Precision Rifle Pistol Grip | Long-Range Rifle Shooting with Ryan Cleckner

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Former Army Ranger sniper team leader Ryan Cleckner demonstrates a modified grip on an AR-10 modern sporting rifle pistol grip that can increase accuracy for long-range precision shooting. #AR10 #ModernSportingRifle #LetsGoShooting #MSR #NSSF #LongRange
Ryan Cleckner is a best-selling author of the Long Range Shooting Handbook: A Beginners Guide to Precision Rifle Shooting [nssf.it/clecknerbook] and is currently a practicing firearms attorney [rocketffl.com/]. Subscribe to Ryan's channel: nssf.it/cleckner-YT
Filmed at Texas Triggers [www.texastriggers.com/] courtesy of Colby Donaldson.
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@Warthog71 5 лет назад

I agree. I’ve switched to a trigger finger thumb rest when bench shooting allowing the rifle to recoil naturally. My groups have tightened across the board with every caliber. Good stuff!

@ashy1423 5 лет назад

Appreciate all your videos. I’ve learned so much. Thanks for your time and efforts educating us. Ash🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

@Liberty4Ever 5 лет назад

Thank you for these short and consise information packed videos. I appreciate the quality of the information as well as you respecting the viewer's time. No filler is a good thing. Someone who knows what they're doing can usually communicate very efficiently.

@daniellavoie8379 4 года назад

Thanks Ryan, I learned something new watching your video. I look forward to trying it out on my next range visit. Good video!

@spectrumman3457 5 лет назад

Well done and explained. Kudos

@TheRunAndGun10 5 лет назад

Excellent! I had identified this as a problem and considered solutions for a while now. I never would have thought about such a simple work around. Thanks!!

@bjornegan6421 4 года назад

you're creating a work around for poor trigger control and fundamentals. that's the justification behind this technique even though the origins have nothing to do with that.

@highgatehandyman6479 Год назад

Accuracy is determined by how your right hand behaves. The rifle behaves in several ways because of your right hand. Torque is a key factor. The trigger finger must move. Managing this movement is key lest the gun move

@travishightower1201 4 года назад

Hey, Travis here. I’m a big fan of this Long Range Shooting playlist on the channel! It’s really inspiring me to finally getting into some precision shooting. Like Ryan, I don’t like the idea of running into the issue of inconsistent terrain reactions that a bipod may have while resting on different surfaces. Is there anyway you guys could shoot a video on how Ryan packs and sets up his front shooting pack for resting and shooting off of while also being a practical supply bag? Thanks for any time or response in advance!

@unclephill4764 5 лет назад

Tell that to the NY gun law makers. They made me have a more accurate rifle because they are scared of pistol grips.

@michaelwestcott3004 5 лет назад

thanks that's a great tip

@Tillerman4 7 месяцев назад

This actually worked me extremely well…!!

@goosecouple Год назад

Ryan, but marksmen at the AMU say the grip should be as firm as a firm handshake. They teach it at the CMP's M16 SAFS class. These AMU folks are the best of the best service rifle marksmen at Camp Perry. Please explain why the conflicting information.

@geoblueGR 5 лет назад

Hi Ryan ...we would like to see a video for bullpup sniper rifles... are they practical? Easy to shoot....??? Just make a video and tell us your opinion....Pleeeeeaaaase!

@Oldhogleg 5 лет назад

Lol, I actually shoot wors doing that because I've been shooting CMP HIGHPOWER matches since the 90's and have trained myself not to pull the grip while pulling the trigger because CMP matches don't allow any artificial support in all three field positions other than the sling.

@blindfredy6128 3 года назад

That was interesting.

@shinoasada2216 4 года назад

I consider pistol grip more comfortable than anything else.

@failure2flinch876 5 лет назад

i stopped wrapping my thumb over the top on a regular stock years ago

@nono559 4 года назад

So whether the rifle has a pistol grip or not, rearward pressure of the butt in to the shoulder is a must correct?

@katesvd4227 5 лет назад

Does it makes sense for all rifles for a long range shooting/sniping or only for heavy ones? Let's say I want to hit a coin from 50m with AR-15.

@buster5643 3 года назад

I dont move my thumb, ive simply never applied pressure with my thumb. Basically just letting it rest naturally while all the pressure is on my ring finger only. Everything else is just there. Will this impart any unwanted issues?

@syncprism6283 3 года назад

I see some sniper rifles feature a verticle grip (not a foregrip, just grip but no pitch angle compared to pistol grip) will that be better?

@thawndoo 5 лет назад

I remember watching a video on Marine snipers, and when they shoot an M40, they don't even hold onto the grip at all. They hold onto the bolt knob and have a nearly straight finger across the trigger.

@bjornegan6421 4 года назад

you'd be surprised how many scout snipers can't even score expert on yearly rifle qualification. look at the guys on the shooting teams, they dont do the trendy thumb thing. look at Olympians, they dont either. this all started with a HUGE misunderstanding of why the thumb stays outside the pistol grip. it was to run the bolt faster, as you were alluding to. however, then guys started doing it on ar's and civilians and special ops guys started picking it up and then instructors in the sniper community started teaching it cause others taught it and THEN they came up for a reason why, but in reality that reason is just a backwards justification. and now everyone thinks it actually helps. it doesn't. it's opposite of one of the most basic things they teach in sniper schools, that most shots aren't from prone. so how are you supposed to free recoil (the thumb thing is free recoiling) when you can't be in prone. more control of the gun is always a good thing unless you have TERRIBLE fundamentals. but this is the way of the military, finding stupid trendy cool things to do where half the guys teach it as if it's important and the rest see some special ops guy do it and they imitate it to look cool. this is why pistol portions of sniper competitions are hilariously bad, they are training guys to throw trigger control out the window and focus on this new technique to make up for it.

@AllThingsZz 3 года назад

Bjorn Egan I couldn’t agree more, I’m creating a class over shooting fundamentals, and too this day this is in our sniper school pub. Literally says “the thumb should not be wrapped around the pistol grip” because it causes the shooter to twist his wrist which can be uncomfortable, it causes aiming errors, and makes it difficult to manipulate the safety.... non of these things are true.

@bjornegan6421 3 года назад

@@AllThingsZz yeah, it's incredible what ends up as doctrine.

@terenzan1 2 года назад

Utilizing this technique do you prefer the pistol grip or traditional grip for precision shooting

@davidlomm4424 4 года назад

Let me tell you why I'm here lol I have several Air Rifles, some with traditional stock grips & some with Pistol grip,... I have MUCH better accuracy with the standard grip of a much cheaper rifle than I do the pistol grip so I came to YT for info to see if it's me or the rifle ;) I'm about to buy another but am trying to choose between 2 of same brand, earlier model is traditional & new model is pistol grip (plus magazine instead of single shot) but new model is 30% more money & the grip is more important to me than the multi shot mag.

@depthcharge6215 5 лет назад

Actually learned this by accident when i was trying to diagnose those flyers with bipod lol.

@calisti555 5 лет назад

That’s exactly how I have my hand on my Scar 17 with a 20” 6.5 Creedmore 5R barrel. I use the Talon safety as a thumb rest. The Scar has ambi safeties and I placed the longer lever on the right side. The Talon has a wider foot print and the 45 degree throw is the perfect angle to rest my thumb on. Im also using the Hogue deluxe ergo grip with the bottom shelf which sandwiches my hand to lock my grip in. For my bolt gun I’m using the MPA competition chassis which comes with their vertical grip that has an integrated thumb shelf on the right side that transitions into the chassis. Btw my cousin is also an Army Ranger Sniper vet from Desert Storm and is known in the elite circle in the SF community.

@gmaillastname8591 5 лет назад

Why would ever exert pressure with your firing hand in the prone or supported position to being with?

@BlazinTigger 5 лет назад

So a California regulation grip is more accurate?

@Oldhogleg 5 лет назад

Oh great going, now they'll ban that too calling it the "sniper grip"!

@hernanviera1 5 лет назад

assault grip!!!

@tetlow2 5 лет назад

@@Oldhogleg man it's terrible but you're dead on right about that.

@mariopolito1318 4 года назад

Ryan, you are a beautiful teacher, can i ask you only one thing? Please, speak more slowly.... Forgive me, i'm from Italy... Thanks and carry on your fantastic work!! Best regards!!

@badcompany089 5 лет назад

Would this technique still work on a heavy caliber rifle like the Bushmaster BA50?

@gununiversity 5 лет назад

James S. It sure will! Years ago, when I was the sniper expert on Top Shot, I taught this to the shooters for the Barrett 50 - if you watch that episode, notice that George tries it out with good results!

@badcompany089 5 лет назад

@@gununiversity Thank you for the quick reply back. I'll definitely check that episode out and start using this technique myself.

@chanc9737 2 года назад

Can I just have some friends that shoot guns and know stuff?

@innonativeoutdoors 5 лет назад

I see no point in this technique with a semi-auto precision rifle. The pistol grip is there for fast follow up shots in a target rich environment. If you go back to the basic fundamentals, when you're in the prone position, you shouldn't even be forcing the the reticle to the target in the first place. You need to adjust your body for proper support of the rifle. The only reticle movement you should see is the up and down when you are breathing. Frank from Sniper's Hide has video of proper grip and trigger control, also reasons why doesn't recommend the grip illustrated here. But if it works for you, continue to use it.