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Powering Up Wilhelt to a Zombie Powerhouse | Commander Tune-Ups #89 

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@coreynj
@coreynj Месяц назад
I feel like The Scarab God would be a fantastic addition for this deck since you're creating so many tokens.
@djbisson9819
@djbisson9819 Год назад
Almost fell asleep without my daly nerds. Thanks for another vid you two.
@firstandlast.1254
@firstandlast.1254 Год назад
Do not despair!!!
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds Год назад
Can’t have that! ❤️
@zchadowhd
@zchadowhd Год назад
Yes i love my daly nerds
@lunarlight3131
@lunarlight3131 Год назад
The nerds are the best duo in mtg. Best.duo.ever.
@firstandlast.1254
@firstandlast.1254 Год назад
Man oh man, the combination of pace and depth of this deck tech is hard to match. Great video Nerds!
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds Год назад
Really appreciate it!
@InsomniaticVampire
@InsomniaticVampire Год назад
Lots of interesting ways to build this deck. I made mine a little more beefy with Death Tyrant. When the decayed zombies die, DT makes an untapped zombie for each.
@ollmeister4632
@ollmeister4632 Год назад
I added some drain to my Wilhelt Deck with Meathook and Bastion of Remembrance. These two deal so much damage over time and I always tutor for them to otk with gravecrawler and phyrexian altar. This deck is one of my all time favorites because it plays so smooth and is has way more depth to it than you might think if you hear zombie tribal
@lelandwhitehead56
@lelandwhitehead56 Год назад
Consider looking at Tombstone Stairwell if you like that sort of gameplay. it creates a load of zombies that die on EVERY turn, not just yours.
@Fausto_4841
@Fausto_4841 Год назад
There's a lot of mill that comes in this deck. Wilhelt CAN be built to mill, but with what comes in the pre-con is not enough to support it. The card that trades your damage into mill looks tempting, but it turns your opponent's starting life from 40 to 92.
@Chaoslorden
@Chaoslorden Год назад
I love these deck techs where you tune up people's decks. ❤️
@ChadGurney
@ChadGurney Год назад
The art on Ravenous Rotbelly is \m/. Great content boys!
@Phe0nix1986
@Phe0nix1986 Год назад
Awesome video and thank you for the decklist!!!
@donavandavis1542
@donavandavis1542 Год назад
I was literally just sitting at my desk looking up ideas for my wilhelt deck I'm building. So glad I opened RU-vid because this was the first video on my feed!!
@Cynsham
@Cynsham Год назад
Same I was debating whether I wanted to build a wilhelt deck like a couple days ago
@donavandavis1542
@donavandavis1542 Год назад
@@Cynsham the nerds have to stop reading our minds.
@krimson459
@krimson459 Год назад
I think the tribal lands (Unclaimed Territory, Secluded Courtyard, etc) have a place in this deck specifically for Field of the Dead land variety. If you aren't running field of the dead then you probably want a high swamp count for cards like Cabal Coffers but if you ARE running FotD then I think they make sense.
@Fausto_4841
@Fausto_4841 Год назад
In what game where you play Wilhelt have you EVER 4 mana left up to flash in Overcharged Amalgam to counter anything? An Offer You Can't Refuse is the perfect counter spell for this deck bc you hardly ever have more than 1 or 2 mana left after your turn. Add Graveborn Muse. Yes, she will do a lot of damage to us, but she will speed up the deck. Wilhelt was really powerful right out of the box, but it was pretty slow. I also would have made room for Bastion of Rememberance, the fact that it's on a enchantment and not on a body is worth the slot. You didn't mention Blood Artist, but I wonder if it was already part of the deck you didn't have to adjust. I would have Bastion before Blood Artist. Pinging when opponent creatures die is nice, but I prefer doing damage to the whole table when my things die. Also, I keep Poppet. I know it's slow and fragile, but that's what makes so sweet to pull off. I know there is aversion to infinites, but I think if you can pull off a 7 piece combo that takes 3 turns being vulnerable you deserve to go infinite. Even the people who get salty about infinites respect the Poppet Combo. Don't sleep on the fact it will make you a decayed zombie for every instant and sorcery you play. I've got a Balmor deck that loves it's PT-ST
@mikegames7719
@mikegames7719 Год назад
I have been looking for a while how to make overcharged amalgam good in wilhelt...I also just can't find it. I never find myself having leftover mana.
@fresh21627
@fresh21627 Год назад
Great video. Love zombies 🧟‍♂️. Great adds n cuts. Thnks 😊
@violetstyles255
@violetstyles255 Год назад
Another combo for anyone on a budget is Liliana, Untouched by Death, any sac outlet, and Shambling Ghast. -3 Liliana and then sac the ghast choosing to create a treasure. Use that treasure to cast the ghast and rinse and repeat
@charliemarlow647
@charliemarlow647 Год назад
Gotta love a good zombie tribal deck! My favourite commander for it is Varina because having white gives you access to some sweet cards like Corpse Knight, God-Eternal Oketra and Necromancer's Covenant.
@muhlor
@muhlor Год назад
you have like a gazillion options to turn Wilhelt into a faceroller either with tribal or infinite combos. Who the heck needs white for Zombies? eeew!!
@charliemarlow647
@charliemarlow647 Год назад
@@muhlor those who don't solely care for power ;)
@EpsiilonKuro
@EpsiilonKuro Год назад
This is just my opinion, but Buried Alive can work really well if you have Poxwalkers in your deck. Poxwalkers can come to the field for free if you cast a spell from anywhere other than your hand, so it works really well in tandem with Gravecrawler. I also like Scourge Of Nel Toth as the third option for Buried Alive. I hope this helps any fellow Zombie tribal players 😁
@yavivanov6650
@yavivanov6650 Год назад
I don't know, 3/1 death touch is pretty bad, even if it returns tapped once or twice a game. If you want to exploit sack loops gravecrawler should be enough
@EpsiilonKuro
@EpsiilonKuro Год назад
@@yavivanov6650 eh honestly after you said that and I gave it more thought, it is pretty bad 😂 thanks for helping me smooth out my deck a little lol
@guzman8573
@guzman8573 Год назад
Gravecrawler and Neltoth are great especially when you have Tormod giving you free 2/2 zombies when anything leaves the graveyard
@gtfawaynotnow
@gtfawaynotnow Год назад
Wilhelt is my fav dimir commander and zombie is my fav tribe. ❤ In my opinion the zombie tribe is like the Swiss Army knife of tribes bc there is a zombie card or combo for nearly every effect you can think of. I guess you are somewhat limited on selection but I’m shocked you didn’t add Liliana dreadhorde general which you yourselves highly recommended. I cannot even imagine a zombie deck without that planeswalker. Also unholy grotto is another auto include for zombie tribal.
@dylanl.9655
@dylanl.9655 Год назад
Lili is already in there! One of the best curve toppers for sure
@freedomstripe
@freedomstripe Год назад
Speaking from experience, it become very easy to deck yourself with Kindred Discovery
@TheGreatBryan25
@TheGreatBryan25 Год назад
Been there, done that. Lol
@ChrisMcGiggity
@ChrisMcGiggity Год назад
Great video nerds!! Also going to a tribal commander tournament soon and heavily debating between wilhelt and varina. Infinite combo isnt allowed so kinda torn which to use and what to include instead of combos. Any suggestions welcome!
@12jacobmar
@12jacobmar Год назад
I haven't had luck with Wilhelt so this was greatly needed!
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds Год назад
Hope this helped!
@overknox6558
@overknox6558 Год назад
If I may: buried alive is very much worth keeping. Its a deck that cares about the gy, and it can win some games on the spot with things like Wonder or Filth in the deck, specially with urborg (while at the same time geting the gravecrawler for the combo piece, or a lord for some critical dmg points)
@Memelord4dayz
@Memelord4dayz Год назад
Guy check out raving Dead. Huge hitter on the battlefield!
@kingnido6606
@kingnido6606 Год назад
Fresh cut beezy Looking sharp 💚
@blacfiberx7x
@blacfiberx7x 10 месяцев назад
What an awesome deck build. I have a question about Mikaeus, since he puts a +1/+1 on other zombies, ot to mention all the other counters, how exactly will he be able bring zombies back from the graveyard? I'm sure I'm just missing something. Thanks for all you do. Cheers
@yavivanov6650
@yavivanov6650 Год назад
My favourite channel has an episode about my favourite commander OH MY GaoD
@Jonzin4BeatzNYC
@Jonzin4BeatzNYC Год назад
2 cards missing here in this upgrade. A. Sakashima's Will 2. Grave Titan lol Wish I was going to Philly so I could jam some EDH games with you but I will be heading to Albany to spend my birthday with the love of my life and JoKoy.
@natureboy95
@natureboy95 Год назад
I do believe I shall be sharing this video with my friend Candace, see if she finds anything fun to add or edit for her own Wilhelt deck :)
@patricklynch4074
@patricklynch4074 Год назад
I'm pretty brand new and my first deck is the wilhelt precon! Im struggling to build it cuz im not sure whether to prioritize theme or powerful staples, multiple strats or hard on one. Rn i have zombie token buffing, a few staples, some mill and recur stuff, but i have too many cards already. Not sure how many draw cards, opponent discards, counters, etc i should add
@coltonsilli1351
@coltonsilli1351 Год назад
Love how you guys use DI or disposable income. Great channel!!!
@islarf5095
@islarf5095 Год назад
A non zombie creature I like for my wilhelt deck is Skirsdag High Priest. Tap 2 of your decayed zombie creatures (and itself) and make a 5/5 flying demon token
@vasylpark2149
@vasylpark2149 Год назад
Village rites is not the best bang for your buck, but it is a good solid sac draw spell for it's cost.
@lelandwhitehead56
@lelandwhitehead56 Год назад
For Village Rites, it's important to note that you can use it on the Decayed zombies created by Wilhelt while the Decayed trigger is on the stack. They were going to die anyway. 1 mana draw 2 isn't bad at all.
@thomasdick6797
@thomasdick6797 Год назад
Ngl, I actually got this precon when it came out and was super disappointed, I didn't know what direction to take it and i Didn't want to just play the same deck that everyone copied online, but it's been long enough that I think it'll be a nice deck to play, thanks for the video and ideas
@WikkitKlown
@WikkitKlown Год назад
Saw in half would be fun in this deck
@mikeashe7270
@mikeashe7270 Год назад
Always make sure a zombie deck has plague Belcher, overcharged Alamgam has been soo couch for my Wilhelt deck so many times as well as grimgrin. And I agree empty the laboratory into a lucky Gary is such a fun win
@uniqueatbest9646
@uniqueatbest9646 Год назад
In my experience, Gravespawn Sovereign can be a huge payoff, but most of the time you're going to be one short, it's a little too intensive on mana and the ability cost to really pop off each game, still a cool zombie, definitely include if you're running loads more graveyard synergy.
@dhantefranklin336
@dhantefranklin336 Год назад
Agreed. I ended up cutting it.
@chelseacomer1363
@chelseacomer1363 Год назад
Wasn't prosper the first 4cmc do the thing you want plus card draw commander?
@DMCDCW
@DMCDCW Год назад
Amazing content
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds Год назад
Thank you!
@Fidofie
@Fidofie Год назад
A bit late to the party, but I'd like to hear your thoughts on Unholy Grotto and Phyrexian Delver in an edh zombie deck. Grotto is basically Volrath's Stronghold in this deck and Delver is a very costly Reanimate, but on a zombie. Even later to the party on this one, but I just wanted to tell you that I completely followed your advice on how to update the Strefan pre con deck, and it performs so well! Keep up the good work! 😊
@johnreese5739
@johnreese5739 Год назад
(Potentially) hot take but I think that Wilhelt is one of the best dimir controller at the moment, from a power level perspective that is.
@natetaylor2346
@natetaylor2346 Год назад
I mean, a lot of the cards you added came with the commander deck you could buy 🤷‍♂️
@mmmbetter55
@mmmbetter55 Год назад
I've been waiting for this one!
@cdevans97
@cdevans97 Год назад
my first commander
@Pixel165
@Pixel165 Год назад
Sleeping on Dreadhorde invasion 🤕🤕 and gravespawn sovereign is hella clunky
@Fausto_4841
@Fausto_4841 Год назад
Love the little draw and token generator. I don't think I've ever had the tokens get lifelink when they reach 6 power.
@Pixel165
@Pixel165 Год назад
@User #4841 Yeah it practicly never comes up but happened to me once when I dropped a coat of arms
@HectorGallegosmusic
@HectorGallegosmusic Год назад
I like village rites in my Teysa Karlov aristocratic deck. Let’s me sac a creature to drain opponents…then draws me 2 cards. At instant speed. I’m not saying it’s a fantastic card, but it works well in my sac deck. Can’t imagine replacing it with a better one drop that let’s me draw and drain.
@brightonpopsoff4970
@brightonpopsoff4970 Год назад
Bruh I love you guys
@bazzam429
@bazzam429 Год назад
I think if you're going to play zombies, you have to enjoy playing with the graveyard, however i love champion of the perished, and gisa ghoulcaller. Imagine sacrificing that 20/20 and making 20 2/2s. Also I'd put in living death.
@joebertalmio6438
@joebertalmio6438 11 месяцев назад
So much more CMC...
@dylan9624
@dylan9624 Год назад
Would endless ranks of the dead be a good add to this?
@ty_sylicus
@ty_sylicus 9 месяцев назад
They didn't start with the precon but, lots of great picks here all the same.
@jeremymoore7167
@jeremymoore7167 Год назад
i wonder if a scarab god deck was also considered.
@mmmbetter55
@mmmbetter55 Год назад
Yeah I cut Tainted Adversary (after I briefly put it in) and all the other cards that made Decayed Zombies from the deck, because they're not useful. The only thing you want making decayed Zombies is Wilhelt.
@lukeyuginovich3962
@lukeyuginovich3962 9 месяцев назад
Do you guys have a deck teck for scarab god zombie deck?
@Pok-qq9lt
@Pok-qq9lt 14 дней назад
does necroduality and rotcleaver realy chains that much? because the 2nd rotcleaver is a token and then it does not trigger necroduality. so it ends. its not a kombo, right ?
@RazgrizAce67
@RazgrizAce67 Год назад
As an avid NN fan. All my decks have multiple MDFC's.
@Csteffee9
@Csteffee9 Год назад
Wizards should print a black and/or blue version of beast within and a dimir qasali pridemage or rec sage zombie! Artifact/ enchantment removal is the only thing I find myself wanting in my build. My favorite deck to play on game nights! Solid deck tech. Personally don't love gravespawn sovereign.
@jayjayhooksch1
@jayjayhooksch1 Год назад
Feed the swarm for enchantment removal and Gate to Phyrexia for artifact removal. Not as good as a rec sage zombie, wouldn't that be a dream, but at least it's an option.
@Csteffee9
@Csteffee9 Год назад
@@jayjayhooksch1 I use feed the swarm for enchantments and resculpt for artifacts. A piece that has synergy would be amazing though
@vauk5081
@vauk5081 Год назад
I might turn my The Scarab God deck into a Wilhelt deck. Spice of life and whatnot.
@timwilliams92
@timwilliams92 Год назад
I’m gonna do the same
@jamessimms9407
@jamessimms9407 Год назад
yup. same been running TSG for like 2 years now. Its fun but gotta get so many pieces together to do some serious damage. Played wilhelt before might just take my TSG and change it!
@BillyCharleneGarris
@BillyCharleneGarris Год назад
Hey fellow nerds , love the video and all the others, I run a lot of zombies and goblins decks but would love some advice for a certain zombie deck I have , the commander is Thraximunder , please help me speed the deck up and I'm running a lot of the cards you guys are talking about but also a lot of curses , love the deck but been having problems with people out playing me with the speed of their decks
@BillyCharleneGarris
@BillyCharleneGarris Год назад
Also I been running 10 basic lands per color of the commander with a lot of lands with special abilities
@BillyCharleneGarris
@BillyCharleneGarris Год назад
One more thing since the deck I have is also a heavy sacrifice deck I run black market, figured it would help out ... Thanks for all your guys videos too
@joranmoore5663
@joranmoore5663 Год назад
What do y'all think of Ghoulcaller's Chant?
@equos5060
@equos5060 Год назад
Galea Kindler of Hope maybe? Pleeeeaseeee! It's soo hard for me to make it work!
@JL-xv9di
@JL-xv9di 10 месяцев назад
Lol, I watched the zombie video from three years ago right before this. You've come a long way on production values.
@dubbsmt6128
@dubbsmt6128 Месяц назад
I like Gisa and Geralf more because I run Sidisi Undead Vizier. Cast Sidisi sac her to herself find the G and G play that and then you can keep casting Sidisi each turn
@jayjayhooksch1
@jayjayhooksch1 Год назад
Overcharged amalgam and gravespawn sovereign are both too resource intensive, they will never do their thing. I would replace them with shambling ghast and Liliana, untouched by death. Liliana is just a good card on her own (plays nicely with rooftop storm too) and is a combo with shambling ghast, a sac outlet and a drain creature.
@GoStarlightRedGo
@GoStarlightRedGo Год назад
Hol on… r we just not gonna acknowledge that fresh Azz fade on beezy!!! I c u my boi!
@gazetronix
@gazetronix Год назад
What about the mana curve?
@brendans1983
@brendans1983 Год назад
Beezy looking like Drago from Rocky IV 👌
@xkidxander
@xkidxander Год назад
Could someone look at my deck what would be the most impotant upgrade i have about 20-30€ left for upgrades?
@kodalaforce4687
@kodalaforce4687 3 месяца назад
Could you guys upgrade my The Scarab God zombie commander deck?
@radiodemon5774
@radiodemon5774 Год назад
Can I get your opinion on Vonas hunger? I think it might be the greatest thing ever.
@jayjayhooksch1
@jayjayhooksch1 Год назад
You can have my opinion, fwiw. If you have the city's blessing it's obviously strong. However, when you have the city's blessing it's likely that you would have had the mana to cast even stronger options; gravepact, living death, kindred dominance. I think even cards like Liliana, Dreadhorde General and Ravenous Rotbelly are going to be more effective since they synergize with everything else you have going on. The rest of the time, when you don't have the city's blessing, this card is pretty bad. Overall I would say it doesn't make the list, as it does too little early and is outclassed late.
@radiodemon5774
@radiodemon5774 Год назад
But in the late game you get a one sided wipe that you can easily double spell with. At instant speed. And in the early game before you have blessing it’s bad, but it’s better than uncastable kindred dominance
@Goodthrust69
@Goodthrust69 Год назад
Trying to guess the timestamp of when you praise Grave Titan. My guess is 26:18.
@krevin543
@krevin543 10 месяцев назад
Not sure how mikaeus the unhallowed combos here, can someone help me out?
@moomoomiltank
@moomoomiltank Год назад
Guys don’t kill Amber, don’t let the cat out of the bag 💰
@tristanherrick7273
@tristanherrick7273 Год назад
Nice haircut, Beezy
@Arsenjohn
@Arsenjohn Год назад
If neceoduality is an add go ahead in put in a “ reflections of litijara”. Boom, two chances to pull the same card. And it’s a $2 card
@jayjayhooksch1
@jayjayhooksch1 Год назад
Reflections doesn't work with reanimate effects since it's on cast rather than on ETB. Pretty big deal in Zombie tribal.
@dustfinger_until_dawn
@dustfinger_until_dawn Год назад
I am sad that no one mentioned tombstone stairwell
@el_maoo
@el_maoo Год назад
love how they called the puppet combo janky and slow after including an even slower and more janky combo in the deck
@famousstranger8468
@famousstranger8468 Год назад
You forgot to add grave titan
@davidhowell1415
@davidhowell1415 Год назад
I’m starting to realize I’m not a normal player because I spend $200 on half my mana base.
@speznaleague2710
@speznaleague2710 Год назад
I think the mana curve is to high in this deck. I play a lot of Wilhelt. Stronger decks will stomp you before you can play most of your expensive cards. i would leave some cheaper spells in it. Got zombies are also: relentless dead, gray merchant of asphodel, crypbreaker, nightscape familiar and Diregraf Colossus. "scarab god" is very good as well. Oh ye and all Blood artist like effects make your infinit Gravecrawler combo allmost unstoppable.
@MrPikawika4444
@MrPikawika4444 Год назад
I mean it matters on how powerful you want to get but buried alive has so many combos you can instantly get in your graveyard for reanimation.
@danmen1094
@danmen1094 6 месяцев назад
¿What about a Liliana, dread horde general?
@robertfrizzell1970
@robertfrizzell1970 Год назад
buried alive incredible. poor choice to cut.
@katulu5691
@katulu5691 Год назад
HEELL YEAH MY FAV COMMANDER
@rthayes00
@rthayes00 Год назад
Amber 🥰, great vid
@a_guy_in_orange7230
@a_guy_in_orange7230 Год назад
I said it was tomorrow yesterday so lets go, SHOW ME 19:26 babyyyyyyyyy Edit: Okay maybe next week
@davidhowell1415
@davidhowell1415 Год назад
Push my zombie cards!!!
@dhantefranklin336
@dhantefranklin336 Год назад
Death Tyrant 1000% should be in any Wilhelt deck. A lot of the time, I find myself using tutors to search for it rather than Rooftop Storm! Also, Noosegraf Mob is overlooked in a lot of zombie decks.
@steveirwinismydaddy4216
@steveirwinismydaddy4216 Год назад
Amber carrying the show with her presence
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds Год назад
She makes it so much better
@rippujin1735
@rippujin1735 Год назад
Lol now I’m regretting all my decisions from building my Wilhelt deck
@Thunderstormftw
@Thunderstormftw Год назад
God I love ZOMBIES!!! 🧟‍♂️ 🧟‍♂️ 🧟‍♂️ 🧟‍♂️ 🧟‍♂️
@jacobglass5744
@jacobglass5744 Год назад
Moxfield 15:15
@Goatzilla117
@Goatzilla117 Год назад
Replace village rites with pot of greed, it's way better.
@energetek661
@energetek661 Год назад
Dimir and Amber!! What could be better!?!?😁😁😁💙🖤
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds Год назад
Nothing!
@izzydarkhart4144
@izzydarkhart4144 Год назад
1 mana for 2 cards, and the downside is losing a zombie token? I'm not seeing the downside to village rights, lol. I have used it and never felt bad about it. You are spitting hairs I guess.
@WayfarersBauble
@WayfarersBauble Год назад
Acceptable
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds Год назад
❤️
@suntitan4429
@suntitan4429 Год назад
All zombies are always dead
@weihaigoh9734
@weihaigoh9734 Год назад
A lot of nice card but dont have enough money to buy them. XD Brain Brain 🧠
@RiskyComment
@RiskyComment Год назад
No Grave Titan? I'm disappointed
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds Год назад
But can you say you’re surprised?
@tedbauermeister5183
@tedbauermeister5183 Год назад
The best upgrade for a Wilhelt commander deck is making The Scarab God your commander instead
@henrywisner9268
@henrywisner9268 Год назад
Why does Beezy look like a model now
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