Predicting the Next Three 'New Light' Changes in Jehovah's Witnesses! 

Thank you! It is surreal to finally celebrate a birthday

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@StanMNdirt Robert Morrison?

@@adamantiumbullet9215 those who know, know. ;)

@@StanMNdirt You and I would have a lot to talk about, my friend. Everything you discussed is familiar to me.

Oh yes, the good old Aid Book. We all tried to navigate that thing and come up with answers. I've never heard anyone try to explain 1914 with any confidence. Most JWs can't begin to explain it.

@@survivingparadisepodcast Plus, Ray Franz was the person who authored the section of the _Aid_ book about the Gentile Times. When he researched information for that section is when he learned Jerusalem was not destroyed in 607 BCE, which made the entire 607-1914 narrative null and void. Of course, WT told him to finish the article anyway, despite the truth he'd learned, and keep WT's false doctrine alive.

LOL, and their ATM numbers, and ...and....

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They sure did, it's possible!

Ha, ha! This 'Eric' quote was used in a Dutch television program exposing the witnesses with a lot of humor. They even had a real life Sparlock🤣 Arjan Lubach didn't think either that this was a quote from a six year old!

i m wondering if joachimgoethe is a math lover from germany? anyway so do I, I love math and logics ans spent my life teaching it, and evEntually it was the lack of logic in the fundamEntalist bible theOlogy of Jws witnesses which made me leave

We were the same kid! I still find myself doing it!!

Wow, was it really??? how random! @@EL-IZ-At-BETH-sarim

Thank you, I had more, but was already running long!!

So does this mean now Jehovah is accepting Yakuzas as converts?😂😂😂

That cartoon is so disturbing! It truly destroys children ...I despise that thing

Thank you for being here!

LOL, excellent summary!!

Thank you!!

Thank you!!

BS, hey just don't want to admit they have been wrong for eons and depriving people of living normal lives.

So easy to see coming

Same!

Then Christmas !

It's just too easy!

Thank you!!

You're no longer a rebel! LOL!

can you imagine a well built woman wearing slacks,what are they thinking.even if a well built woman wears a dress you can tell , some women can,t help how they are built.somebody is getting confused

My son who never got baptised and got me out is a tattoo artist 1st thing I did half an arm so far. I have 3 in and I have gone back in as I couldn’t take being shunned by them it’s kinda fun being the fly on the wall watching the reaction to my Tatts and with all the changes. It all still makes me angry but and my jaw drops at the manipulation that goes on.

Oh yes, I know several sisters who were hiding them! LOL! Ridiculous....and the older generation JWs will struggle with that one...

That anger is real for many of us@@graciepimo3087

Very true!!!

Very good point!

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Well done!!

inquiring minds want to know.

LOL, LOL all time post! I can't stop laughing

Damn, this comment needs a pin. Comment of the video 😂😂

I had a friend, that as an adult, told me his mother, also a JW, would still call him and wish him a happy birthday. I was very surprised by that at the time. Now, I have an immense amount of respect for that mother.

I knew of a small handful that did it under cover

@@survivingparadisepodcast correct, as there's nothing wrong with rejoicing for one's or a loved one's birth... It'll be underwhelming to many when they flip the doctrine. Thanks, Stacey!❤️👍

LOL, you don't want to offend the angels

Agree....they're setting the stage

You're not far off in that speculation. I've personally been around most of the current members of the GB and they are not the sharpest tool in the shed. They're average at best. The real influence behind the GB are a couple tiers down. Some Helpers and heads of departments in conjunction with some external entities that manage the finances, legal and real estate interests are the real movers and shakers. They may have some input on matters but GB is just the figure head that makes the pronouncements.

@@quackdracular7610 I refuse to believe that at the top of this real estate corp there aren't some really sharp individuals. Individuals that know all the nonsensical old guard rules and regs are killing cash flow. It's not Sanderson, Lett, Herd, Losch, Splain, and their pals. Most of these buffoons have never even earned a paycheck let alone ran an empire. To me these guys are like the Monarchy of England. Figure heads, with no real authority. I would like more on your take. Thanks

From what I've been told over the years, WT, at least the original Pennsylvania Corporation, is not run by JWs. It's run by businessmen. I think that's who gives the frontmen, the GB, their marching orders. By the time any changes get to the GB, it's a done deal. Those nine clowns aren't deciding on or running anything.

FANTASTIC point Ookla....there are another set of 'minds' behind all of this....I believe they're working with a PR firm as well

Excellent points!@@quackdracular7610

Exactly! A mess for them now and they're scrambling to figure out what to do

Right?? Celebrate the baby's......uh.....birth??

@@survivingparadisepodcast, The Bible tells us we should be sad when a baby joins earth and rejoice when it returns home. The JW's Cult is so messed up in its teachings. So many lies and untruths.

It's very possible!!

WOW, what are the chances!! I love it, great minds think alike!

I completely agree! It's ridiculous!

It's been there all along....and YES, all of the above....see a past episode on everything you mentioned! :)

Days of the week, month names, pagan. Weddings, pagan. A lot of people don’t know this, graduation cap and gowns come from the Catholic Church and other early Protestant churches, JWs don’t want to associate with Christendom yet have no idea that they do just that with graduations and so many other things. My JW mother in law said they don’t say bless you when I said it to her because of pagan origins. She knows it’s changed to just out of politeness but the pagan roots can’t be ignored. I told her, you know people including you, cover their mouths out of politeness and that’s pagan as well. It’s so an evil spirit doesn’t go inside you. Also, that mermaid costume you bought your granddaughter, pagan, mermaids are literally demons in pagan cultures. She didn’t know what to say. As long as the governing body doesn’t say anything then it’s fine. Can’t stand the hypocrisy and cherry-picking.

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It's easy to see, isn't it? It's coming!

They've mastered that 'skill' haven't they?

I think Birthdays are next up as well!

I'm not sure about that. The verse, in its entirety, reads: "And upon his outer garment, even upon his thigh, he has a name written, King of kings and Lord of lords." (NW 1984 edition) The word picture attributed to John begins with verse 11. Concerning Christ, we read: "And I saw the heavens opened, and, look! a white horse. And the one seated upon it is called Faithful and True, and he judges and carries on war in righteousness." (NW 1984 edition) Then, in verses 12 and 13, we read: "His eyes are a fiery flame, and upon his head are many diadems. He has a name written that no one knows but he himself, and he is arrayed with a outer garment sprinkled with blood, and the name he is called is The Word of God."-NW 1984 edition. The name, "King of kings and Lord of lords", in verse 16, is written on his outer garment, which, when he is seated upon his horse, as when 'carrying on war in righteousness', could appear as though to be written upon his thigh, and which outer garment is said in verse 13 to be "sprinkled with blood". At the same time, the "name...no one knows but he himself", in verse 12, is also said to be "written". I highly doubt that either of these "names" refer to tattoos. Besides, the Society claims that Christ was resurrected with a spiritual body, not a physical body. If Christ existed in the first place, and if the Society's contention could be verified, that would seem to make even one bodily marking impossible. As such, the passage of Revelation 19:11-16 can not be used to justify any potential change in the Society's policy regarding bodily markings.

Oooooohhhhh, that is a GREAT share!!

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me too my friend!

I'd love to be there for that chat! Romans 14.....it's coming......they'll act like it just dawned on them.....

The reasoning or lack of it is outstanding in a bad way. When it's something they want to make a point on they twist it around. Example the other week like you my Spouse is a JW and the broadcast was on . They were talking about something I wasn't really listening but it went something like . A question was asked and the answer was" That's in the mosaic law and not applicable to us today. Later in the broadcast the mosaic law was mentioned but because it's something they wanted JWs to do it was we can accept the principle. I really don't understand how the active JWs don't see through all this nonsense. I give up even trying to talk to my Spouse about it anymore.

@@thetruthk5138 here and there, I make my snarky remarks. ESP, with the new changes. They do t get that it’s fact,,, that the GB are the Pharisees that the Bible depicted. JUST DUMB ASS RULES. 🤪😵‍💫

@@survivingparadisepodcast this wouldn’t even wake him up.

It's going to happen!!!

yes, it s the main and best reason to leave jws or any other fundamentalist bible based religion, I agree with you

You and I definitely think alike ;)

That's what I think as well. Birthdays will be approved first, then Mother's Day and Father's Day.

A fairly easy one to give back....I see it as possible

I'm with you...NO more religion!

@@survivingparadisepodcast now that I left instead of looking for fault with the JW’s I have become a fan of Bible scholars like Bart Ehrman. He is a non believing Bible translator and has a guest sometimes who was a translator for the Vatican. I go straight for the reliability of scripture and the context of the times it was written. Likewise with the JW’s. I went straight for the jugular and dug deep into the anointed doctrine of 144,000. If they cannot verify their anointing by providing proof the bottom line is that it’s bullshit. Anointing and having the right to micromanage lives is a big claim that requires a big burden of proof. Without that they’re just another religion that doesn’t know anymore than I do about the meaning of life. If the 144,000 is bogus then end of conversation. We have nothing else to prove and can go live out best life and not allow it to live rent free in our heads.

In case anyone hasn’t guessed I don’t feel obligated to save anyone anymore. That was a JW thing, moving ahead with my life and forgetting the trauma is my only obligation.

Truth!

Same for me. We were expected to tell all of teachers on the first day of school we were JWs, then preach to them about why we won't celebrate anything. I never did. I always waited to cross that bridge when I got there and handle it as softly as possible. I never felt an obligation to hammer people about my JW beliefs, even though I was a fully in, multi-generation JW.

You got out early, FANTASTIC!!

Ugh, terrible memories there@@adamantiumbullet9215

@@survivingparadisepodcast Yeah......but then there was that "Return to Jehovah" campaign thing in 2016 ... 😒 Now, here I am with a fancy pseudonym and no family/friends. Go Figure 👿

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They' aren't very .... bright

I’m sorry to hear that, but with the changes, it will be easier to stay a pimo. I hope all goes well for you!

@@beautyRest1 thanks that's what I am hoping for

Thank you for being here and much respect to you and all you're enduring!!! Please take care of yourself as you stay 'in'.....I do believe they're going to soften many things to make it all more attractive to younger people and those on the fence

LOL, I wish I thought of that, brilliant!

Those stories make me laugh everytime

The only reason I disagree with the blood doctrine changing is the amount of litigation they would be hit with.....too many past JWs would sue them

"Would they claim, 'You made me do it'? Could they make that claim? I think the organization will take a chance with that one. When they previously taught that organ transplants were wrong and then changed their stance, did they face any lawsuits? I'm not entirely sure.

Well actually it's "conscience". 🥳🎂🍰🍾🥂

@@scottpeterson7500 HAHA thank you.

Do it, I love it!!! You do you!!

That would require too much money to make the changes, you think they'll do it? ;)

@@survivingparadisepodcast you mean when they’ll go bankrupt ?They have “witnessed “ themselves in a corner. Warwick will have to go, and like the prominent Nazis in ‘45 many will flee ( sorry , Raptured off )to South America) Beards and all. The Watchtower will implode. What do you THINK Stacey? A great time to be an Apostate ?

WOW!!! Where have you been my entire life?? LOL, I could have used your talent many, many times throughout my JW years!!

Thank you so much!!

That is more BS...."Non practicing members of the LGBTQ + community", really? What about "Non practicing heterosexuals"? Their double standards and utter hipocrisy is astouding.

I think they will hold strong to their awful treatment of gay people

Additional thoughts related to your video: Regarding tattoos, I don't think they'll allow witnesses to get them while they're "in the truth", but they might relax the rules about newly indoctrinated or returning witnesses who got tattoos before get their privileges. I think the hair length will come way before the ink. For piercings, they might allow men to wear earrings, but not elsewhere on their bodies (nose, lip, brow, nip, genitalia). One super cooky idea I had that allows them to reinforce the inerrancy of the Bible: there may be some people who heard Jesus say 'some of you will not die' are still alive today. There may come a day where the governing body starts telling its followers to take up arms. Jehovah has repeatedly sent his people to war. In Luke 22:36 Jesus said to buy a sword. In Matthew 10, he also said he came to bring, not peace, but the sword. I don't think it will come soon, but they have the verses to back this position.

*"One new light I'm expecting soon is the claim that the Great Tribulation has already started."* This would be a return to the previous Watchtower doctrine. New old light, going full circle just to end up where they began, but calling it "progress".

Interestingly enough, your thought on the great tribulation would actually be a return to what the Society taught until the 1969 international assembly. The understanding was that the opening phase of the tribulation was effectively concurrent with the First World War. From and after 1919, we've been living in the period after the tribulation (specifically the aforementioned opening phase) had been "cut short". (Matthew 24:22) This time of cessation would allow for the final members of the remnant, the heavenly class, to be gathered into the "little flock" of "chosen ones". (We already see a trend in this with the Society saying that the general heavenly calling is yet ongoing and did not end A.D. 1931-35.) The time of cessation would also allow for the Lord's "other sheep", the earthly class, to be gathered into the "one flock, [under Christ as the] one shepherd". (Compare Luke 12:32; John 10:16) In short, the time of cessation would allow for the field service to be accomplished in accordance with Matthew 24:14. Then, at some point allegedly in the near future, the tribulation would be allowed to resume with its final phase, the battle of Armageddon. It seems possible that the Society could return to this teaching. After all, it would allow the Society to retain 1914 (and, consequently, 1919) in some form. (In all honesty, I simply can not see the Society dropping that altogether. As Stacy mentioned, 1914 is the table on which the entire house of cards stands. (Those are my words, to be sure, but an accurate description of what he did say.)) As I mentioned above, the change regarding the end of the general heavenly calling could provide a chronological basis for this. After all, the Society is no longer dependent upon A.D. 1931-35 as an artificial and arbitrary cutoff for the anointed, with any new ones thereafter being replacements for those who turned unfaithful. Of course, the fact that their were over 22,000 who went on record as stating that they have the heavenly calling at the 2023 Memorial (part of an overall increase in that figure since that change was announced in 2007), the Society will need to dispense with 144,000 as a literal number. The "Revelation Climax" book gives the Society a basis to do this as well. According to the box on important numbers, 12 signifies completeness from a human standpoint. 144,000 is obviously a multiple of 12. Furthermore, in his analogy of the two olive trees, Paul is said to have written: "For I do not want you, brothers, to be ignorant of this sacred secret, in order for you not to be discreet in your own eyes: that a dulling of sensibilities has happened in part to Israel until the full number of people of the nations has come in, and in this manner all Israel will be saved." (Romans 11:25,26,NW 1984 edition) Notice that the phrase used is simply "the full number of people of the nations". A specific, literal number is not stipulated. The thought is of a complete representation, a cross section. Once that indeterminate "full number", that complete representation, that cross section has been achieved, then the angels holding back the four winds of the final phase of the great tribulation, the battle of Armageddon, would be told to release their grip.-Revelation 7:1-3. It would be very easy for the Society to do both of these things. Indeed, it would be easier by far than dispensing with 1914 altogether. And, regrettably, it would also have the effect of tightening the control the Society exerts over Jehovah's witnesses as the Society can then continue to point to 1919 as the year in which it was appointed as Christ's "faithful and discreet slave" class "over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time". (Matthew 24:45-51,NW 1984 edition) On the positive side of the ledger, however, the "superior authorities" do seem to be taking more notice of the Society, meaning that the Society would end up being exposed as the "evil slave" class, which the Society no longer mentions except as a warning. So, in the final analysis, this may not be so bad after all.

Excellent thoughts, I tend to agree....it will definitely change. It will be subtle and slow, but it's happening!

Thank you Thomas!! Very few people know this history, great share!@@thomash.schwed3662

Exactly!!!!

There were choirs at the Society's larger international assemblies in conjunction with the live orchestras prior to 1978, when, beginning with the "Victorious Faith" International Assembly, the Society switched to pre-recorded music at the summer assemblies, later expanded to the circuit assemblies. (Of course, the Society would refer to these as "choruses", seemingly to avoid any inadvertent connection with religion.) Even at district assemblies, there was typically a brother or a sister who would sing an occasional solo during the musical interludes and to accompany the singing by the delegates. Incidentally, I remember we still had a brother step onto the platform at circuit and district assemblies to direct the delegates during the singing using a conductor's baton. This continued well into the '80's. And, of course, who amongst us of a certain age also remember a live piano to accompany the singing during congregational meetings? What you're proposing would not be new in itself.

@@thomash.schwed3662 I remember the piano playing at the JW. Thank you for info

Ooohhh, that's a good one....you know, I could actually see that. Some of us remember live orchestras at the District Convention!

I loved that@@janespitfire9884

So true. If they have the awareness to hide all of the previous "prophecies" from their membership, they certainly are at the very least suspicious.

They're about $$$ and power

@@survivingparadisepodcast Ohhhh Yeah, of course, what was I thinking.

@@Eric_01 Yep, so true

thank you!

Fantastic point to share!!

GEN X!! Yep, there will many, many, many of us upset watching this....devastating as kids!

@@survivingparadisepodcast ❤️❤️❤️

I'll have to check that out

You win: A Bowie reference!!!

@@survivingparadisepodcast who could top adamantiumbullet9215 tour de force comedy gold! anyway on behalf of the academy and all commenters everywhere i accept this award. i hope it's not one of those "chocolate cones".

Thank you!

My comment is referring back to the early 1950s. I’m 71 now

An I love how they use Caleb and Sophia cartoons to try to make that very point. "Oh, we know how to have fun...", followed by nothing but Caleb just dropping stuff and running into things. That's literally what they've portrayed as fun, a kid being goofy and his sister laughing at him.

LOL!!!! I couldn't stop laughing.....insane!!! And young Eric knows how to throw a party!!!

YES!! The change was disturbing and an admission of failure!! Time and lack of mention makes it all slowly go away.....they've done it before!

Right? it makes me so sick

Oink oink!

Oh wow, I'm not familiar with that channel!

@@survivingparadisepodcast You could be brothers lol. Enjoy your humor!

Love it!

Synchronicity!!!!

They have committed to print that they alone are the spokesman for Jehovah...it's true and in print

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i agree

I don't have any tattoos myself, but I think the freedom to make your own decision means a lot to most people. I think they will make it a conscience matter....it 'sort of' is already, but with all the changes, they will throw this one in....just my prediction ;)

LOL!!!!

I love that you got out!! You and I agree, they will soften shunning (they think they already have) to protect them from litigation and other countries following in Norway's steps. They need young people to stay and grow......they're rebranding

Yep! See a past episode on how they steal your identity!

LOL, can you believe they coined that phrase...in print??? LOL!