So, in theory, if you got a ride-on plow, and hooked it up to the back, you could have a "horse team" pull along 🤣 I'm sorry that idea is so ridiculous I love it
What are you all talking about. This thing is saying give me a screaming Jimmy, hahaha😜 (for all you city folk.. it is a Detroit diesel, and if you to City. Then it is basically a super loud diesel engine that rich folks hate because they can't hear the Lamborghinis and Ferrari cars
Thank you for the inspiration! I have been studying your engineering for awhile and decided to collect all the parts for my own project. Mine is a McCormick Deering international harvester model 10-20 probably from the late 1920's maybe 1930's. I just completed my first test drive tonight and am happy with the results. I used a Briggs and Stratton 8hp from the 1980's. The engine needs a rebuild, so will be disassembling and doing that work soon.
At a tractor show I saw an Avery with 6 5 horse Briggs all belted to a common shaft in front of the original clutch and flywheel. It sounded great and pulled the sled very well in it's weight class. 6 x 212 would be 1272 ccs. No balancing, no timing needed. He put 3 engines on one side and 3 on the other. It was very cool. An Avery is about the size of a farmall C.
We always welded up a cracked block. Most of our tractors were old and a few of them had froze and had busted blocks some time in the past. But the predator motor is a good option. I like it 👍 we had several of those Farmall H's.
It is great how people are using these 212 engines. They are cheap and get the job done when used. I love watching videos like this. Now i have to watch the golf cart to see how it was done. Thanks again
Great video. I put a predator 212 on a Husky rear tine tiller I had constant issues with for 15 yrs. Bolted right up, starts up on second pull. That predator engine is like find'n money. Again, great video.
It still wouldn't be very comparable due to the different torque curves. For PTO or starting a plow from stopped you want to be able to let the clutch out without motor at a near idle, where as the Kohler would need to be revved out to keep from stalling.
The industrial 5.9 cummins in the Timberjack skidders I used to run put out almost 50,000 lbs of torque at the end of a 6' tall tire, in first gear! Gearing.....
LOL, that pretty funny, I'll bet you didn't expect to see it turning the tires on a 3000 lb. machine, it surprised me a little too! Thanks for the comment.
Vanguard engines are good engines. Replaced one in my John Deere lawn tractor. Only tick about the engine when pulling under strain and the governor and then relieve that strain. The governor will kick back and the engine can backfire. Yes this was at Full Throttle. And with the dollars blade I had to re sharpen. Looks like I forgot they needed it when I put it away this winter. The vanguards got replaced by a newer model. But they have injured with no major silly mistakes of manufacturing like plastic gears.
I am sitting here ,,thinking ,,wow ,,wow ,,how great it is to see some one build something from nothing ,,speed isn't important ,,you have made my day ,,
Love these old Farmalls. I have unstuck 2 engines. One was a H and the other a M. They were both my grandads and I wished to God I would have kept atleast one of them.
This one will, we are going to do it one day when my buddies truck is loaded and at home, here lately when it's home, it's empty. I would like to pull it down the driveway with a 50,000 pound coil on the flatbed.
I love that however the torque converter would still be good because if you have a heavy load on the back of the tractor that little centrifugal clutch might get smoked the Torque converter will start off on a lower gear and then it will automatically shift up, much more low-end torque to takeoff, May even let you decrease the diameter of that sprocket connected to the tractors transmission.
That is a good point, but they are still sold out all over, I even found what appeared to be a good link, but once I clicked buy, it said unavailable. I put a cheap one on the golf cart I converted, it has worked great, just can't find at this e.
Very cool thats a great application for it. with that gear ratio you are making as much or more power than the original engine and nice job with the installation. Like your golf cart a lovejoy coupling makes it a whole lot easier to mate shafts together without lathe work I just had to do that on a project i couldnt get the wobble out
Nicely done and nicely shown. I have a 1936 Farmall F-12 that has a Model A Ford engine in it. It has the original tractor transmission plus the Ford transmission in it so it has a lot of gears! I'm going to see if I can get the Ford engine to run again (it crapped out on me and few years ago) and if I can't get it to run I may give this a try. I've been wondering how to do it and this did a good job of showing how.
Forget bigger motors, build the heck out of that 212 and grab an electric start/stop kit to run up top and that thing will be doing burnouts! Cool idea, can’t believe it. I’ve seen it done in a truck, the magic is in that trans.
@@ChrisfromKeyfarm do you possibly want to sell or restore that farmall H i have a buddy that has a engine for the tractor with a farmall M governor on the engine to give it a little more power but i am looking for a farmall H
@@kristafoster7190 I'm afraid not, I have big plans for this tractor, and it was my grandad's. An H not running should be easy to find, and cheap, they made a bunch of them
Since I have owed a number of Farmall Hs over the years a 212 is not that far off from the original HP, Which if I recall was only about 26HP... The only thing I would have done is installed a clutch so that it worked the same way. The upgrade to a 670 would be just about the same HP rating as original. More than likely would have better power than the old unit anyways. Might even be more fuel savings over time. Repower is the way to go with a lot of older units. Nice work anyways!
Love it! It's great to see other "old stuff" guys and RU-vid creators from Alabama! This state is a great place to live and make wonderful projects. That Predator engine looks similar to an old-style 5 HP Briggs engine. I had a go cart with a 5 HP Briggs when I was a kid. Ran that all over the countryside and had a whole lot of adventures in it. I'm going to look through your videos and see if you did one about the failure analysis on the original engine, as I am an engine guy and would find that interesting. I used to work for AgChem Co. and work on TerraGator and RoGator machines all over Alabama, so probably have been in your area before!
Awesome it moves! Suggest going to a 70 tooth sprocket should help with the revs on the motor. Right now you probably hard on the governor just by listening to it when you said you had it in 4th gear. You have inspired me since I need a tractor for our property, my little John Deere 12hp RX 63 doesn't cut it.
Going to harbor freight Tuesday, just to get one.... Been wanting one for an old tiller but had heard they weren't wort it... I'm convinced! Thanks Brother in Christ!
I have 4 of these engines. Generator is awesome, had it a little over a year. Water pump had it a year, put a 212 in an electric golf cart had it a year,and this one a couple months, it was on my tiller first, my harbor freight doesn't have any. Thanks brother.
Great project. I would try to build a more quiet exhaust. You defintively have the room. And with that speed you will be listening to it for a while, when moving around
I think we are similar in age. My skills are in coding and electronics (working on microcontroller code this evening) and I have so little knowledge in engines and the mechanics that accompany them but I really enjoyed this video and have subsequently subscribed to hopefully learn. Great video! God bless!
I am using a Predator 212 to power my full scale WWI tank. It only needs a little bit over idle to move it. The tracks freewheel over bogies with a hidden tire underneath providing the push. I will be doing a video on the whole build as soon as it is 100% complete.
This is NOT a criticism, just an engineering observation. The mounting holes for the bearing / driven sprocket carriers would have been far better to have been located on the top of the frame rails. Here is why... as the holes exist now (on the bottom of the frame rails) they are piercing the "tension" side of the member. This makes them far more susceptible to fatigue cracking. IF (that is a huge IF) one were to later decide to restore this 'old iron' to the original type of engine (or something even larger) these holes could become a liability for strength. Holes on the top side of the frame (while still weakening the frame some) would remain in compression and be far less likely to crack due to fatigue. Probably the optimum construction would have been to not drill ANY new holes and instead constructed the brackets to bolt on to the outer sides of the frames with holes and slots already provided. As I said in the beginning, this is NOT a criticism, just observation and hopefully a small learning point for any young budding engineering students of SOHK (School Of Hard Knocks)! Good video! Keep up the interesting projects! Ken
Would you believe I knew that, however in this application I felt it did not matter, but one thing about channel iron, if it ever needed to strengthened at least it would be easy to do.
The older farmall engines are beastly. if you can get them. i got a farmall 450 the block and head are immaculate, no cracks or repair welds. it has the big back c281 engine in it and could pull a 4 bottom plow if i had on in the toughest of grounds.
I had to buy a used predator to find one. Had one on order for weeks, not updates, found one "used" never fired locally. Been great :) Theyre not my favorite motors, but they are cheap and they work
@@ChrisfromKeyfarm do you watch robot cantina.. i think you two could share some ideas and inspire each other.. i look forward to seeing your future projects and best luck to you
Love the videos! I want to do this to a 1979 datsun b210. One question- why not connect the motor shaft directly to the transmission shaft via the couplers? Do the gear teeth/size ratios have affect speed/and/or torque? Just really curious to kn ow before ordering parts
First and most importantly you need a way to clutch it The original motor the clutch is attached to the flywheel and of course that is gone second reason with these low power engines you need to multiply torque to get them to do what they need to do. Check out my other videos where I have put these engines in small pickups and small cars as well as big pickups
I'm trying to figure out why it took me 2 years to catch up with you this is interesting stuff I love it keep up well keep it up 2 years and after you know what I mean
