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@CarsWithJR 4 года назад

Thank you for all the support and comments!!! I'm trying to reply to all of you.

@Jogans 4 года назад

My WRX Channel how much money do you spend on gasoline? Let’s say almost on a empty tank, because I’m super curious

@mdshahidaneday8733 4 года назад

I follow guys have fun with that one time thing or bad I don't know

@Chad_D 4 года назад

here is my take on WRX vs STI. Buddy and I bough our cars (used ~40k miles) at the same dealer at the same time. Both got a limited 2016 in dark gray. I went WRX $25k, buddy went STI $35k. Here is what we discovered. WRX is a way way better street car. For day to day daily driving its a better experience, less harsh and more forgiving. The WRX ride is less stiff (Sti feels like iron bars for suspension), tremendously better on gas and I will say it.. the WRX is faster ( most of the time). Stock for stock it was pretty close tie for the 0-60 and 30/40mph pulls, really just came down to whoever clutched better. Not only is the WRX 200 lbs lighter, it takes better to performance bolt-ons. For bolt-ons, on my WRX I have the Cobb AP with the stage 1 MAPerformance e30 tune (4.5 gals e84 and fill up with 93) Nvidia r400 cat back exhaust and a few other basic mods like shift stopper and shift bushing ect ect. . Buddy has a Grimmspeed airbox, BFG BPV and a Cobb stage 1 ots 93 tune and a cat back Nameless exhaust. When we go to Mexico and do 40mph pulls I win every time. 30mph pull, he wins every time. And by win, its pretty much 1 car length a head but then we both end up catching up then its a very clear tie till we back off. Don't write the WRX off, the faster spool is a nice advantage over the STI and its ancient 2004 platform. Yeah the STI handling is amazing, feels more planed. The STI transmission is dreamy. But the FA20 is a monster with bolt-ons, is not prone to the same failures as the STI. WRX is also way easier to work on. This is only my real life experience opinion =p. I would rock the wrx for the street any day over an STI with an additional $10k price tag. So unless I were to do autocross, I will stick with the WRX. Thanks for your thoughts on switching, also neat to see what others thought. 😀

@WildDanHibiki 4 года назад

The 6 speed box and brembos alone are worth the 10k extra imo

@CarsWithJR 4 года назад

Yes, the WRX responds very well to mods. A WRX with just a Cobb Flex Fuel kit, Fuel pump and tune will make more than a stage 2 STI. No STI owner will ever admit that you can get more power with just fueling than spending a bunch of money to go stage 2 on an STI. Also, no need to buy injectors for the WRX.

@Chad_D 4 года назад

@@CarsWithJR oh right. Don't need the injectors or fuel kit.

@RichoG85 4 года назад

@@WildDanHibiki both models have 6 speed though. I've owned 15 and 17 WRX and soon 2020 STI

@WildDanHibiki 4 года назад

@@RichoG85 the wrx 6 speed is basically a 5 speed from the older models with an extra gear. In other words, weak as hell. Like comparing a turd to a bar of gold.

@stikonrad_ 4 года назад

Had a 15 wrx and traded it in for a brand new 2018 sti. Sti will always be superior. 2 years owning the sti and its just phenomenal

@junolena 4 года назад

Agree... I drive 2018 sti too. No regrets~

@tylerkopnicky3023 4 года назад

when you traded it in did you leave the mods on it or did you go back to stock

@stikonrad_ 4 года назад

Tyler Kopnicky i left it modded which i regret. I shouldve took all the mods off and sold it stock

@Steve-qr2lm 4 года назад

The only thing stopping me from getting the STI is the EJ25, id never be able to track it confidently without worrying about cracking the ringlands or spinning a bearing, the FA20 is much more reliable under 300whp.

@arenh2049 2 года назад

Superior for track use? Maybe. Superior for daily driving? Nope. With my estimated calculations I’d be getting 1000 miles a year less with the sti with same amount of gas used. Adds up.

@deepydeeps 4 года назад

I went from a 2016 sti to a 18 wrx. The only thing I can say that I miss is the braking of the sti. Other than that I'm stage 2 with a protune and love the wrx just as much

@VachOrd 4 года назад

Well as a 2019 STI owner i would say that you should miss old school steering ,mechanical advantages where STI shine, 6 speed tranny with differentials...not the brakes dude..brakes are the worst upgrade on 2019 STI..overkill 6 pots brembos with more weight where older 4 pots with proper pads does the job just perfect ... Looks like you deserve rexy bro.enjoye !

@sweatyben1550 2 года назад

@@VachOrd the big brakes are overkill at stock power levels, but most STI owners plan on adding more boost eventually. The dumbest upgrade was the RA piston, most likely. They increased the piston strength without fixing the ringland issues

@WRXMAN-ms2mm 4 года назад

To each their own I say, the cars are brothers, big and little brother and as long as you are happy that’s what counts. Fuel price though is a killer no doubt but respectfully I would never consider a WRX an “econobox”. Econoboxes are basic no fun transportation and zero road feel. The little brother even a base model unmodified is far from that. When you can get over 300 HP with a few mods and still get 35 mpg on pump gas I call that outstanding!.

@fl4tgamer639 4 года назад

Agreed 👍

@DAREDEVIL503 2 года назад

Ya I recently got a WRX and it on has a carbon fiber trunk grip on it Lol 😂 but that things feels like a nascar when I get on It!!

@berkfamily54 4 года назад

I have a 2015 WRX and I wanted the STI but I commute 110 round trip a day and the gas mileage and price were the 2 biggest things that stood out to me. The new engine also intrigued me so that’s why I went with the WRX. I’ve never owned a turbo car and the only other sports car I’ve ever owned was a 2006 350z so this felt like a big step up. Great video!

@paulmarsdensr1095 Год назад

I'm so gladi upgraded to the STI from a base model 2017 WRX. I loved my wrx, but my 2020 STI is better. It's a totally different car. JR I love your channel brother. Subies forever.

@sk8element981 4 года назад

Is the beginning of this video coming through Tracyton? Nevermind I see it definitely is. That's awesome, watching your videos I try spotting landmarks. Really cool to see someone doing well on RU-vid from my hometown. Keep up the awesome work man.

@kurufal 4 года назад

The 2.0 litre engine in the WRX is going to get you into more races, also. Bumping up to 2.5 limits you in some places and race types. Also, the twin-scrolled turbo in the FA20 is amazing and hands down the best part about the 15+WRX's as opposed to the STi.

@awdspam 4 года назад

It’s all smiles per gallon for me :)

@MyFavoriteHero99 4 года назад

Very informative on whether getting a WRX or STi. Can't wait for the 2021 or later model. For me, I would wait a couple years after the new model year to see the improvements on the new Subaru. I'm gonna upgrade to either one someday. I drive a 2018 Impreza and its obviously an economy car but Subaru doesn't seem to disappoint.

@jorgeginestre331 3 года назад

One of the reasons why the insurance go down a few dollars its because there are more people (young people mainly when daddy or mommy buy the car) that gets in accidents. There is a study thats say that STI's are bought more on ages around 29-39 meaning people that buy STI's are more mature and responsible. Most 18-37 with WRX's get in car crashes. This is what my best friend told me he works for an auto insurance.

@paulmarsdensr8199 3 года назад

A great video. Im going to wait for the new STI. I have a 2017 base model WRX. I absolutely love this car. I cant wait to get the STI. Stay safe brother 🙏.

@phenomdevon1846 4 года назад

Nice video, dope to see a different perspective. I have an STi myself and I’ve always wondered the difference

@g_p_3431 4 года назад

When I went from my 16 WRX to my 19 STi I felt the same exact differences you mentioned with the mechanical feel and it’s always a blast driving it, gas sucks ass now but man the brakes and transmission feels night and day better. And for some reason my insurance went down like $40 from WRX to STi lol

@CarsWithJR 4 года назад

Yeah, just the feel of the transmission alone is worlds better than the WRX.

@NiceGuyYoutube 3 года назад

Exactly know the feeling. Had a 2018 WRX then upgraded to the 2020 STI and the driving experience was much better. I drive average 15-20 miles a day for work so the MPG wasn't the biggest con, but pro is gas in Texas is $1.99 for 93 lol.

@maverickwarden 4 года назад

I had the same experience except it was from a 17 STI to a 18 STI. It held value so good that I could pay the entire loan off and then some to get a better equipped STI. I dont regret it one bit. Yes, there were more changes under the skin than reviewers might tell you. The clutch was revised so I had to adjust to the new clutch. The trunk now doesn't feel flimsy when closing it. Sound dampening was better, it was actually quieter. Adjustments were made to the settings which feel better. And the calendar is actually more useful than I thought.

@Jdm2005sti 4 года назад

All great points about wrx vs sti. Well said about the sti feeling more mechanical feel. Totally agree about the wrx being an economy car. Sti a diff feel for sure. Love the channel and information shared. also from a wrx to sti owner.

@aBathingGrape 4 года назад

I went from a 2013 STI to a 2018 WRX. I really miss the raw feeling I got from the STI from steering feel to the transmission. But I love the way the wrx feels in city driving it feels faster from light to light or coming out of a drive way onto traffic. I definitely don’t miss the gas mileage but when I see an STI I miss it. I love road trips and Drive up to the mountains a lot plus daily driving it to work, the WRX made more sense when I was looking for a newer car in 2018.

@koji_44 4 года назад

Awesome vid, subscribed! I just, TODAY, switched from my Toyota 86 to a 2020 STI and I LOVE it! As you said in your video, the mechanical feel of all the components is very refreshing and enjoyable even at lower speeds. One main reason I actually chose this STI rather than what’s coming next is because I have always wanted the EJ257 rumble; no doubt what comes next will never sound this good or feel as mechanical overall. 10/10 would recommend and am very happy with mine. I look forward to more vids from you!

@CarsWithJR 4 года назад

Congrats man! Yeah, the next version will probably have more hp, but I just hope they don't get rid of the old school feel.

@Mike604 4 года назад

My WRX Channel There’s always going to be people complaining about sticking to the “old school” EJ. Then something new comes along people will still complain ie. Supra, NSX

@GeneralDiggler1 4 года назад

I got my STI pretty much the same time you did. I love it still. The only regrets I have are: 1. I wish I put money down or had a trade in 2. Not buying used, I'm too worried about voiding the warranty while still making payments on the car and something happening to the drive train.

@KungfufightU 3 года назад

Hey man, im rocking the 2018 wrx sti limited. It looked like you had apple car play/ android auto on your head unit. How did you get that? I want to have that feature without swapping head units.

@RichoG85 4 года назад

Trading my MY17 WRX for the 2020 STI, good to know my decision was a good one, even though the fuel mileage sucks, the increase in sound, performance etc makes it better 😍

@lms1244 4 года назад

good video/info, will wait, have wrx now hopefully FA in next STI with all good stuff you get now and mentioned

@CarsWithJR 4 года назад

I hope it's good. The STI will be gone for the new STI if it's promising.

@yufai840 4 года назад

This is a great video. Thank you for making this!

@Jogans 4 года назад

I love the videos that you make, I don't know if you already made a video you cleaning your engine, because I really want to see it! Keep on the great work !

@CarsWithJR 4 года назад

I plan on doing a full detail series as soon as the weather gets better. It won't get many views, but I'm a former detailer and have a lot of info to provide.

@Jogans 4 года назад

My WRX Channel Thank you, this would be so helpful to some of us, especially me! And you will never know how the video will do! Well just have to see and wait. 😊

@TheGeokaiser 4 года назад

I broke the number one rule i bought my 2017 sti with 10000 miles and 20 grand on bolt ons... mostly Cobb and a stage 3 clutch. Only isue i had was a mising bolt on the intercooler and a broken gasket on the same. Got it retuned and im loving this thing. Im runing e85 and 0w-40 european blend on my car. And yes it is a daily hehehe

@jdm4087 4 года назад

I have a 2016 WRX base model, and I've thought about upgrading to an STi a few times. The only thing holding me back is that I live in the Bay Area, and it's not cheap living out here. The concept of "STi envy" is true for some. There's pros and cons for each, but the STi is clearly the better car imo. At the end of the day, I think it's kinda sad how both WRX and STi owners often talk trash about each other's cars.

@CarsWithJR 4 года назад

I agree about the elitism on both platforms.

@Wonsdloc 4 года назад

I had an 04 wrx and I loved it or at least i thought i did. I upgraded to an 07 sti and in stock for it made waving bye bye to the wrx with ease.

@dulagaferhatovic1426 4 года назад

How and where did you run the wire for your radar detector? Mine hangs down and is in the way

@djteako 4 года назад

I went from a 2011 WRX, to a 2018 WRX, and was sooo dissapointed with it, after 1 year I traded it in for a 2019 STI. I am so happy I did. I found the 2018 was an extreme let down. There really wasn't anything I liked about the car, other than I had the upgraded Kicker speaker system in it. The handling, performance, comfort, - basically everything was just a complete dissapointment from the 2011. I've had my STI for almost 1 year now, and re4ally like it !!! - even the wing !!! (I'm almost 50)

@djteako 4 года назад

I also find I am getting better fuel millage with the STI over the WRX - due to having much more control over the turbo, and actually being able to use 6th gear. I commute aprox. 30km each way on the highway to work.

@jeffpesos6554 4 года назад

The most honest comparison I've seen. Others were more bias according to which cars they owned.

@CarsWithJR 4 года назад

I gotta keep it real. No fanboyism here. Thanks man.

@Holtenstein 4 года назад

Everything your describing is why I decided to put the STI drivetrain into my WRX. The advantages of the STI and Spiider DCCD with the fuel economy of the WRX.

@joshua.2865 4 года назад

Love your wiring management. May you make a video on that?

@N8morob 4 года назад

I went from a 2003 wrx. That I had for 15 years then I drove a 2019 wrx and hated it. I liked my bugeye Better. I was planning on buying an STI. But I drove a 2015 EVO X. To try out the competition. I was shocked at how good it drove. I bought it. Amazing car. I love it.

@g0ne___590 4 года назад

That Subie wave @ 5:04

@bikboi8768 4 года назад

I have an 04 Sti....I swapped that crappy ej257 Usdm Engine with a jdm Ej207 V7....man those Jdm engines are far superior in my Opinion.

@gilbyglibber 9 дней назад

Did you ever do the "feel" mods on the WRX? I.e., group n mounts, positive shift kit, STI steering u-joint swap?

@bruceholinight7978 4 года назад

After 2010 or so both are awesome , the older STI is far superior to the early WRX , had both loved both !

@coyotebuttons 2 года назад

Thanks for this vid. My commute is 5 mins, sti may be the choice for me after all

@AJ3000_ 4 года назад

I’ve owned the 06 and 07 STI and for the current price on the 2020s, I would go elsewhere for my money. I loved my cars but I can’t imagine paying the current prices.

@dannytello25 4 года назад

I can speak on behalf of the wrx performance pack. I have a 2018 performance package and I took it to the track. Traction control off, new tires, didn’t even change the brake pads and it performed so good!! Stock everything aside from power mods but it doesn’t really matter on track but man the suspension and brakes where really good! The stock brake pads on 26k of daily driving and they did not fade at all. Tracked it my first time on Buttonwillow and did a 2:17. I’m sure the tired had a lot to do with the handling since I got the continental ExtremeContact which are far FAAAAR better than the stock Dunlop’s. Idk how the new 2019’s with the brembos are but I fell in love with my 2018 performance package.

@dannytello25 4 года назад

Also I forgot to add that I was breaking really early so I could’ve gotten a better time essentially

@fearfused7946 4 года назад

you have a go pro on your head?

@takeda1648 4 года назад

I daily my STI E85 to work and i hate it lol, but still love it.. 🤷🏽‍♂️

@DustinB855 4 года назад

That's just subaru life. Always live hate relationship haha

@angeloramos355 3 года назад

What makes you hate it? Bc of the stop and go traffic with the 6-speed? That does it for me.

@isaacrubiovalerio7601 4 года назад

Well supposedly they are getting rid of the EJ and sticking the FA for the future. FA24 is what I was told and supposedly going to making good power stock! If im wrong let me know but just what I have heard through some sources

@JVue-rv4xe 4 года назад

Crawford Performance already tuned the FA engines on the BRZs. They said it puts out good power. Still waiting on that one company to finish a harness so the FA20 can be dropped into an 99' Outback Sport or even the 06-07 Hawkeyes.

@mengdynasty6034 2 года назад

Went from a 9th gen Si to a 2018 STI. Of course power and handling are improved. The only thing I miss is the screamer K series.

@bighitmayfield646 4 года назад

My wife and I dont regret buying our 2019 sti. We only put 7000 miles on it. We had it for a year already. It's all stock and hoping to send it off to rev works to have them rebuild the motor and push 700whp. We are waiting for the warranty to expire.

@CarsWithJR 4 года назад

That's gonna be fun! To be honest, I love mine when it was bone stock. The car is still fun to drive in stock form.

@karlitron45 4 года назад

Wich broke the most the wrx or the sti????

@DaBeStReDdRaGoN 4 года назад

Was the evo 9 located in ohio, if so i may have been the one that bought it

@michaeldunning2434 4 года назад

Would love to have a STI over my WRX but with the driving I do it's just not practical. My 17 WRX already has 206,000 km on it lol.

@awdspam 4 года назад

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@dylanbagona4031 3 года назад

I used to just watched your video all the time repeatedly lol and now I'm buying my STI on Monday.

@ACCAW11 4 года назад

@My WRX Channel I went from a 2012 WRX to my 2018 STi Type RA. All it took was a 1 mile long test drive to convince me to trade up and at the time they gave me $17K for my WRX which had 49K miles on it. The cars hold their value well depending on what part of the country you live in along with condition and mileage and like you it was while I was at the dealer for a service when I made the jump. Aside from the poor MPGs I don't regret a thing. Only wish the Ultrasuede steering wheel wasn't such a pain to keep clean.

@CarsWithJR 4 года назад

Yeah, you can instantly feel the different if you drive them back to back. Some dealers will try to be sneaky and put it in sport sharp for the test drive.

@blueboilover22 4 года назад

What you say it's true, everyone is different. But will remains the same for those who owns an sti will struggle with is commuting the car (mpg). My question is for those who own an sti is do still daily it or mod the car for tracking and on a weekly basis estimate how much u spent on gas, oil change and possibly unknown mechanical issues?

@2t_mxrider 4 года назад

STI embraces everything you want to have in a WRX. My base STI has all the mechanical stuff (brakes, dccd, engine mode knob etc) plus proximity entry, push button start, swivel LED lights, awesome leather suede seats, wing. EJ257 pleasantly rumble and roars at high rpm. No mods needed ;)

@mct6902 4 года назад

Great to know! QQ, how do you get E85 in Seattle area other than driving 50 miles to places like Marysville and snoqualmie to fill up every 200 miles?

@CarsWithJR 4 года назад

JBLM has E85 if you have access.

@mct6902 4 года назад

My WRX Channel unfortunately I don’t have access and that place is farther away than snoqualmie. Hahaha. I guess I will only do flex fuel when I get another daily driver.

@zachk7268 4 месяца назад

Are you in Washington by chance? Just curious as I live in WA and it looks like you are driving around WA lol.

@louisGauto 4 года назад

98% of people who own a sti only daily them, stance them or "street race" them anyways..

@avantnarde2815 4 года назад

Shift Gears dude no offense to ya but get that bogus ass myth out of here. My guys who tune these cars do it professionally and in the right manners. Also, they don’t beat the shit out of the car. It’s like that with any car. Drive it like you want it to last. Bro’s sti has 487hp and 439 to the wheels, it runs just as reliable as a stock one. Motor wasn’t rebuilt either.

@luisg.taveras2436 4 года назад

Agree with AYO B... proper maintenance and buying quality parts helps, have my 2013 Sti for a while now, it all depends on the attention you give it,

@sluflyer06 4 года назад

@@moneyparhar Evo? Lol. They're all wrecked and shit boxes by now, it's been 13 years since the IX.

@sluflyer06 4 года назад

Your confusing non-sti WRX's. 90+% of stanced Subarus I see are not STi's.

@avantnarde2815 4 года назад

casiotechI deepening on your tuner and if you still have other stock components that correspond with the engine. He can drive it hard and it still won’t have an issue. Goes back to what I said previously, it depends on how you overall take care of the car.

@97ElectroDancer 4 года назад

ayee i saw the subie wave lol and that is the biggest thing for me about the wrx and sti, i stay with the wrx for now due to financial reasons, my wrx is still stock but i know once i start modding it i will probably end up staying with it

@CarsWithJR 4 года назад

Nothing wrong with the WRX. I had fun with mine and it's a great car regardless.

@DustinB855 4 года назад

Love my wrx still or should I say my 2nd wrx since traded my 15 premium for a 18 limited for a really good deal you got much better trade on your 15 vs mine but got 18 for over 5k off. I love sti but it's just not worth the extra money imo for what I use the car for. Maybe if I tracked the car but I love the fa motor. Only bad thing is can't put the sti rack in wrx lol

@2t_mxrider 4 года назад

Well, you can't complete your bucket list unless you own an STI lol )))))

@MultiLuispo 4 года назад

The wrx sti is the worst Choice at the price point.

@2t_mxrider 4 года назад

Yet many people still buy them and enjoy driving them.

@EulogizingSleep 4 года назад

Bought a 2020 wrx base love it, of course i want an sti. I can only afford a used sti and i would never go that route (already did that greatly regretted it car was a lemon). The base wrx was 26k new before tax. Love that price for all the car i got. I do get what you mean by the economy car feel. My 2011 base even felt sportier. But regardless i love the car and the warranty 😂. I think once my warranty runs out(5 years) ill see what the new sti looks like and trade mine in like you did. The ej is classic and i wish i could afford a new sti now before the makeover, but it just is too expensive atm. Someday tho!

@redbaru187 4 года назад

Initially the plan was to buy an STI. I wanted one for such a long time but then I started doing research and comparing the two. Of course I wanted brembos the big wing and that STI sound, but before this I had pretty decent gas cars on 87. I already knew paying for 93 and getting gas more often was going to bother me so that was a big factor. Then I looked at daily driver and as some may say the WRX can be faster than the STI in normal daily driving. I bought a WRX limited so I didn't care about price as much, I really wanted the better car for me. As much as I love the what makes the STI special it didn't make much sense to me to get the STI over the WRX. Close to 2 years later and I still know I bought the perfect car for me. I thought about either buying an older gen STI as my project car or possibly getting a new gen STI with the new engine. One way or another I'll get one when the time is right.

@CarsWithJR 4 года назад

I agree. I also do a lot of city driving and the WRX feels easier to manage when driving in busy city streets.

@way2faded 4 года назад

All good, you rocked the WRX for longtime...and still making content WRX & STI owners can appreciate! Past 5 years with the '15 WRX last month here :)

@necromancer___3054 3 года назад

The only thing stopping me from upgrading is MPGs, I drive a lot it’s my only car

@palphimsurgtech 3 года назад

Monthly pay,ent difference?

@SergiRodas 4 года назад

Interesting. My cv boost also began to leak on my wrx

@shenanigans4327 4 года назад

Which rearview mirror is that?

@TheGeokaiser 4 года назад

What oil You using on your sti? 5w-30? And what bolt on u have?

@CarsWithJR 4 года назад

Currently using Motul 5W-40.

@YETl 4 года назад

My cv boot leaked even after being fixed the first time, I think it was common in the 2015 models

@scottydangerzone867 4 года назад

I think I might have this, did you get a squeak

@jpd3070 4 года назад

Hey did a quick scroll and didn't see it asked, so what if anything did you have to do to your Rex before handing it over to the dealer?? Thx

@CarsWithJR 4 года назад

It was returned back to stock.

@jpd3070 4 года назад

@@CarsWithJR How much of a pain was that? Video? And thx for the response. 👍

@YungDevo9 4 года назад

I can definitely attest to gas mileage being huge. I didnt realize how far my commute is , but when it's all said and done the tank is pretty much gone by the time I get back home Friday. I can only imagine with the STI it'd be gone by Wednesday/Thursday. If my commute was shorter or I just made more money I'd make the move. Thankfully the WRX has all the creature comforts I'd want that I wouldn't have been able to afford to get in the STI at a comparable trim level, definitely another big thing to consider if this is going to be a daily for someone.

@CarsWithJR 4 года назад

Yeah, it sucks...My commute is further now. The WRX was great on gas when I had it even on E85.

@sweatyben1550 2 года назад

The STI comes stock with all the creature comforts btw!

@bujin5455 2 года назад

The FA motor is more efficient than the EJ, but a lot of the MPG difference comes down to the drive train. Even the EJ25 WRXs were more efficient than the STi. Those triple helical LSDs, though utterly awesome, add quite a bit of friction to the over all drive train.

@toymachine188 4 года назад

Did you trade in your WRX with mods on it?

@smokescreen399 2 года назад

I currently own a 2016 STI and I too, said SOLD! after driving it 1 km. However I thought about trading it in for a 2022 WRX GT but idk after watching this video

@Chas3V 4 года назад

I have a 17 wrx waiting to see what the new sti has in store.

@plzgtfo 4 года назад

I have a 17 WRX because I drive about 250 miles per week.

@MegaShanes1 4 года назад

A great channel mate and i love my STi also.

@CarsWithJR 4 года назад

Thanks man!

@gend21 4 года назад

Currently own a 2017 WRX Premium. Having thoughts trading it in for the all new STI.

@BigfootUnibrowMan 4 года назад

I'm waiting to see the new 2022 STI coming out next October. The 2.4 with 400hp and 360 ftlbs sounds pretty sweet. If it's not I'll probably just get a c6 Z06 or Camaro SS.🤷‍♂️ Currently own a stage 1 2016 wrx premium.

@Baaail 3 года назад

yeah man idk i had a 15 limited was full bolt ons and loved it just picked up a 18 limited sti and I really really don't like it and i just cant fucking find out why maybe because its stock anyone else had this issue?

@gt500. 4 года назад

I have a 18 wrx I get 18 mpg only few mods I'm planning in trading it for a 2020 sti

@timmyi1030 4 года назад

I have a “19 STI. I’ve been thinking about trading it in for the Tesla model 3 dual motors. What do you guys opinion about it?

@deej628 4 года назад

I’m getting a tessy after my 18 wrx too. They’re sooo nice.

@CarsWithJR 4 года назад

Not gonna lie, I would LOVE a Tesla.

@doodlebob282 4 года назад

I bought my 2013 sti limited with 35k miles last June a week after graduating high school and at first I regretted it because I wasn’t used to driving a stick daily and I was annoyed of it at first and I had an Altima before which got 32 mpg and the sti gets 18.9 so that was annoying also but 2 months after I bought a 2016 Kia Optima as a daily and I’ve loved the sti and don’t regret the only thing that crosses my mind is if I should have gotten a newer one because I love the 2018+ with the recaros but I’m happy with the decision I never considered a wrx because for me it was never going to be a sti

@CarsWithJR 4 года назад

HOly crap! That's a big reduction in gas mileage. I feel your pain. I also daily mine and hate the gas mileage but I love driving it. I also have a Miata that I drive to work.

@user-fz1cz9qg4h 4 года назад

wrx has weak gearbox which is not cheap to upgrade. It is not always about power. Having owned and modified an 16 sti and looking back on the journey, I should have got one with a blown motor and rebuild from ground up.

@joony17 4 года назад

"I loved that car the only thing that bothered me was... uhh mustang" hahaha no hate towards mustangs but that reasoning was spot on. I was never really into american muscle either. They're slowly growing on me, but I'd never buy one. On a different note I actually got a wrx over a year ago and your channel helped me visualize what I wanted, what I didn't want. But unfortunately it was totalled 5 days later by a drunk driver, I park on the street cause I live in Chicago. 5 days... had my dream car for 5 days and that whole experience fucking sucked lol but I look at it as the world telling me I should wait and become more financially stable and then buy an sti haha. Looking back I was definitely pushing my budget.. but thank God the driver left his insurance so i actually got paid out more than what I paid which I feel isn't too common. Anyways thanks for these vids. It just motivates me more to keep on grinding so one day I can get the sti. I'm curious about the 2021 sti with the new specs. Maybe I'll jump on that when it's out depending on what's changed/improved.

@CarsWithJR 4 года назад

Sorry to hear about that. Things happen for a reason but it still does suck. At this point, I would wait to see what the next remodel has to offer. If you want the old school feel, get the 2020. I'm be afraid that the next Subaru might not have the same mechanical, old school feel as the current model. Thats what gives it it's charm but, I also feel like it needs a serious update/upgrade as far as the engine goes to keep up with competitors.

@joony17 4 года назад

@@CarsWithJR yeah I look at it as a learning experience. Honestly, it was the best outcome possible from a terrible event. No one was hurt, I got fully reimbursed so it's all good. But yeah I agree. I'm gonna wait and compare the 2020 and 2021. I'd have to really like the 2021 to get it, because I'm not a fan of getting a first gen anything. Gotta give the company time to work out the small overlooked issues. Edit: not saying this is a first gen wrx or sti obviously, but same idea applies. There will likely be minor things that need to be reworked with engine/ecu with the new reworked sti.

@tspro8308 4 года назад

Bought a 17 WRX one week later saw a STI RA with only 595 miles for $40k in Denver immediately take off from Vegas to Denver round trips over 1600 miles in 26hours best decisions I made in my life STI all the way !!! My next one will be the ultimate S209

@CarsWithJR 4 года назад

$40k for al almost new RA is a deal!

@NoGaragE30 4 года назад

Pretty much my sentiment. You simply can't upgrade your way to the STI feel. The price difference between the two makes the STI a no brainer for those who appreciate the analog driving experience.

@CarsWithJR 4 года назад

💯

@DAREDEVIL503 2 года назад

Ya idk man, I’ve never drove the STI’s but my WRX feels Amazing when I’m letting it breathe, glued to the road and giving u whiplash LOL, I love it but I guess I’ll see one day!!

@1lesavage 4 года назад

Yea the manual transmission on my 15 wrx has always felt cheap an fragile. Plus the fork and tob have been the worst for me. Im getting a 20 ss 1le in the summer

@CarsWithJR 4 года назад

Yeah, I never liked the tranny feel in the WRX. Did the deal replace your TOB and fork?

@1lesavage 4 года назад

My WRX Channel yes but after 3months it has come back. The only way to fix it if i get a ACT clutch kit that comes with the fork and tob.

@kylchn6002 4 года назад

I remember you looking at that white type R in Bremerton but those bastards wouldn't budge on the 50k haha. I got lucky and found a 2019 champ white type R for MSRP so I ended up getting rid of my 2015 wrx for it. No regrets, but might consider an sti if they ever come out with a refreshed motor.

@CarsWithJR 4 года назад

Yeah! 50k bro! I also looked at one there at that dealership. No negotiation at all. I offered full sticker price for it.

@JohnD-bs4qi 4 года назад

I've been thinking about trading my WRX for an STI. The only issue is I would need to buy all new bolt on parts for the STI, or at least mostly new parts. The other issue is, the STI engine is an aged platform. Doesn't make as much power as the FA20 and in a couple of years they will be putting a new engine in the redesigned STI. Some performance shops are pushing 450hp out of the Ascent motor with very minimal mods. At this point in time i'm going to wait until the new STI has been out at least a year or so and then possibly pick it up. I just don't want to buy a car that has an engine that is 30 years old and is essentially dead at this point.

@stilife1942 4 года назад

At this point wait for the refresh model STi. I had a wrx for 2 years before I traded to STi, the sti is AMAZING!! Just make sure you can pay a little more, I’d never go back.

@JohnD-bs4qi 4 года назад

@@stilife1942 Ohh for sure. I want one without a doubt, but I really don't want to buy into the old platform. I'll wait at this point. I just wish Subaru would give us some information about the redesign. Hopefully it's something big. Glad you enjoy the STI!

@GolfCoyote 4 года назад

Got a nice little chip in my windshield when I was still under 1k miles with my 18 STI. Beautiful Portland roads. Also according to my STi I'm averaging 24mpg, not bad!

@doodlebob282 4 года назад

Colin1337 I get 18.9 right now the highest I’ve seen it be is around 22.4 mpg

@808whitefa5 4 года назад

I daily my 19' STI 55miles a day. My average is 18.5 mpg. It hurts just alittle lol

@Mike604 4 года назад

Came from ‘16CVT WRX to 16’STi Things to note for first buyers: 1. If you’re trading in, just ask and shop around. Different prices/dealership. Offered $24k vs $27k on the same car 2. Change oil every 3 months, no matter how much you drive. They recommend 6mo which is too long, especially if you’re modded, bring it to other local shops. EJs burn oil super fast so better to have new oil than no oil and it’s just $50 rather than a $5000 engine 3. Stage 2 is the most you should do for a daily if you don’t want things blown up. Invidia catted dp has the same design as the cobb one. Don’t use other dp brands if you plan to use cobb OTS maps. Important to get an eTune ex, from Brentunning. ETune on Black Friday is half off if money is a concern. 4. Get a turbosmart by pass valve. OEM bov is known to turbo leak and the valve doesn’t open and close as fast, harming the turbo and engine 5. Everyone should upgrade to a Group N transmission mount and rear shifter bushing. Those two parts make the car feel WAY more responsive and power to the wheels. Imo should come like that from factory. First gear is a dream with my OEM STi short shifter. No need to upgrade the front shifter bushing as it increases NVH noise vibration harshness.

@CarsWithJR 4 года назад

I agree 100%!

@abn2684 4 года назад

Niceeeee!

@saulcardona6347 4 года назад

Oh Yeah that infamous p0016 oil control valve issues sucks. Especially if you’re no longer under warranty lol

@CarsWithJR 4 года назад

Oh yeah it did! Multiple trips to the dealer.

@macario1356 2 года назад

My Dreams is the wrx 18 but im working hard to got my Dream

@schwagerin 4 года назад

im gonna buying car but cant decide sti, 370z or mx5 what you recommend?

@AJ3000_ 4 года назад

Mx5 or wait till the next gen Subaru

@schwagerin 4 года назад

@@AJ3000_ Thanks for the answer, I see that many do not stress 370z is it for something?

@AJ3000_ 4 года назад

schwagerin Im not a Nissan fan, my father sold them back in the day and my wife had one when we first met, was never really a fan. I can’t recommend the 370 Bc I haven’t had any experience with it.

@justinturner4850 4 года назад

I get 17 mpg in my 2018 STI. live on Maui and there’s some really nice twisty roads, but there’s no real highways here so it’s all “city mpg” and yes it’s abismal. I love my car, I wanted one since 2004 when they came out but the mpg is a joke for a 4 cyl. And there’s only one Subaru dealership here and they won’t let you test drive the STI here. They will only start it and sit in it🤨

@Dave-so7sf 4 года назад

juSTIn Turner Every time I’m in Maui I always wish I had my STI with me. Definitely some sick twisty roads on that island.

@cyclonefanatic5450 4 года назад

1. yes, mileage sucks in the STI, but e-85 is like $1.45 right now so who gives af 2. with all automotive delays due to COVID-19, all 2021 models could get delayed immensely

@Wolfwood0011 4 года назад

if you could afford it would you have bought the S209? what are your thoughts on the S209?

@CarsWithJR 4 года назад

I would. There are things on the S209 they should have done but didn't. They market it as a capable car you can take on the track but did NOTHING as far as oil cooling/baffling and addressing the age old oil pick-up thas prone to cracking. Plus, if you take your S209 to the track and have mechanical issues, Subaru of America may deny your claim.

@hkstreetracerx7 4 года назад

@@CarsWithJR Agreed. There's so much that they could have done. An ELH and ball bearing turbo for starters (maybe even twin scroll). Then there's the fact that they pulled the forged pistons and stuck with the standard STI short block. We also didn't get the real Recaro Sportster CS seats (with more aggressive bolstering for the track) from the other S series. We didn't get the Bilstein DampMatic II adjustable suspension from the S208. No additional cooling for a track car (oil, diff, brake ducts, etc.). They kept the UELH and gave us a larger, laggier journal bearing turbo shifting the powerband to the right, but keeping the same 6,700 rpm redline :( On a positive note, all the reviews have raved about the S209's handling capabilities. I just don't think they delivered a true S series package.. especially for the price. I've even seen dealers asking upwards of $120k with ADM. I'll keep my '19 STI for now and wait to see what the next gen, FA powered STI has to offer :) I made the same switch as you, from a flex fuel '16 WRX to a '19 STI. No regrets other than fuel economy. I got better mpg on E50 in the WRX than I do in the STI on 91. Still debating on whether it's worth the money to flex fuel the STI.

@PAlang-dr7kv 4 года назад

I just hope the fa24 sti will not have electronic e brake. We need to stick with the traditional e brake hopefully subaru will learn and understand that

@zlfugate 4 года назад

I was lucky enough to drive two different WRX's for a few months each when I sold cars. I switched jobs and had to buy a vehicle and there was no doubt it was a WRX. The first time I test drove an STI (Thankful I did) the difference was substantial and tangible at every moment. I could not believe how much more solid, refined and engaging the STI was. I have an 18 in the driveway. Love the channel!!

@CarsWithJR 4 года назад

I hear ya. When you drive them back to back, the difference is huge.

@ronynyoda4567 4 года назад

Did you return the WRX back to stock before trading it in?

@CarsWithJR 4 года назад

Yes. 99.9% back to stock.

@ronynyoda4567 4 года назад

@@CarsWithJR Dang! Been through a lot of pain and suffering installing aftermarket upgrades on my 2018 WRX. I don't think I would have the patience to return it back to stock. Kudos to you!