Pre Arrival Room & Contents Fire Brick New Jersey 3/27/24 

No injuries reported, everyone got out. Even with 2 cats!

@@jerseyshorefireresponse cool, and thanks for letting me know

Apparently two other cats didn’t make it out, the owner had a huge cage on the lawn with cats so I assumed they all got out.

3rd comment and a keyboard commander to boot

@@peterarvanitis6497Thirty years experience.

Ventilation needs to be coordinated with suppression. But these guys never do that anyways.

@@bobbys1984No leadership Chiefs inside packed up. Nobody in control on the outside.

yeah them not venting for that long was whack, but the white hats Most likely were BC's.

You don’t Scott up until you need to.. clearly not a FF. (This isn’t a defense of these guys)

Thank you!

Great video buddy

Thanks again!

Or, much easier, move the obstruction out of the way lol

That was done keep watching…

They never say

@@athena6451I don’t always have that info right away. Most likely oven fire .

@@jerseyshorefireresponsepeople keep being mean to me and what should I do 😢😮😮😮😢😢🎉❤❤🎉😢😮😮😮😮😢🎉🎉

You weren’t there, do be so quick to make assumptions. There is reason why they vented the windows like that. So relax keyboard warrior

Here come the DEFENSIVE firefighters. God forbid you point out something truthful. They have to be right, you have to be wrong (and a 'Keyboard Warrior'). They couldn't just suck at their jobs.

I’m sorry, I didn’t realize I needed to relax. But now that we have that out of the way… You claim there is a reason for breaking the windows out the way they did? What was it?

Generally you’re correct, these guys love breaking window way after the fact where there’s no added affect. However, youre not gonna do positive pressure ventilation in this scenario under any circumstances, maybe hydraulic while they’re doing overhaul, but you would really only need to bust out one window for that.

@@ritirons2726in the report, there was hoarding conditions with 3-4 ft of clutter on division 2, preventing firefighters from opening windows from the inside.

No different just the time the second alarm was called, there was no reported fire or “working fire” then upgraded to second it was straight second alarm from the first dispatch.

Thanks! Is it the choice of the dispatcher to automatically transmit a second alarm? I'm from Germany, things are a bit different yet kinda same here. Greetings!

@@FloRider66 every towns different, there were no fire officials on scene at this time only police so think with the info they had they thought it was appropriate to call the second, a fire official would have most likely done the same time but with a delay until they got on scene.

Why would you perform vertical ventilation at this fire?

@@ritirons2726because vertical ventilation would draw the smoke and heat right out of the building.

It’s a fire on the first floor just inside the front door. What are you possibly venting out of the attic? People on RU-vid are literally mindless drones

@@bobbys1984 Vertical ventilation does not and should not be performed at every fire. The majority of times it has little to no effect on the operation and results in unnecessary property damage. Vertical ventilation should be reserved for single story buildings, fires on the top floor, fires in the cockloft/attic space, and on some occasions in ballon frame style buildings. Those are the fires that vertical ventilation will be beneficial, not a first floor fire in a two or multiple story building. This is the result of members just doing it because “that’s what we’re supposed to do” instead of understanding building construction as well as the correct type ventilation for that particular building.

@@ritirons2726you have no idea what you’re talking about. The Venturi affect pulls the heat and smoke straight out of the entire house if done correctly.

No, your're right

As a Brit, why are you watching jersey shore fire videos? They’re all volunteers down there who don’t know what the hell theyre doing. I recommend watch videos from our city departments.

I like looking at any fire videos, and it is amazing the lack of training that some firefighters go through. We have volunteer firemen in England but they undergo the same training as full time crews. The biggest difference seems to be water, in England they normally have water on the fire within a minute, using the on board water. In the states too much reliance seems to be put on connecting to a hydrant. However I can only form an opinion from what I'm seeing on the video.

⁠I mean there’s a couple things I have to refute here. First, volunteers do get the same initial training that our paid guys get as well. However, this training is a crash course in the NFPA standard and pretty much ends there. When it comes to training, there’s no better training than real life incidents. Theres no adversity with simulation. Second, every department in the US has their own SOGs. Some departments go in forward lay and some go in dry. My department goes forward lay and we’re able to get water on the fire very quickly but we have a lot experience. However, I don’t think it’s incredibly necessary when you’re working in a paid dept. and there are second arriving companies only another minute or two out. In addition, most interior attacks can be held substantially by 500-750 gallons of tank water.

Bro they’re vollies. White hat means nothing other than that’s the guy who shows up to most of the calls and wants to do the most work for free.

There were 3 chiefs on the scene of this fire within the first ten mins, more after that. The one you saw at first was the ops chief and the other was a different district chief, another held command on the A side more FF on the ground working the better. In this case they weren’t needed for chief duty’s so they got to work!

That is done to vacate the toxic and super heated gases that accumulate and then bank down to the floor . Where if this isn’t done . The fire can possibly flash and light the firefighters up like water hitting magniezium . ( which those do not mix well )

There was no reason at all to break the windows at the point during the incident in which they did. Breaking windows is to create immediate ventilation of the fire area to facilitate safer fire attack, increase the chances for locating possible victims, and firefighter egress in the event they need to escape rapidly deteriorating conditions. All of which normally occur early in the incident while the fire is still being brought under control. None of those conditions existed. They could have simply opened the windows and allowed the smoke to ventilate naturally or used them to methodically control positive pressure ventilation. This was nothing more than senseless destruction of property.

@@ritirons2726according to a press release from the town, the house was a hoarder house and 2nd floor windows could not be reached due to 3-4ft of clutter.

@@FuriosoProductions I guess this department does not have any ladders on their trucks.

@@dennishohl1067shit if this department doesn’t have ladders, I’m impressed! Those dudes have a higher jump than NBA players.

Where do you get there’s good training in this video?

I hate to say it, but don't be an armchair quarterback. We have no idea what conditions were upon entry, or at any point through out the video. Obviously Venting is essential and needs to be done hastily, but sometimes, conditions make other approaches better.

@@juancena930 and what would those conditions be?

Yeah, what is it with this town and the abundance of housefires?

@@robsorensen111very very dumb people are allowed to buy homes.

Once they had controlled the fire they started to vent, inside had hoarding conditions.

What does hoarding condition have to do with ventilation? Nothing.

You don’t vent at the beginning, you vent when you have a line in place. But yea these guys are allergic to vertical ventilation.

Please explain how a room and contents fire on the first floor near the main entrance calls for vertical ventilation?

@@hihfty I mean you’re just gonna HIHFTY anyways so it doesn’t matter