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Predator 3500 Inverter Generator Remote/Wireless Starting Installed! All Mysteries Revealed! 

Shananigans
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Install a remote start on a predator 3500 inverter series generator.this is the final product with a demo on how to start and run it as well as a brief overview of how I wired up the generator starting system..
12V 4CH Channel 433MHz Wireless RF Remote Control Relay Switch With 2 Receiver
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Actuator (2 wires)
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@jdfowler92003
@jdfowler92003 4 года назад
Hello, I'm Jack Fowler, I'm glad you found my original design with the automictic choke actuator worked for you. Would have been nice for a shout out to me. I'm the original person who showed this on You Tube. No big deal, but this is my design. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-gDQ9fmKSbVY.html
@shananigans1179
@shananigans1179 4 года назад
Thanks for reaching out. I looked at several videos and just tried to condense all the information into a quick little video.
@tki4019tki
@tki4019tki Год назад
Thank you for the video. I order parts today and will be installing on our Predator 8750 gen. You may have but didn't show inline fuses to the relay and actuator. I'll add 2 fuses. I don't want to burn down my generator with these inexpensive parts. I'm going to see if I can wire the 4th relay to the throttle ECS. I'd like to start with the ECS off, then turn it on. Like someone said, adding an on/off switch for the relays/actuator as well. Thanks again for you videos.
@shananigans1179
@shananigans1179 Год назад
Good idea on the fuses. On the fourth relay, the eco throttle is a standard on off switch. With the way I had the board set up it would not allow you to do some of the relays to be momentary on and some of them to be momentary off and then others to be latching. So with the board I had you would have to essentially hold the button down in order for it to be in the on or off position.
@rodx5571
@rodx5571 2 года назад
i took an early 80's model onan and did something similar with relays and a 12$ amazon winch controller a few years ago.. in was on, out was off. it was carbureted and the choke was automatic. works good to this day.
@shananigans1179
@shananigans1179 2 года назад
Love it!! That's amazing.
@lovingrvlife5512
@lovingrvlife5512 4 года назад
Very nice job! I am familiar with the remote control unit as I used it for remote lighting on my RVs. The only addition I am going to make to your system on my unit is a kill switch for the remote circuit board and the actuator so they are not activated and do not draw any power during storage. Thanks for making the video! Now if I can just make an automatic Fuel tank filler! ;)
@shananigans1179
@shananigans1179 4 года назад
Right. That was an after thought. :) Thanks for mentioning it. It will drain the battery when not ran for a while.
@juandeaux4115
@juandeaux4115 2 года назад
Seems to me you could eliminate one channel by hooking the choke to the starter? Being they are both actuated at the same time.
@shananigans1179
@shananigans1179 2 года назад
I thought about that but sometimes when it's cold outside you want the choke on longer. That's why I did it that way.
@eveRide
@eveRide 5 лет назад
Woooooohoooooo!
@shananigans1179
@shananigans1179 Год назад
WoooooooHoooooo indeed
@grumpy1962R
@grumpy1962R 2 года назад
The biggest mystery for me is , it seems as though each channel/relay has 3 terminals. I can’t see how you have the receiver wired closely
@shananigans1179
@shananigans1179 2 года назад
You're right there are three terminals. It's been a while since I've looked at one of those boards. If memory serves me correctly it seems like there will be one terminal that will connect to the other ones either in the on or off position. So say if channel One is off a and b terminal will be connected and then when you press the button for channel One it will disconnect a and b and connect a and c. Hope that helps.
@KenMrKLC
@KenMrKLC 3 года назад
You can eliminate the B choke button by connecting the choke actuators power to the starter solenoid wire that feeds the motor power after the start solenoid is triggered. You wouldn't be able to hold the choke longer and release the starter button like you can with A and B but I doubt you would ever need to do that unless really really cold. And in that case maybe it stalls and you need to restart another time. The choke from Predator slowly shuts off within a couple seconds as is
@shananigans1179
@shananigans1179 3 года назад
Thanks for commenting. I wondered how that would work with just the one button just so it's a more simple install.
@KenMrKLC
@KenMrKLC 3 года назад
Shananigans that’s what I’m doing. Works great.... only downside would be if you shut it off and restart quickly you are choking it when you don’t need to but it starts fine regardless.
@RVFreeDa
@RVFreeDa 4 года назад
lol You could make a fortune installing these in Quartzsite AZ
@shananigans1179
@shananigans1179 4 года назад
Thanks. It is still working. We will see if it outlasts the generator. :)
@shananigans1179
@shananigans1179 4 года назад
It's only 5 hours away. :)
@windman1961
@windman1961 4 года назад
As I understand you didn't cut any wire, just tap on yhem for channel 1 and 3. So I guess you can still operate the generator from the original controls, unless the choke can't be operated with the actuator installed???
@shananigans1179
@shananigans1179 4 года назад
You are correct. I did not cut any wires. The choke also functions as it should. So you can start it just like normal or you can use the buttons wirelessly to start it. Super simple build I think most anybody could do it on a Saturday afternoon.
@doubledogdrone
@doubledogdrone 4 года назад
Ive got the exact same 4 Channel Relay and have connected it to my Predator 3500 Generator with Actuator. I had to place the jumper on the relay in the position where it supplies momentary connection if the associated button is pressed. I can only activate one relay at a time for some reason. So when I press A and B together both relays are not energized and operable. In the video you show the ability to activate both at the same time. I cannot figure this out. So I cannot have the actuator activate the choke AND have the starter engaged. So it does not allow start unless I press A first and have the starter turning and then very quickly Release A and push B to open the Choke. This does not work every time as the engine needs to be spinning with residual inertia and then the choke open at the end of the stroke. It takes many times of trying again and again. Any ideas?
@shananigans1179
@shananigans1179 4 года назад
What about hooking the choke and the start to the same relay and also leaving the choke hooked up separately. That way when it's cranking the choke activates, but if it starts to die on you you can hit the choke again without the starter.
@shananigans1179
@shananigans1179 4 года назад
I do remember having to do something with a jumper though, so thanks for the reminder. :)
@doubledogdrone
@doubledogdrone 4 года назад
@@shananigans1179 Well I thought of that and what occurred to me is that when the Generator is running and hot there is no need for the choke as it wont start well with the choke engaged. Can you press both buttons (A&B ) and have them both engaged and active ? I think I have the same model Wireless Relay and I cannot.
@doubledogdrone
@doubledogdrone 4 года назад
@@shananigans1179 Yeah the jumper is just for the setting that allows Latched or Momentary for all of the relays.
@shananigans1179
@shananigans1179 4 года назад
Yes. I can hold both buttons down and it will engage both. That's crazy. Maybe you have a defective one?
@fizzzle
@fizzzle 3 года назад
Thanks for the upload @shenanigans one thing i can't figure out is what you did with the negative wires? Did you only splice the no load wires into the the starter and kill switch?
@shananigans1179
@shananigans1179 3 года назад
I had to run a ground wire up to the module and a power wire up to the module. I tied into the kill switch and ran it through the solenoid on the board. The starter wire was also tied into the wires from the starter switch not directly to the starter. So yes, the no load wires are what I tied into.:)
@fizzzle
@fizzzle 3 года назад
@@shananigans1179 I appreciate the reply!
@shananigans1179
@shananigans1179 3 года назад
Yeah. I just happen to be checking message. :)
@edepaz8036
@edepaz8036 4 года назад
Do you leave the knob on start or run ?
@shananigans1179
@shananigans1179 4 года назад
Just the run position. I use the controller to activate the choke and starter.
@edepaz8036
@edepaz8036 4 года назад
For some reason my actuator won't activate
@shananigans1179
@shananigans1179 4 года назад
Hope you got this figured out. Did you try just going straight to the battery? Did it work then?
@josediazsierra7401
@josediazsierra7401 4 года назад
Mi generador no genera es inverter 3500 que puede ser
@shananigans1179
@shananigans1179 4 года назад
If it's not producing power it could be a bunch of different things. If it's not starting it could be something else. So will it start and run and not put out power? Or will it not start all together?
@edepaz8036
@edepaz8036 4 года назад
Can you draw out a diagram for me my actuator isn't activating
@shananigans1179
@shananigans1179 4 года назад
I installed this on a buddies generator so I'm not next to it to look at wiring again. I might be able to get to it tomorrow or late tonight. The thing to remember is that the controller is just simply connecting the power through it like a switch. So you can check the actuator by hooking it up straight to the battery. If it works there then just simply wire it up with the switch in line now.
@edepaz8036
@edepaz8036 4 года назад
Yeah I think something might be wrong with my actuator because when I tap the lead to the battery it doesn't activate
@shananigans1179
@shananigans1179 4 года назад
That sounds like the thing is not working right. Did you try swapping the word around? Maybe it's directional? I don't know. :)
@samuelonthewall
@samuelonthewall 3 года назад
Someone needs to create a video on how to extend the range of the wireless remote.
@shananigans1179
@shananigans1179 2 года назад
They make better wireless remotes with an antenna and everything that work from about 1000 feet away. InduSKY DC 12V 433Mhz 4CH Channel Wireless Relay Receiver Remote Control Switch with Long Range Remote Control Transmitter and DC Female to Screw Connector www.amazon.com/dp/B087246S2W/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_5T33P9S2W093THG5M81X?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
@grumpy1962R
@grumpy1962R 2 года назад
And now with internet you can start them from anywhere
@shananigans1179
@shananigans1179 2 года назад
Would you really want to have to set up a wireless network in the middle of nowhere so you could start your generator though. :-)
@grumpy1962R
@grumpy1962R 2 года назад
Well if you are off grid it would be nice to know if your generator is firing up when it’s supposed to and if it’s not, it would be quite nice to be able to start it before you damage thousands of dollars in batteries???
@duridersa
@duridersa 4 года назад
Thanks for upload, soo Do you need to leave the big button on the genii in start or run position when using the remote? Some guys leave it in the start mode didn't know thats bad
@shananigans1179
@shananigans1179 4 года назад
If I remember right the start position activates the choke. I could be wrobg. I installed this on a buddies generator so I'm not looking at it every day. :)
@duridersa
@duridersa 4 года назад
@@shananigans1179 copy thank u
@misternelson6521
@misternelson6521 4 года назад
I've watched some other videos with wires galore. Your setup appears simple and clean. One problem I had is when I push the start button and the generator starts the starter remains energized and I have to hit the button a second time to shut off the starter. (generator remains on) Any idea of what I may have done incorrectly?
@shananigans1179
@shananigans1179 4 года назад
It sounds like your relay is "latching". Look like the paperwork that came with your relay board and see if you can move a jumper around to change things up. Good luck. :)
@misternelson6521
@misternelson6521 4 года назад
@@shananigans1179Funning you mentioned latching because after I had problems with starter remaining powered I shout it down and just to be sure I didn't screw up any of the original controls I tried to start it and it wouldn't start. Turns out I had to hit the cut off button a second time as well. Forgot all about that jumper. Thx a bunch.
@windman1961
@windman1961 4 года назад
@@shananigans1179 I just order the remote but not received yet, can you show me where is that jumper?
@anthonyyorlano4436
@anthonyyorlano4436 4 года назад
Shananigans where are you located? Can I pay you to do this to my predator 3500?
@windman1961
@windman1961 4 года назад
All set up..was very easy. I added a switch to prevent voltage going to the mother board to save the battery on long term storage.
@ShaunCox_0
@ShaunCox_0 5 лет назад
I don't think any mysteries are revealed. Can you tear it all apart, video everything you did, and then upload a step by step video. I don't have a Predator Generator either, so can you do it on an EU2000? My EU2000i doesn't have an electric start either, so make a video about that as well. Or, just come out and install it for me.
@shananigans1179
@shananigans1179 5 лет назад
on all the other videos I watched I could not see exactly how and where they hook the choke up. It wasn't until reading through a bunch of comments that I found the information and pieced it together.
@user-gi3xj8nz3s
@user-gi3xj8nz3s 3 года назад
Yeah that would be nice thing to do for us newbies
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