I can see why people say someone is a poser when someone says he likes Metallica and like Ice-t or something but it's just dumb. Just listen to the music you like. I listen to many artists sometimes I listen more rap and sometimes metal or blues it also depends on my mood. Why is it even a thing to call someone a poser for not liking only metal bands...
Yesterday I literally went from listening to Celtics Frost to immediately listening to the Mama Mia soundtrack so that counts as Abba😅 so yeah I also believe people can have music taste that extremely differ.
There's an idea! Turn other commercial/mainstream names into more "brutally pleasing" names! I bet a lot of great band names could come out of something like that, & if you've got a band there's the added bonus of familiarity in using such monikers, as subconsciously people might be more drawn to it without knowing exactly why! It's also a tactic used in branding/advertising!
I completely agree! When I went to my first Metal concert some years ago I was called a poser because I hadn't yet heard of many of the bands that a fellow concert goer was talking to me about. Instead of putting people down and calling them a poser you should embrace them into the community and educate them.
And they're wondering why nobody wants to really fully join-in! I mean, it's a brotherhood and lots of respect comes if you love Metal or Extreme music, but they literally cry over the smallest things: pAnTeRa, Deathcore not being really accepted besides it's own community, what counts vs what doesn't count as Metal, how good the vest looks (ok, don't get poorly made patches but still)!
Wanna know what a true Poser is? It's a metal band that lies about where they're from a frontman who tells local metal bands that they have a recording label of their own( ( when they're unsigned) They're signing bands... (how can they?) They are the true posers
1:29 Sometimes people who like Slayer are also called posers. Because some people like to call posers the people who listen to the more ''popular'' metal bands
+SmegSlebChef Wtf I didn't say I don't like slayer in fact I love Slayer. I'm just descrubing the behaviour of some people who like to call other people posers
Yeah slayer went mainstream and now everyone is wearing slayer tees because mainstream just like tallica or maiden but I'm a true fan of FUCKING SLAYER love all teh shit they put out esp RAINING BLOoOoOOOD!!!
the main ones in clothing shops now is (the average store) guns n roses, nirvana, pink Floyd, Alice Cooper, led zeppelin, Metallica, rolling Stones, you get joy division every now and then. I love how you say oh you like such and such out of excitement and they get mad at you because they have no idea what you're on about so you just walk away going alrighty...
I agree, but I cannot stand EDM, rap, or pop, and it pains me most of the time to have to call those genres music when discussing music. I love pretty much everything else outside of that, of course quite a few metal sub-genres, but also jazz, baroque, blues, even a little country now and again is fine. As far as I'm concerned, if it's got a good message, and especially if it's made with real and natural instruments, I'm not too picky and won't bitch (too much).
You have the most amazing personality, you really are gentle with what you say in a non push over way, and are very excepting, I hope some people in the metal community take something away from this, there are a lot of younger teens who are trying to understand the genre and need the older ones to guide them, not ridicule them for not knowing. Thanks so much for making this video. We want to keep metal alive, and we wont be around forever, we need to recruit the young ones as well to carry the torch.
I am a metalhead in heart, but i don't have long hair, i dress casually and also like music outside of the metal genre. Music like Ska, reggea, punk, blues, Jazz, classical and Celtic folk. And to top that, me and my girlfriend are taking salsa lessons, and next on our list are merengue and bachata. All three Latin dance styles. And we're pretty good at it if i may say so. What i'm trying to say is that at the end it's just music. And it's not the way you look, that makes you love the music, it's the music itself that does that. And music has no dress code, it's not forbidden or a sin to listen to a certain style but not act or dress like it. and people tend to forget that. It's healthier to live with an open mind. I also used to kick against people who didn't like heavy metal. I also used to have long hair and wear black clothes But that was 10 years ago. I have learned over the years that what i wear or the music that i listen doesn't identify me. It's who i am and what i love to do with my life that identify me. And if i want to go to a Blackmetal concert in casual clothing, i go to a blackmetal concert wearing casual clothing. Because you know what, i know what i like, and i don't have to prove that to anyone else.
I definitely see where you're coming from. like when someone tells me how they're so into metal. yet, when I ask what bands they like, they always mention hard rock and grunge bands. Unless they're new to the genre,That's always mildly annoyed me. but when they're someone who's the real deal but they like a few core bands on the side, I have no issues with that. it all comes down to if their heart is genuinely in it, and they're not just trying to impress people based on "durr. look how diverse my moozik tayse is. am I impressing anyone yet?" and imo, and I know someone will take me out of context or send me loads of crap over this, but it's kind of the same way with the word "elitist" I swear on it, everytime I see someone critique a band like babymetal or some core band, (legit criticisms, not the immature "dey ems pozurs" arguments) they always get lambasted by people screaming "elitist!/you don't like it therefore you're an elitist/hur hur typical elitist" myself and friends have even been called elitists, just because we can tell some sub genres apart. or just because we like death metal/black metal. I wish I was joking. in some cases, these anti-elitists can come off worse than the elitists themselves. now I got my little tangent out the way, good vid as always. :)
+C0ffeeChugger94 It's funny because I have had similar experiences. Why? Because I can tell the difference in subgenres. And I am not a subgenre basher either. Do I like power metal? Not really, but I will never bash the music, bands, or fans. It's still a legitimate branch of metal. People just get their feelings hurt when you say you don't like what they like.
Good thing Iv'e never encountered both, I'm not an elitist but I can definitely tell, sub genres of metal too, I guess both sides really have flaws, some elitist are really just plain pain in the ass but also can be said on some anti-elitist, I myself listen to Babymetal, and all the other mainstream genres and sub-genres of metal and I can always see some critiques towards the bands that I listen too, but it's their opinion, and I truly respect that everyone has their own taste after all, I just find it more fun enjoyable, if your a metalhead who can listen to almost anything from genres to genres and into sub-genres, that's just the way I do, and the way I listen to music..
People throw out the elitist thing all the time. I listen mostly to black metal from Norway, Finland and Sweden. I get called an elitist and a hipster all the time, especially when I have an unpopular opinion on any other band. It pisses me off honestly, just because I favour black metal; I don't think it's better than any other type of metal, it's just what I prefer.
what pisses me off the most is when pop musicians or other celebs, who are totaly not into metal, run around in bandshirts. I mean, Justin Bieber in a Metallica shirt!? Miley Cirus in a Maiden shirt!? That just kinda looks wrong i think.
JB actually said that he wants to make his next album 'more metal'... also there is/will be a hipster store that sells Slayer T-shirts to ppl who only wear that cause few ppl wear it, you know hipsters Fucking kill me/them (preferably them) pls...
+Helloweeny Gamma-Maiden How do you know their not into metal? Because they play pop music? That's BS. I don't know if she still is or not, but Demi Lovato was a metalhead early in her career. She mentioned on Leno that she liked Dimmu Borgir, Job For A Cowboy, Abigail Williams, The Dillinger Escape Plan, The Devil Wears Prada, Underoath, Maylene & The Sons Of Disaster, Lamb Of God, and Dr. Acula. She decided to become a Pop Artist more for business reasons than anything, because she realistically thought she'd have better chance of finding success on that path.
+Helloweeny Gamma-Maiden Honestly I don't concern myself with these kinds of people. Them faking (or actually being legit fans yet making pop music) doesn't affect me or the bands I listen to. I don't pay much attention to "artists" like those because those scenes are irrelevant to me. I'd rather just focus on metal and the other few other types of music that I like.
Why? Because you don't associate those people with metal. But maybe they really like these bands. Many people who don't seem metal have their favorites in Metal. What makes me cringe is H&M are selling RAMONES T-Shirts and all the dumb youngsters are running around, wearing the shirt from one of my favorite bands even though they certainly never heard, albeit would not at all like the music. Hell, they probably think RAMONES is some dumb label. Ugh!
You can listen to all different kinds of music and still be a metalhead. I'm goth but I listen to black and thrash metal, emo (not scene), punk rock, rock, and goth music. You don't have to limit yourself to one genre(:
@@paulhetrick1759 cupcake you don't get to decide who is a metalhead and who isn't. Your comments pretty much prove you are a elitist. Get over yourself (;
I will not judge you based on who you are, and neither would the scene people I know. Personally, I would like to see more female metalheads. I have the feeling not few girls wouldn't like metal just because it's not cool in their friends/families (or publics) eyes, which is sad. Metal is (usually) great music, and its for everyone. Conversely, there may be some girls for who "attention" is actually the main reason for "liking" it. Then again, that's probably true for guys too. *shrugs* Just ignore it. Hating is not metal enough to be important :P
Well, like Wraithlord88 already said, there are posers both among guys and girls. But girls metalheads being posers? Hell no. To be honest, I'm not much older than you, and I've never heard it yet
Lost Soul I've met both girls and guys posers, meaning, they were not listening to metal but they were dressed up as metalheads (band t shirts too). Now THAT is lame..
Stelios Pasiardes Seriously? I've never seen it go that far. I know people who heard like one song of the band and then represent themselves as a huge fans of that band, but not even a single song? Never seen it
A poser to me is someone who wears a t-shirt or other clothing of a band, but aren't a fan or knows nothing about the band or couldn't name you one song. If you don't know or like the band, than don't wear the fucking shirt or clothing! We should not be calling each other posers in the Metal community. We should be attacking trendy, crappy celebrities wearing Metal shirts and other clothing. They are the true posers!
Posers: Just because it's in Walmart doesn't mean you should buy it. Ac/Dc shirts, Nirvana shirts, Metallica shirts, those bands mean a lot to a lot of people, and just because you know "Back in Black," "Smells like Teen Spirit" or "Enter Sandman" DOES NOT mean that you know that band. I see so many rock, metal and grunge band shirts floating around and I ask people about them sometimes, and they just blank. "What's your favorite Metallica album?" "Oh.. uh... ya know... the one with 'Enter Sandman' on it..." Here's a rule of thumb: If you don't genuinely like the band, can't name at least 2 albums you actually like by the band, or only know their popular songs, it's probably not a good bet to wear that band's logo on your shirt.
Oh, and DONT MAKE A BATTLE JACKET UNLESS YOU ACTUALLY LIKE METAL BANDS AND KNOW THEM WELL ENOUGH TO WEAR THEM ON A VEST. So many kids walk around with A7x, Sleeping with Sirens, other rock and pop band patches on their "battle vests". I'm sorry, but no, that's appropriating metal. It's part of metal culture to have a battle vest, don't shit on our sacred uniform with your rock and grunge. Sure, if you like a rock band, you can like them. But don't dedicate a battle vest to them unless you have 10-20 (preferrably MORE) metal bands that you actually LIKE (see above guidelines as suggestion) that you'd be able to sport every day and be able to get into a conversation about.
Álvaro Bass No, but they're not in the metal community, and they don't know anything about metal. If you see an Indian family wearing their traditional garb do you go out and buy one, and then stamp your country's flag on it? No. Metal is a musical culture, the same idealogy applies. Now I'm not saying you CANT, but metal fans will likely frown on you if you do.
Álvaro Bass A culture involves music. Metal could be considered a culture, the same way we consider 80's style and 70's style to be culture. Because it had an origin, a common style of dress, music and a lot of other aspects of culture. We consider "retro" to be a cultural milestone in our history, just like the rock and metal movements were and still are
I don't understand why it's not ok to like popular bands like: Slipknot, Slayer, and Metallica! Slipknot actually introduced me to more extreme metal bands like: Cannibal Corps, Bathory, obituary and even Mayhem!
I guess cause the more popular something is, the easier it is to know about it, so all cause you like those popular groups, it means to elitists that you're a "poser". Much like how people who only watch Avengers movies or only play Call of Duty are seen as fake movie buffs or gamers.
Not everyone thinks that way. Those are gateway bands and a lot us used those bands to get into even more underground bands. I still enjoy gateway bands, but they're far from being my favorites.
It's ok as a beginner but not to only have patches of popular bands or T shirts: everyone can wear a Metallica, AC/DC, Slipknot shirt etc just because it's trendy and thinks that those bands are the best thing ever! I like when people wear bands that not everyone knows at first sight like idk, a Deathcore band (honestly, how many even would know of Suicide Silence or Lorna Shore and those are popular in Deathcore), stuff like Cannibal Corpse, Morbid Angel (Death Metal) or even Punk Rock (Rancid, Bad Brains)... Now I'm not trying to gatekeep, I absolutely hate but my point is, everyone will reconise Metallica, Iron Maiden, Slayer, AC/DC, Slipknot, Guns n Roses etc and when confronted you will see who is a fan and who got it just cuz it looked cool, that's the only form of gatekeeping I can accept, confronting others who have no idea what they have on a shirt or as a merch even if yea, some might say, it's his/her product and nobody has any right to question it
Not Metal related but I have that issue with "fans" who wear Nirvana shirts and only know Smells Like Teen Spirit, Come As You Are and Lithium or wear Guns N' Roses shirts and only know Sweet Child O' Mine and Welcome To The Jungle
Yeah man i once saw a dude in my school with a nirvana shirt and i told him "hey dude cool shirt, whats your favorite song?" And he looked at me in a very confused and kind of condescending way and i awkwardly walked away hahaha funckin posers that wear the culture as a fashion piece
Kane Oakley i mean, I get it, but if you really think about it, at some point you were probably that person who only knew a few songs, but it’s actually really cool that they know and like some songs so if it really bothers you, you can show them bleach or incesticide and try to expand their interest. Lmao I remember I used to be that person that only listed to the few songs on nevermind and some in utero, but now I know more than Id ever thought I would. For example, I like a few Guns N’ Roses songs (like the ones you mentioned) but I’m not such a hardcore fan (recommending some is the cool part) The part that really bothers me is when they don’t even know one fucking song or think it’s some sort of clothing line
Roooood. If you look at my phone, you'll find like Paramore or Taylor Swift or Abba. Or Slipknot. But you'll also find Amon Amarth, Dimmu Borgir, Slayer and Iron Maiden to name a few (completely unrelated bands).... I would just like to live in a world where people can be themselves and be okay with that.
I had a life changing moment when I was in High school . I was wearing a brand new Pantera Reinventing the steel shirt about 4 months after the album came out and another metal guy at my school who I never really talked to was going around talking shit about me being a poser. when I confronted him about it he said it was because My shirt was "new" and it wasn't even WORN OUT and he had one from day one and it was already faded. after that I started not giving a shit about what people wore or relating what they listened to to what they wear, their life style etc.
See, if you were a true metalhead, you'd have repeatedly stepped on the shirt on your driveway and washed it so that you could have a shirt that looked like it was 10 years old just 4 months after release. Jokes aside, when he told you his shirt was already faded you should have said "yeah but some of us own more than one piece of clothing".
Back when I was around 14-15 years old, growing up within the metal community in Romania, the "big, true kvlt, REAL" metalheads were using "pokemon" as a term for poser, only they didn't use it for posers alone, but as you said, simply abusing the term to the point where you were a "pokemon" if you didn't like a band that the respective person liked... It was friggin' annoying and especially discouraging for young people in the scene, who were just getting into the music and all that. This elitism is what made me kinda distance myself from the Romanian metal community in the years before moving away, because it felt like everytime I went to a metal bar, there was a "who has a bigger dick" contest going on and it just became ridiculous. I have no idea if they still use that term anymore over there, since I haven't lived there for so long, but I hope the people matured a bit more... :/
I got called a poser because I suggested a band to a guy that was metalcore, and he called them emo. Then he called me a poser because I listen to slipknot, and he also says new bands suck, but then I said well how would you know if this one sucks if you don't try them. Later on I made fun of grindcore just like he made fun of some of the stuff I listen to, and he got mad. I dident even get mad when he was saying this shit to me, I just kept it civil, because it really dident bother me too much. But just a perfect example of an idiot who is closed minded who can dish shit out but can't take it.
Don't feel ashamed to like Metalcore! I'm mainly into Thrash but I do enjoy listening to the likes of Avenged Sevenfold and Bullet For My Valentine too, even though they both have kind of left the Metalcore stage and are just regular heavy metal now!
here in B.C. there is an abundence of emo kids who buy slayer shirts and metallica shirts from hot topic. i sometimes ask "hey you like slayer? whats your favourite song?" and they reply: "who? Black Veil Brides and Peirce the veil rule. theyre like extreme death metal" that is what the common poser in my area tends to be like
+GrayWoIf yes exactly. at H&M they actually sell Slayer and Metallica shirts. but the slayer shirts are like plain white with the logo in black so i see preppy kids who think it means "slay" buy those shirts and its really annoying.
Sinister Skulker I found Slayer socks at a Nike store and I got em. Pretty good purchase, actually. I'm glad I got them before some random kid who doesn't know who they are gets them to save them the embarrassment. I can only imagine how many kids have gotten them at other stores. But in a way that's a good thing, because maybe they'll go home, look them up, like it, and become part of the metal community
+CJ LadyGroove Even though I'm ignorant on the subculture, it's my understanding that Goths listen to Gothic music. Am I correct or is there more to it than that? Because in the metal world a metalhead is just someone whose favorite type of music is metal. Not sure if it's the same way in the Gothic subculture.
There is a little more to it, but I guess you'd only know if you were part of the subculture. Alot of folk who identify as more "Trad" Goth can be pretty intolerant of other types of either Goth fashion or Goth music. For example Cyber Goth, Pastel/Kawaii Goth, Gothabilly/Hippy Goth/Steampunk etc. There are a few folks, even within other "subcultures" of the subculture that believe that if you are a fan of anything else (i.e. heavy metal or symphonic metal or anything other than "traditional" Goth music) then you are not really Goth i.e a POSER. It's total BS, but unfortunately quite rife in the culture. Boo
@@Porous_Dawg "Even though I'm ignorant on the subculture, it's my understanding that Goths listen to Gothic music. Am I correct or is there more to it than that?" Oh boy, did you ever ask a complex question. LOL! A HUGE debate on "what is Goth" has gone on for years now (as in over 30 years). If you brought together a bunch of 80's Goths and asked them to define Goth it would dissolve into a huge b*tchfest and the question would never fully get answered. In my opinion, there is more to it than that. For many, Goth is a lifestyle that involves art, literature, clothing, poetry, cinema, and an underlying aesthetic that colors our outlook on life, definition of beauty, and the world around us. Music is also included in that. However, what constitutes as "Goth music" is HIGHLY open to opinion as there isn't a universal and definitive list of approved Goth bands. Generally, you can tell which generation a Goth came up in by their favorite bands. For instance, if you meet a Goth that likes lots of aggrotech, industrial, hellelektro, synthpop, and ebm they most likely were teenagers circa 2000 - 2005 when that style of music was pretty popular in the Goth scene. Today's Goth teens and 20-somethings are really into the "dark synth hipster" type of Goth bands like Boy Harsher, She Past Away, and Twin Tribes.
@Claire R Even though I like Goth music as well as heavy metal, I don't put myself under those labels and just try to enjoy the music bc no one likes elitists
I have never been called a poser, but I've been called: Hipster, Emo and fake-Metalhead. I don't give a shit though. Let me dress how the fuck I want. I've loved the Brutal Heavy Metal Fashion/style long before I got into metal and yeah,.. Kiss is my favorite band! Then there's Maiden, Sabbath, Tyr, Reaper, etc.
* wears slipknot shirt but listens to it just as much as death and thrash metal * let people like what they want. people who call others posers for liking a certain band is the ultimate poser.
I saw some woman wearing a Ramones shirt and I really like 70's punk. So I walked over to her and started saying "hey ho, lets go" and she stared at me like wtf are you on about. Then I said "You do listen to the Ramones don't you?" She said she did and I was like "what song is that from" and she kinda laughed nervously so I walked away.
I do not describe myself as a metalhead, I only speak of the bands and styles I listen too. When I say I listen to black metal, everyone is disappointed I'm not a die-heart fan who knows every song of every black metal band there is and calls me a poser, even though I never say I was tr0o or whatever. I never even say I am a metalhead. People put me in this category and are angry I don't quite fit in there - it's fucking stupid.
Exactly, me neither, I don't label myself as anything. I like some metal bands, but I'm not going to call me a metalhead and wear leather with spikes just because, I have a personality.
Not really video related but... I wanna get more into Metal and go to concerts/festivals but none of my friends are into metal so i would need to go all by myself and that's kind of awkward i guess. How can i make friends that are into metal so i have some ppl to go to festivals with.
I think the best ways to make friends who are into metal would be going to those concerts/festivals and socializing with other people. It really is awkward going to those things alone but you're with somewhat like minded people. So just make friends there
Why can't we like all kinds? I will listen to mayhem and then listen to nirvana. I will listen to slayer and then listen to slipknot I will listen to any type of metal or grunge. Just not rap or pop.
This video is basically me with everything. Everyone at school gives me shit for listening to metal, but then say Metallica's enter sandman is so good I love them. People give me shit for liking Pokemon, then Pokemon go comes out then everyone likes it. People give me shit for playing in a metal band, then they go a praise another metal band from another school. I don't really give a shit about people being a dick the to me because of my interest but honestly it pisses me off when they go and start liking those things after giving me shit for it
I've just recently started watching your videos and this one is great. I've been called a poser so many times for liking different music, with that I mean like I absolutely love metal, my favourite band is Iron Maiden but then I also have different music taste like Ed Sheeran for instance, and people are always like 'you're a poser' 'you aren't a true metalhead' and blah blah blah. It's just like no I just have many different interests in music that I like, my favourite is metal but it doesn't mean I can't like other genres as well. I agree it's just so stupid and it's used to try and insult you but it doesn't even do that, it's just stupidity.
I guess I'm a "POSER". Besides listening to Cannibal Corpse, Morbid Angel, Immortal, Mayhem, Darkthrone, Skinless, Goatwhore, Destruction, Kreator, Tsjuder, Battlecross and many others, I also listen to ABBA, The Bee-Gees, The Stray Cats, Simple Minds, INXS, The Police, U2, Depeche Mode, Susie and the Banshees, Concrete Blonde, Collective Soul, Social Distortion, Alice in Chains, Stone Temple Pilots, The Off-Spring, Mazzy Star, The New Pornagraphers, Snow Patrol and many others in the Alternative/Indie genre...I also listen to Classic Rock, Glam Rock, Punk Rock and Progressive Rock. Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Queen, Foghat, Def Leppard, Skid Row, Motley Crue, Wasp, The Testtube Babies, The Exploited, Misfits, Fugazi, Rush, Yes, Pink Floyd, Queensryche. Also, Thrash, Industrial, 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's, and 2000's. Except the current brand of Pop music that seems started in the early 90's. No Rap/Hip-hop, Electronic Dance Music (EDM), or even Metal with Rap. Yeah, a big Poser.
Same here too. Just enjoy the music; it's all good. It's our own preference. You may like bands/artists that I may not for one reason or another, and vice-versa.
You post a lot of good stuff, all well thought-out points. The thing I hate is calling someone a poser based on how they look. I don't dress like a metalhead, but that doesn't make me any less of a fan.
Been watching your videos for a week now...been listening to metal since 83 and playing metal for since 88. Just subscribed. Looking forward to more of your videos. Stay brutal mate and UP the IRONS!
I will say, I like most types of metal, not all though. I did get chewed out by a guy I met years back who was your typical hardcore elitist. I mentioned, I liked Sevendust, and just tore into me about how they weren' t metal, and how shit they were and that nu-metal was killing real metal, and just this torrent of nastiness. I don't real think of Sevendust as metal, they are hard rock, but they are genuine rockers and got a lot soul, blood, sweat, and tears in their music. My point is, that elitist are worse than posers. Posers just want to seem special and want attention. I don't hate them, I try to educate them and maybe bring some real metal, not what they played on guitar hero, into their life. The funniest thing I think is when someone changes their opinion on a band, just cause the race of the lead singer. A friend of mine used to hate this one band, the name escapes me, until we were watching some videos online and saw the lead singer was black. He switched his tune pretty quick after that. Did same thing with Sevendust and killswitch Engage. Of course after Howard left KE he stopped listening. I think you can consider that a type of poser, am I wrong?
I might consider myself a poser because I never encased myself in the metal genres. I do have some "blasphemy" tastes too like "goth" rock, punk, cheap-2000s punk, opera, pop and hip hop. But I must say I dislike even more people that you must certainly must know that speak about metal only and saying how much are they into metal and all that crap. They might say that they love Iron Maiden for example and they only know Powerslave. Or they say they are much into Doom Metal and only know Paradise Lost (and don't even know their style has changed a lot till this day). OH! But if they hear you ONE FUCKING TIME listening to something very "wrong" like say K-Pop, they start to criticize you for liking it. I normally tend to say something like "Fuck you, you thought Risk was the best Megadeth album!" or something along those lines.
I hated that in school nobody like metal in my class but once guitar hero three came out everyone though they knew everything about Metallica and slayer ect.
Dude, I got called a poser on the game Darwin Project for having Metallica in my username. The person asked if I was born in the 80s first the I replied with "No man, I was born in the 90s" the he said "I don't like you because you're not a real metalhead" all because I wasn't born in the 80s like seriously wtf.
I'm gonna keep on posing and discovering metal. Not afraid to admit if I'm not in the mood for metal I'll put on something lighter like Tokyo or some melodic rock etc. Actually I find listening to lighter stuff then going back to the metal makes metal even easier to appreciate. Good video. Thanks.
It's nice to see a metalhead who is knowledgeable and passionate, but at the same time level headed and not super elitist. Enjoying your channel so far.
Though I hate sub genre titles, can anyone tell me what AMARANTHE. would fit into? Personally I love them and consider them under the metal flag but am interested in what sub genre people see them ass. I was thinking Electronic Pop Metal but that doesn't seem to do them justice. Thanks everyone!!!
If you like punk and metalcore you are a PUNK and hardcore fan. you are not a metal fan. Be happy to be a part of that group. Why the fuck you do you need to be called a metalhead so bad? Why not be called a punk fan? Why not be called a hardcore fan?
No, liking those things ALONG WITH liking metal. You can be a fan of more than one thing. I am both a metalhead and a punk, not one or the other. You are being exactly the kind of person I was talking about
Hannah Hendrickson No I'm not. YOU FUCKING LIKE PUNK MUSIC? Then why the fuck would you be so fucking a offend if someone were to call you a punk fan? You want to hide who you really are I'm sorry but that fucking pisses me off. I'm sick of people wanting to fake being something else just to be accepted. If someone is GOTH THEN BE FUCKING GOTH. If you like some metal bands great. YOU ARE STILL A FUCKING GOTH. Don't hide that just to be called a metalhead. Be that GOTH PERSON. I will be your friend. But if you are going to be a fake ass poser I want nothing to do with you. I want to know the real you not the fucking fake you. I get to many people who say "I'm a Star Wars fan." Turns out they are not even a fan at all. They are really a Star Trek fan and all they like is one movie. Look I like a bit of Star Trek to. But I will not sit here and call myself a Trekke. That's being a poser.
I'm not offended by being called a punk fan. I wasn't really offended at all until now. Humans are complex and can't be easily compartmentalized like you seem to feel. I never said which genre(s) I like more, because of the genres I listen to, I like them all about equally. This is not the same as your analogy, because I do genuinely like a lot of metal, and people telling me that I can't really be a metalhead because I also genuinely like other things in the same way really is kind of offensive. I am not one-dimensional, and I try to assume the same about other people. For example, someone can like both shooter games and RPGs, liking shooters doesn't mean that that person isn't a fan of RPGs as well
I agree^ probably your hair and then also the favorite song playlist on your channel has alot of black veil brides *vomits* and panic at the disco which are both very popular in the emo community
I like early Kiss and some glam rock. And I'm HUGE into classic rock like Rainbow, Deep Purple, Rush, Zeppelin, Blue Oyster Cult, ect... I still listen to plenty of metal, but I fluctuate between different stuff depending on my mood.
I get your point (this might trigger some) There are lots of metal heads who really really hates core bands and screamo. For me I think like what you said.. We are all in one circle. We should just instead be cool with each other rather than trashing one another.
I love this, you totally back up your reasoning as to why someone would call another a poser. too many people are assholes to others. you have good arguments.
Poser disposer I’m going to be honest there’s a right term poser to me means that people pretending to like it and not actually supporting it like you said that’s what i consider a poser
Hey Mr. Werewolf I'm 52 years old and probably old enough to be your dad. I as there at the birth of the underground thrash/death metal movement of the early 80's. I'm from the bay area thrash scene. The term poser started out in the punk rock scene of the late 70's. The poser term was taken up by die hard underground pure metal elitists against the mainstream commercial bands. Also the term "Death To False Metal". In the mid 80's the word poser was geared at very mainstream commercial bands like Dokken,Def Lepard and Poison from fans of darker heavier stuff like Destruction,Kreator,Exodus etc. Mainstream Metal fans into this commercial stuff had never heard about the thrash underground and had no idea they were viewed as posers from elitists like myself. It was much simpler back then. Today with so many Metal sub genres it's very complicated to call anyone a poser now. You are totally correct today that term is pretty weak and meaningless. Also in retrospect it was pretty stupid to begin with.
I've been into metal since the 80s and bought my first Slayer album "Hell Awaits" just because I liked the album cover.I've been a fan ever since. Slayer never got any songs on the radio back then and there was no internet. Metalheads shared albums to discover new bands. I'm glad I don't have this issue getting new music anymore. Thanks for the great videos Blackmetal Werewolf!
question: i like some metal but mostly other music but i wear metal band shirts because i like the design if anyone would ask me why i am whearing such a shirt i would just tell them that, does that make me a poser?
I sorta understand as someone who liked Slayer and then had the Guitar Hero Fade come through and get people to only like a Raining Blood and get pissed off at those people.. But there are a lot of people who's parents were sheltering them from metal, and couldn't feel the need to express themselves and taste of music until the game came out, and let alone got a lot of people not only interested but appreciating how tough metal can be to play. As a guitarist, Guitar Hero was definitely not only a stepping stone to work my left hand and making use of my pinkey, but a good reiteration of music that may had been lost from past decades that wouldn't be played on your normal classic hits station. Just figure I'd bring that point up..Totally agree with the concepts of the video though.
so true for me and dubstep lol back years back, I reamber when I was sitting in class and people who I fucking hated, starting dancing and I was cringing so much ended up hating it cause of it
Yeah Iv been called a poser. I was at bloodstock chatting to another meetalhead and he asked me who's my favourite black metal band after I told him that I listen to it. I said "It's either Burzum, Emperor or inquisition. I can't decide between the three" he started shaking his head and said "Huh... you fucking poser" and walked away still shaking his head. That was the only time someone called a poser to my face.
Idk i love Metal it's my life but so is Music in General. I can go from Listening to Deicide to Big L to Funkadelic to Shining to Alice in Chains to Dying Fetus to Ludacris to Lamb of God to Devendra Banhart to Sepultura shall i go on...?
I wouldn't call myself an extreme metalhead, but metal is the music I listen to like 99,243% of the time. I don't have any merch, because I am currently going through a growth spurt and I will get some shirts when I am full-size and in shape (hopefully). I only really started this year by listening to Slipknot at first, but now I have songs from Megadeth, Metallica, Pantera, Korn, Cannibal Corpse, Skinless, Rammstein and Mudvayne. I got almost only overrated songs for a few of them, but I am planning on looking further. I am currently giving Slayer a try and will more than likely add some songs to my playlist. I am also going to see Rammstein next summer, hope all goes well.
I mostly listen to death metal, deathcore, metalcore, nu-metal, it's my main genres after all, but I also do listen to a couple of hard rock, classical pop, j-pop to visual kei.. Well, I don't care if some of those people call me a poser, for me a change of pace on music once in a while, listening to something different, its really quite refreshing and relaxing.. All in all I definitely get your point here so very well said man..
good video man! do you write scripts before making a video or is it all off the top of your head! i love you non-jump-cut style. very refreshing. excessive jump-cuts make me sick
Is that an Abbath shirt by the way? I ask cause I really like Immortal, I have Diabolical Fullmoon Mysticism and that album in particular reminds me of Under The Sign of The Black Mark by Bathory. Although Damned in Black's my favorite by them. I do like Abbath's self titled album too, kinda symphonic but w/e I'm a Dimmu fan as well, I don't mind lol
The guitar hero thing is so true. I've lived my whole life a metal head. And I was an outcast at school because no one else liked it. Then guitar hero came out and all of a sudden I walk around school and every one has GNR and Metallica shirts on. And when I asked a kid what his favorite GNR songs where he said sweet child oh mine and welcome to the jungle. And he couldn't name any others. And those are both on guitar hero. It did piss me off because my whole life I grew up listening to them. If I said I liked rock at school the kids would say that it was a trash music genre. So to see people turn like that did make me mad. But when it comes to people fighting in our own rock community it's just bad. We are a family and if one guy like Metallica better than slayer who cares, it doesn't mean he hates slayer, he just like Metallica more. I talk too much. Great video and keep on rocking \m/
Great video! What are your favorite release from this year? I'd like to recommend you one album, and that is Zhrine - Unortheta. Extremely intense and yet beautiful Icelandic black metal.
Yes! I did corpse paint a while back from this band cause I found it cool and wanted to do it! And a metal head called me a poser for just trying something new and I never called myself a metal head or anything abt the bands or music. But I’m allways up to learn and more abt the heavy metal community and more music suggestions from anyone !🖤
This makes me feel a little better about not being so hardcore into a band. I listen to them but sometimes I just have yet to be really acquainted with the band. Learn some of the lyrics to a song, learn the band member's names. um.. learn where they came from. ETC.
As a big fan of 'Goth' metal I recommend Sirenia. (Pronounced Sigh-rer-nia) Listen to 'Dim Days of Dolor, this is a very catchy song. Their sound has changed over the years. Currently they are more operatic sounding. When they first started out their previous singer was more rock sounding. Search for 'Sail away' to find recommendations for their older material.,
Back in the 80s Poseurs were Bands that had minimal talent and guys dressed up in pink spandex wore makeup like women Poison, Motley Crue, etc. they played in bands to pick up girls not for the love of music! 🤘
I totally agree. Part of me feels like the people who go around calling anyone a poser are just super insecure about themselves and the metal they're listening to. Other people liking other subgenres or other bands shouldn't be threatening.
I'm sure most have had their moment failing a random encounter. In my gym once after work, while suffocating with an empty head after deadlifts another dude struck up a conversation with me to talk about Suicidal Tendencies(had a shirt on), thrash metal, death metal, all sorts of cool shit. I was too demolished to get into the talk properly so he kept trailing ahead about D.R.I, Sacred Reich, his friends band etc. while I could really only give my exasperated short-form opinions on how much I liked Death, Sepultura, easy stuff. I could tell when he ended the talk that he was disappointed, unfortunately that was also the last time I saw him at that gym. Sorry bro, I would've loved to chat any other time. Your friends band Detherous was really badass though, btw.
Funny story actually: Someone had to be corrected for calling me the messiah. Yes, somehow having Lord (of which there are 6 bands according to Metal archives) on your shirt means you're Jesus. Luckily my uncle saw and went no she's not.
I have been called a poser on more than one occasion for also liking music that isnt metal (bands like New Years Day, etc.) as well as metal bands. It really sucks cuz its like some people are like "fuck you, you cant be part of this" when despite enjoying different genres of music aside from metal, you are just as valid with the metal community. My favourite genre is metal (on a whole, im jot gonma go into subgenres) , ive loved it for years and it sucks to be called a poser.
i understand what your saying. however, what can be said for the people that just have a wide spectrum of music? for example you will find cannibal corpse carach angren behemoth slayer and iron maiden on my phone. at the same time you will also find mozart bach handel fetty wap and long shot party in there. i would really like to hear your opinion on the matter. while i am a big metal head. i also enjoy other genres as well. i do not think this makes me a poser. though i feel like many would disagree. but at the end of the day as you stated yourself i could care less.i hate to see people automatically jump to a conclusion like so many do. keep it up man!! \m/
4:06 - 4:25 . . . NAILED IT. The classic "poser" meaning. If you're just getting into something, it's totally fine to be humble and admit that you're new to it. If you act like you're the shit or you've been a part of something for a long time, you're kidding yourself, and insulting those who have dedicated their time to something. The very worst is when that person abandons the thing they were making themselves out to be, because then it just proves that they didn't care for it at all. That, in my opinion, is an absolutely appropriate usage of "poser."
