do those cool 3d parallax edits with your photos at the end of your videos?? Ive been dying to find a way to do that!
@BrunoBelcastro
@BrunoBelcastro 2 года назад
Nice one mate. I just loaded a roll of Pro 400H into a back and it’s cloudy. So now I know that back will stay out for another day 🤦🏻‍♂️
@awolphotos
@awolphotos 2 года назад
Yes I have
@chadolson5537
@chadolson5537 2 года назад
I am happy to see Monica in your video. You should include her more often. Personally, I have found Fuji film to be much better than Kodak, although I shoot both. I shot some black and white Fuji Acros II 100 that looks like digital (very clean) and some regular Fuji Superia x-tra 400 color stuff that looks great that I get at my local lab.
@ckott99
@ckott99 2 года назад
I myself have pondered the Big Question. But since I don't have a camera with a swappable film back, the Big Question I couldn't answer. Thank you! But now of course it doesn't matter much. I have a few of rolls of 400H left in my freezer stock. Yes indeed, 'overexpose' (de-rate the exposure index rating) to get the best results, that's been my general experience for color negative film.
@endnami
@endnami 2 года назад
miss it so much!
@arvinchau1030
@arvinchau1030 2 года назад
Nice comparison. The lab owner told me pro400h is actually a 200iso film. Maybe that’s why shooting at box speed makes its shades grainy. I would say the ture value of pro400h lies on its ability of being pushed to 1600iso and still maintain a relatively neutral color comparing to portra 400/800.
@capowafy1
@capowafy1 2 года назад
Dude I love your content!!! But giving that guy a “dunking tutorial” made me laugh so hard!!! So Good!
@fatherdeha
@fatherdeha 2 года назад
wish every film comparison video was like this exactly
@Sreybk
@Sreybk 2 года назад
I am getting ready to send exposed rolls of Ektar 100, Fuji Superia X-TRA 400 and some Kodak Ultra 400 to The Darkroom. They do good work. Another good video.
@RYANPARKPHOTOGRAPHY
@RYANPARKPHOTOGRAPHY 2 года назад
Yes, I always over exposed pro400h! Havent used it for a while but forget about it, pro400h is too pricy now. I am comparing provia 100 and Ektarchrome. please do this one as well!!
@istapleton11
@istapleton11 2 года назад
I think inherently film stocks overexposed by like a 1/2 stop tend to get the negative density better than when shot at box speed. It’s a subtle difference but unless you’re shooting with a very specialized film stock that way of doing it, in my mind, makes the negatives come out the way it was intended.
@neonvertigo7710
@neonvertigo7710 2 года назад
would love to see a comparison between lomo 800 and Portra 800
@Nashvillejasonwain
@Nashvillejasonwain 2 года назад
Would love to see a comparison of all the different flavors of portra
@aribetterlari
@aribetterlari 2 года назад
OMFG Daddy Jason and Caleb uploaded todayyyyyyyyyyyy
@mylesinthesky
@mylesinthesky 2 года назад
more comparisons at night or under tungsten light would be nice because it seemed that the Fuji Pro 400H looked a lot more pleasant in the last shot.
@filipecostapt6427
@filipecostapt6427 2 года назад
Fuji Pro 400H is a great film for night or interiors. It would be great to see a video shooting 400H in those conditions, especially shooting only interiores, before it gets completely impossible to buy it at reasonable prices
@Zorvosnagy
@Zorvosnagy 2 года назад
Okay my only question is how you do that zooming effect on the last shoots of this video?! amazing!
@gustsmith9188
@gustsmith9188 2 года назад
So, I finally tried your method of exposing fuji pro 400h at ASA 200 on a couple of rolls. The results were the best I've ever gotten from that film. Too bad I discovered this with only a few rolls left in my freezer. Anyway, great comparison.
@TomasWatchReviews
@TomasWatchReviews 2 года назад
you still gonna edit it in photoshop the way you like while processing negatives. It there still a difference..?
@goranpancevo
@goranpancevo 2 года назад
0:28 Guy Fieri finally recognized as a philosopher! :) Awesome @grainydays :D
@rhyanpaul
@rhyanpaul 2 года назад
30 years ago it was all about NPH160 and Pro160s - that’s what all my commercial clients wanted. Some days they were lucky if they got Gold100 that had been sitting on the studio window ledge all summer……
@astragalizont
@astragalizont 2 года назад
Hey, the effect on the endcard is so nice, could you tell us the name or the way to do it? Nice comparison thanks for that!
@sircitrus
@sircitrus 2 года назад
great video as per. still sad about what happened to lando
@thestephengilmore
@thestephengilmore 2 года назад
I’d like to see a comparison of Portra and Lomography 400 or even Portra 160 vs Ektar!!
@resiyun
@resiyun 2 года назад
Nice, you got a REAL Hasselblad back.
@rebeccasuur
@rebeccasuur 2 года назад
Laughing about myself thinking what a great idea it was zu take photos of actual color charts. Would never have thought of this. Must be the reason you are sitting on this side of the camera and I on the receiving side.
@scotthullinger4684
@scotthullinger4684 2 года назад
I always liked to use Kodak film, but then have my prints made in a lab which used Fuji photo paper. But I also liked the Fuji film itself.
@fionngijsemans4475
@fionngijsemans4475 2 года назад
I feel like Gold 200 and Fujicolour C200 might be an interesting comparison, the budget side of things for all us non-hasselblad owners
@fotogrami26
@fotogrami26 2 года назад
I use Kodak Portra 400 Film Simulation on my XT4 because of you. 😁
@JanneRanta
@JanneRanta 2 года назад
Ribsy made a comparsion of these two for people with darker skin. Apparently the fuji is pretty flattering. That video should be an honorable mention in this.
@fakename287
@fakename287 2 года назад
Kodak Gold vs Fuji Superia, since they seem to be the standard recommendation for "cheap" film stock (Might be hard to compare since box speed is different)
@sebastiann7467
@sebastiann7467 2 года назад
maybe Fuji C200 is worth a shot
@___shanaaa
@___shanaaa 2 года назад
easily becoming my favorite youtuber lol
@FreezerKing
@FreezerKing 2 года назад
I guess Ektachrome and Provia would be a good comparison, they have the same ISO and the same general colour palette going on.
@senbilverglate9638
@senbilverglate9638 2 года назад
Is there any way to get my lab to scan Portra to look like the home scans, they always make it contrasty, id scam at home but I do not have the money for that
@MrChrodo
@MrChrodo 2 года назад
Adox Color Implosion for wedding photography! Yeah, considering how Fuji and Kodak were similar priced, i don't get the praise 400H received. Then again, what else did Fuji had in 120 with ISO400?
@wewuwewu
@wewuwewu 2 года назад
now i know what those interchangeable backs r for
@AntonioManaligod
@AntonioManaligod 2 года назад
What's your audio setup? I have the same mic but you're settings make your voice sound so crips and clean
@river3808
@river3808 2 года назад
I kinda like Portra underexposed by 2 stops - retains more color in the greens
@Jakob8
@Jakob8 2 года назад
I'd love a provia VS ektachrome vid just like this!
@erwnalejo
@erwnalejo 2 года назад
That Lomo Metropolis diss had me dying 🤣🤣🤣
@KNURKonesur
@KNURKonesur 2 года назад
I would ask that question if I could affotd colour film! As a sworn b+w shooter I wonder why HP5 is so good but can I get the same results with cheaper film? :D
@CaptainPsychopath69
@CaptainPsychopath69 2 года назад
If you had to shoot film with a gun... Wich film would you shoot?
@mizuhokusuha
@mizuhokusuha 2 года назад
Please compare Kodak Ektar 100 with Fujifilm Velvia 100 OR Provia 100F
@matthewkutz3649
@matthewkutz3649 2 года назад
Tri-x vs HP5, same comparison with box and overexposure, then adding pushing +1/2
@lizzipedersen9137
@lizzipedersen9137 2 года назад
I don’t know of you’ve done it before but ilphord hp5 vs. Kodak tmax 400
@dylanhill6736
@dylanhill6736 2 года назад
I love Fuji Pro 400H! Often I use Portra 400 for special projects.
@leejamesphoto
@leejamesphoto 2 года назад
Im glad you covered the 'reds, oranges, knees and toes' most people leave that out but you know your shit
@HennessyPatrick
@HennessyPatrick 2 года назад
Compare Lomo 800 and Portra 800......uhhhhhplease.
@anthonydirienzo1354
@anthonydirienzo1354 2 года назад
I would like to see Ilford Hp5 Plus next to Kodak T-max....
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