Capitalism doesn't just imply inequality, it is structurally dependent upon it. Neoliberalism cheerleaders rarely say this out loud, but they are occasionally indiscreet about it. (See Boris Johnson's infamous "cornflake" speech). For these people, deepening inequality is an indication that their religion (asset-stripping capitalism) is working - for them. This was a stunning and timely discussion. Many thanks Nate and to all participants.
I think we should charge the monetary system, not any ism, for this. The two things are different, one is based on debt * that could all be revalued lower *, the other is just the means of production aren't dictated by the govt, but private individuals, based off wants mostly, not need.
@@tinfoilhatscholar There's no such thing as a "capitalist system of government." Capitalism is an economic model, not a governance system. We tend to conflate democracy (an actual system of government) with capitalism, but this is a false correlation - just look at China.
Here in the intermountain west there is a serious problem with rental costs. They are going up exponentially. I have been helping my daughter look for a place to rent in southern Montana. If she gets a job for $20 an hour she will make $3200 per month or $38,400 annual income, minus taxes and she will have $2200 to live on. If she gets a roommate and they split the cost of renting a house ($1000 each) she is down to $1200. Subtract utilities=$200, she has $1000 to pay for everything else in life; food=$400, medical insurance=$100, car insurance=$100, auto fuel and maintenance$200, phone=$35 comes to $835. That leaves her $165 a month but she might have to have an internet plan to keep her job so $50 and she might need to by some clothes $100 and she might need to see a dentist for a crown $1300. Oops she just burned through a years worth of savings. As your guest said, it's a math problem. Income to expenses don't add up. Great job Nate. You are my hero.
Residential property management firms in the U.S. have over the past decade or so become increasingly absorbed by massive venture capital firms, and many of them are using newly developed algorithms to collude to raise rents each year beyond their tenants' ability to keep up, making it very difficult for tens of millions in the working class to maintain their housing.
So happy for her to get a high paying job! Just across the border in Wyoming, $12.50/hr is considered a legitimate (meaning “good”, meaning “ more than reasonable” wage, meaning “happy to have it” - part time to max hours available to keep it in part time status, no overtime rate, “we love our job-creators”brainwashing with zero healthcare.
"Young people." Maybe that could be explored as a topic, Nate. What are people under the age 21-25 thinking, planning, doing about the polycrisis? What do they understand? What do they fear and hope for? Who are the emerging leaders?
Well chances are you have simply deferred poverty. As energy supply dries up and retirement funds fail you will have no money and no children to assist you in old age
You are saying shelter fully paid for sooner, resources accumulated more than that for having a family, for a less amount of money and the time to earn it will then mean "you will have no money"...? How do you work that out and how do you know the children will be around in old age?@@paul1862
I'd love it if you had each of these people on for individual interviews, Nate! I definitely think this is such an important topic and would love to see it further explored in more depth in future episodes. Great conversation!
@@thegreatsimplification It would likely be a better use of time to have on men who build and maintain steam driven machine shops. Or perhaps just speaking directly to the working poor, rather than those who would make a career talking about them. I don't quite understand the benefit of using Carlin's soft language on a problem that will only be exacerbated as EROEI declines, and with it education, and the secondary market redundancies that temporarily buoy the poor keeping the fake markets seeming solvent. Having guests that distinguish, effectively, the proletariat with such a friendly euphemism as "Alice" is reminiscent of the Reddit communists that are so certain they'll be artists and therapists after their "people's revolution." I wonder Nate, which of your guests will be milking the goats, hauling the water, sheering the sheep, or darning the socks after Alice decides competing with the 8 million illegals in just the past three years is worth toppling the Red Queen rather than persisting?
How many listeners fall into the Alice category?! I am one, but more because of my choices. If I blow a tyre, my savings are halved. If my vehicle breaks terminally down I can't replace it. I live job to job (renovations) but I only 'work' three days a week max. The rest of my time is spent managing my 5 acre small holding, which feeds us and the neighbours, and allows me to do a few cash-cow training courses on how to set up water harvesting and other permaculture type stuff. The road is long and hard and every day is both a joy and a slog, but the hamster wheel of Alice land does have an off ramp. I don't have any savings because I invest all my excess back into my system (trees, taps, pipes, tanks, replaceable energy devices etc.) We are economically Alice but we eat great food, have no health issues and we have an economically invisible investment scheme that is based on organic growth and not interest rates.
NPR is doing a good job keeping the issue of ALICE from its listeners in that I don't believe this concept has yet been discussed on any of its nationally syndicated programs. Thank you so much for hosting this panel, which was very informative and relevant to the lives of tens of millions of us here in North America.
Great discussion, but I didn't hear the words "union" or "Co-op" even mentioned. Stephanie kept saying that this is a structural problem, but she never identified what the structural problem is other than 40% of people not making enough to live on. Though I'm sure she's thought about it. It was a huge point that community and solidarity have a large role in ameliorating poverty, but again, no mention of unions or cooperatives.
Not sure how co-op is a far left word. My electric provider is a co-op (Rural Electric Association), though they don't have it in their name. Lots of people in the Western U.S. belong to Rural Electric associations. Members (i.e., everyone who has an account with them) vote for the Board & can put in their 2 cents worth as to policy. Also farmer co-ops are still a thing (I think).@@041101213
There are so many tensions to contend with as we race towards and overshoot planetary boundaries. While many people struggle to meet their daily needs, others have vast resources and wealth. While the poor have lower ecological footprints, providing more for them increases their footprints. We need to find ways to reduce the footprint of wealthy folk, while at the same time not increase the footprint of the poorer folk. We need to reduce material throughput and waste outputs, while restoring ecosystems / planetary boundaries.
I looked up the Alice report for my county and I am just below the Alice for my county. I can tell you I do not feel poor at all, but I do feel on edge every month, and we do get very stressed when we have unbudgeted expenses. Recently, we discovered that our family doctor is no longer participating in my insurance plan. We had two appointments before we discovered it and we got billed for them! That’s not something we can just absorb.
Yes, lessening the regulations, accessing the wisdom and skills already within the community and encouraging grass roots efforts, along with some support from agencies is better than just giving money. Empowering people and helping them to recognize the ways that they are already contributing to the big picture, a way to take pride in the work that they do, these things are important. Great question Nate. Thanks for always addressing the issues that really matter and that no one else is talking about. It's too bad you're not getting enough time on your farm, but I think your podcasts/youtube are a great contribution to the common good.
The egregious income disparities extant in contemporary America just didn't "happen". They have been orchestrated, nurtured, tweaked and manipulated by people in power since this country was founded. The same indifference to Native Americans and Negro slaves that was demonstrated by wealthy and powerful individuals from the beginning is now being displayed towards the general population, in the same way. If contemporary life has become culturally-sanctioned "elimination game" then we are ALL in jeopardy.
The same goes for health care. In 2016 a musician friend posted the following: ====== I played a gig tonight for some doctor/hospital social thing, and overheard this gem from one of the doctors: "...when I see Bernie supporters, I just want to shake them and ask them if they have any understanding of the economy. They want to raise the minimum wage, but if it goes up even a dollar, it'll tank the economy. I think it's about time we did away with minimum wage entirely, so it stops draining our economy. Plus Bernie is going to raise taxes to 90%, which will also ruin the economy... Also, I miss the days before Obamacare, when I didn't have to see all these people from the 'leper class.' Now I have to deal with their diabetes and heart problems. It was better the way it used to be." (when they got sick and died because they couldn't afford care?)
I just started the episode, but Nate, you calling someone from 30 miles away your neighbor was probably the most american thing I've heard from you so far. If transportation where to really go fubar due to oil prices, battery scarcity and the like, it'd be hard to visit your neighbor. Or a good exercise, at the very least.
I used to work in a grocery store and I can assure you that food stamps can only be used to purchase substandard food. For instance, you can not buy organic on food stamps. OTOH, you can not buy generic-only brand name. It’s like a scam to support Kellogg.
Pardon my use of the vernacular, but the gist of this conversation could either be : "money talks and bull shit walks", OR, "life is like a shit sandwich : the more 'bread' you have, the less shit you have to eat". Whether domestically or internationally, those street-wise maxims hold true. To the detriment of the human species. Whether in Gaza or South Central or South Africa, that empirical reality is inescapable and undeniable. That disparity is humanity's collective "achilles heel". For the sake of the privileged few we are engineering the demise of us ALL.
A welcome overview. Thanks, Nate. Global solutions, like global agencies, should at best give us pause. Frankly, the notion scares the piss out of me. The W.H.O. or the U.N. with dictatorial powers means an Orwellian 1984. Also, conspicuous by its absence was ANY mention of Central Banksters and fiat currency in terms of inflated costs, and how much are we spending on the bankers' wars.
There is so little chance of the UN being granted powers that supersede national sovereignty (especially of permanent Security Council members like the US, which, to illustrate, doesn't recognize the International Criminal Court and has not ratified the Convention on the Rights of the Child) that I wouldn't worry. What dictatorial powers would the WHO be granted that would lead to a totalitarian state, thought police, civilian torture? (I would have mentioned surveillance, but we already live with so much surveillance that I don't see the point in forcing more on us, eh?) Your concerns may be valid (i.e. we ought to strive to avoid the futures you fear), but to be blunt, I suspect they distract from more dire problems. Orwell's warnings have been fairly well heeded -- nearly everyone with an ounce of power or even political interest has read 1984 and people such as yourself bring it up consistently whenever broader governance is proposed. More insidious and thus more dangerous institutions are addictive for-profit algorithms running on big data gathered by that surveillance I mentioned, and the neutralization of democracy by an elite (not a permanent single caste but the heterogeneous power-wielders of competing hierarchies) that is blind to our worst crises because their desires are exceptionally well served and they subscribe to a system-justifying, self-soothing ideology. Tl;dr: I preferred Brave New World.
Poverty of the spirit might be a topic. There may be an inverse relationship of having great wealth and all the security and protection in keeping it and the true appreciation and value of the coming simplicity.
Nate your channel is the best. Thank you. It seems like a big part of the problem can be boiled down to taxes, with the wealthiest not paying a sufficient amount compared to both historical rates and the needs of a society that has generated inequality and increasing externalities. Then with this going on, the Republicans want to defund the IRS while demagogically posturing as the ally of the working man. Anyway, for an excellent synopsis of the structure of our society that generates poverty, see Poverty, By America, by Matthew Desmond.
So many of us are so focused on the unfairness of the system. Everyone keeps talking about poverty as if it’s a bad thing. What if being poor is really being rich and being rich is really being poor. Hear me out. What if having less of everything should be everyone’s goal including less work and therefore less money. What if all the human made objects (you know the thousands of items from things we decorate our bodies with to nicknacks to useless schools to useless prisons to useless kitchens and what not) we bring into our lives to entertain ourselves is driving each one of us into a spiraling out of control depression. What if the more depressed we become the more we need to feed. What if less work means less manufacturing of EVERYTHING and in turn means less grinding of the crust of the planet. Even if we are headed into a brick wall full speed as a species, what if we still choose to change and therefore can say we took the right action at the end and depart on a good note. What if less is more and more is less.
"Jobs" are traps, in more ways than the obvious. I just read Demon Copperhead, Barbara Kingsolver's 2020s retake on Dickens' David Copperfield. Not to give you a spoiler, but between pages 516 and 523, there's a nice analysis of a Land Based economy vs. a Money Based economy, with unnamed demonstrations of a Gift economy within the Land economy. The Land economy sounds like Thomas Jefferson's Virtuous Farmer agrarian ideal, although in practice it seems to substitute children for Black people in the slavery department. Nate's interviews and roundtables with Daniel Zetah, Jason Bradford, Andrew Millison, and Vandana Shiva, and also Jason's essay on The Future is Rural (offered by the Post Carbon Institute) have taught me that if a neo-agrarian culture can avoid the trap of enslavement, that that's the post-simplification future of choice. I say neo-agrarian in the hopes that some of our access to energy and information can be preserved in a bend-not-break scenario. In an economy that resembles pre-colonization Indigenous cultures more than that of the colonizers, the vast majority would be "poor" by the value system of the colonial paradigm, but would be rewarded for their hard work with subsistance, some surplus, rich social life, and satisfaction in the worth of themselves and their efforts. Meanwhile, the rich don't have the skills to survive in a post-simplification world. Neither do the urban and suburban middle class or poor. The real survivers will be the Amish, Ozark farmers, hitherto oppressed Indigenous tribes, and the few who have figured out how to simplify.
As these levels of poverty increase the bonds of the social contract will eventually break and there will be a breakdown of civil society. The rich will hide behind their walls or move to a private island and todays civilization will crash and burn. The climate and energy crisis will exacerbate and accelerate this process. This all assumes that we continue as we are now. It is easy to see that is where this train is heading. That the poverty is long standing and structural is supported by policy that keeps people poor enough and cheap enough labour that they are affordable by the wealthier (what motive is there to change this economic model) and will be maintained until it breaks. One of the better things I heard mentioned in this conversation was a local and community focus. We are a tribal species and we can work well together to solve common problems. The issue with tribal groups is they have the risk of competing in not so nice ways with other tribes. The number of people combined with less energy and resources combined with a hostile climate suggest, at least as far as I can see, to a world where things will get a lot worse for a large segment of the worlds population in spite of our best and most altruistic efforts. This feels like the reality we face. That said we have to collectively do our best, in spite of the challenges we face, to do our best to help each other and adapt to a very difficult future. Sadly i fear many of us, myself included, with the best of intent wont make it through the gate onto the lifeboats once the titanic that is our current world strikes the iceberg and sinks into the oceans of time and history. Great podcast and wonderful work by all. Thank you for what you all do.
And in your discussion with Kate Raworth - or with anyone - why do you never consider rationing, especially energy consumption. Rationing worked during WW2 and not now? How about an episode on the psychology of rationing? Would people really object if everyone was in the same boat and the rations were tradeable so the rich would have to share their income with the poor to obtain more rations to maintain their energy consumption?
Nate, just thinking about your story about the cab driver from Afghanistan and questions of social poverty. I recommend the work of Mia Birdsong and Miki Kashtan for a deeper dive into returning to our communities in such an individualistic culture as that of the US.
Just in case anyone else thinks they're going crazy, there is an occasional beeping in the background like the type of alarm on a watch. But more importantly, nice work Nate
Yeah, well, next to no one envisions dirt under their fingernails (actually doing something positive in relations to taking care of themselves without modern tech). But, you know, in the event of a hard landing, I would be hard pressed to take care of myself let alone all these policy makers who would probably try to force me too... Here's hoping the decline is a catabolic collapse!
as long as we do not focus on money to solve poverty, any monetary economy will lead to poverty and racism. to focus on poverty is not a solution, but complete system change is the way to go. and to find out how much of a system we need, a simple life solves a lot of our troubles, but then most of us have to do it. can not have huge differences in tech and way of life.
Having a hard time here wrapping my head around one American in dire poverty having an income greater than the median global family income. It seems like even the experts haven't realized that in a decade or two they could be working with half the resources.
I'm going to go very contrarian here, but I mean this from a perspective of compassion so please keep this in mind. What I'll say also relates only to healthy individuals without some significant cost driver (such as a disability, mental health issue, etc.). Some people get a harder deal in life, but let's talk about the majority here and not the outliers please. People need to realize that a certain level of consumption isn't a right I think. With creativity and flexibility, it is very possible to live well on an income much lower than the federal poverty levels. It just doesn't come with a new car, your own house / apartment, eating out, fancy phones, etc. A guy named Jacob at "early retirement extreme" shows how house hacking, riding a bike, cheap phones, etc. can give financial freedom. I know because I did it when I was younger. I still don't have a car. My phones are free because they are 1 year old tech, etc. The era of being able to just expect a fancy high consumption lifestyle is over. We need to stop telling people they are victims if they don't get that. People who feel empowered are much happier and secure. Stop trying to make everyone feel like a victim. It's not good for them!
It's quite telling to learn of poverty and inequity in the USA. But if you look at the entire world, there is a whole another blindspot in the scale and relative privilege and consumption. 2.6 Billion people still have no better way to cook or heat than with wood or dung. 775 Million people don't have electricity. 494 million have to practice open defecation. These people will not stay where they are if they are to suffer and die. They will start walking. As we are already seeing. And it is nobody's fault.
Nobody's fault? You are unable to see the intentionality of it all. I don't mean to suggest that there is an active cabal, but there may as well be, considering the sum total of global inequity.
@@treefrog3349how's about usury? Perhaps the bankers mentality taking hold in nearly every man woman and child on the planet... Could that have something to do with it? The idea that you have the right and freedom to make money with your money without producing anything of value whatsoever, also known as financial capitalism, is the devil worshipping to be blamed, in my way of thinking anyway.
Soo sorry I watch all the videos and enjoy all of them but everytime I hear ALICE I am reminded of Roy Chubby Brown's version of living next door to Alice
I really hope when you have Hansen on that you press him on how we deal with climate without a reduction in consumption and population. I've never seen anyone really press one of these climate activists on the science behind this reality.
Many people around the world live comfortable lives while earning only a fraction of what a US minimum wage earner makes. How is this possible? The government allows them to live in simple homes made with materials they could afford in ways they can afford. Here in the US its illegal to live in a home without running water, or without electricity. In the name of safety, millions in the US can no longer afford any housing except a tent. The regulations have caused millions to die because those people can't find a $30/hr job. That's what it takes these days to afford the minimum "approved" housing.
In many countries, housing rent doesn't amount to as sizeable a proportion of working people's monthly income. Here in the U.S. rent can be 30, 40, or even 50 percent of someone's net monthly income--and for many people their rent is raised each year beyond their ability to keep up.
Yes! Totally agree, regulations will stiffle initial progress towards resilience, until such a time comes that the regulations are ignored because no one can afford to maintain adherence or the materials to comply (with building codes for example) no longer exist.
@@robertocupaniopsisanacardi9458 Thanks for the reply. I agree totally. I specifically looked for land in a place without zoning, planning or enforced building codes. I built a 400sf home without running water, heated only by wood. Using a lot of discarded and salvaged materials, and some new materials, the cost of the house was only about $10,000. I built an off grid electric system, and a grey water system. I compost my solid waste (which according to the research, is a safer way to do it.) The end result is that I now only have to earn about $5,000 per year to live a comfortable life. I only need to earn money about 10 hours a month doing contracting work. Ironically, although I have never been poorer, in nominal terms, I have never been more financially secure. When I decided to become comfortably poor it was the best decision I ever made. My life has never been better. It's the opposite of what they've been telling us our whole lives. The way to a better, more secure life is to become comfortably poor.
In one of your videos Nate, you talk about an investment site that you think is good (sustainable investment) can you link to it on one of your websites?
Income based rate structures for utilities have been a discussion for a while now, LIHEAP good/bad/meh is a thing. Short story is; I feel we'd all really benefit from any related discussions with either/both the national Citizen's Utility Board, and/or the WI C.U.B. both of whom are totally chatty, and have a regular booth at the MREA fair. These folks have been working with the interface of domestic energy policy, and usage for years. I've found the perspective to be illuminating. Nate, to state bluntly, I don't feel "general" discussions about poverty- specifically U.S. poverty are an effective use of your time. Which is not to say the topic is silly. The point is that plenty of folks are doing excellent jobs here already. I think I have a years-previous understanding of all of the topics brought up here, and I suspect a large percentage of viewers here might be familiar as well based on many of the current comments. I'm not saying "Stay in your lane!", nor does my opinion matter if I was. I'm saying that there's really a lot of folks doing a solid job navigating this lane currently. I do fear I'm being rude to your guests who seem to be doing excellent, rewarding work. However, I do feel a discussion about low-income accountability/opportunity, or whether or not someone should be able to pay for steaks with FoodShare benefits, should be, has been, and will be happening elsewhere for a long time, and in great volumes. I'm sorry.
Very good converation thank you. I only listened to half of the program.....hey, have to keep up on the genocide underway in Palestine. And oh hey, could eveything be connected? In the 50 minutes that I have listened to, nobody mentioned 1) that the so-called USA spends a trillion dollars a the 'War Department' (that actually used to be the name of the so-called Dept of Defense until it was contraindicated), that is a trillion dollars a year to kill other human beings (all of them 99.9% related to you; family). Also not mentioned, very strangely on an enviornmental program, is 'How many children do these people have?' It's not evil to have numerous children, but it is a stupendous act of ignorence. Why? Because the world is full......it is overfull, in 'overshoot' of Homo sapiens, and the very word informs that this can not be maintained. So as I write Nate just said 'What if people (especially ALICE people) understood what was happening here?' Most (but not all) of our problems are based on biological reality; it is a competive (i.e. everything eats everything else) world. To summarize, a different world is possible, but as a species we need to wake up to ecological reality. The option is your children will die young. Your choice.
I'm hearing a lot of "shoulds, musts, need to's," etc, but not a lot of "reality" in terms of looking at systems thinking and the overall poly-crisis. This episode feels super hopium cringe for a "reality roundtable episode." This episode waters down what made reality roundable discussions so appealing.. the reality discussion, the hard to swallow reality, divorced from hopium, and overly positive motivational speaking.
Great discussion but how can you discuss poverty without including a corner-stone of MMT - the Job Guarantee. And I disagree that creating fiat money to employ people to do green and caring things is borrowing from the future.
Yeah, we're a wealthy nation, but half of all the tax dollars goes to the military. Case in Point: in 1985 I made the mistake of getting out of the U.S. Army. I had gotten married, and was clueless about what I was making on an actuarial basis. A lot of tax-free allowances, on top of my Base Pay, etc. I thought, "Gee, I want to get out so that I can experience the rest of the World while I'm still young." Big mistake. Nothing I ever made afterwards came close to what I made in the military. After getting laid-off from a really nice computer company in 1992, I decided to give-up on the civilian economy and never looked back. I focused on my Army Reserve career and working as a civilian for the military. Gov't and military are where all the salaries are. During the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan I cleaned-up by getting my commission, then serving non-stop TDY tours, here in the States. Got my house paid-off, etc. However, I'd rather live in a society where you didn't have to be in the military, just to have any kind of pay and benefits.
So, to be a bit glib, the plan offered by our expert panel here is to just keep redistributing money and hope the next generation comes up with a solution. Being from one of the model social democratic countries that people like to bring up, I can tell you that simply inflating the tax ouroboros isn't a panacea. ALICE lives here as well, my full-time job couldn't pay for a house, car, and kid. I live outside of the ALICE zone only because I've abstained from those large expenses. The low income inequality means there won't be clear warning signs like those discussed here, so instead the whole thing will give way and break all at once. No chance for a bend. The mantra will be that "nobody saw it coming". Of course people will have seen it coming, we see it coming already, but the machine is too large to be controlled and the handout-dependent ALICE will fight tooth and nail to keep it going at full throttle. The elephant in the room is why the costs of the bare necessities keep increasing when the wages of the people producing them aren't.
Some of the commentators blame the pandemic for worsening poverty and its causes. But it wasn't the pandemic which is the culprit, it was the insane overreaction to the pandemic by those in power who, of course, sufferered not-at-all from that overreaction and, in some cases, actually benefited from it.
Spend 40 days of your current life without any money or access to moneys and your view of what's going on in the world will radically change. Feeling really brave? Go one year living the life that most of the worlds people live. But whatever you do, never ever give money to someone who needs it! That might just make the world a reasonable place, and we can't have that for crying out loud lol
In real life you should have to move from north jersey to south Carolina because the surcharges and cost of living and pace of society combined with the depression that increases with the colder darker months compounds into hopelessness that is temporarily sustainable with leaving everything and moving to the Carolinas
Speaking on segregation in Wisconsin, there is an article titled "Half of wisconsin's black neighborhoods are prisons" which really speaks to the depths of the problem Also, concerning the stigma of poverty in the US, race is a huge factor. Black Americans have been the poorest group for centuries and many of the stereotypes of poor people being lazy and not deserving of help stem from that connection. Even today, Black adults in their 30s are 16 times more likely than white adults to be living in poverty for the third generation in a row.
And how many of the world's, or just the US population is in the unemployed and poor catagory? I have to assume it's a minimum of 10%, but perhaps much more... Inequality or greed? What's the problem anyway? Competitive values rather than cooperative? Perhaps it's "overshoot" eh? People wanting to live beyond their means and have way more than they need, sure makes it seem like inequality is just a result of greed to me.
US National Defense Authorization Act (Military Budget for 2024) 883 Billion Dollars. We gave Zelensky in Ukraine over 100 Billion Dollars to kill Russians over the last Year. About 50 Billion to Netanyahu to kill Palestinians in Gaza. We have no funding shortage but a serious Spending Priority Issues choosing Blood Lust over improving America.
Do y'all know plenty of White people also live their entire lives in poverty? Bipoc this & bipoc that, what about Whites? My electricity is shut off for a week because I can't afford to pay. Having green beans with a chicken leg is a big deal. I'm supposed to take medicine for my heart arrhythmia but I don't because it costs $140. I stopped going to the cardiologist all together because it costs $80. No one cares because I have the wrong skin color. No one understands the resentment that causes to have the entire country only caring about "bipoc" and outright hating on Whites. I care about non-Whites LESS than I ever have because of this blatant hate & racism.
Do you honestly think people don't know that? Just because minority races are being discussed doesn't mean no one acknowledges that poverty impacts all demographics. What a dumb thing to believe.
