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Potato Onion Series Part 2 Planting and Culture 

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Part 2 of my series on Potato Onions. See full potato onion playlist here: • Potato Onions, SkillCult
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I'm only really covering the Heirloom Yellow Potato Onion and Kelly Winterton's Green Mountain Multiplier. I haven't been impressed enough with the white potato onions to keep growing them. I'm sure they have their place and uses, but they are very different.
Sometime on or after the winter solstice on Dec. 21st in the Northern Hemisphere, I plant the first round of potato onions. This is a good time to plant onion bulbs that don't look like they will make it through the winter in storage. Potato Onions are traditionally fall planted in some areas. I have not noticed any benefit to fall planting so far. On the contrary, they will often flower if planted in the fall or early winter. Onions planted extra early don't mature that much earlier, somewhat earlier, but not a lot. They get the signal to mature more by daylight than by time passed.
Potato Onions should be planted with part of the tip exposed. Normally about 1/2 to 2/3rds of the bulb should be buried, but If winter planting I will sometimes plant them up to the neck because frost heave will actually push them right out of the ground if the roots aren't deep enough. They grow roots almost immediately, but they have to be a couple inches long before the bulb is rooted really firmly.
Spacing is around 8 to 12 inches. Too close and the onions will be small. I probably typically plant them about 10 inches on center in a grid pattern, meaning every onion is 10 inches from every other onion. If planting in rows, the onions can be put a little closer together as long as the rows themselves have adequate space between them, say something like 8 inches in the row and 16 to 18 inches between rows.
All onions appreciate consistent water and these are no exception. Like other onions, they tend to like to feed heavily, so putting on food during the growing season every 3 to 5 weeks is a good idea. I top dress with manures or water with manure tea. Coffee grounds are excellent, as are wood ashes for lime and other minerals. I like urine best for onions and general fertilizing. It has a lot of nitrogen which seems generally beneficial for onions, plus all of the trace minerals. On top of that it is free and all the nutrients are soluble and already dissolved in solution. Dilute by about half or so, apply with a watering can, and water in immediately. It doesn't have to be aged or fresh. Guys can just pee on the beds if the neighbors aren't going to call the cops or health department on you. I don't have any neighbors :) To read more on using urine as a fertilizer and addressing some of the common fears and myths, read my amusing and informative blog post, Ten Yellow Terrors! skillcult.com/b...
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@iknowyouwanttofly
@iknowyouwanttofly 4 года назад
Here in sweden people dont make a dirt hill instead put leaf on top. Warm and cozy for the onion and less work.
@SkillCult
@SkillCult 4 года назад
Neat! Thanks.
@Rodgerrynd08
@Rodgerrynd08 6 лет назад
just saw this video series. went to your ebay store and picked up some! Thanks for sharing!
@SkillCult
@SkillCult 6 лет назад
Excellent. You'll love 'em.
@aprilliac
@aprilliac 8 лет назад
good videos, man. no idea why you don't have more subs. really quality stuff. keep making them! and set up a patreon account.
@SkillCult
@SkillCult 8 лет назад
+aprilliac Thanks. Subs have really picked up in the past couple of weeks after someone posted some of my vids on Reddit. It's getting close to doubled I think in just that short time. The really encouraging part is that when people were exposed, the response was good. I won't start pulling in tons of subs until RU-vid starts featuring me more in suggested videos and such. It will snowball eventually. There are things I can do to get my stuff out there more, but it's hard to make content, do everything else and take time to do that too. I already feel like I don't homestead anymore, I just show other people how to do it! For instance, Instead of planting my potato onion crop during a break in the rain, I basically made this video instead. In order to pull this off, I definitely need a passive income or support. Never heard of Patreon, I'll look into it. I'm thinking of doing a funding drive for my apple breeding so I can keep expanding, buy some irrigation and hire a little bit of labor. Thanks for the encouragement. I really appreciate it.
@aprilliac
@aprilliac 8 лет назад
+SkillCult Sounds like a solid plan. I definitely think you've got the potential. Good luck!
@siarlpotatoshoe
@siarlpotatoshoe 8 лет назад
In SW Idaho, I plant these at Halloween along with the garlic. By Winter Solstice, the ground is frozen solid. I cover them up with a lot of straw to protect them since it gets colder here. I had both my white and yellow potato onions flower this year, but got no seeds on the white ones, and very, very few on the yellow ones. I don't like the white ones much, and am thinking of just eating them all.
@SkillCult
@SkillCult 8 лет назад
Thanks for sharing your experience. I know they are planted in the fall in some very extreme climates. Some of the old accounts say to hill them up like potatoes for the winter and then break down the hills in the spring.
@haydenfox3116
@haydenfox3116 7 лет назад
Love your videos I am currently binge watching everything you got. I love your series on Biochar and other ways to feed the soil with nutrients for long term and I am using your techniques to grow a small garden for springtime. Hope to see the channel grow man you have some of the best content I've seen in these fields.
@SkillCult
@SkillCult 7 лет назад
Cool man. Glad to hear you're putting some stuff to use. Hope the char works for you as well as it seems to work for me.
@GLRAKER
@GLRAKER 8 лет назад
I will try them in the spring. Alaska is a ruff place to garden but I am getting better at it. Thanks for your vids I follow your stuff with great interest.
@TheEmptynester
@TheEmptynester 8 лет назад
That is nice you can plant in winter. I posted a video yesterday on one I was sent from Indiana. Her father in Law found them growing on his property in Kentucky a long time ago. They look a bit different than any you sent me. If you have time could you look and see if you think they may be the same. She said they only pick them when they need to use one. Otherwise they stay in the ground.
@mtgreengarden
@mtgreengarden 8 лет назад
You asked for input on why some areas and cultures like to fall-plant. I have one new idea as to why. As I'm trying to develop and multiply-out deeper red varieties, I find that the redder mine are, the poorer the storage quality is. I have had so many promising and good-looking red varieties never make it through the winter storage process, I have begun fall-planting of my red varieties to ensure they survive the winter. After all, I can't take my poorer-storing Potato Onions out of my basement storage in January and plant them under 2 feet of snow! So, I have found that depending on whether you are growing types that store well, or types that don't store well, might influence whether you prefer fall-planting over spring-planting.
@SkillCult
@SkillCult 8 лет назад
+mtgreengarden Yeah, that makes sense. With a combination of cold winters and the fact that there is some percentage of losses over winter storage under any conditions, fall planting does seem to make sense. I don't deal with enough snow or soil freezing to matter. Are you breeding red potato onions or regular bulbing onions? I have a few red potato onions, but most have been culled from my first seedling run. They seem to be poorer performers in general. Keeping isn't always an issue so far as much as a tendency to flower along with less desirable form. I may start a new crop of seed this year just to have a larger selection to pull from.
@mtgreengarden
@mtgreengarden 8 лет назад
+SkillCult I am breeding some really nice dark red Potato Onions. As you mentioned, there are some problems with the nice-looking red ones, and storage is one of those problems. But I keep looking for a genetic combination of genes that strike a good balance of traits, even though storage or skin texture traits are not as good. I have come to realize that a dark red Potato Onion might just have to also be fall-planted in order to perpetuate and multiply out. There are, after all, quite a number of people who don't mind fall-planting, and maybe a nice dark red one might be loved by the fall-planters. As far as the "tendency to flower" trait goes, I disagree with you on that premise. I fully believe, and have proved in my own, repeatable trials, that the trait of flowering is very strong for the first 8 to 12 years of cloning AFTER going through a true seeded start. In other words, ALL new selections of Potato Onions will freely flower for the first decade, after which that tendency goes away in the second and third decade of cloning. After 30 years of cloning, they are very reluctant to flower again, and must be "tricked" or manipulated to set seed again.
@michaeltoner1993
@michaeltoner1993 4 года назад
great info thanks!
@rubberrdingyrapidsbro6350
@rubberrdingyrapidsbro6350 3 года назад
I think I'm going to copy this in the uk, I perhaps wouldent need to worry about them it winter as it's very mild
@SkillCult
@SkillCult 3 года назад
i think british isles tradtion is planting on the winter solstice.
@vann8414
@vann8414 7 лет назад
Appears you are well beyond a victory garden. :)
@SkillCult
@SkillCult 7 лет назад
My garden is kind of flailing actually. It used to be a lot better. I grow a lot of onions to sell now, but I'd like to recover that space for food. I still need the money though till I become "youtube famous". that should be next week though...
@dankrohn9339
@dankrohn9339 2 года назад
Ever tested out leaving them in the ground? Its a perennial right?
@JamesMcCutcheon
@JamesMcCutcheon 11 месяцев назад
Where to get a starter for potato Onions total garden is 12x18 feet. Only need a small starter.
@SkillCult
@SkillCult 11 месяцев назад
I would go with reputable seed dealers like fedco or northern exposure or is it southern exposure? not sure. Just do a search and buy yellow potato onions. ebay is hit and miss. there have been some scams and plenty of legit sellers too.
@douglasanderson7301
@douglasanderson7301 6 лет назад
Thanks for the video. I've been playing with 'em for 2 or 3 years now but still learning and experimenting. I'm in a dry zone 5 (Denver) what zone are you? Any advice on how to consistently get a tennis ball size?
@SkillCult
@SkillCult 6 лет назад
I'm not sure of my zone, but it's not very cold. You'll never get a yellow potato onion that big, they are small. Probably not even Green Mountain Multiplier, but you might stand some chance. They are very hard to get ahold of though.
@trillium7582
@trillium7582 4 года назад
I fell down a googlehole after the algorithm recommended this video to me. I've now bought Green Mountain potato onions on ebay and read some of Kelly Winterton's fascinating work on the onions. Then I did some more googling and started to read a blog called Turkeysong and thought "Wow, this dude should hook up with that Steven dude, they have so many overlapping interests", and then I realized that that dude IS the Steven dude. Anyway, thanks for causing me to get into potato onions, I feel a DIY mustard enthusiasm coming on yet again: www.theonion.com/man-on-internet-almost-falls-into-world-of-diy-mustard-1819571371
@SkillCult
@SkillCult 4 года назад
Ha ha, yeah, that's my old blog. I moved everything to my new one, but that still gets a lot of traffic. I actually lost all my potato onions, but I'll get some this year.
@dandeliondreamspodcast9469
@dandeliondreamspodcast9469 5 месяцев назад
How were the green mountain potato onions?? I just ordered some but I am worried they are just onion sets 😅
@truthbknwn
@truthbknwn 5 лет назад
I can't seem to find anywhere whether or not these will grow in southern latitudes (like 34 degrees). Are these short, long, or intermediate-day, or does that not apply to perennial onions? Thanks.
@SkillCult
@SkillCult 5 лет назад
I don't know what they would be rated. I have heard some people say that they might not grow well in the very deep south for some reason, though they are also a traditional southern crop, so it might just be how far south.
@freegandavehartman8908
@freegandavehartman8908 2 года назад
do you have any potato onions to sell? thanks
@SkillCult
@SkillCult 2 года назад
Sorry, I don't. I lost my whole crop one year and hope to get some back this year to get started again.
@josephstrattard4068
@josephstrattard4068 8 лет назад
Do you amend your soil with anything while cultivating it and preparing the bed prior to planting?
@SkillCult
@SkillCult 8 лет назад
+Joseph Strattard I did in this case. If I want something quick and cheap I use steer manure, which I put on here. I usually don't even dig though. I have pretty light soil and generally haven't noticed much benefit to digging. Actually, it messes up the soil structure. But, since I was planting these really close, I thought I would dig some of it in to get them started off well and have a reservoir of nutrients in the soil. Most of the feeding will happen from the top though with liquid fertilizers or dry stuff like coffee grounds and chicken manure that will leach nutrients down into the soil. That usually works pretty well as long as it actually gets done on time. There is only so much room for procrastination on continued fertilizing like that. For most of my crops for home consumption and farmer's market, I just fertilize from the top and only dig as much as I need to in order to keep the bed flat, harvest and weed or cultivate the surface. I'll do some videos talking about my experience with minimal dig gardening sometime. All that stuff is context dependent. There is no paint by numbers in gardening.
@josephstrattard4068
@josephstrattard4068 8 лет назад
Thank you for the thorough response! I am interested in buying some potato onions from you however I live in Maine and won't be planting them out 'till May; Do you think they will keep 'till then?
@SkillCult
@SkillCult 8 лет назад
+Joseph Strattard A guy from Maine commented on my other potato onions video saying he overwinters them with mulch. Check it out. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-psubmZh9fSw.html I think you can probably plant earlier than may. As soon as the ground thaws probably... or is that may in Maine!?
@zaneymay
@zaneymay 6 лет назад
how well do they do in the south? I am in zone 8b.
@SkillCult
@SkillCult 6 лет назад
I've heard rumors of people having trouble in the deep south, possibly from day length issues. They are a tradtional crop in parts of the south though, so I can't be sure.
@zaneymay
@zaneymay 6 лет назад
+SkillCult thank you. I am in zone 8b I hope to add these in the fall and try it out.
@kaykes7012
@kaykes7012 3 года назад
@@zaneymay Hi there, did you end up trying them out? I'm in zone 8b as well. Thanks!
@zaneymay
@zaneymay 3 года назад
@@kaykes7012 they did not do well for me. Northern Florida.
@andimoreno8963
@andimoreno8963 2 года назад
Sir. Did you just tell me to pee on my potatoes. O_o I'm pretty sure that won't be necessary. I have fertilizer. Y'all just don't pee on your plants. It has to be treated first. see Earthships bio system. OMG 😃
@andimoreno8963
@andimoreno8963 2 года назад
I don't want my garden smelling like urine 🙄 🙄🙄
@SkillCult
@SkillCult 2 года назад
It doesn't have to be treated and it doesn't smell if you just water it in. What do you think all traditional farms have always use for fertilizer?
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