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Yeah, Pozy is definitely overtuned relative to Schwarz. I haven't built Pozy yet so I still use Schwarz all over the place and I too love her outfit (mostly the R6 one). I think it'd have been better if Pozy never had any DEF shred so she wouldn't be eclipsing Schwarz this much considering she has insane multipliers already on top of shooting super fast.
Def shred is okay honestly, she just does too much burst damage. I feel like they should have made her skills have a different typewriter component to make her typewriter more of a support rather than mini her. For instance, her first skill could increase the defense shred of the typewriter, her second skill could have the typewriter’s shots stun enemies, and her third skill could make the typewriter inflict fragile or something, instead of copying the skills directly, with reduced numbers on the typewriter’s damage. Thus, she would have niches on all 3 skills and damage on s3, but you would need both the typewriter and pozy to target the same enemy, with schwarz out damaging either of them alone by a lot.
@@georgezhang1573 exactly, having a summon that can do basically equivalent damage is so strong, and they can be deployed in different positions as well to cover more of the map if there isn't one high def/hp target, but multiple coming from different entry points. Kinda think pozy might be a little overtuned...
though the major defining trait for her dps is the need to have another ranged tile that aims directly at her target, she needs 2 range tiles for one target which sometimes is hard to do when another lane's enemies blocks the boss or just the lack of a tile to use. It really does seem more of a convenience and optimal approach for this archtype. AND THEN THERE'S TYPHON WHO KNOCKS THEM BOTH DOWN
The winner are the doctors who have them both! Pozy wins fair and square against Schwarz in total burst damage but that doesn't mean Schwarz is now useless. Schwarz still has the advantage of one block farther range and faster redeployment time that Pozy (not the typewritter tho). I use both of them together because why not? lmao
Pozyomka definitely powercreeped Schwarz Schwarz is better against enemies with more than 2.6k def but that defense is even hard to find on CCs lmao Pozyomka has absurd utility that cant be matched
@@Mikufan-lb7zu Pozy doesnt need to put the type writer close to her Its litterally a 3% difference Also TOTAL damage being dealt is still more than Schwarz on 2.6k defense
I think Pozy powercreeped all other sniper as well, except the holungday. she is basically 2 snipers in 1 kit. if the typewriter only provide def debuff i think Pozy is more balanced.
I would say exu and ash are both still useful since they take buffs so well. Technically schwarz still has a small niche with her faster cycle as well, and Rosa still has her unique range and bind. Basically all other snipers except chalter are niche compared to pozy.
@@georgezhang1573 Especially with Rosa's cracked module, she definitely has that bind and DPS down and can keep a dangerous enemy Pozy and Schwarz's sweet spot right in the tiles in front of them for them to get max DPS potential for a while.
Pozy really needs to be cross firing with her turret to match Schwarz damage against high armor, and that restricts high ground placements. Schwarz also has faster skill cycles and faster repositioning, so is more flexible when chasing a boss around.
@@konkonart7128 pozy can also just put the turret in front or behind her. And for many bosses, either the turret alone is enough or the boss won’t let schwarz fire for her entire duration
@@georgezhang1573 true, it depends on the boss. Pozy is better for low armor bosses, bosses that don't stand still, or bosses whose paths round corners. On the other hand, bosses that walk in straight lines or bosses that Pozy can't punch through (with her turret) Schwarz has the advantage.
and i don't think this has to change, unless devs introduce more challenging bosses it's not like bosses became harder to kill for Schwarz, so i don't see the point of specifically switching
pozyomka without buff full duration skill + summon can reach 100k if the enemy has no defense, schwarz's total is around half of pozyomka's, sad day for schwarz fan (as comparison, most killer operators total damage is around 40k to 70k, pozy just breaks it all)
Yes in most of the situations, you can use Pozemka over schwarz. Schwarz has 2 upsides against Pozemka, she has 1 tile more reach and higher attack. The thing about schwarz is, she will perform better in CC since she has a lot higher damage than pozemka. Enemies become hellish tanky in CC for Pozemka to deal much damage. Faster ASPD and Double hit means you'll lose more dps per defense and the ATK down risks will kill Pozemka's dps. But for general content, yeah pozemka is superior.
Pozy does more DPS in most circumstances and there is a case to be made for powercreep. But I think you're being negligent with this comparison, specifically in the Frostnova portion. It's impossible for the typewriter alone to do more DPS than Schwarz. Schwarz is under a 30 ASPD debuff from the cold status effect. In addition: - Schwarz is missing 46 ATK from being lvl 69 (~5% of her max attack) - Schwarz is in the squad and buffing Pozy (13-15%) Schwarz buffing herself is debatable. You could argue in favor because it's one of the reasons you would bring Schwarz over Pozy in the first place and against if it's meant to be a 1v1 comparison because it would require a 2nd sniper. However, Pozy has no business receiving a Schwarz buff in a direct comparison between the two.
I saw a video somewhere (probably Yii's) also comparing Pozy and Schwarz, and Schwarz actually beats Pozy when you compare them side-by-side damaging Mephisto (Ch 8 form) in his second phase where he has that shield thingy. Edit: Just so I'm clear, when I say Schwarz "beats" Pozy, I meant that she deals overall more damage to Mephisto but doesn't necessarily kills it. Also, this comparison is pretty much an extreme case so yeah, the point of this video still proves true for general cases.
Schwarz still covers the very long range niche, she's sitting somewhere between Fartooth and Pozy now, with DPS between them, but range also between them
My question is how does a poet with zero combat experience compare to a professional bodyguard with 20 years of experience? Is the typewriter that much of an advantage? I guess with Chen alter existing, lore accurate strength is hard to gauge because dual waterguns beat almost everything. I got Pozy, Chen alt, and Schwarz on the same banner though, just have to decide which to build next.
What largely plays in Pozy's favor is that she's basically a clown car fitting two operators in one, basically doubling her already insane dps, you could try those tests again without the typewriter.
So shame for some Schawrz fan. They knew your waifu lose in 99% content in game but they still insist on confusing arguments like if there is no typewriter, Pozy will lose???.Typewriter is one of her talents and they forbade her to use it to bet on Schawrz?Of course there are still schawrz fans Civilization accepts and says Schawrz has lost but they will still love and use her as their number 1 choice (I like those types of people).So some Schawrz fan Pls accept your waifu is underpowered and now let's use her as a waifu but in terms of meta it's not used much (although still very strong)
Their number 1 cope argument is still "why not use both?", showing that they can't imagine that instead of bringing Schwarz they can put Ops more easier to use like Surtr or Silverash...
Pozy definitely powercreep Schwarz on every content that offers reward. Schwarz still have use case in high risk cc and niche clear tho. Especially if you pick atk down tag, armor up tag, tiles ban tag or dp down tag. As for niche clear, Schwarz is usually better in 1 tile clear or sniperknight clear.
i just found out about this gold!! started playing 2 days ago, managed to get pozy and the other banner girl from free ticket!! but it seems hard to max a unit in this game
I love my Pink Wolf Seriously hell with you Schwartz, you never show up in all my draw since your damn first release Edit (forgot to add) : I even max my Pozyomka M3 all her skills, that's how I much I said fūck you to Schwartz
Would have liked seeing performance without Typewriter as well. I mean, obviously Pozy will still be the better unit overall, and it usually isn’t hard to get the Typewriter to hit the same target, but it is something I’d like to see while we’re doing damage comparisons
Yeah, I agree. Would've liked to see her deliver damage without her typewriter, since it felt like she had more support helping her than Shwarz doing the damage alone
Schwarz increasing attack interval while Pozyomka gets to decrease it is just unfair to our belowed cat girl. Her only usage now is sniper knights, cause atk buff go brr.
Whenever i get Pozëmka in a different banner after the banner is now gone i want the 2 of them work together to beat the boss in seconds as what i have to on quote: When you don't work together and doing it all by yourself to suffer there is always a person that keep up and helping you to solved your problems. (Im a Schwarz simp all dps should work together even when the stages is fail don't stop and keep trying always to remember that)
Pozy fast aspd and decently high Dph also typewriter makes her Dps overall higher than swrz, even though swrz red number looks amazing. It can be simplified roughly as 4x2=8(pozy) vs 6x1=6(swrz).😊 Typewriter placement can be clanky at some stages, but most of the time it made April also get power crept..😅
I have both pozy and schwarz. I see pozy capable to kill enemy faster than schwarz. But there are times that I see both pozy and her type writer cant even deal half of damage on certain non boss creature. But Schwarz straight up destroying it. It just get me confused when to use either of this.
Why not both my ass, man. That's not the point. The point is Poz > Schw. Even with Schwarz's other module, Poz and her dumbwriter still win. That aside, are we Schw enjoyers not allowed to get pissed at HG for releasing this broken unit that does the same shit as Schw but better? They are the same rarity ffs. Now some people are going to tell me that it is what it is, powercreep is inevitable, just accept it, which of course I have to accept it, but I will still have my opinion: I think HG just pointed their middle finger at our feline friend.
schwarz can take be good for correcting mistake like placing or deal boss in poison mist without medic. Pozemka can stay safe without entering enemy attack range. but when come to cost of deployment, pozemka need more dp than schwarz to deploy both with typewriter and i think pozemka without typewriter can loss her armor piercing talent
It's very sad to sacrifice a 6* Unit like this. They could have been more smart to make a different use like with Mlynar and Silverash. And trying to hook on the excuse of using both Schwarz and Pozy can't delete the fact that HG made the blatant choice of powercreep.
Yeah and "Use both schwarz and pozy" is such a stupid cope, like you will NEVER need to use both of them, its a different thing that you bring Schwarz the underperformer now forcefully to feel like she isn't completely overshadowed. I'm a somewhat new player and this powercrept scares me, hopefully this will happen extremely rarely in the future :/
@@dellee4793 Thats a good point, but to get that buff you will need to deploy Schwarz... and also think about it... when will an 8% buff be a breaking point for someone like pozy who does so much damage I'm not sure actually I think unless someone is doing only sniper clears Schwarz won't be used with Pozy because it's simply unnecessary to spend 20 dp just to get 8% buff on already extremely high damage ... If Schwarz gave 8% buff to snipers just by existing in the squad then I guess it would make sense to always have her.. which makes me think thats a good idea to make her relevant and not get overshadowed.. to give her this buff and let her buff snipers by 8% just by existing in the squad
@@Anonymous-pv7ob Pozy just by herself will be more than enought to clear mosty anything. And copium Schwarzfans can't think that instead of her, they can put any strong, easier to use and more versatile units like Surtr or Silverash. Why bother to bring a 2nd sniper that needs a 3rd high tile (Pozy+writer+Schwarz) aligned perfectly on a no moving target while they can just wipe the place with Pozy + Silverash or S3 Eyfja... It's just funny and sad how they try desesperately to find a justification to Schwarz existence now.
we dont need to compare both.... JUST PUT EM ON SAME TEAM! DOUBLE THE WHAMM!! just like i have done with Elysium and Myrtle.... double the DP print LEL... now i can deploy Mr Lee and Jayee at the same time!
Sir @BoostStreams i hereby came as an advocate for Mrs.Schwarz regarding of this video comparison against Madam Pozemka In Mrs.Schwarz defense the video showed that Mrs.Schwarz in a level lower than Madam Pozemka herself who's already at max level meanwhile Mrs.Schwarz still remained at level 69 Not only that Madam Pozemka had a supporting equipment that assists her in dealing damage towards enemies but Mrs.Schwarz had to do all the numbers on her own Mrs.Schwarz as you've stated lacks in ASPD as her 3rd skill is active in exchange for huge numbers of critical damage as for Madam Pozemka her ASPD increases as her 3rd skill is active This video comparison is still great nonetheless although i would like to remind you all that this is me just making a little joke about this showcase since the operators and their skills already spoke for themselves regarding of their worth in future events and chapters
your patriot is a bit unbalanced since they get a bonus damage to the tile directly in front of them. schwarz has support skills of +sniper damage. whereas Poze's kit is pure damage in itself. its more of a case of using both. yeah if you only bring one poze is better. also you didn't get into skill cycles, but both are pretty short so its effectively not that different. schwarz is 25 up 25 down, poze is 30 up and 35 down, 40 if you wait for the typewriter. so schwarz cycles better.
One thing you failed to mention is how her typewriter is perfectly lined up with her skill recycling time, it means she will always have her skill ready when the typewriter gets deployed again
I have found a scenario where Schwarz is outright superior to Pozy within trials of navigator. In tn-4 ultimate, Patriot stats are inflated far above what the base story has. Using the same buffs and conditions Horn+Schwarz can down Patriot to phase 1 within 1 skill cycle and reposition to the next location to take out phase 2, while Horn+Pozy can't. Against extremely high stats and defenses Schwarz is irreplaceable in terms of snipers, even Pozy with turret support can't keep up. That said, to down Maggy without using a preconstructed squad I ended up using Schwarz, Pozy, and Fartooth.
Good judge about 'em. But I still both using 'em cuz they're deadly duo. Cuz I know how to use 'em both. (Schwarz my first 6*) (Also one of my Friend list said "Pozemka = Pink Chisato".)
JuSt USe ThEm BoTH-- Jokes aside, pozy might powercrept shwarz, and i do love my mommy shwarz, but in the end of the day, it doesnt really matter cuz they both fulfill their role magnificently anyway. this coming from a guy that have them both, and i dont even bother comparing them, i just bring em together everytime in every stage, basically ez mode now haha
What crazy is Pozyomka alone Still win in terms of DPS wt/Typewritter (roughly 1000 DPS different) bcs unlike Schartz, she reduce her atk and modified base damage quite a lot, However, since she need typewritter to reduce enemies defense. Otherwise, pozyomka alone falls Sharply once she meet 1000 Defense. But after typewriter kick in, Schwartz is No match on her bcs her typewritter is copy of herself w/ Defense debuff and bit steroid just like he (Booststream) said unless the enemies defense is 2K, and the thing is, 2K enemies defense are *SUPER RARE* outside from Contingency Contract, but even then, player often better of to pick easier risk but same risk point anyway.
SSS and Trials of Navigator are also modes that sees enemy boss units with 2k+ defense. with CC that covers all end game modes except IS2/3. It's becoming more common as more end game modes are released.
Remember, Schwarz is 5 DP cheaper, has lower Redeployment and buffs other sniper operators. While Pozy goes all in on damage Schwarz loses some power due to having a broader kit.
You say broader kit like she has multiple advantages in her kit over pozy. All she has over pozy is the ability to buff other snipers. Pozy's typewriter has fast redeploy and will always cost 5 dp no matter how many times it's been retreated. Schwarz will cost 5 dp more after her first retreat.
I don't really fear powercreep like others do in this game. I only play a few gachas but the ones that I do tend to handle powercreep in very good ways, imho. You're not talking about a game that generally balances around the power-tuned characters. And even if that were to happen, I imagine it will only happen at a more glacial pace than most Gacha games. I still feel like I can use very old, outdated ops to smash maps most of the time with the odd map that needs either big brains or bit extra oomph that usually can be found in buffs. Also overtuned operators aren't exactly new xP. I guess my point is that the only way this becomes an actual issue is if they start looking at every future event as a good time to tune the enemies so hard that pozy is the only possible choice.
the reason why power creeping is not so bad in this game is that it barely has any PvP. That alone will make people tilt and showing you how powercreep affects the game. This games even gives you the option to have friends who have am OP character to borrow in a stage and the rest can be substitute with mediocre operators to help clear it
Is not that easy. Yostar can't nerf Operators *unless* that Operator abuse some type of Glitch/Bug. It was bad design? Probably, Poze powercreep most of the Snipers *but* unlike other gacha games. In Arknights you can use any formation and this can serve you (if it is well armed)
Why not both? Tho poor Schwarz. Pozy powercreeps her in general content. Tho I dont know when I will use Pozy, if at all. This banner left me with a sour taste.
As someone who don't own Schwarz but have pulled Pozy. I can confirm this is true as for who won? Both, both won. Personally i would use both Pozy and Schwarz to shred through stages.
I used Schwarz s1 in IS with Wrath of Siracusans, she took out Playwright with 3 shots in the red tile he spawned. Doubt pozy can do that with any relic.
crossbow cat does her job just a little bit slower than pozy, not a big deal. Also pozy didn't win in every competition, she's not as badass as schwarz
I don't think we need to talk about power creep, because his power and weak his the Typhoon. Pozemka have an aggresive module for now and Schwarz an supportive.( but i don't think change so much) And just because i like Schwarz she kill the Rat king, Pozemka no.
Tbh i don't think Schwarz is powercrepted that much, she just gets beaten the crap of by pozy in terms of versatility in my opinion. An Operator that deals more damage in low amounts of time doesn't mean they powercreep the comparing Operator, as you said Schwarz hits hard meaning she does better at dealing with high def which is huge enough to say shes strong.
*It was bad design?* Probably, Pozy powercreep most of the Snipers *but* unlike other gacha games. In Arknights you can use any formation and it can work well (if is a good strategy). I recently got Schwarz. So I had good reason to skip this Limited Banner and save up for the Monster Hunter Collaboration. (Because I have Blaze and now Schwarz) The only annoying thing is that she appeared right after her R6 Skin disappeared from the Shop (so it annoyed me a bit)
only for the full effectiveness of posy it is necessary that she and her crossbow shoot at the same target аnd without this, Posy will only deal half damage to Schwarz on armored targets
Dude this is the worst comparison i have ever seen, defense being the only factor here, you should just progressively fight enemies with higher and higher defense
Utility-wise, yes, Pozy wins over Schwarz. Do keep in mind, that I feel the biggest advantage Pozy over Schwarz are Having summonable unit hat share the same skill, having 23% DEF down, easier replacement, and better attack intervals. So, there's nothing wrong using both or when you have Schwarz but do not have Pozy, you got yourself covered albeit "harder" to use, feel free to use both everyone.
