Before making dishes, it would be good to extract essential oil from orange peels. I think it would be in such case more economicaly benefitial recycling project, because natural orange essential oil is pretty valuable on the market.
Dude, I think you're on to something! I just looked up tutorials on how to make it, and it seems pretty easy and hands-off. Many people say it just needs orange zest, 80 proof alcohol, a few days to infuse in a jar, and a few more days to let the alcohol evaporate. The challenge then seems like a question of scaling this process up efficiently for a business, rather than just an individual's homestead project.
My God..!! you guys are the real heroes, gurus, etc., no words to call you..! now a days people are hiding their process and recipes. You guys just like that publish this video. I salute you guys..!1 hats off....! please keep up sharing your knowledge and doing great work to humanity. Thank you so much for doing this...!
After watching the series I have a few questions: How much material does a cup or bowl need? How long do they need to dry? How much energy is needed? How long can you store the bowls/cups before they spoil? How much (round about) does such a press cost? In general how viable is it to use it, or is it more an educational tool?
The left over grains from brewing is a better option after heating the alcohol is gone cheap to make and it can be used for live stock feed after your use
I had an idea of making edible spoons from orange peel powder but since orange peel is unpleasantly bitter and darkens after baking, plus mold growth occurs after a few days so that endeavour wasn't successful. Then today I thought how about a bowl (coz we don't have to put it in your mouths unlike spoons) which does not need to be edible but can be biodegradable. So I searched if there was some material on this and I am surprised and proud that this exists. Good job 👏.
Imagine a society using sustainable materials to make automated systems of abundance available for everyone to utilize regardless of class, station, or means. I like the idea of vehicle or robot frames made of biodegradable materials.
My dear friend it is really an amazing thing and I was exploring such technology by improvising the items from natural stuff. But you have given me a big solution for it. Thanks a lot for your nature friendly approach.
From what I heard, you can make glasses to drink water with these materials, but when you put water in those glasses, isn't there a danger that the organoleptic properties will be modified? Wouldn't it be necessary to add a dividing layer (I don't know what material or components) between the drink or food and the plate?
I think bioplastics, with proper recycling and disposal once "beyond recycling", are way more viable and effective. This method utilized energy in, and made a single use product. Even "single use" plastics can be reused, these however would become damp or moldy i would assume after a use or two. Also this adds aditional transit of materials (ie waste to bowl making site, then to composting/anerobic digestion site, thus requiring more labor (loading/unloading, etc) and potentially energy than some sort of Source Seperated Organics System (or no-trip with an onsite compost pile/digester). Thus i think this fails in a "better than plastic" application.
H o w e v e r I think this could be used for intresting culinary use cases (maybe even waffle bowls...), and having an Open Source Machine for that is great. Also it may be able to produce "Engineered Wood Products" such as fiberboard or "Biomass Briquettes" (or other products such as small firestarters for use with other fuel such as charcoal) for fuel usage
The whole point is to explore better alternatives to the environment. We create enough vegetable and fruit waste to have this be an alternative to single use items. Perhaps with more industrial equipment this process could be made more efficient. The idea is to move away from any plastic at all.
Claro, eso lo sabemos, por eso nadie produce bioplastico o plásticos 100% biodegradables. Por qué es más difícil mantenerlos, pero si al consumidor no le importará eso, las empresas no tendrían opción más que fabricar lo que se consume, es más sobre conciencia ambiental de la humanidad
I think you can scale this up by using a machine similar to popped corn chips. You may pelletize first the peels or other fiber and starch sources in a high compression single screw extruder then make a 'melt' out of those pellets in a high-temp and pressure moulding machine to make the bowls. Then further lower the moisture to a safe zone with a conveyor oven. Coffee grounds may also be a good material. Declaring edible is harder than doing biodegradable. Please don't stop
Help! my girlfriend started watching Dave Hakkens videos and now she can only get off when i talk to her in a Dootch accent! im afraid shes going to ask me to shave the top of my head next!
Am I right in thinking that what they do results in things we buy in stores which have a label saying "100% recycled materials" ? I see that One Army does not reply to our comments and questions, so maybe someone who has commented will read my question and be able to answer. Thanks!
How much pressure was used for the orange peel? I'm assuming the jack used was 15 tonne automatic or something of the like, but how much was the actual applied pressure?
I'm really interested in this guys! If my goal is only to make objects out of fruit peels and coffee do I still need this same machine or could I have a less powerful/smaller one? Thanks!
You do amazing work, bravo ! ;) But i'm always a bit skeptical about all those new startup products... For me the real problem is not really the material, wether plastic or bio degradable. The real problem is the use itself, and especially one-time use. That is what is really unstustainable !
Is it advisable to melt the plastic inside the oven of the gas stove? I want to do a test with a metal mold and countermold of 24 "x 7" approx, place the plastic and put it in the oven of the gas stove. Do you think it is possible like this? Or would there be some complication due to the gases that the plastic can emanate?
sir please clarify , 1. can we use for hot items like cofee, tea , soup ? 2. will it taste like orange while having my tea ? 3. is that only one time use and throw ? if not , 4. In how many days I can use it ? 5. what if I eat in that bowl without knowing that fungus was formed on it ? please sir kindly answer the above questions....🙏
Little bit more clear data and information would help in these precious plastic videos. Pros and cons, and in this case data about the usability of the product , how it holds up when it gets wet, is it an option for fastfood / to go containers, heat and pressure aplied etc. sadly these videos only show posibilitys from a teaching and comunity based viewpoint but not on an aplicable side. Shows the world some ideas but not an indept experimentation and in a useful way.
Nice concept but not really a viable solution because it can’t be washed nor reused. It would be more practical to simply recycle plastic and make a bowl you can use time after time. Also... it used a lot of energy to produce (heating to dry, blending, pressing, heating again). And it’s not edible unless you have the habit of eating dry and hard old orange peels. It is food safe at the most!
Mucha energía? Antes de decir eso realizaste un análisis económico y energético comparando el bowl que el hace con un plástico desechable?? O solo lo dices por qué viste que encendió un compresor? La energía que utiliza es la necesaria, toda elaboración de productos tiene un impacto ecológico, la diferencia es la intensidad de ese impacto con respecto a otro producto
Para que quieres que sea comestible? Deberías de ordenar tus ideas en tu cabeza, no le estás dando sentido de coherencia, solo buscas problemas, acaso así es tu vida?
Aren't they trying to make more food packaging like this? I suppose it depends if it can be done on an industrial scale or not otherwise the cost of the product goes up.
It doesn't seem very hygienic, i think I'll stick with normal tableware, I don't use plastic tableware either by the way. Don't know why I'm commenting really, the makers on this thread don't answer any questions anyway!
It's a really cool idea, but it has a few major challenges. How cheap must each bowl be by the time it reaches the end user (restaurants or homes)? $1? $1.50? You can try to lower the price of each by achieving economy of scale, but no one knows if there's enough demand, so the pricing would start somewhat high unless an investor decides to take in all the risks from the start. How interested can even the most supportive consumers be if each bowl adds another $5 to their lunch? If moisture is an issue, how are restaurants expected to store these bowls for long term use? Not everyone is willing to afford a dehydrator just for bowls. And if they don't want to pay the upkeep to store he bowls, they have to factor perishable bowls into their operation. This just seems like a huge hassle even from a layperson's perspective. Do these bowls affect the flavor of their content? If so, chefs in moderately to upscale restaurants (the most likely starting point for novelties like these given the financial barrier of entry) will have to compromise their vision to accommodate for the bowl. Some will definitely try, and it's anyone's guess how well their experiments will turn out. Most will likely pass up given this and other challenges. To be clear, I found my way to this video because I'm really interested in the idea. It just looks like there are some technical and financial obstacles that need to be overcome before this bowl can think to go mainstream.
