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Welcome back to Bootleg! On today's daily episode within our annual summer preview series, Brett and E.J. finally parse out the ridiculous battle royale that is the AFC North, and make their picks for Division MVP, Rookies of the Year, and of course...the division winner!
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@ScholarlyHiccup
@ScholarlyHiccup Год назад
The nighttime city skyline in this episode is beautiful. Love that aesthetic. Don’t care if it was intentional. Highly suggest shooting more night vids if possible
@nealaubuchon6265
@nealaubuchon6265 Год назад
I agree, except they need to use dark mode on low power on their laptop screens when filming at night.
@niekvanoosterweyck
@niekvanoosterweyck Год назад
It works also very well with the underdog logo’s yellow neon. And the bootleg logo !
@loganerb3952
@loganerb3952 Год назад
By far the best division in the sport… you could tell me any of the 4 teams won the division and I would go “Ohh okay I could see it, that’s not unrealistic”
@SkyJW15
@SkyJW15 Год назад
It definitely has the potential to be. The biggest question for every team in the division other than the Bengals is the QB play. Watson needs to show last year was an abberation, Pickett needs to show he can be the franchise guy in Pittsburgh, and Lamar just needs to stay healthy. Not saying Lamar is some injury plagued QB who's unreliable, but in a division as competitive as the AFC North, the Ravens need him to play more than the 12 games per season he played the last two years. Definitely guaranteed that there's some degree of mayhem in the AFC North this year.
@loganerb3952
@loganerb3952 Год назад
@@SkyJW15 see the thing is even without those guys playing well every team is talented and well coached enough that they will be at worst around a .500 team… yea the QB is the most important position but all these teams have proven to be atleast middle of the pack with questionable QB play (even the browns when you take into consideration Brisset/Watson last year and baker with a bum shoulder the year before) it’s been the toughest division for about 2-3 years now so I assume the trend will continue You’re right tho there’s always mayhem in the north!!
@SageKStroke52
@SageKStroke52 Год назад
Any team but the Steelers*
@scottybippen
@scottybippen Год назад
@@SkyJW15the most detail I’ve heard in any Lamar criticism. Well said
@jacksonklark6119
@jacksonklark6119 Год назад
By far the best division is a huge exaggeration. The afc East was better last year and made just as many additions.
@ryangellatly8839
@ryangellatly8839 Год назад
Myles Garret disrespect is bananas
@williamheller1362
@williamheller1362 Год назад
Yet you can't even spell his name right
@ShinefortheCam
@ShinefortheCam Год назад
Hes the best Edge in the league! & I'm a Bengals fan
@meechh3782
@meechh3782 Год назад
@@ShinefortheCamur mad tj destroys ur whole team single handed 🤣
@j.r.3945
@j.r.3945 Год назад
“Brought to you by the power of procrastination” is a goated intro line
@Dawg-Bone
@Dawg-Bone Год назад
You know the division’s loaded on offense when the best RB in the league isn’t OPOY for this division
@supergrover1746
@supergrover1746 Год назад
Burrow, Lamar, Pickett, Chubb, Najee, Mixon, Ja'Marr, Tee, Amari Cooper, Diontae, Pickens, OBJ, Zay Flowers, Mark Andrews, Pat Freiermuth, and others. Division is loaded on offense, don't even get me started on defense lmao
@getbrainseeds
@getbrainseeds Год назад
really this season it seems like most of their defenses are loaded too, this is gonna be the best division this year
@natewhalez
@natewhalez Год назад
Loving the file name title
@BootlegFootball
@BootlegFootball Год назад
I have no idea how that happened, the REAL name was there when we hit publish lol
@samsobkov5553
@samsobkov5553 Год назад
@natewhalez How do you see the file name?
@natewhalez
@natewhalez Год назад
@@samsobkov5553 The title of this video was just a file name on release lol -- they have since changed it
@robertrichard-du4pv
@robertrichard-du4pv Год назад
Love the content EJ and Brett. They're the highlight of my summer when it comes to podcasts/videos.
@thguz13
@thguz13 Год назад
Man I just want to say I have absolutely been loving the daily uploads. First discovered Brett over a year ago when he did a mock draft with Bengal. I thought I was a knowledgeable fan, but holy shit have I learned so much watching the content.
@kammfreudenstein9217
@kammfreudenstein9217 Год назад
This whole series of videos is so informative. As a fantasy player it’s hard to learn actual schemes and tendencies of coaches and teams, you hear more of the YPT, RYOE, etc. learning more on the NFL side of things is a great addition to that knowledge, thanks so much!
@danlofqvist557
@danlofqvist557 Год назад
Super Love the Night backround =) thanks 4 awsome content ..GPG
@mrshs4332
@mrshs4332 Год назад
Amazing episode
@komodoensis-rex
@komodoensis-rex Год назад
I think you should do an mean for the divisional power score rather than sum: This divisions mean is 13.75. So a significant bump over an average mean (16). I find this more meaningful and readable than 55, which can only be compared against other sums
@aaronclay4665
@aaronclay4665 Год назад
That's stupid as fuck a sum is better so divisions can't get carried by super strong teams like the cheifes
@blaqbond2162
@blaqbond2162 Год назад
Excellent showcase of the best division in football! I'm excited to watch
@dom19945
@dom19945 Год назад
It’s amazing you guys talked about the AFC North without mentioning Myles Garrett or Nick Chubb once. That’s actually just an impressive feat.
@nickdarr7328
@nickdarr7328 Год назад
When we had the 4 division winners and 2 wild cards it seemed like 3 of the 6 were the AFC north every other year all last decade
@JohnDyse
@JohnDyse Год назад
I don’t know about you guys, but I love the night setting. It looks awesome!!
@BENgalFan1369
@BENgalFan1369 Год назад
YESSS BRETT LESSGO DJ GOT ON THERE. That man is FREAKING INSANE
@felixlara2945
@felixlara2945 Год назад
And interesting stat I wanna see is inside run defense EPA with reader on the field vs reader off the field, maybe that's something you can talk about with Dexter Lawrence or Vita vea
@lukenielsen8331
@lukenielsen8331 Год назад
Look at that view man, good for you Brett
@tysonkauth7232
@tysonkauth7232 Год назад
I think you should have had a bit more focus on how ridiculously good baltimores defense was when Roquan Smith came over. Now that he's going to have a full off-season with the team, hes going to be lights out. With the addition of a healthy David Ojabo, i think they are going to be hard to play against
@ShinefortheCam
@ShinefortheCam Год назад
Ojabo hasn't proven anything we don't know what he's gonna be
@ShinefortheCam
@ShinefortheCam Год назад
Ravens defense will decline. Lost cbs & campbell
@tysonkauth7232
@tysonkauth7232 Год назад
@ShinefortheCam we have a lot of young talent in the pipeline though. I agree, could use one more solid veteran corner, but I think our d line will shine this year. Travis Jones and hopefully healthy Michael pierce will be fine replacements for Campbell. I'm excited for Ojabo. He was a consensus top 15 pick who fell because of injury. I think he's going to be great for us this year
@jayo9889
@jayo9889 Год назад
@@ShinefortheCamlost 1 cb, Peters, and gained 1, Rock Ya-sin. And Campbell is a 37 year old d tackle. We got Pierce back.
@kennydeschenes3390
@kennydeschenes3390 Год назад
Dont sleep on madabuike, he was our best lineman last year.
@lostnemesis
@lostnemesis Год назад
The problem with this division is if all the teams improve it just means that they will beat the crap out of each other more than usual which they normally beat the crap out of each other anyway 😂
@mrshs4332
@mrshs4332 Год назад
EJ and Brett dont miss.. 💯
@bark2650
@bark2650 Год назад
Thank y’all for ur great work! lovin the series as always
@alanjackson396
@alanjackson396 Год назад
This show is "Big Mac Sauce".
@charlesh1735
@charlesh1735 Год назад
I agree the AFC North is the most physical division in all of the NFL. Teams within that division must be a complete team to win that division. You must be able to stop the run,while also being able to put pressure on the opposing QB. You must be able to cover the deep ball,because there is good QB play within the division. On the offensive side you must be able to run the ball,weather plays a big part in this division late in the year. You must have a QB that can throw the ball down the field and stretch the defense as well. Teams within that division must have elite WR’s to be able to win games late down the stretch. If you can win the AFC North Division,you have a team that can win the Super Bowl. That’s how good this division is from top to bottom. I think Orlando Brown Jr was the best FA signing in this division. It makes the Bengals O line even better than what they was last year. We saw how good the Bengals O line was the second half of the season. They played like a top 10 offensive line down the stretch,it started to click once they gelled after the bye week. I actually thought the Bengals would make the Super Bowl again last season until the injuries on the O line piled up late in the season. They lost both starting tackles in Jonah Williams and La’ell Collins. Then they lost their best guard in Alex Cappa. Losing those key players on the O line cost them another Super Bowl appearance. Now that they signed Orlando Brown and have quality depth on the O line,I think the Bengals are primed to make another Super Bowl run this year.
@nengehtardzer2839
@nengehtardzer2839 Год назад
The AFC North is going to be the best division is football in 2023.
@90FirstGenPGT
@90FirstGenPGT Год назад
As a Steelers fan, hayden Hurst, i thought was integral, but under utilized. Seeing him twice, he'd make key plays to move the chains in key situations most of the time the ball came his way. Big and hard to tackle. It surprised me they let him go. He seemed good in general vs the division.
@BENgalFan1369
@BENgalFan1369 Год назад
LESSGO ZAC IS ON THERE TOO! WHO DEYYYYY 🐅🐅🐅🐅
@derekwilliams4996
@derekwilliams4996 Год назад
Man that butcher box advert had me drooling 🤤
@BootlegFootball
@BootlegFootball Год назад
They have great stuff!
@j.r.3945
@j.r.3945 Год назад
The only thing we can predict is that whatever we predict is probably gonna be wrong
@bighentaiguy2585
@bighentaiguy2585 Год назад
We need more cat content. I luv kitty
@rektorik84
@rektorik84 Год назад
Your cat is so cute
@FaceDisabler
@FaceDisabler Год назад
DJ Reader? Does he know who the defensive end is for the Browns? I think that guy is pretty good.
@natej84
@natej84 Год назад
Miles is great true. Reader is also great, best NT in football, now that Vita Vea has aged a lil bit
@t4d0W
@t4d0W Год назад
LOL it didn't stop teams from running at the Browns D-line last season. What good does Garrett do when Jody Woods was working off 3rd and 3? Meanwhile DJ Reader gets the Bengals past early downs to 3rd and long where the defensive coverages start making their money. Plus Reader is a decent interior rusher too.
@aaronclay4665
@aaronclay4665 Год назад
​@@t4d0Wthe browns didn't have any d tackles and miles was getting doubled and triple teamed...... U don't have to be a browns fan if you watch the tape and see what he had to deal with and what he got that year....there's a reason why pff has hi. As one of the top def(he should be number 1)
@nengehtardzer2839
@nengehtardzer2839 Год назад
Thats future panthers defensive lineman DJ Reader
@wesangelle
@wesangelle Год назад
I’m from Louisiana and had no idea what dirty rice was lol apparently it’s just, what we call, rice dressing.
@krisk5585
@krisk5585 Год назад
Joe burrow is 24-17-1. Lamar is 45-16... and we know how good the bengals WR corps are, and how bad lamars has been... and now lamar has weapons? Idk about this
@MultiBluedog123
@MultiBluedog123 Год назад
Burrow has made 2 afc title games and a Super Bowl, Lamar has won 1 wildcard game lol, and was drafted into a way better situation, Joe went first to a horrible team
@smelly6065
@smelly6065 Год назад
​@@MultiBluedog123and has what to show for it? Jim Kelly went to 4 straight SBs...so what's your point.😅
@MultiBluedog123
@MultiBluedog123 Год назад
@@smelly6065 point is burrow is clearly a better qb
@BCFC954
@BCFC954 Год назад
You guys are sleeping on the Ravens Bengals matchups. In the Wild Card round, the Ravens were enforcers, and played a brand of football the Bengals could not match.(With Lamar out). After the game Bengals players were mad about it and even complained about dirty play to the media. In game you saw Chase, Higgins, and Mixon shrink. They were not about that life. Out-gained and outplayed by 121 yards vs the Tyler Huntley, Demarcus Robinson led passing attack. Macdonald schemes up Burrow very well in all 3 matchups: Only 641 yards, 3 TDs, and 1 INT, with a YPA of just 5.9. 8 sacks, 1 fumble lost Allowing just 17, 20, and 17 points (excluding 2 defensive TDs allowed by Brown/Huntley) For some reason Burrow is forced into the quick passing game, and never takes risks downfield. Chase will catch 8 quick passes for 80 yards, and the others are barely involved. You expect drastic improvement in the Ravens offense, yet they were only 1 play away from being 2-1, with Lamar out for 2 of the 3 matchups. While in other loss the Ravens starters sat out and Cincy was a full go. If Lamar is healthy the 2023 Ravens take back the North.
@michaelhession2105
@michaelhession2105 Год назад
And not only that. But the Ravens as a team will be out for blood, especially after all of the comments made by the Bengals this offseason. They've learned nothing from last year, haven't they? Calling Roquan a dirty player, and Marlo soft is not a good sign for JaMarr Chase, isn't it.
@avauntemiller2377
@avauntemiller2377 Год назад
Does Waston really have to play out of his mind for the Browns to make the playoffs? I don't think so, I think the Browns are underrated and if Watson is serviceable they will win 10 games at least
@kiaadams104
@kiaadams104 Год назад
Facts. Watson doesn't need to be a top 5 QB, top 15 and Brownies make playoffs.
@ravensfan2380
@ravensfan2380 Год назад
4th place schedule, good defense, great RB and a QB who still has top 5 talent imo. If the coach doesn’t screw it up, I could see the Browns finishing as high as 2nd in the North and being a problem for anyone in the wildcard round.
@avauntemiller2377
@avauntemiller2377 Год назад
@@ravensfan2380 I'll give you that ravensfan, event though I can't stand y'all 😂
@Mr.Buckett84
@Mr.Buckett84 Год назад
Browns were a top 5 offense with Brissett in the first 1/2 of the 2022 season. Serviceable Watson will be fine if the defense can take a step.
@ravensfan2380
@ravensfan2380 Год назад
@@avauntemiller2377 oh the feeling is mutual. I just like being as unbiased as possible in the off-season because once the season starts I’m saying everybody suck😂😈😈
@user-or5ks6zf3f
@user-or5ks6zf3f Год назад
😂Seriously! Yall overlooking Myles Garrett?
@kayladecant7332
@kayladecant7332 Год назад
Took me until 18:30 or so to notice the kitty cat! 🥰
@bioLarzen
@bioLarzen Год назад
Harbaugh only had losing seasons when his starting QB missed a good chunk of the season. Once Flacco and once Lamar Jackson.
@aaronclay4665
@aaronclay4665 Год назад
And steelers have not had any undet Tomlin...
@bioLarzen
@bioLarzen Год назад
@@aaronclay4665 OK, and? I was not trying to make a point about comparisons here. Just reacted to one of them saying "Harbaugh had some losing seasons".
@yofryman100
@yofryman100 Год назад
We never had a losing season with lamar
@Brahbrahbrahbrahbrahbrah
@Brahbrahbrahbrahbrahbrah Год назад
I love reading comments on videos like this, people are STILL scrambling trying to cope over the Bengals being good 😂
@Sonicxchubs42
@Sonicxchubs42 Год назад
props to the DJ reader shoutout
@Sonicxchubs42
@Sonicxchubs42 Год назад
and zac taylor
@Sonicxchubs42
@Sonicxchubs42 Год назад
also proper analysis of what frustrated us fans
@ikilledsuperman
@ikilledsuperman Год назад
They lost me when they said Sidney Jones as most impactful addition. 😂😂
@bengalbabe
@bengalbabe Год назад
Bengals coming for that THREE-PEAT!
@ravensfan2380
@ravensfan2380 Год назад
They’ll likely finish 3rd
@HD-J.R.
@HD-J.R. Год назад
That's not a good thing if they can't put it all together. Bills in the 90's defined the team as inferior chokers for the next 20 years. Nobody shouts three-peat when they are all losses.
@bengalbabe
@bengalbabe Год назад
@@ravensfan2380 nah…. History suggests otherwise. Lamar has to stay healthy more than 12 games for you to have a slight chance. Get used to being the bridesmaid to us…the perpetual bride. 🤷🏼‍♀️
@litaf4889
@litaf4889 Год назад
​@@bengalbabey'all haven't won shit 😂 y'all can keep winning the division, y'all had your chance at a ring and won't get another chance with burrow for the rest of his career
@blainecords1251
@blainecords1251 Год назад
Y’all sleeping on George Pickens
@t4d0W
@t4d0W Год назад
I stay sleeping because Matt Canada calls the plays. Get him out and Pickens may start seeing better routes his way.
@aaronclay4665
@aaronclay4665 Год назад
Sleeping on ur OC and Kenny pickett.. .
@stephenhicks5012
@stephenhicks5012 Год назад
Love the podcast, love this series but I hate to disagree but the Ravens draft will prove to be the best in the division. Look back at every EDC pick and not only will you find plenty of quality players but not all of them were flashy but they all worked out. And to end with some of the potential that they did with as few of picks they had is the definition of maximizing your picks IMO. I just hope you look back in March and again in 2 years and revisit your opinion of a weak draft.
@julianwahly3372
@julianwahly3372 Год назад
You all just keep sleeping on pickett. Burrow was the only one rated higher than pickett for big time throws in the 2nd half of the season, and it wasnt by much. He wont have the huge numbers because he will probably only throw it around 450 to 500 times not 600 or 700 like these other guys. If his yards per attempt are at 7 then that puts him at 3500 or 3600 yards. Looking at just numers is BS. Steelers want to run the ball. Pickett has already shown he can make throws when he has too as evidenced in the raiders and ravens games in back to back weeks with the playoffs still in sight. Keep sleeping on pickett.
@nickdarr7328
@nickdarr7328 Год назад
Do you think JK dobbins will actually become a legitimate back? He doesn't have to be Chubb or Henry but more like eitenne or the way Pollard should be used. I'd like to see him get 15 to 20 carries which should be half or slightly more of the total carries. Lamar get 8. Then Edwards and hill split the other 15 to 20
@tysonkauth7232
@tysonkauth7232 Год назад
If JK stays healthy, he should have a monster year. His stats have always been among the best in the league when he's on the field, but he's missed over half his games to injury. Him and Gus are 1a and 1b running backs though, and should both see 15 plus carries a game
@TheFactsMob
@TheFactsMob Год назад
Tomlin went 2-6 between and ended up 9-8 with a rookie QB and Harbs gets the nod for going 3-3 without Lamar getting Cancun'd in the wildcard? 😂 Yeah sure.
@mrshs4332
@mrshs4332 Год назад
Power score?
@VictorAntares
@VictorAntares Год назад
cool
@somerandomassmf3684
@somerandomassmf3684 Год назад
im a Ravens fan. I wouldn't even be surprised if 3 teams make the playoffs lol. ppl always say that the AFCN is the "hood" of football and i believe it 😂
@aaronclay4665
@aaronclay4665 Год назад
I'm predicting all 4 teams make the playoffs....with Maybe the steelers missing out at 9 or 10 games won
@SuperEmmanuel619
@SuperEmmanuel619 Год назад
Strong Divi but woo building cinnt son the division
@coreyhorton2078
@coreyhorton2078 Год назад
No mention of Orlando Brown Jr as best FA is pretty surprising
@stephenhicks5012
@stephenhicks5012 Год назад
As a Ravens fan I am gonna have to say Orlando Brown is one of the best RIGHT tackles in the NFL but since he refuses to play anything but Left you will probably be disappointed with him at times. He is just too slow to be an elite LT and be is not the strongest guy for how big he us. He is a nice players but he is an average LT.
@jamesleewiley6905
@jamesleewiley6905 Год назад
I’m sorry but B mores defense have the Bengals number, if Lamar had been there would have been a different out come. Burrow was obviously relieved when there defense scored
@ajrocks44
@ajrocks44 Год назад
Can wait to see Joey Porter Jr get turned around by Zay Flowers over and over again. They will be talking different after this season.
@maddogj4canikon
@maddogj4canikon 7 месяцев назад
Even you could not predict what happened today. 3 Teams in post Season and all 4 … ALL 4 of them above .500. I am curious how the powerranking will look like, but this must show up in the numbers. Steelers was a thin line, but who had thought, Mason would save it? Flaco? Really? Ravens No. 1 this dominant and Lamar throws?!?! So Tomlin 17 … seventeen!!! … seasons non loosing record, looking „normal“? This is not normal!!! This Division lived up to and above all predictions. Sportsman congratulations to all of the teams, even being Steelers Fan, I tip on my hat to all 3 competitors, this season was special and to make it this, you have to have these great organizations within. Competition drives you to your very best, that was AFC north 23 and will stay in history books for a long time. #appreciation to #bengals #ravens #browns and my beloved #steelers.
@ravensfan2380
@ravensfan2380 Год назад
One year doesn’t dictate the next but the Ravens held a lead with under 2min in the 4th quarter in 14 of 17 games played last year. Despite dealing with injuries and backup QB play, the Ravens were literally 1 play away in each game from being a 14-15 win team in 2022. I think everyone would agree that the Ravens improved their roster from last season, if for no other reason than improved health. If they can indeed stay healthy this year it could be scary hours for everyone outside of Baltimore 😈😈😈
@fyukfy2366
@fyukfy2366 Год назад
I could legitimately say the same thing about the Steelers. They were a play away from beating the jets, pats, phins, ravens, and browns and going 14-3. It doesn't matter though because that's not what happene and I recognize where they were also a play away from losing in many games just like the ravens were
@ravensfan2380
@ravensfan2380 Год назад
@@fyukfy2366 I understand what you are saying but it’s not the same. For example in the loss vs the Ravens, the Steelers trailed by 2 possessions with about 3 minutes left to play. After scoring a quick TD with about 2:30 remaining in the game the Ravens got the ball & just ran the clock out. In this example, multiple things would have needed to happen logically for the Steelers to win. 1. Defense gets a stop 2. Offense get into FG range 3. Make the FG. That’s not “a play away” imo. Now you guys made some mistakes throughout the game where you can say that play may or may not have shifted the balance, however I’m talking about literally being a play away. Meaning if the Ravens pick up a 1st down game over. If the defense made a stop on 4th down, game over because they were winning with less than 2:00 and the other team had no shot of winning. The Ravens just needed to finish. Also completely agree, it doesn’t matter, just a interesting storyline from last season.
@stephenhicks5012
@stephenhicks5012 Год назад
Someone should tell Joey Porter Jr is allowed to catch the ball on defense. I don’t think he knows.
@bullyball_timore9297
@bullyball_timore9297 Год назад
The reason you won't see all 4 divisional teams in the playoffs is because they have to play each other. Maybe see 3 of the teams in the playoffs if they all beat up on the other team (browns) because they are the browns.
@huntermorse2568
@huntermorse2568 Год назад
Lael is coming off an acl tear and he probably won’t be back until at least week 6
@treysmith1551
@treysmith1551 Год назад
“Gotta talk about the Browns here at some point.” Nah it’s okay
@brandonwhodeyer8531
@brandonwhodeyer8531 Год назад
I think it was Brett that doesn't know why or how would jonah start at rt. Jonah will probably start. Not a big jonah guy but he's better than people give him credit for and last year he dislocated both his knees and played threw it and before last year he was better than that. Lc probably won't be ready to start the season coming off a acl. Jackson Carmen is another interesting dimension to this as well. Carmen played admirable at lt last year in the playoffs and he looks in really good shape for the first time in his career. I don't know if I could see them not starting jonah at 12.6 mil guaranteed this year, my gut tells me they would trade him before they would do that but if they keep lc and jonah its kinda Goin all in on the line. One thing lc is heavily incentived to play games because he only gets payed if he plays mostly. It's the way his contract is constructed so in theory they could keep both but it would be kinda pricey. Just my thoughts and info. Great info for u guys as well.
@jerryobrien1088
@jerryobrien1088 Год назад
the best of seasons in the afc north. ravens and steelers I do not see any team winning out in the division. the browns have added good players but always find was to lose
@ravensfan2380
@ravensfan2380 Год назад
The last 2 years in the North saw the Ravens, Steelers and Browns play with a ton of injuries and uncertainty at the QB position, while the Bengals were basically the picture of good health and stability. Despite this fact, the Bengals struggled to win the North each year. Now that Ravens, Browns and Steelers seem completely healthy and stable at the QB position it’ll be interesting to see just how well the Bengals stack up in this division.
@michaelhession2105
@michaelhession2105 Год назад
The first year they definitely got lucky, especially with the Ravens' injury situation, and the Steelers trotting out 39-year-old Big Ben. (Plus the Browns being the Browns) Last year, they did survive the NFL's toughest schedule while being short-handed for much of the 2nd Half I'll give them that. This time the Bungles are attempting to do what no AFC North team has ever done. Win 3 straight division titles. Not even the Steelers or Ravens could accomplish that feat. And I bet you those two will be out for blood.
@ravensfan2380
@ravensfan2380 Год назад
⁠@@michaelhession2105 you and I have very different definitions of ‘tough’ and ‘short handed’. They started 2-3 after 5 games. 8 of their final 12 games were against teams with a losing records. The 4 games vs winning teams were Ten(lost 7 straight to end the season), KC(legit), Buf(game cancelled 1st quarter) and Bal(3rd string QB and resting starters). So they only played 1 legit team on 12 games. What’s tough about that? As for short-handed, they didn’t have a single starter miss a game vs a winning team over their final 8 games. I’m not taking anything away from the Bengals but they’ve been very fortunate but to their credit they’ve made the most of it.
@nudle7377
@nudle7377 Год назад
@@ravensfan2380​⁠the Bengals had games without their WR1, WR2, WR3, RB1, TE1, TE2 missed the whole season, 3 linemen got injured, their best edge rusher broke his wrist and missed some time, edge 2 missed a few games, CB1 was out for over half of the season, CB2 missed half the season, their NT (top 3 in the league) missed like 5 games, so over half of their starters missed a significant amount of time and you say they weren’t short handed? They would’ve won 13 games if the Bills game didn’t get canceled and you say they struggled to win the division? If they win 13 games, another team has to win 14 games to win the division which is going to be tough for any of the teams in the division to do. I get you’re a Ravens fan and you’re biased but at least try to be objective when you’re trying to debate something like this.
@adamletschin7759
@adamletschin7759 Год назад
Plus if the Ravens had Lamar in any of those final 2 games last year they win.
@michaelhession2105
@michaelhession2105 Год назад
@@ravensfan2380 At the time, it was considered the toughest schedule. But you're right, it didn't turn out that way long term. I think this time around, just like the 2009 Steelers, the 2013 Ravens, the 2018 Steelers, and the 2020 Ravens, Cincy will learn the hard way that there is no such thing as a 3 peat champion in the AFC North. I feel like either Baltimore or Pittsburgh will knock them off. Cleveland I have no faith in them, not after labeling themselves offseason champions every year.
@josh_richards
@josh_richards Год назад
Kitty cat ❤
@aaroncarranza1161
@aaroncarranza1161 Год назад
confused about choosing dj Reeder when roquan is right there and he's probably top 15 defensive player caliber than dj
@felixlara2945
@felixlara2945 Год назад
Between Porter Surtain and Winfield who's more likely to surpass their father's legacy, I guess you can throw in Asante Samuel too but he isn't on pace to at this point I hope he breaks out this year tho
@williamheller1362
@williamheller1362 Год назад
Surtain has already shown all pro level capabilities so I'd go with him
@felixlara2945
@felixlara2945 Год назад
@@williamheller1362 so has Winfield, they are equally good at their respective positions, also I'm gonna say I think the bucs put more pressure on Winfield
@ChefBuck90
@ChefBuck90 Год назад
Let's be real.. it's three brothers and the stepchild (the brownies)
@jeremyj5498
@jeremyj5498 Год назад
I struggle with the Steelers. Most Steelers fans hate Matt Canada and without an elite offensive weapon for Kenny Pickett to rely on don't see how this team is going to keep up in a loaded AFC conference.
@toddster2721
@toddster2721 Год назад
Yet you believe in the browns? Watson’s going continue to suck ass. And the rest are going to under perform to their true talent. Has happened every year since baker’s sophomore year, and didn’t really improve. Steelers are definitely uninspiring, but they had capital and got better players than they had last year at 9-8 (in the just as loaded afc).
@jeremyj5498
@jeremyj5498 Год назад
​@@toddster2721who said anything about the Browns? All I'm saying is if the Steelers can't figure out how to get the most out of Pickett it's going to be a tough road.
@t4d0W
@t4d0W Год назад
I mean Canada certainly shows his flaws. Plus what is the worth of getting a talent like Tee Higgins for Pickett when your OC can't scheme him open? If you get a better QB then your shitty OCs problem will show further just as Joe Lombardi was for Justin Herbert.
@Vinteroffer
@Vinteroffer Год назад
Not hard to keep up when other teams can't get going. Nearly half their games last year the defense held teams under 20 points. That unit has been improved over the off-season. They don't have an elite 1 at WR but when Allen Robinson is projected as your 4th or 5th option in the passing game it's a solid unit.
@nickulrich2772
@nickulrich2772 Год назад
Jamarr Chase is a middle-class man's Justin Jefferson.
@terme-nator_
@terme-nator_ Год назад
*better
@litaf4889
@litaf4889 Год назад
W, chase is overrated
@midori6756
@midori6756 Год назад
Ratbirds passing game…😆😂🤣😅😂
@Pariahwulfen
@Pariahwulfen Год назад
Of course this division is like four brothers, three teams have claims to the legacy of Paul Brown, then the fourth is a regional rival, with whom familiarity has bred contempt. Put another way, this division is literally a single two team rivalry that has somehow spread to four teams via mitosis.
@terme-nator_
@terme-nator_ Год назад
I disagree Brett Joes accuracy is a difference maker
@Envoy_Intuition
@Envoy_Intuition Год назад
~vibes~
@Ben-lp6bv
@Ben-lp6bv Год назад
wait isnt there another dude opposite Za'Darius Smith on the browns thats pretty impactful? a future hall of famer type? maybe a name worth mentioning at some point? idk maybe im just schizophrenic
@eriklarson9875
@eriklarson9875 Год назад
This makes my head spin so much my helmet just started flying around all crazy.
@berniemccluskey8186
@berniemccluskey8186 Год назад
wait till the north gets a load of the steelers this division is in for a very very rude awakening bring on the pain
@Frostypower
@Frostypower Год назад
Elijah Moore as the best non-draft player addition in the whole division is certainly a take
@kiaadams104
@kiaadams104 Год назад
Easily Moore. Especially considering how cheap he is plus the upside. I would say OBJ but he is old and veryyyy expensive
@litaf4889
@litaf4889 Год назад
​@@kiaadams104Moore hasn't done shit. Over hyped, and Watson will still suck
@aaronclay4665
@aaronclay4665 Год назад
​@@kiaadams104and two acl surgery...
@J-K-A
@J-K-A Год назад
There is a chance that Wagner taking control of the logistics hub that this is phase 1 of a soon to come more serious plan. Take the hub, supply the remaining troops and get them on Wagner side. Then you make more threats
@BnBsportschannel
@BnBsportschannel Год назад
Cleveland bouta put cinci in a pack 😮‍💨week 1 remember this
@dudewithaniphone9885
@dudewithaniphone9885 Год назад
Nah
@StudentOfLife365
@StudentOfLife365 Год назад
I can't wait for the Ravens to spread everyone's eyes wide open this season!!! Ppl been sleeping on us due to injuries and always forget how we led the CONFERENCE each year before Lamar went down!!
@ShinefortheCam
@ShinefortheCam Год назад
& never won anything even with a fully healthy team lol😅
@StudentOfLife365
@StudentOfLife365 Год назад
@ShinefortheCam When were we fully healthy.??
@smelly6065
@smelly6065 Год назад
​@@ShinefortheCam2 SB titles...say again...😅
@fourthdownback6035
@fourthdownback6035 Год назад
I’d love the Steelers to beat the Bengals in the AFC Championship to go to the Super Bowl. We all know the Bengals are just gonna choke anyway.
@SteelersNationAustralia
@SteelersNationAustralia Год назад
Facts
@adamletschin7759
@adamletschin7759 Год назад
Ravens are winning this division. Burrow had a total of 3 td"s in 3 games vs the Ravens last year. Let's not forget the only meeting they had with Lamar the Ravens won and both games when Huntley played the Ravens almost won. The Ravens defense gave the Bengals fits all year and I expect that to continue..
@ShinefortheCam
@ShinefortheCam Год назад
Boy shut up. Bengals were never fully healthy in any of the rat birds games either. Bengals were missing Reader & tee Higgins first game. Awuzie, & 3 starters on the offensive line in the next 2! & we still won!
@ShinefortheCam
@ShinefortheCam Год назад
Burrow is just a much better QB than Lamar & the others!
@adamletschin7759
@adamletschin7759 Год назад
@@ShinefortheCam Lol!!! Your going to try and compare health when the Lamar wasn't playing?? 😆
@adamletschin7759
@adamletschin7759 Год назад
@@ShinefortheCam Week 2 is coming fast. Hope you're ready for the smoke 😆
@excaliburofthelevant5750
@excaliburofthelevant5750 Год назад
When Lamar plays, the Bengals can’t beat the Ravens.
@edog4153
@edog4153 Год назад
But the Bengals have beaten the Ravens when Lamar plays
@kiaadams104
@kiaadams104 Год назад
Ravens will regress under Todd monken. Calling it now. His play designs were ass when he was in cleveland. Man is a fraud
@StudentOfLife365
@StudentOfLife365 Год назад
FACTS!!!!
@excaliburofthelevant5750
@excaliburofthelevant5750 Год назад
@@edog4153 Lamar is 6-2 vs Bengals
@edog4153
@edog4153 Год назад
@@excaliburofthelevant5750 but only 2-1 against Burrow
@chubbschubb4089
@chubbschubb4089 Год назад
Didn’t watch yet but Ik Texans fan Brett is gonna shit on Watson
@midori6756
@midori6756 Год назад
He did…
@chubbschubb4089
@chubbschubb4089 Год назад
@@midori6756 so funny to me he sees Lamar as a top 5 Qb, but hates on Deshaun. Deshauns last full season he led the league in passing yards, highest completion % in nfl history, 2nd highest QBR in history, 2nd highest deep passer rating (so he wasn’t dinking and dunking for that completion %), 33 TDs to only 7 picks and another 400 rushing yds on top of that. That szn was more recent than Lamar’s mvp szn yet Lamar will b top 5 and Deshaun is washed at 27 yrs old? His bias and hate bc he’s a Texans fan shows every time he talks ab Deshaun now vs years ago when he did nothing but praise him as top 3.
@ral3514
@ral3514 Год назад
If the team I liked picked up Watson, I would quit rooting for them
@jacksonjosher
@jacksonjosher Год назад
So the ravens are my favorite team but the ravens is all on how good lamer is and how healthy they are, the bangles don’t have one good safety and almost lose to us but Tyler went highly instead of low with half our roster out so idk if they are better then us and we beat them when both teams where healthy, Steelers I think are over hype party town rn but look at the teams they best and how they won they arnt as good as people think to me but I can see what they are doing but oc will kill there whole season, browns might have one of the best rosters in all of football it’s just hard to say Watson is going to be able to carry them but they have a run game and a really good D so I like that but it’s just can they come together and really work idk but good video boys love to see someone giving love to Harbaugh
@IncogNegroGaming
@IncogNegroGaming Год назад
How come no one ever talks about Burrows grandpa Simpson knees? Acting like he wouldn't have been out if he'd taken the same hit as Lamar WHICH was due to the worst block I've ever seen by Josh Oliver. That hit would have taken down any qb in the league but Lamar is injury prone right lol
@jacksonklark6119
@jacksonklark6119 Год назад
A decent chance the raven win it if lamar hadn't gotten hurt these last 2 years they probably would have tbh
@StudentOfLife365
@StudentOfLife365 Год назад
Definitely would've!! We was leading the entire conference before he went down both years!!
@ravensfan2380
@ravensfan2380 Год назад
Had a 2 game lead in 2021 with 5 games left and a 1.5 game lead with 6 games left. Definitely had a great shot at winning the Division.
@jacksonklark6119
@jacksonklark6119 Год назад
@@ravensfan2380 1.5?
@ravensfan2380
@ravensfan2380 Год назад
@@jacksonklark6119 Yup, if i remember correctly the Ravens were 7-3 and the Bengals were 6-4 before LJ8 got hurt which is a full game lead and the head to head win in Week 5 gave the Ravens a game and a half(1.5) lead in the division.
@jacksonklark6119
@jacksonklark6119 Год назад
@ravensfan2380 Oh, thank you
@TylerLovato
@TylerLovato Год назад
NFC south is always last bro. I get it we trash but cmon
@smelly6065
@smelly6065 Год назад
You guys diffently buzzing off your drinks. The only reason the Bengals have won the AFC North was due to Lamar's injuries. No injuries and the Raven are the North Champs...they've led the Conference and the Division the past two years before Lamar's injuries. The Bengals are default champs...😂😂😂
@DeathM0th
@DeathM0th Год назад
It’s cool keep praising players on every team other than the Ravens it’s fine
@aaronclay4665
@aaronclay4665 Год назад
I mean the only pos the ravens are better than anyone in the division is MAYBE QB and LB with roquan.....I don't think it's disrespect a great teamm, but rb? Chubb, dT? Reader DE garret. Wr ? CHASE. OLINE? browns best online in division DB? Pock from browns and bengals... It is what it is not to say Dobbins is not great if he is healthy, he is but he ain't chubb. Soon and so on
@litaf4889
@litaf4889 Год назад
​@@aaronclay4665ravens easily have better secondary players 😂 Humphrey is the best CB in the AFC north, and Marcus Williams was playing better than minkah before he got hurt
@nickdarr7328
@nickdarr7328 Год назад
I've lived all my 35 years in Toledo Ohio. I grew up a 3rd generation lions fan but being in Ohio have always really enjoyed the AFC north in general and especially the Bengals and ravens. I was the kid who wanted Michigan state or Penn State in the big 10 just to be an asshole to all the OSU and Michigan fans. That university of Toledo win over Michigan was one of the really important sports moments in my life. I liked the browns the least because they were so goddamn boring. At least the lions would suck in entertaining ways. So when people wanted art model dead and then were legitimately happy when he died 15 years later it wasn't the best look. Just like the Packers and cowboys Ohio is full of Steelers fans. And they are far too often an aggressive bad natured bunch. I loved the way the Bengals and ravens ran their organizations. I understand that the ravens team was originally the browns but the new coach (forget his name but was later announcer) really made it work. I love how those organizations give their GM and head coach plenty of time to implement their philosophy. I love owners being level headed. The AFC north is just the most equal division at the moment
@terrancehall9762
@terrancehall9762 Год назад
Ravens win Super Bowl
@loganskinner4156
@loganskinner4156 Год назад
Calm down bud😂
@terrancehall9762
@terrancehall9762 Год назад
@@loganskinner4156 it is happening
@kiaadams104
@kiaadams104 Год назад
​@@terrancehall9762with Todd monken calling plays? No way
@terrancehall9762
@terrancehall9762 Год назад
@kiaadams104 yes. He is a great oc
@kiaadams104
@kiaadams104 Год назад
@@terrancehall9762 bahahaha. Todd monken is ass. With those crazy long developing plays. That's why he only lasted a season in cleveland
@mylesjaedin1154
@mylesjaedin1154 Год назад
People are going to be upset when the Browns win the north
@anthonysclafani3963
@anthonysclafani3963 Год назад
That would be incredibly unlikely
@Mr.Buckett84
@Mr.Buckett84 Год назад
​@@anthonysclafani3963 Who's Koolaid you drinking?
@anthonysclafani3963
@anthonysclafani3963 Год назад
@@Mr.Buckett84 Browns said the same shit last year and finished with a losing record. They've also never won the division ever. It's not that they're truly bad, they're just not on par with Bengals or Ravens. I don't see the Bengals losing the division. You're drinking kool aid if you think the Browns are beating the Bengals for the division.
@Mr.Buckett84
@Mr.Buckett84 Год назад
​@@anthonysclafani3963 I never said the Brown's would win the division. Any one in the north could win the division. It is the one place in the AFC everyone cannibalizes each other. The fact you see a clear class in the North makes no sense. Didn't Cincy lose to Turbisky last year. 😂
@cordariusjohnson2601
@cordariusjohnson2601 Год назад
It’s them or the ravens
@terrancehall9762
@terrancehall9762 Год назад
Lamar mvp. I agree Brett
@charlesh1735
@charlesh1735 Год назад
My predictions for the AFC North is. Bengals 13-4 Steelers 11-6 Ravens 10-7 Browns 8-9
@Alphadawg59SWFL
@Alphadawg59SWFL Год назад
Wrong CLE 12-5 Balt 11-6 CIN 11-6 Pitt 9-8
@PayTheBillz
@PayTheBillz Год назад
Ravens win the North
@Yallcheatin
@Yallcheatin Год назад
I think the ravens beat up the afc north this year. They’re defensive unit is only getting stronger. Bengals struggled with us in every game and lost the only one Lamar played. Pickett isn’t as ready as Colin cowherd thinks. And the browns gonna brown until they prove otherwise.
@ShinefortheCam
@ShinefortheCam Год назад
It's a matchups! Steelers actually owned Lamar when they played him! Browns are going to be tough because they have a very good team! Bengals are the best team in the division easily! & went to back to back afc championships! Something Lamar hasn't ever done & won't do!
@SageKStroke52
@SageKStroke52 Год назад
Elijah Moore and Zadarius Smith over Orlando Brown on a super cheap deal 😂
@xThaFayzee
@xThaFayzee Год назад
I don’t know where all of that comes from, Orlando Brown can’t stop speedrushers to save his life. He’s good, but not Elite as a LT.
@aaronclay4665
@aaronclay4665 Год назад
​@@xThaFayzeeand miles garret is a great speed rusher so is smith...
@SageKStroke52
@SageKStroke52 Год назад
Bengals Browns (if Watson bounces back, they have a better roster than the Ravens) Ravens Steelers (they suck ass)
@terrancehall9762
@terrancehall9762 Год назад
No they don't. Ravens win division
@omarg2079
@omarg2079 Год назад
What's wrong with the Steelers? They seem to be pretty good everywhere except for maybe QB. If Pickett is even marginally better this year, the Steelers are easily a wildcard team.
@jacksonklark6119
@jacksonklark6119 Год назад
​@@omarg2079qb oline corner
@SageKStroke52
@SageKStroke52 Год назад
​@omarg2079 QB, CB room, offensive line, off-ball LB room is a disaster. With Kenny at the helm they have no shot to beat teams with Burrow, Lamar, and year 2 DeShaun Watson
@omarg2079
@omarg2079 Год назад
​@@jacksonklark6119O-line has greatly improved between drafting Broderick Jones and signing Isaac Seumalo, instantly replacing our weakest links on the O-line (Kevin Dotson and Dan Moore). Same thing with their cornerback room, with Patrick Peterson and Joey Porter Jr. being improvements over James Pierre and Arthur Maulet. Both their starters and their depth in both positions have improved significantly over the past few months. Really linebacker might be their biggest non-QB concern, given the fact that 80% of the inside linebacker room are newcomers to the team.
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