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The Ferrari F2004 is one of the most legendary F1 cars of all time. If put on a set of modern Pirelli P-Zero tyres, and up against a field of Modern 2022 Formula 1s, would it manage to come out on top? We take to Assetto Corsa to find out.
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@evofreak1304 Год назад

These engines in combination with KERS and the DRS system , combined with today's aerodynamics, would be absolutely insane . And nearly 20 years of development , they would rev to the absolute stratosphere.

@CAI_7 Год назад

How about V10 split turbo(With no PSI limit, just like the 70s. Just run one engine for one lap), Remove fuel flow rate limit. pre-chamber ignition, Morden aero 2004 chassis, DRS, 2022 width slick soft, KERS. With only 2 laps of fuel. Moveable areo parts(front wing? Bargeboard) Double DRS, Double defuser. So 2000+ horse power? 660 KG? With ridiculous down force? LOL Edit: So let me sort it out again. 2004 chassis. 3.2L V10 split tubo(unlimited air/fuel flow rate) . engine that only last one lap. Impove the front wing and bargeboards a little bit.(like the 2020 cars, use turbulence to seal the floor better). No size limit on the rear diffuser. pre-chamber ignition. Slick tyre. Tiny fuel tank(lighter). Just make the whole rear wing DRS then(hyper car style).

@christians1018 Год назад

@@CAI_7 Chad V10 behavior

@FonikosGazmas Год назад

@@CAI_7 I think thats what we call overengineering... And I absolutely adore it. Sign me up too lets create a monster. XD

@foxgaming76yt24 Год назад

@@CAI_7 So basically a time trial monster

@foxgaming76yt24 Год назад

@@FonikosGazmas Most things that are overengineered are impractical majority of the time, but that doesn't mean I don't want to see stuff be overengineered lmao, seeing a 50-100 million dollar time trial open wheel car lapping any track would be mesmirizing

@justin_dunn46 Год назад

The older car really does look tiny compared to the new ones. Damn I wish we could get these cars back

@alunesh12345 Год назад

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@lucasalvestricolor Год назад

They could even compete in Monaco

@justin_dunn46 Год назад

@@lucasalvestricolor I know right 😂 imagine that

@Da_one_tl Год назад

I believe in 2026 they’ve been reported to get smaller again

@venomau5speedz Год назад

Bio-fuels 🌳 🌱 in the future mate it might be “environmentally” possible 🤷‍♂️ who knows ;)

@ayrtonsenna6600 Год назад

I don't fear anything but I fear a f2004 with slicks behind me

@calebmatthews4365 Год назад

Won't be behind u for long

@ayrtonsenna6600 Год назад

@@calebmatthews4365 unless I did a slight modifications on mine,like that 300k f2004

@calebmatthews4365 Год назад

@@ayrtonsenna6600 then they will behind you for a bit longer lol

@ayrtonsenna6600 Год назад

@@calebmatthews4365 it also has slicks thought

@calebmatthews4365 Год назад

@@ayrtonsenna6600 exactly

@Incommensurabilities Год назад

Wow I didn't know Ralph demonstrated the combination of modern tyres on V10 F1, epic!

@sigmablock Год назад

Alonso did that as well in Abu Dhabi with his R25.

@BurtSampson Год назад

I had heard somewhere before that the modern cars wouldn't work as well with full slicks since they were designed with the grooved tires in mind. I guess Ralph's lap shits on that idea.

@peergroth4563 Год назад

@@sigmablock I belive his run was on demo tyres, so less grip then the real f1 tyre. But I might be very wrong here

@R9naldo Год назад

Ralf Schumacher did it with limited HP and slicks and matched the best modern time lol

@afoxwithahat7846 Год назад

@@BurtSampson it didn't

@peeturpain9379 Год назад

2022 cars like 2014 are extremely early in their dev cycle and thus fairly slow. A better comparison would be with the 2020 cars which were at the peak of their dev cycle, just like F2004 was.

@silvioantonio6952 Год назад

Big true

@Rebellenunion Год назад

Next time hopefully we get it!

@kewinpalmer8284 Год назад

Why was 2020 faster than 2021?

@sauravsinha8875 Год назад

@@kewinpalmer8284some regulation changes in 21

@fqezrshyrtqzfrzesqf8696 Год назад

True, in 2020, pole was taken by Bottas in 1:02:939. 1:03:720 in 2021 by Verstappen. + these cars are heavier cause they have more security features than F2004

@cahill22 Год назад

Watched Ralf's onboard and he wasn't even really pushing. Imagine if he had....

@houseking9211 Год назад

I don't think the videos that I've seen were his push laps, the fastest one I saw him drive from an onboard was like a 1:11, but imagine if it was a driver that was more used to those cars, +100-150 bhp, the 2004 car instead, and had softer rubber

@jurekgadzinowski2895 Год назад

@@houseking9211 Imagine F2002 or F2004 on supersofts or ultrasofts(idk if it is how they were called)

@houseking9211 Год назад

@@jurekgadzinowski2895 I think f1 has both now, but that'd be insane

@peeturpain9379 Год назад

@@jurekgadzinowski2895 Would still be destroyed by the W11.

@valkeitos Год назад

@@jurekgadzinowski2895 Hypersofts

@rapidshot3033 Год назад

Imagine a multi gen f1 car race irl Like a car from each generation from say 2000s-2022

@ja-kidnb6416 Год назад

there are actually real races with older cars from the 60s-80s!

@crismairo Год назад

BOSS GP is what you are looking for

@lorenzograndini2731 Год назад

@@crismairo Ye, but BOSS GP doesn't have live streams

@alunesh12345 Год назад

@blazi2293 Год назад

I want to see the 2014 shitboxes getting lapped 5 times by early 2000 cars

@viirtualiized2495 Год назад

Putting that slick tired V10 monster up against the 2020 cars, which are the fastest in history on one lap, would be interesting. Just… 1v1, F2004 on slicks vs 2020 RSS Formula Hybrid.

@michaelkeha Год назад

Would be interesting though I would curious what a modern team could pull out of a pure V10 something tells me if you put that in the 04 car it would shatter records

@JohnLawley24v 10 месяцев назад

@@michaelkehano it already holds the 2004 records. The 2020/2021 cars are simply faster

@Super-Godzilla99 2 месяца назад

alonso did that in 2020 he was just cruising around with his 2005 championship car and was as fast as the 2020 best cars. he was just having fun with it no pushing nothing just slicks on it in abu dabi.

@reisanibal1 Год назад

People forget that current power units need to last 7-8 race distances. If you tune them to only last for 1 race like the V10's back in the day, they will be much much faster.

@R9naldo Год назад

Thats because of the ridiculous cost of current engines. 1 turbo hybrid costs the same as about 20 NA V10s. If you really want to extract maximum power from the V6 Turbo Hybrid, remove the hybrid system because it quite literally does not do anything, its just a political statement. We've had Turbo V6s in the past produce 1600 hp. However most would prefer NA V10s that give instant feedback, are cheaper and sound heavenly

@Bahamuttiamat Год назад

@@R9naldo That is simply untrue. The costs of rnd for the v10's was just as insane as the v6 hybrids. And unlike today, with the addition of tobacco money, the development was unlimited.

@R9naldo Год назад

@@Bahamuttiamat a simple NA engine is always gonna be cheaper than a Turbocharged engine with a whole hybrid system (MGU-h, MGU-k and ERS).

@Bahamuttiamat Год назад

@@R9naldo Correct. However the amount of money teams were throwing at engine development was absurd back then. Ferrari was bringing something like 8 to 10 engines per race event!!

@R9naldo Год назад

@@Bahamuttiamat Maybe the top level teams, yes, however not as much as current teams. But the key thing is that the competitive balance was not as bad as today, smaller teams could still afford to run independantly (unlike today). And teams brought loads of engines because again the engines were cheaper. 1 turbo hybrid costs as much as like 20 NA engines

@FW25 6 месяцев назад

The crazy thing about Ralphs lap is that the setup would be nowhere near as dialled in as it would be in a proper quali session. months of simulation work goes into each track these days so imagine the laptime with 100+ people working to shave off as musch time as possible

@charlesadams455 Год назад

if the FIA wants to make F1 more green then plan the season better to make races closer together throughout the colander. Put the V10's v12's back in , the cars are a very small part of F1's carbon footprint and infinitesimally small for the whole world

@hermy5086 10 месяцев назад

The calender doesn't matter, in 90% of cases the teams go back to their home base between races, they don't go directly from race to race

@Jan-wz9dq Год назад

I absolutely love these videos with the old f1 cars, they are hilarious😂

@MV76 Год назад

If you look carefully you can see the Schumi smile smashing those hybrid things…

@jcoulter43 Год назад

The V10's were incredible! I got to see/hear them twice in person. Words fail. Ermz, you're on fire again. Great video as always. God bless and race on 👍😎🏁

@tobytoxd 3 месяца назад

Modern F1 cars are 200 kg heavier than the cars 20 years ago to make them safer for the drivers.

@motorsportfan3202 Год назад

Now do it with the increased horsepower

@voltationmark9159 Год назад

Aside from a great video, please make a tutorial/guide on how to get your game looking that stunning. It's just crazy how beautiful watching you race is.

@GregBallotepitech Год назад

He probably uses Reshade

@fqeagles21 Год назад

@@GregBallotepitech he basically has ACC graphics on AC❤❤❤❤❤

@f.ema.f Год назад

Apart from the fact that Mick Schumacher went for a spin in exactly the F2004 with slicks in 2020, that's a pretty fun and entertaining video. Good job!

@XTR_NEELAN Год назад

There is 2014 HP version of this car and it's just wild

@nikolatomas5261 Год назад

This is amazing editing....and nice to see more V10 fans....what a machine that was👍

@OscarWildYT Год назад

Amazing editing skills mate, and also driving ones 😉 Love this content, thanks for your effort! ❤

@alariclau Год назад

very entertaining and great driving. I am also impressed with graphics, absly stunning!

@schakaljr Год назад

It's actually disgusting what happened to f1. When you see how nimble and quick the cars were, you realise what we have lost.

@calmak11 11 месяцев назад

Just wait til 2026 when f1 loses 50 percent of its viewership as it turns into a second Formula E series.

@willbb 10 месяцев назад

@@calmak11engines will be louder tbf

@JohnLawley24v 10 месяцев назад

@@willbbwho cares? It'll be far slower, maybe barely ahead of F2

@andreagiagnorio5775 9 месяцев назад

they won't be able to hit 300 kph in the race, that will be the humiliation for the green lobby brainwashed direction@@willbb

@andreagiagnorio5775 9 месяцев назад

+ u have to recharge the battery 4 laps just to shoot a qualy lap, and you have to burn fuel just to charge the battery, the most clown shit ever seen@@willbb

@Jay-nk6dm Год назад

I think there are 2 big reasons why the modern cars seem slower: 1) safety features. Self explanatory 2) refueling. The v10 car doesn’t have a fuel tank in the right size. If these cars raced as is and the v10 had to refuel… well the outcome would be a lot less dramatic

@adenabbas7684 Год назад

Not necessarily, since quali laps are done with very very low fuel and the weight of a mostly empty fuel tank could only give a tenth of time so ralfs lap was fast af, and even in game at the last laps the cars are significantly lighter with low fuel loads

@TheOtherNeutrino 11 месяцев назад

One thing to note about the 2004 regs that the F2004 was running with is the fact that they qualify with thr fuel load they start the race with. The F2004 can be outqualified with low fuel glory runs on Saturday. Its not uncommon for the fastest race lap to be faster than the car's qualifying lap back then.

@divinasi0n Год назад

Nice work! And hopefully with the inception of fully synthetic fuels, we can come full circle back towards the legendary screamy boi era!

@drazenbudis7881 Год назад

I think there’s a real possibility for that to happen

@qasprrr6203 Год назад

@@drazenbudis7881 yeah I would love it but I guess it won't happen because the manufactures have no reason to make inefficient v10 engines anymore :/

@fqezrshyrtqzfrzesqf8696 Год назад

@@qasprrr6203 for entertainment. This is the way the sport lives so maybe they will do it, at least there is a chance

@fqezrshyrtqzfrzesqf8696 Год назад

v10 cars exist only for entertainment anyways, even the ones who own them doesn't drive them so everyone would be happier if they make a better sound i guess

@pedromonteiro2644 Год назад

That would be amazing! Unfortunately I don't see it happening...

@ethanbrandon8456 Год назад

This may not be 100% accurate, but here goes. Kimi's pole (F2008) in Spain on the grooved tyres was a 1:21.813. That was with fuel. Massa set the fastest lap that weekend in Q2 1:20.584 with low fuel. The same year Ferrari tested the slicks during testing in Spain and recorded a time of 1:18.339. That's 2.2 seconds faster than the grooved tyres on Bridgestone Slicks. Also the Qualifying lap times improved in 2011 when Pirelli joined the sport. My guess would be that the V10s would be anywhere from 2.5 - 3 seconds a lap faster on slicks. Think the 2020 cars would still be a bit faster, but it's still amazing how great cars were from 18 years ago.

@vgbondarev Год назад

Fastest lap from Spanish GP 2022 was a 1:18.750 (Q3, Sharl LeGreg)/1:24.108 (Race, Checo). We've gone backwards.

@no1washerezz Год назад

they weren't necessarily great, you have to realize that most of why those v10 cars can even bring a candle to 2020 cars is because of the low weight. everything else is drastically superior, from the engine output to the aerodynamics, you name it, they got it. had the regulations in 2020 been as lenient as those in 2004, (no halo, low weight, traction control, no fuel flow limit) those 2004 lap times would be absolutely annihilated.

@tristan-lp7uw Час назад

@@no1washerezz halo is needed + its dus not even add that mutch weight

@MattsPaddock Год назад

"Imagination time" 😂

@06dpa Год назад

Look at that size difference!

@wanabdulhadi1268 Год назад

Brilliant content as usual Mr. Hamsandwich!

@jaimyvi870 2 месяца назад

Ngl this is my first video I am watching of Ermz and I am honestly impressed by how the video has been set together and I am really enjoying watching the video. I thought "This guy must have millions subscribers" and then I was impressed about the amount I saw. This guy really deserves a shoutout!

@petitbiscuit2366 Год назад

I like you commentary a lot because when you show first person perspective it’s a radioish sound in your voice

@saxgarcon734 Год назад

I’d love to see a vintage F1 championship, where they make older cars safer. For example, 1970s spec aero and everything, but with 2020s safety standards, so a halo, HANS device, etc… Seeing classic tracks would also be cool.

@lukealeckson3525 Год назад

Actually the cut slicks actually benefited them for the longevity of the slick as it helped it's cooling propertys from what I remember.

@clintonezeh7556 Год назад

Thanks for another great video.

@rafalhodgson1508 Год назад

Great Video!

@ICKY427 Год назад

like i mentioned on jimmys video, it might be worth a try to do the content manager tire swap. as far as i can tell, thats not what was done with this mod and see how it goes. i would definitely trust rss to get the tires much more correct.

@indonesianboyakamei5599 Год назад

Damn it Ermz, really fun content! gonna try it straigt away on my AC

@rino156 Год назад

That Daniel burn got me 😂

@minuru5940 9 месяцев назад

w10 with modern aero, tyres, active suspention and drs would be chefs kiss

@KaDuWin 4 месяца назад

Miss watching the V10s race live. The V10 era was pure racing magic at its best outside of the early 90s in my humble opinion. Luckily I got to see both eras.

@alexanderpisarski1841 Год назад

This was fantastically interesting, dope.

@Ioulianos94. Год назад

I would definitely like to see a race with the best cars ever made from F1

@ale_gmp_046 Год назад

Gran turismo song running in the background is boosting everything up

@harryjones3039 Год назад

“Ah just listen to that”. My words exactly

@Alex-UM7GTE Год назад

tbh i like the v8's because i started watching f1 in the around '08's and it's nostalgic nowadays.

@eatthisvr6 Год назад

The size difference is incredible!!

@Optimistprime. Год назад

That V10 sound though! 😍

@davesexton6186 Год назад

Quality video 🙌🙌

@karu1585 Год назад

I first would’ve liked to see a comparison between the old tires and the slicks

@TheUsmc0802 Год назад

I did not know Ralph did that this year!!!! Off to find it in RU-vid.

@tomosterkamp936 Год назад

The size of the old cars is amazing. Much more room

@Its_Maxie 2 месяца назад

I feel like he first did the race and then decided the amount of laps.

@adityasharma5499 Год назад

ohh man got a wonderful sleep with this v10 chad sound for 2 hours thanks

@rubenthekid6819 Год назад

That car with KERS, ERS and DRS would be insanely unstoppable.

@NoDirtyVids Год назад

Thumbs up purely for that lovely noise.

@valipunctro 3 месяца назад

The size comparison of the cars is hilarious.😂

@dunichtich100 Год назад

I'd love to see Mick in the F2004 with modern rubber 😁

@vogel4171 Год назад

He actually did some Laps at Hockenheim in 2019 with the F2004. I was standing in the last corner and that thing was loud af even tho it was detuned

@meme-hz9dx Год назад

The graphic is so good

@k20a_dave Год назад

christ this is impressive by ralf, those older mid 00's cars look so much agile and nimble than these boats we have now. i'm not talking about power.

@randalskinner1194 Год назад

Good job!!!…..and not too bad of a wheel man as well😉…………🏎🏁

@gregrowe1168 Год назад

The biggest advantage to these older cars is the smaller size and weight. The V10 sounds so much cooler but it doesn’t really make more power. Basically about the same but the new cars are so much bigger, they’re going to be slower. The new engines definitely don’t rev as high either. Fuel economy wasn’t a concern back then, now it’s very important. These engines now have to last longer too, also most likely taking away some performance in exchange for reliability.

@michaelkeha Год назад

Except that's a engine from 04 making that much power with modern advances that same V10 sized engine would be roaring out with vastly more power

@justinfrazier9566 Год назад

@@michaelkeha Still wouldn't be able to touch the fuel efficiency of the new motors. Not only that, the current PU's are very restricted and have headroom for way more power if they were fuel unrestricted like the old V10's.

@JohnLawley24v 10 месяцев назад

If the V10 raced against the hybrids it'd splutter out of fuel about 1/3rd race distance....or fuel save so hard it'd barely do touring car speeds. Even if allowed to refuel to 105kg it will hamstrung. If the modern cars could refuel and use 160kg of fuel they'd eat it alive.

@marioelburro1492 Год назад

The 2026 cars have to be at least or 80-90% the size of the ones we have today to enjoy some tighter racing

@spopov8026 10 месяцев назад

He added one lap on top of the usual five because he did a voice over so he actually didn't overtake for the lead in the fine 2 corners

@clemens1993 Год назад

The G forces a probably so high that the driver would black out xD Not only the turns, but also the deceleration. Holy crap.

@arrowkneeguy Год назад

"We just burn more dead dinosaurs" 😂😂

@sy1ful350 Год назад

Man got personal beef wif Daniel for tht entire 1 lap xD

@tastytacos8635 2 дня назад

V10s+modern tyres+2020 body aero+DRS+2024 ground effects + 50's regulations (non existant) = fastest vehicle to ever go around a race track

@deborahchesser7375 4 месяца назад

I miss the exotic V10 and 12’s, more dangerous? Yes, twice much fun to watch ? Hell yes.

@N.I.S.C Год назад

Now we just need these new technical improvements and find a way to shrink them down to the size of the old cars, tracks like monaco would improve so much if the cars get smaller.

@hberry8844 Год назад

Bring the sound back to F1

@DkingE39 Год назад

You sir know F1 V10 era is the fastest era

@Car.los.Moreira Год назад

Dear god, the sound difference when you switch onboards from the V6 hybrid back to the V10...

@theonlybucko Год назад

I could be completely wrong, but I would assume you would need a super-soft compound to make up for the weight difference

@carlosmorgadosilva3517 21 день назад

The reason you were able to accelerate so fast compared to the others wasn't the traction control (well, yes, but not the entire truth). The slicks add more grip, and to top it all off, the cars being lighter makes it easier to accelerate given both in 2004 and nowadays they have approximately the same power.

@Gigachu. Год назад

Hey Ermin How do Australians order monkies? Amazon Prime, mate..... I guesss

@ANTINATALIST_lewis Год назад

LooooL 😂😂😂😂

@pandabearguy1 Год назад

Lmfao the launch control start on slicks is just bonkers

@kevinhaakede 4 месяца назад

Why is it rainin tho

@thomas-d Год назад

Ralf's Ferrari... yup, nailed it...

@frodrigues1011 Год назад

The V10 I can live without, but bring the lighter slicker cars back please.

@Oscar-xw7nt Год назад

your game looks great, could you please give your csp and video settings?

@punman5392 Год назад

You’re shifting too early. These engines rev so high that you have to re-train your ear to wait till it gets higher than you’re used to

@ivorharden Год назад

Fernando did the same demo in his 2005 Renault at Abu Dhabi.

@tristantheuerkorn5124 3 месяца назад

Astonishing!

@ZeeMotto Год назад

Please drop a v10 in the W11 Merc, That power with the crazy aero and tires plus DRS would be potent!!

@wendigo3151 Год назад

Hello could you share your ppfilter csp and video setings i just love how your game looks.

@bloodyskidderz2221 Год назад

Strange things happened are you going round the twist 😆

@thatonerandomguy8824 Год назад

“Taking pole position of the race”

@itsemiemaximo9354 Год назад

The weight difference surely has his part there too in acceleration an breakdistance…

@Luuky97 Год назад

the Riccardo shade LMAO

@Madhuntr Год назад

Would love to See a basically unlimited class where only HP is capped.

@diegocarvente6354 Год назад

man, all your videos look way professional , i love them

@mehmetaliozdemir3459 Год назад

I can drive it allday and i never get bored💀

@paulhiggins8774 9 месяцев назад

Best days of F1

@guitarsimon1 Год назад

That Doppler effect tho

@strlexx8663 Год назад

Maybe you should try a grid line up race with some of the oldest F1 cars to the newest F`1 cars

@Paia_76 Месяц назад

ermin do you know how i can fix the 2004 slicks mod? it gives me the orange danger sign and i can't even start the game with it selected to drive :(

@GiovaneLima Год назад

OMG. That's why I play 95% with this car on F1 2020!

@rangafromtonga6975 Год назад

What an excellent intro mate, captivating, brilliant lol. Good on you bloke !!!

@DuftCloudly Год назад

These two Aliens 😂😂

@theawesomegamer681 3 месяца назад

I want F0, old engines, similar aero work with the size and weight of the older 2004 cars, modern tires, whatever turbo/supercharger the teams want, and as much fuel flow as they want. Let the cars go as fast as the driver can go.

@NBSV1 3 месяца назад

Just give them a 4L V12, big tires, light weight, and moderate aero. Then they’d have lots of power and good noises as well as much more mechanical grip so you aren’t as reliant on clean air for grip. A lot of what makes the racing boring is dependence on aero for grip. The cars are fast with clean air, but can’t get close enough for a pass.

@theawesomegamer681 2 месяца назад

@@NBSV1 i agree and that would still be fun to watch, but I would be curious how bonkers some teams would go with aero.