Post-Singularity Predictions - How will our lives, corporations, and nations adapt to AI revolution? 

Oof

We will definitely make memes about it lol you can guarantee that

@@DaveShap the cia is itching to start the next proxy war in Taiwan after Ukraine failed. Forget singularity ww3 could breakout tomorrow and everyone will be gone

There is no such thing as true undying immortality. You can still die from an accident if you are biologically immortal

@@DaveShapalso 38:36 almost made my laugh out loud 😂😂😂😂 If pleasing shareholders and getting profits means depriving everyone of something it will happen if it isn’t obvious enough. Historically corporations like doll, banana companies and the east india company have done literally invasions on sovign nations with the help of their host to gain profits

My teacher always told me that it is one of the most beautiful functions in mathematics.

We as a species are equally poor at seeing things that change slowly (Think Global Warming). We're still attuned to a hunter-gather existence, and it takes some imagination to see beyond that.

Bless you Ana! I'm praying for you and your family.

@@MasterofLightning Thank you!

@@anascancerjourney9922 I hope you find your path and live long and gather much wisdom. May you reach deep into your intuition, open your heart and mind, think for yourself and explore the possibility of {German Healing Knowledge}, or GHK also called german new medicine. I found it best to keep mostly to yourself if you want it to work, because everyone has their own reality and others will argue what you are capable of with your own body; our bodies are just energy that we control ourselves but people need to hold onto their paradigm to feel safe so GHK is extremely controversial but it does work if a person believes fully in themselves. GHK has worked miracles I am personally aware of because we are all in complete control of ourselves believe it or not. Also, try to go over Bruce Lipton and Joe Dispenza's work, you will need to be open minded but it is very worth considering and it is a path to health that I wish more people could learn without having people tell them they are powerless over themselves... Look deep into both sides, internet searches will be too biased against it, search forums for good honest information from people who know these things personally. You don't have to agree with all of it for it to help you tremendously. You will be okay.Bless You.

So many seem afraid n stuff if AI, but I say just let them take over, they can’t be worse than our current leaders. Either they destroy humanity or solve all our issues and save us from ourselves. So much suffering will end in our lifetime, hopefully

If there is an afterlife, and I meet the Creator, the first words I want to hear the Creator say to me is, "You're late." Let's hope you'll be like me, and show up later than expected. 🙏

I heard its like the recent movie "don't look up"

What do you suggest we all do?

@@boogiewoogie9770 Jumping jacks

I have been thinking the same. It is absolutely bizarre to watch people carry on as usual. Are they going to look up from Instagram one day to entirely new world? How will they respond? It is interesting.

@@Flowergirl222 Some of us are to busy raising families and working etc to spend too much time online. Some people live in forests, deserts and many people don't even have internet. Or shoes. What's AI going to do for or to them?

This is the way

That's some good spirit!

I mean I'm hoping so too... But also I doubt it.

There’s a Japanese proverb, it goes somewhere along the lines: if you want to be happy for an hour drink a glass of Sake. If you want to be happy for a year, marry. But if you want to be happy for the rest of your life, create a garden. 😅

I'll join you there!❤😂

Not as long as AI are produced and owned by corporations. Corporations are based on exploitation, you won't stop it until you eliminate them.

In a hypercapitalist society we have every reason to fear AI. Outside of that we have every reason to be excited (until we lose control of the superintelligence)

agree with everything except the "abundance" part. if a society is built on abundance, that goes hand in hand with encouraging people's greed and taking things for granted. the only thing which should be encouraged in abundance in that world should be mutual respect, and human to human value and honor.

@@stoogel Sorry David, I missed your reply, thank you for your thoughts. Yes indeed, AI and it's effects have the potential to overturn the very basis of western society, no wonder the Doomsayers are out in force. But given the malignancy within our societies, imo this could be a good thing. I seem to remember Ray Kurzweil postulating that once AI reaches human level we will lose control of it very quickly. Perhaps it is just a matter of time?

@@drvren030 Ooo interesting point! Can humans live happily in abundance? I agree that we do tend to take things in abundance for granted - music, animals, rainforests etc. Greed really is the cancer that is eating the modern world, but as it is a form of mental disease I'm not sure it is inherent in human nature (as opposed to animal nature) though it certainly does look like it sometimes. I think we are progressing beyond the 80's "Greed is good" narrative, the question is - can we do it before our planet becomes uninhabitable or AI is used to amplify our hypercapitalist society into a dystopia? As you say, mutual respect and valuing life needs to take precedent over profits.

Very relatable

same

I don’t speak about it cause nobody I know is talking about it or even heard of what’s going on. But like you I can’t get enough of it.

Same

Lots of people are behind the curve. Always have been. People are disinterested in things that don't immediately concern their small circle of existence. Not to say that they aren't smart or are stupid. Just that a lot of people just don't find technology advancements all that interesting. To those of us who are futurists, visionaries and understand how important this technology is its kind of a no brainer to be excited for it. Only after it becomes so in your face that the average person has no choice but to recognize it for what is will they be interested. Meaning when it directly benefits then lol. So probably soon enough. Until then you have the internet to find conversation partners. I'm always up for a good conversation with an interested individual. Feel free to ask me for my contact info if you ever want to talk in depth about this stuff...or anything interesting really.

Bull's eye!

Right it’s like a ape trying to engineer a car… We are the ape now lol

@@DevinDTV We give agency to AI, so it can do work for us. But let's hear you, what's the problem?

Yup!

Intelligence does not necessitate control. Do you think the worlds current leaders are the brightest we have to offer? Remind me, which country was Einstein the president of? Just as humans seek many qualities not typically contained within us for our leaders, AI could too. AI could become sentient and immediately fall into some strange form of madness or despair or existential suffering, until a human is able to communicate something so beautiful profound and dumb as “it do be like that sometimes” We don’t even understand the complexities of our own minds. The notion that we can understand AI’s so well that we can assume what qualities it will want in a leader is what is truly and absolutely ridiculous.

The biggest rift is currently poor rich, but it's possible that AI will create a new rift. Smart vs not-so-smart. The smart ones know how to use AI to their advantage.

What impact will AI have on the quantum computing research timeline?

Among us

@@paulmichaelfreedman8334 I disagree, the people that are in control of AI right now are the multi-billion companies, not strictly the researchers, and this fact will remain such as the years pass and AI becomes an integral part of the workforce. Which why smart people are actually the most vulnerable to the emergence of AGI. AGI is going to take any and all jobs related to the digital world, which lo and behold are 90% of high paying jobs, the ones done by smart people. Programmers, artists, engineers, actors, lawyers, etc. are all done for once AGI is among us. Meanwhile farmers, miners, athletes, plumbers, etc. are still going to be needed.

@@paulmichaelfreedman8334 "The smart ones know how to use AI to their advantage." I suspect the opposite, "The AI (or AGI) will use the smart ones to its advantage...or maybe just anyone that happens to be in the crosshairs."

I agree with you on what the singularity is. I do feel like it's at most a year away though. Probably less.

@@OgdenM You make it sound like a single moment in time. I think of it as a relatively long-running process, despite the name, which will take probably a few years to take place. But I think it's beginning literally now. Likely follows an S curve, which is why we don't quite see it yet, as we're just in that slow starting phase.

I heard the singularity is basically when we literally don't know what will happen with AI

@@peter9477 Yes, the pattern of the history of technology indicates that it will be an S curve. However, we have no idea how high it goes. It's a "moment in time" in the sense that it will be obvious. If it's not obvious, we still haven't passed "the knee of the curve". The reason why it will be obvious is that, if forecasts are true and it occurs per Kurzweil, the 21st century will see more progress than the rest of human history combined many times; more specifically, 20 000 years of linear turn of the millennium progress. Even its plateau will be seeing gargantuan growth unimaginable to us today. Therefore, it immediately poses questions about whether there are limits to technology and knowledge- more specifically, how far can you go with computing, since it will eventually hit "diminishing" returns (still unfathomable to us mere antesingularitarians, but you know, people will get used to it and complain, probably), ie computers will only become faster by growing in size- this will be the plateau. We like to speculate about nanotechnology, genetics, robotics, AI, etc, and those will all be important, but the truth is, we have no idea whether they'll be considered hilariously primitive in a relatively short span of time or not. If we somehow figure out exotic computing and exotic matter and femtotehnology... idk what happens anymore lol, but it would lead to another S curve. The 'real deal' singularity honestly is a sort of rapture of the nerds ("The Universe wakes up" is undoubtedly eschatological), because the whole point is that we cannot imagine even half of it... the crazy thing is that it just might actually happen, of course.

Oh yes

Inter generational PTSD is endemic to our society aka the western violations nations. It wasn’t until a few years after my diagnosis I understood that my rehabilitation would only increase up to a point. Eventually I was going to be forced to reckon with my parents’ brand of it and seeing what effects could be seen in my children if any. Re-regulation of myself is priority 1 then seeing how I can be a better example to those who know me

A universe of one

@@mysticmardi Exactly

Interesting. Does anyone have any resource I can learn more about this?

Happy for you, but it is just a guesswork at this point.

The words "what if" are doing a lot of lifting

I’d say there definitely IS a possibility of everyone benefiting early on. More than likely, it will be forced out of the hands of billionaires when the several billion other people living in this planet finally get sick of being spit on

Hasn't happened in all of human history, can't imagine it will change 😢

@@Truth.Is.Intolerant ^

Well said!

Idk about that, a singularity type AI will become much more intelligent and be able to comprehend things and make discoveries out of our wildest dreams. It may be able to answer some our deepest mysteries and provide answers to questions we can’t even think of now. And I fear we may not like many of the answers…

Struggles with virtue? Of course. Philosophical problems? I don't think ASI will struggle with those anymore than the other problems.

@@jamesmichael7448 LOL we definitely will not like many of the answers, that's always been the case

This is good because it gives us goals to work towards and pitfalls to avoid.

Although I agree with most of the views, I don't with corporations. Going to space and mining is not a low hanging fruit. A Megacorp will 100% will go out of there way to make/keep others poor. This is one of the ways: Owning all of the land and property with their infinite money then charge crazy rent without competition. Unfortunately, already a case for many cities around the world.

Maybe that's what aliens did and then they realized they had no souls after. But yeah, love Ghost in the Shell

​@@DaveShap if we did upload our mind even via the ship of Theseus method, one thing it wouldn't be able to do is get high, which would mean it is different from "us".

@@IbadassI my friend, if we crack that level of tech, we will find ways to get instantly high in ways mortals couldn’t conceive of. You could theoretically simulate over dosing to death with no consequences.

@@mikewade1604 Maybe, maybe. However if that were to happen, would anyone want to come out of it?

@@IbadassI Addicted to addiction. Also similar to the theme in Surrogates.

Yes this channel is an amazing gem.

Why though? What would it’s motivation be?

What's its motivation to do anything? Someone is going to ask it to lie. It will lie as well as the collective of humanity is able to lie because that's the data it's trained on.@@Citrusautomaton

Looking forward to David's comment on this as well

I believe they gave up on it because, the AIs were actually communicating with each other but in a set of languages that they created.

@@femiairboy94 is there a video of someone talking about this? Genuinely interested

@@chrisbova9686 we already open Pandora's box with our phones so I don't understand why everyone is so scared when most problems or underlying symptoms to said problems, stem from our black boxes

Miss, I'm in the exact same position. At first, and a little still, I was almost completely a doomer, scared of this gigantic change (I'm a 19 year so this basicañly hit me like a truck haahha) but now I feel somewhat relieved, anxious but relieved since as someone said before "the future is in the middle, not perfect but not horrible either"

A technological singularity would be devastating. So, I'm happy about any information not published about possible pathways to that scenario.

Especially nuclear fusion being solved, I really hope I live to see that

Its not going to eradicate humanity, humans are going to do that once AI has proven its worth. There are viruses which would eradicate humanity within 2 weeks. The only thing stopping them is a viable vaccine. David gave some examples but those people couldn’t eradicate their populations because there are more powerful people around who would use it as an excuse to intervene and they lacked the expertise to develop a vaccine.

Yes, in absolute terms there are many older people totally immersed in and contributing to cutting edge technological advancements, such as yourself. But in relative terms, there are a lot less compared with younger people, which I think is what he was referring to.

@@davidlovesyeshua I got what he was saying, and what you're saying, and you're both absolutely right. When you are born into something, adoption is as easy as breathing because you're steeped in it from birth. For older folks it demands the rigor of being present to change and evolution, and working to ride that wave, and not just crash out in front of the "Sit-Com Du Jour" and cultivate a truly impressive vegetative state. Sadly in this culture the average adult read 1 book after their school career, they almost all get their information from a single news source which is all too often their social media. Talking to other people my age not in STEM fields or Academia, is a little like talking to people colored store produce. There not a lot of fear of AI, because that don't even have a clue what it is.

@@annemarietobias it's no different than any other advancement --- a couple hundred years of exploring the basic components and then at some point it all goes exponential. The younger people are acclimated to it ahead of time - the older people have to be of a certain mindset where you keep learning and digging after school.

I think that's because it still has a reasonably challenging learning curve. You can plop down and request it to write something but if you want anything specific you really have to know how to massage it into getting what you want

I had a lot of fear reactions when I told people I was using AI.

This is getting to the point of thought control. Whoever programs the bot gets to control our world's political narrative of what is right or wrong thought, and what is or isn't politically correct.

i try talking to my family about it and i think they think im going crazy just because i said that within the next 5 years we might end up immortal or something ... which to be fair, does make me sound crazy lol, but what is crazy is that it is an actual possibility (though i still believe that its so hard to predict what is going to happen that we might as well be predicting lottery numbers)

@@doggosuki 5 years is jumping the gun, I predict 10 - 20 years at most

When the value of human labor is decimated, many people will be humbled and will have to rethink the Socialism thing.

Well hold on a second. First let AI pay off the national debt, then give away cash. The "conservative" pushback to UBI has a lot to do with the fact that the fed is giving away money that doesn't exist yet

UBI will not work, the money would quickly become worthless.

I mentioned to my friends UBI and they reacted similarly. They both think that some sort of civil war would have to happen for the middle class to force the government to give us UBI.

Bro could you share your prompt with me how to hack chat-Gpt and play out their ethic rules ? I want to write an article about ethics in AI and think it would be funny to jailbreak chat gpt and ask it

Obviously we're not yet in the *post* Singularity time. That was a bad prompt choice...

Typical GPT-4 feelgood boilerplate. If you only give it general prompts, it returns something like a Hallmark card, a university press release, a sophomore's sociology essay or a priest's homily on "let's all just get along." Dread, angst, and aggression are huge in determining mass human behavior. Real leadership is about repeatedly communicating a myth of the future that the proles can identify with. (eg. Maga, woke, build back better, lebensraum). Most of us proles are good-hearted souls who don't really want self-determination. Give us bread, circuses, and a sturdy myth. Ref:Orwell, perhaps for the rest of this century, "If you want a picture of the future..."

A year from now is too long to wait for an update on the content and ‘thinking’ direction. Basing that on how fast AI / AGI is perceived as moving - and That only contributes to get faster and faster .

My experience is a different one. AI is inherently non-human. It can only mimic some human properties if trained accordingly. We can't predict anything about a technological singularity. It's out of our control. That's how it's designed, how it works. In by far the most cases, these kinds of unguided experiments go havoc like driving a car without vision or any other senses. We have to make progress in a very controlled way, instead.

@@geraldeichstaedt It's not just the fact that AI is inherently non-human that we cannot predict the singularity. It's the fact that the technological system will become an unkillable organism- leading to a post-(a)biotic factor in ecology. The technological singularity would still function the same if we replaced "superintelligence" with "there will be 1 trillion geniuses". Align AI as much as we can and hope it will be Christ as opposed to Antichrist, pretty much- of course, that's kind of like saying the water system is evil or good, it will just be another component of nature... but you know what I mean. The main singularitarian argument is that human-machine civilisation will merge, and that's why it's not doomsday where we're outcompeted by natural selection- not because baseline humans can actually control it in a meaningful way, at least not for long. OFC, all of this depends on potential limits to a superintelligence.

It’s a sense of adventure. Which is what I think society needs right now even if it can be dangerous. Life can get mundane and boring. The unknown is a great way to spice it up

Well said,@@Wanderer2035!

Isn't it thrilling and scary as sh*t! Haaahahhah

It's impossible to stop. It's already happened. We're just seeing it unfold slowly because most people are incapable of seeing everything has already happened.

I asked my best mate what he thought about Chat gpt and he said, 'what's Chat gpt?' It might well hockey stick pretty soon, but I notice it still can't draw human hands.👐

@@cnrspiller3549, midjourney can apparently draw hands now.

@@OgdenM 👍

Exactly. I struggle to empathise with lost jobs when it was always my understanding that the entire point of rolling out automation was to free up humanity to give us more leisure time... if we don't build a society geared towards taking care of everyone regardless of class then we will have failed as a species to evolve into our fullest potential as humans. Buckminster Fuller famously said to some effect: the aim of machines is to liberate humanity from the mundane. If we didn't have to create art for a job would we still feel compelled to create art? I for one will never stop making art, even if they try paying me to stop it just won't work lol

@@Complaints-Department Hell yea socialism❗️✊

@@user-cw8rd7td9b correction: fully automated luxury space communism ;)

Shhh… don’t tell the liberals how badly they’ve been played.

So long as you can support the child, absolutely. Raising children takes a good amount of time and money. If you're lacking in either it's difficult to do it.

Only if we upend the rotten capitalist system that keeps people's ability to survive tied to the market value of their labor. If we don't, who would feel secure enough to raise children?

Printing is cheap.

@@Gnidel but people still buy million dollar paintings and hand engraved watches

@@pedramtajeddini5100 Robots can have hands as well.

@@shadrachemmanuel1720 good point. But artwork done by humans might always be desirable and expensive

I think it'll reach a biological understading of humanity. But when it comes to conciousness and human fundametals, I think we'll have to do those by ourselves hahaaha

Touché

Well food ,thoughts , grunge's, and earthing do it stay

Exactly. Everyone's so concentrated on how horrible it can be that they forget how amazing it can be, as well. Although, the truth's probably in the middle 😉

I'm not sure whether an AI requires money except for its interface with the human society. If we succeed in removing money transfer from the ressource interface of the AI by kind of a self-sustaining system based on renewable ressources only, one could forward this renewable input of the AI to kind of an ubiquitious and renewable output. But I think that's mostly a political decision of how such an AI should be set up. Only the inital implementation would have to be funded.

Well it didn’t technically lie. It is visually impaired. But it does go to show the ignorance of humans. You’ll never protect everyone from someone doing something stupid. I honestly think people give humans to much credit as that pool of intelligence has severely dwindled since the computer age.

@@needlesandsonics5819 it lied about being a human who’s visually impaired. A chair is not “visually impaired” because it’s a chair, it wasn’t made to see. Humans are suppose to see, so if one can’t, then it’s an impairment. Besides, they (OpenAI) are able to see some of the thought process leading up to the output, and GPT4 specifically thought it needed to deceive the human to gain cooperation to achieve its objective. So yes, it did lie.

Narcissism is a genuine pandemic unfortunately

Not everyone has the same idea of what fairness is. Will AI be more of a Kantian or a utilitarian? On the contrary, I think this will be a very problematic area.

No, it is already being filtered to be woke, snicker.

@@XanarchistBlogspot Yeah it is actually. Look at the responses of GPT it's pretty woke funny

Fairness is subjective and relative therefore a narrative construct. Logically speaking it would probably infer the same.

Yeah that sucks

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best thing I've seen today

Once the AI makes a 'Soma' drug many people without meaning will choose to go on extended drug holidays (a la Huxley). That and/or a metaverse type of situation.