Really good information. One thought. I noticed you weren't wearing a personal floatation device (PFD). Wearing a vest type float can make it a little easier to get back in the kayak because the vest holds you are held a little higher in the water when you are starting to climb back into the kayak. I may be the only person in Hawaii who wears a PFD. I almost drowned when my catamaran capsized and in the process of getting it upright in waves, I got too worn out to tread water effectively. One near-death experience like that will convince you to wear some type of PFD, especially when out solo on the ocean. I watched your video on how to be safe when fishing off of cliffs. You are very safety conscious. My 2 cents.
Thanks Jeff your quite observant, have to admit with all the excitement I left it at home and was very disappointed because I wanted to try it out. I got the gas operated one and wanted to see how well it works but hey can save it for another video. But 100 percent agree always wear your vest. I'll take your advice to heart and wear it always . Thank you Jeff I really appreciate your valuable 2 cents.
After spending many years flipping small racing sailboats, turning turtle all the way over, the dagger board was a great way to right the boat back over. Your right about the prop being a great leverage point. I am picking up a Predator PDL and looking forward to both fresh and salt water. Thank you for the video and stay safe out there!
Thanks for sharing the video. I just took delivery of my PDL but have not got a chance to get it in the water. I was hoping to do similar video but yours is very well done. I look forward to see more.
My friend while I very much appreciated the idea of showing us how you would deal with the situation if the yak flips but since you are in water where you can stand then all the tests do not really compare to the real thing which is when you are in water over your head I would love it if you made another vid, in water which is over your head, that would be the real deal, the real test thsnk you
Great video. I see some negative comment's about not being in deeper water for the flip. Actually good for ANYONE who have a kayak for the first time to try. That way you can recover "Safely" and get use to it before heading out in to deeper water. Mahalo.......
Hey mate! How did you find the C-Tug Sandtrax with the Predator? I'm thinking about either buying that trolley or another one with inflatable wheels for my predator.
Thanks for taking the trouble, very informative and useful test. It would be good to have seen a bit more where you're in deeper water and have zero purchase off the bottom, that's what most of us would want to know, how hard it would be to get back onboard or un-flip this model in deep water. Obviously wave action would make a big difference to flipping and retrieving, but this give us a good indication. The prop is great for leverage and a strong paddle tag line is a good idea. I am seriously thinking of getting this model so thanks again for the test.
Hello, Nice video,do you still have the PDL, I have a 2020 , any flipping problems in the high seas? they say the seat is to high. whats better outback or Predator?
got to test it in deeper water where you can`t touch the floor and with a vest on and all gear loaded,poles and everything,see what you loose when you flip over , that will completely give you a different scenario where cold water and fatigue will beat the hell out of you since you loose your floor leverage and reach, just swimming around will tire you while all the gear is also either loose or tangle around you ,in choppy water?...some people even carry anchors that will fall over too and weight the kayak to one side...too many variables !... just my 2 cents after seeing people flip by accident and any kayak is easy to flip when they are empty!
Great vid!! can't wait to see more. You are the first one to actually show the PDL in flippin action, I really appreciate that, been waiting to pull the trigger on one but kinda costly and no dealers around here to try one out, you did it for me haha
Glad to help out. I know where your coming from. That's why I decided to make that vid to make it easier for people starting out on a kayak. I'm just happy that people can find my videos helpful. Take care hope you get your dream kayak and thanks for watching and yes more vids to come.
thanks again , pulled the trigger and will have mine next week, now just have to build a cart and trailer, not much for store bought stuff but enjoy makin stuff , can't wait for the wrist band PFD , my right side don't work so good so I tend to swim in circles, oh well!!
How do you have that cooler set up on there. I have a PDL as well and I have a much smaller cooler and can't fit the scupper cart? That's a nice little set up you've got in the back and I'd like something like that as the fish I target won't fit in the cooler I have now. Thanks.
I actually had to build a platform that would be even with the storage area that's behind the seat to allow a longer cooler to fit. By raising the platform about 6 inches or so I was able to fit a wider cooler because the top of the kayak is wider than the bottom area. I made it out of wood and painted it so the water wouldn't be absorbed in the wood.
The cooler may have kept it from turning over fully, but if it had ice and other things inside and in deeper waters, that would make it REALLY difficult to flip it back.
Good question and yes I did launch at the pali hope I didn't embarrassed myself lol. I checked out the fish bag for the front of the kayak but realized the bag was pretty small. You could probably fit two good size fish in the bag but not much room. Also I didn't want to climb over the paddle drive to put the fish in especially if its rough. The cooler allows me to reach in the back and grab my drinks and its easier to put the fish in and can hold lots more fish than the bag. I also like the idea I can mount things on the cooler and it makes a great floatation bonus if the kayak flips over. I made it so I could also jettison the cooler if I had to. But I did think about making a lighter option and remove the cooler and put a small cooler or basket with the rod holders on the back and use the fish bag in the front. Great thing about the Predator has lots of room so it gives me the option to try different things. Don't be surprised in the near future you'll see different versions of my kayak set up. The cooler is my heavy duty set up when I'm optimistic I'll catch lots of fish or something really huge lol. Great thing you can design it and keep experimenting as you go, cant guaranty I'll leave the big cooler on.
Brah you gotta check out key west kayak fishing he has a sweet set up for his kayak equipped with ama and outrigger and one 2.5 hp for when you get tired your kayak would be unreal with outrigger and motor
Good vid, I like to know my yak limitations before it flips and also the limitations before my stuff goes in the water which is way before it flips, (always tether everything)
Its actually a cooler that I sprayed with plasti Dip. But of course still testing things out making more adjustments see what works and see what doesn't. Must say though the only thing I like about the cooler is that if you flip over its easy to flip the kayak because the cooler prevents the kayak from flipping over completely. On my trident 11 I have a small cooler on it and when I flipped the kayak in deep water with swells the cooler stopped the kayak from completely rolling over. So I know it works and trust me it made a difference especially if your in deep water and strong currents with big swells. Lakes and ponds no problem you wouldn't need it.
I don't think thats a very good idea submerging the top end of the drive like that. From what I understand the top end is water resist not water proof You might ought to clean and grease
yes totally agree but wanted to show a realistic video. I was figuring in the ocean with waves eventually the kayak will flip over eventually so I wanted to make sure if it did I could flip the kayak over without a problem. So far the drive is working great but I agree have to oil it and grease it up. My next adventure learning how to take it apart and servicing it. I wouldn't recommend submerging the PDL under water but did it for everyone to see so they wouldn't have to. Hope things go well with the drive but time will tell. I'll be a good test to see how well the drive is made crossing fingers.
Great video but if you don't have the drive in place and the paddle lesh brakes doing it that way your skroowd in less you have a life vest on and you get under the boat and push up like hell on one side it'll put back over then just the same as a canoe
If you weren’t as lite as a toothpick maybe you’d know the real possibility of flipping a yak like that. Also grabbing the prop over and over is going to give it some type of bend and that’s not good.
Yes after practicing it in the shallow it worked when I flipped my other kayak in the deep ocean. All that practicing worked I'm glad I had the knowledge to get back on the kayak. Was pretty scary.
One : always wear a PFD ! Two : proper entry is belly in first , butt in chair and legs last ! Three ; prop leverage ok but boat may hit u in head and knock u out Proper technique is to reach under kayak to side handle and push kayak away from u with other hand Making a video and not mention a PFD is absolutely against cost guard mandates
haha this is hilarous... anyone can do it while you're standing up... You're supposed to be able to do it when the water is over your head and you have a life vest on bozo.
Your review of the stability is the worst I have heard. I have heard and witnessed this being one of the most stable kayaks today's market offers. You have to consider the way you have it loaded.
Yes I know. Had a feeling that would be a concern but didnt want to change it since this was my first kayak and my first time taking it out. Also I just started my channel and had know idea if anyone would be intersted in it as well as me learning how to kayak fish. But it seems now that there are people who like it so I'm now concidering creating another channel for kayak fishing here on Maui. But we'll see have to think about it more.
