Pot Odds + Implied Odds - A Little Coffee with Jonathan Little 

lol its an old bump, and I prefer the method of 1 in 3 (1 bet to win 3 total) to get 33%. But the 2:1 pot odds is fine. When you are getting 2:1 pot odds, through it seems like it is appropriate to call this 50% its not the right way to think of it. Pot odds of 2:1 means the pot is two times your bet, not you get paid "even money" for your bet. The way to deal with this ratio is it is your bet over the sum of numbers in the ratio. i.e. 1 / (sum of # in[2:1]) which is 1/3. This is no different to the other method of "bet you need to pay divided by total pot including the new bets", but yeah just thought i'd throw that out there.

Youhave 8 outs, so roughly 18% on the turn and 18% on the river.

I am not.

@@PokerCoaching Bummer , i woulda hopped across " The Ditch " AKA The Tasman Sea to see you and am hoping that one day you will bring the family Downunder for the Ozzie Squillions.

You also win the amount in the pot when you win, not just the amount going in on each betting round.

Love u JL but this response didn't actually answer the question :S @boomahh On the turn: You have a draw (assuming you lose if you miss, and win when you hit): Flop --> Turn Decision Analysis: In your example, guy bets $15 into $100. Say you have a flush draw... Two scenarios: You will hit your card on the turn 19.1% of the time (9/47) You will miss your card on the turn 80.9% of the time (100%-19.1%) To simplify the analysis, lets just call this 20% (1 in 5) and 80% (4 in 5) times. You are losing $15 4 out of 5 times. So every 5 times you call, and miss, you will lose approximately $60 from this decision. ($15 loss x 4 out of 5 misses) You are winning $130 1 out of 5 times. So, for every 5 times you call you will win approximately $130, profiting $115 ($130 win x 1 out of 5 misses) [THIS IS IGNORING IMPLIED ODDS] In total, for every 5 hands you play, you will be up approximately $55 ($115-$60), based on the flop-->turn decision. Extending to cover the issue you point out in your question (additional river bets). Turn --> River Scenario. Pot is now $130. Two scenarios. Again, simplifying to 80/20%. You are losing $20 4 out of 5 times. So every 5 times you call, and miss, you will lose approximately $80 from this decision. ($20 loss x 4 out of 5 misses) You are winning $170 1 out of 5 times. So, for every 5 times you call you will win approximately $170, profiting $150 ($150 win x 1 out of 5 misses) [THIS IS IGNORING IMPLIED ODDS] In total, for every 5 turn decisions you make, you will be up approximately $130 ($150-$20), based on the river --> turn decision. To bring all of this together, there are four total possible outcomes, each with different likelihoods. Flop-->Turn: a) Miss 4/5 THEN Turn-->River either Miss 4/5 or Hit 1/5 b) Hit 1/5 THEN Turn--> either miss 4/5 or Hit 1/5 (but we don't care about the river here, because we hit the turn and are happy) To take account of the likelihoods of each scenarios, you multiply the probabilities. We do not need to analyse river once hitting turn. (Going to assume we still get the $20 bet at least) So effectively, the probably of missing both is 4/5*4/5 = 16/25 The probability of missing turn then hitting river is 4/5*1/5 = 4/25 The probability of hitting turn is 1/5, and we do not need to account for the other options, as we are assuming hitting turn we win, and the river doesn't matter. = 1/5, same as 5/25. So in total: Miss --> Miss 16/25 times, losing $35 each time, for a total of $560 ($35*16) loss every 25 hands Miss --> Hit 4/25, winning $170 for a profit of $135 ($170-$20-$15) each time, for a total of $540 ($135*4) profit every $25 Hit --> Either hit or miss 5/25 times, winning $170 for a profit of $135 each time, for a total $675 ($135*5) of every 25 hands. Across every 25 hands, you will therefore win $675+$540-$560=$655. So this is clearly a profitable play. If you were to include additional implied odds, you would easily be able to call more than this amount, as $15 into $100 and $20 into $130 are very small bets). Additionally, in my calculations here, I have not included ANY ADDITIONAL PROFIT ON THE RIVER AT ALL!!!!!! Pot odds allow you to call purely in the bubble of the decision - you do not even need to get larger bets or money on river to make it worth it. Hope this helps, if you want some 1 on 1 coaching also feel free to hmu :D Good luck on the felt.

@dylantheTd okay so lets say you call the flop bet of 40$ in a 100 dollar pot and you miss the turn 4 out of 5 times we loose 160 dollars and when we do hit how can we win more than 160 as half of it is our money so we are winning only half the pot or am i wrong at it

I am so confused 🤔

You definitely have to study and practice to be good at the game.