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Show Summary
In this episode, the hosts discuss the topic of predestination. Greg shares his evolving views on the subject and expresses his disagreement with certain aspects of the Second London Baptist Confession. He believes in individual predestination and emphasizes the role of God's foreknowledge in salvation.
Eric, who holds a more Arminian position, rejects the idea of unconditional individual election and believes that individuals freely choose to believe in Christ. He also argues that continuing as a member of the church is conditional.
The hosts engage in a lively discussion about the nature of predestination and the role of the Holy Spirit in salvation.
The conversation continues to explore the concept of predestination and God's foreknowledge. The speakers discuss whether God chooses individuals before they exist or if he chooses the collective body.
They also touch on the idea of God's active involvement in bringing about his predetermined plan.
The conversation references biblical examples such as Noah and the ark, Pharaoh, and Judas to illustrate different perspectives on predestination. The speakers acknowledge that there are differing presuppositions and interpretations of the texts, but they agree that God is sovereign and actively working to accomplish his purposes.
The conversation explores the concept of predestination and its implications. The speakers discuss whether God predestines individuals or events, and whether predestination includes the belief in God.
They examine various biblical passages, including John 17:12, Acts 4:28, Romans 8:29-30, and Ephesians 1:4-11. The speakers offer different interpretations, with Greg leaning towards the belief that God predestines individuals to believe in Christ, while Eric argues that predestination is about God's foreknowledge and the ultimate destiny of believers.
They also discuss the idea of adoption and its relationship to predestination.
In this final part of the conversation, Greg, Eric, and Joe discuss the idea of the chosen group and whether it can change over time.
Greg argues that the group cannot change, as the names are recorded in heaven and God knows the full number.
Eric believes that the group can change, citing examples from Scripture where people are cut off or grafted into the group.
Joe agrees with Eric and emphasizes the importance of our choices and obedience in determining our place in the group.
They also briefly touch on the concept of the Lamb's Book of Life and the Book of Life.
Timestamps:
00:00:00 - Intro
00:03:10 - Greg's view of predestination
00:10:52 - Eric's view of predestination
00:21:38 - Understanding election and God's foreknowledge
01:26:42 - Understanding predestination
02:07:40 - Can this group of believers change?
02:20:28 - Wrapping up
28 июн 2024
