Defense is saying the parents thought he was suicidal, not homocidal. What good reasons to leave him alone, buy him a gun and just ignore his cries for help. Did they want him to kill himself, it kind of seems like they didnt care too much if he did. Thats sad.
Spot on. The “don’t do it” text after she knew there was a shooting at the school was the only regard she showed him until that point. Played into the States case, not the defense.
If this was my son, and I neglected his mental health and ignored him, I wouldn’t be sitting in court trying to get out of it, I would plead guilty if they showed mercy on my son and got him the help he needed... they only care about themselves.
Yeah but that’s coming from a parent that actually cares. These parents are selfish morons. They just want to save themselves and live their life without their son and go horseback riding without any worries.
I raised a mentally ill son as a single parent. I worked to provide for us, and I had no help. I gave up a full time job for a part time one to seek help for my teenager. We both suffered a great deal, but we made it to the other side. I never, ever gave up on him, and I fought like hell with heartless professionals who recommended I give up and send him away, and school officials that wanted to keep him out of school and deny him an education. He got help, and an education. I did my job as a parent, and I genuinely loved my boy even when he gave me a hard time, and I'd do it again. Today, at age 44, he is a respected ordained Christian minister and this Monday he celebrates his 7th wedding anniversary. He married a fine, well educated, beautiful Christian young lady and they couldn't be happier. He calls me his "hero", but I was just being a loving mom. This poor Ethan Crumbley deserved the same from his parents. Four children are dead because of them, others were injured, and Ethan's life is ruined. Without help, he will be tormented by his defective brain through no fault of his own. I have no sympathy for his parents. They deserve many years in prison for the deaths they caused and could have prevented. They had each other to help their child; I did it alone. Two adults, but not one loving and responsible parent between them.
You are also my hero. I’ve been an educator and seen many families face difficulties in very different ways… but your commitment is not only beneficial to your son but everyone he interacts with for his whole life. Your child became our neighbor, co worker, friend, etc and his happy life is testament to your strength and love. Bless you!
Ethan will go through the rest of his life feeling the pain of his actions. The parents on the other hand will go through their lives feeling like the victims and thinking that it was unfair that they should have been responsible for either their son or the other child. Their excuses are weak as water and I pray they do not get away with that nonsense.
and they had abandoned him when they went in hiding! They make me so sick to my stomach..this poor kid never had a chance! I'm not condoning what he did but this kid was screaming to his parents for help! Not only did they not clearly give a living hell about their son but of others and that's what boils me!
I wouldn't be surprised if these attorneys are representing them pro-bono. It can really advance one's career to represent people in a high profile case where there is chance you can win an acquittal. Ethan on the other hand has no chance of being acquitted making there little to gain in representing him for free.
@@xxwhispersxx2856 Some people, but not this kid. Begging his mom to just answer his text when he was hearing people breaking things in his house. Always alone.
Completely heartbreaking situation. The sheer anger and disgust I feel towards these people is beyond words. My children have absolutely no access to firearms, have always come to me with their problems and shown that they’re valid, and not once has it ever been difficult to do these things because they’re LOVED just as ANY true parent would for their children. I truly and wholeheartedly hope these people rot for what they’ve done both in their neglect and their lack of love for their child. He not only took four innocent lives but essentially his own as well.
1. Comparing your home life to that of another's is mundane and offers no real context to their specific situation. 2. Parents such as these two may not have grown up in an environment that taught those values. It is therefore hard to expect parents with no background as to how to be a proper parent to do so later in life with their own children. 3. Ethan was obviously reaching out for help that his parents denied him out of disinterest in their own child and lack of proper knowledge on how/when and what actions to take when confronted with these issues. 4. I grew up with guns, that did not make me a savage human with no respect for life. I spent the first two decades of my life hunting with my great uncles. 5. Parents should not go out and buy their child a gun as a toy at 15 with no proper background in hunting or training for multiple years before being trusted with such a weapon under total adult supervision. Example: I shot my first deer at 7 but was allowed to have my own hunting rifle only at the age 13 and it was *never within my reach* without my grandfather giving me access to my weapon for specific hunting trips from the gun safe. There were months I never handled my gun during off season except for practice at the range under proper supervision. 5. These parents seemed to care more for their horses and their own hobbies than their own child. Neglect like this creates an atmosphere within the home that is conducive to rage violence. 6. Our country desperately needs to change the way we handle mental and physical health within this country. Gun laws which continue to allow people to purchase weapons without a proper mental health evaluation, training and safety courses is ignorant and self serving with a huge cost to society. 7. Mental and physical health should not be based on the ability of someone to pay but instead based on one's need for those services.
I am convinced that the parents knew what he was going to do. They did not expect him to survive and they certainly did not expect to be charged with any crimes. The severe neglect proves to me that Jennifer and possibly James wanted their son to either commit suicide or died in a mass shooting event.
That’s absurd, first of all all those drawings and writings were scribbled out when they saw it at school. Has anyone considered that his parents didn’t take what he said seriously? He’s saying a demon is throwing dishes around the kitchen? Someone was in the house, flushed the toilet? Maybe they just thought he was scared was why they bought him the gun. He didn’t want to go to the stables. They’re not Dr’s and the school should have suspended him and not allowed him back. Maybe he was in drugs? Sure sounds like it and what he said to his one friend. There was that video of him passing out at work too.
@Wray & Nephew I said the same exact thing. I said from the beginning that they expected him to off himself so they didn't have to deal with him it's quite evident in the testimony how much more important those horses were then her own son. They didn't want to deal with him. What they didn't think is they were going to have to deal with was their responsibility of him getting the gun in the first place. They never thought about that, hell they're lucky he didn't kill them!
@@gojobuddy lets try to think this through... If you have a child that was imagining that they saw demons and the house was haunted. A child who has little to know friends and is already very mentally disturbed, would you buy that child a firearm. With no consideration of what the child might do or who the child might shoot????? This reeks of intention more so than neglect.
The defense attorney speaks like a 10-year-old doing an oral essay. It makes me crazy, especially all the pauses and "ums" during questioning. I have so many feelings about this entire case, but any way you look at it, the boy was 15 yrs old and these 2 parents failed. What's worse is they seem to have 0 remorse or even concern for their trouble children post horror. My heart and prayers to those families of the deceased students and student body that is forever traumatized.
This explains why the parents didn't end up taking him with them that day from school when they all had the meeting in the office. And then we all know what happened after that...smh. That's UNACCEPTABLE👆🏻!! Their kid was reaching out to them for help and they just ignored him and worried about themselves. I'm surprised the mom even took him shooting. They acted negligently, carelessly, and with complete disregard for their own son. WHO TF DOES THAT??? That's very sad!!! ...BTW To the defense atty, the parents did know he would shoot up the school bcuz they were just shown in the office meeting the drawing he had drawn in class. The school shouldnt of allowed him to remain at the school and suspended him from school and the parents to pick him up rt away with no choice.....Listen and pay attention to your children even if u think they don't want anything to do with you.
I can't imagine how horrible Ethan must have felt having his parents not even care or hugging him and taking the day off to talk with him. I feel sick about that!
@@bryanx0317 Mental Health problems do not equal sociopath. He was showing signs of paranoia, which can be attributed to any mood disorder. If they had listened to him when he was at home and thought someone else was in the house and got him treatment instead of telling him to 'suck it up' . This is a very common time in this teen's life to have a mood disorder present itself. Plain and simple these parents screwed up in not getting him treatment. Lets us not forget on the day this happened they were told he had suicidal ideation. As a parent of a child with a mood disorder, I could never have walked away from my child and said go back to class and refuse to take him home on that day, putting a job in front of my child. They are right where they belong and I am glad that the judge saw through the lawyer's bull.
@@AkNonna More and more evidence is being revealed that he planned and calculated this mass murdering spree. He's infatuated with violence and wanted to revel in the misery of others. He's either a sociopath or someone that only feels what we would deem as negative emotions.
These people sure have done a fine job ruining so many lives with their unwillingness to parent this child properly. I’m extremely proud of the Prosecutor for having all of her ducks in a row to try to bring some sort of justice to the victims’ families.
When my now 38 yr old son had a break up at age 16 and said the words “I feel like killing myself” I tearfully called 911 and he was taken to mental health for 24 hours! Very painful but necessary as his mother
I have a child with special needs who gets angry my husband likes guns but we have decided as responsible parents not to allow any type of weapons in our home, our kitchen knifes are even put up. Not that we think k he would ever do anything but that it's a SAFE GAURD for just incase his anger gets ahead of him cause THATS OUR JOB!!!!! UGH these parents are idiots
This story only gets sadder as it goes along. From all I can gather he begged for help. His mother was more into the horses than her son. His father was trying to please the mother. Totally toxic situation
If you watch the kid's trial though, he was a manipulator. Who knows if the sob story portion of this wasn't just something he planted to paint his character in a certain light. Either way the parents were total dipshits for buying that kid a weapon.
I agree the lawyer did a Greta job once they got the counselor up on the stand an ripped him apart an showed the world the incompetence an total disregard for safety of others .. By NOT following the laws codes an mandates since Colombine that would have prevented this ....
Those text messages sent from that child to his parent...got no response....the many cries for help went uncared for...both parents are equally to blame for the lack of parental guidance. The fact that those morons are sitting with paper and pencils is beyond me. Like wft are you writing you are as guilty as that young man who took other young people's lives... and May they all rest in peace.
Why did she text him “don’t do it”? ....wouldn’t a mother call her son straight away rather than text? It was 50/50 it was him at that point, he could have been a victim so why not call him either way but to send a text is poor effort. I honestly feel these cretins wanted him either dead or jailed so as he is out of their way. I wouldn’t be surprised if they planted the seed in his head to do this horrific act
I agree. I lived with actual parents that tried to get me to do something to die or get jailed. It happens!!! It’s a miracle I survived and have a good life. It’s astonishing BOTH parents didn’t even hug him, or talk to him directly that day in the counselors office. And it’s shameful both parents either laughed at him or said a one liner in response to his mention of his mental health concern. Also when looking at his greasy hair the basics of hygiene were not addressed as basic parenting. I bet the same goes for dental, physicals, and certainly socializing solutions for a normal teen let alone one in a pandemic. Many parents are challenged with how to safely provide their child socialization during this time. They didn’t do anything additional to compensate for the pandemic. What a time to buy a gun… it’s not an age appropriate socializing opportunity. They could have bought him an after school e sports camp … at least he would have been with other people. Or found another hobby shop that played in person games. They just had to TRY.
@@truevanilla2241 that was a nice response. I’m sorry you had things in life you shouldn’t have 💕 happy you found happiness 😀 you are absolutely a wonderful person
Selfish yes, not nominated for the #1 parent award yes, and pretty negligent yes but being charged for their sons crime no. Just my opinion and if so then the school staff as well as they also have an obligation to report neglect! I’m not saying they don’t deserve to be charged with something but not this and again it’s just my opinion.
Imagine if all parents started serving whatever the son gets. Im Glad they are facing not just a few years but 60. I love Karen for making them the first to set a example and lose everything for there child!
This poor kid. I hope he receives the help he deserves. Some love that these parents didn't give him. From where I sit in Australia, the way Ethan was treated was child abuse.
@@SteveV2023 , He's not spending any time in jail after his conviction. His defense will try to keep him from prison and into a "forensic detention center" which is nothing more than a very expensive warehouse. In either prison or forensic he will get no "help" and after his murderous rampage, will unlikely see his 30th birthday
I had CRUMBY parents! BAD parenting is all too common & society needs to acknowledge this FACT & find a way to HELP parents do a better job or these horrifying killings will just continue.
Yes. The quote that saved me was “you cannot choose your parents but you can chose whose child you become”. I remain grateful for every teacher, librarian, ymca counselor and kind stranger who saw how terrible my life was and offered me kindness, food, shelter, etc I became their kid :) These parents and teachers failed Ethan and I’m heartened that so many comments on here show that people don’t want him hanged, but helped.
What normal person with a child crying out for help rides a damn horse for 3-4 hours on multiple days and leaves said disturbed child alone with guns. The Mom was done parenting this boy and did what she wanted. This 100% could have been avoided if the parents had acted differently. They are essentially saying this was all our child's fault.
I can't imagine ignoring my son & not responding to him. These parents are guilty in my eyes. They could have stopped this. I feel sorry for Ethan, no one should be so invisible & yet be so in need of human contact & support. I hope they are given a harsh sentence because they deserve it.
If the standard is “they could have stopped it” then charge the professionals at school who owed a duty of care to all the students but failed to check the backpack, too. Also: not replying to every single one of your teen’s texts can be seen as mean and uncaring, but it isn’t a crime. Some parents actually like to foster a certain level of self-reliance in a kid who’s 3 years away from adulthood. It’s fine to imagine not responding to every single demanding message sent by a kid who’s 36 months away from being expected to function as an adult.
I wish I could have seen moms face when Karen met with mom and dad to let them know to expect charges because as the first parents to be charged she had to be surprised and terrified.
This is heartbreaking to listen to what Ethan texted and wrote in his journal. The parents refused to help Ethan. They laughed, ignored, and scorned him instead. The school likewise did nothing. No backpack search. No calling CPS ,when the parents refused to take Ethan for emergency counseling. No notifying the police officer assigned to the school, to at least ask him about it. Nothing. This shooting had events leading up to it, like dominoes all lined up. Remove any domino, and you prevent that last domino from falling. Once that first domino fell, they all fell, and 4 kids died and others were injured. I hope the school officials are likewise charged with involuntary manslaughter. They are equally at fault for not stopping Ethan from going on his rampage. EDIT: The attorney in the black suit is talking about how the Crumbley parents couldn't know this or that. If they gaf about their son, they would've known what was in his phone, in his room, in his stuff, in his journal. They would've rushed to his side, when he called Jennifer for help, home alone, seeing and hearing demons, believing the house was haunted, going outside because he was afraid to stay inside. She didn't even reply. He begged, "Can you at least text back?" No. She didn't. They didn't care about him. He was in their way, an inconvenience, a nuisance. That's why they didn't know; they didn't WANT/CARE to know. In closing, in civil court, parents can be held financially responsible for the bad acts of their kids. I don't see why they shouldn't also be held responsible for their kids' criminal acts.
A LOT of critical information of different types was available to all the adults involved here that fell through the cracks WITHOUT ANY EXCUSE with tragic and disastrous consequences; the parents, the school counselor, & the school principal ... how different things would be today if these adults had done things which they should have done & could have done.
Thank GOD they're going to trial 🙏 🙌! So glad to hear this outcome and tbh wound to the end after 2 minutes each of listening to both defense attorneys bc they don't have a leg to stand on between themselves in this one. I'd be begging for a plea deal instead but those demons won't budge, too narcissistic and ego fueled and VERY self righteously so. Typical...
I totally think they will crack towards the end and ask for a plea deal. They are so hated right now that I wouldn't be surprised if they got the max sentence if it went to trial. They will probably end up serving 5-10 years.
If they don’t want to take a responsibilities why did they plan for kids .. because of their own problems spoiling so many life’s …. Just disgusting to hear …I really don’t understand still one thing.. I didn’t see a single time pain on their face about their son . Really it’s upsetting… and mind blowing…
“The prosecution has stretched hard to bring in evidence” says the defense lawyer at 28:12 …..ahhh no they haven’t… Everything the prosecution has said is factual evidence that actually happened… So how is that “stretching hard”?!? This female lawyer for the defense is a real wizard 🙄🤔
@@t.martin3179 wow really, she doesn’t seem very seasoned and seems very unprepared….Larry was convicted and hopefully they will be too so either way Larry along with these 2 criminals apparently picked the right attorney for them and for the American people….one that will for sure lose their case!
I think that the defence lawyers are unskilled and inexperienced. Every time I hear either speaking, they just seem a little off the mark. I wonder if they are court appointed. Nothing wrong with that but these are serious crimes and experience is needed. Just listening to the one saying that these parents have no responsibility to the other students, victims, reinforces the idea that she at least is not qualified. A fifteen year old climbing into bed with his parent is not normal. How many signals did these parents need?
You know what, if the parents think that a fifteen year old boy climbing into bed with his parents is normal it’s no wonder he was feeling alone. That boy was in affect a ‘free range’ child, left to raise himself.
The prosecutor is so clear, concise and professional even when clearly it’s so emotional for that community. In contrast the defending attorney ums and ahhs her way through her statement. When your job is talking, debating and arguing legalities surely omitting ums and ahs from your speech would be top of the list? She came across unprofessional, unprepared and amateurish. If I was in Jennifer’s seat I would be very worried…. Oh and btw when she states Ethan will be held accountable, he hasn’t gone to trial yet, he pled not guilty, there is every possibility his legal team will present evidence of insanity or mental incapacity…
What is up with all of the noise frome the defense table during testimony of the journal?? All of the LOUD paper shuffling and binder clipping!! Isn't that what the office is for!?
I am watching all of these videos and trying to decide what to feel. I say this because I have a daughter who was diagnosed at 13 with borderline personality disorder.no matter what I did, no matter what help I got for my family, she would do whatever she wanted without compunction. It just did not matter. She was in therapy. The principal of the school and I talked almost daily. Nothing mattered. I know what it is like to try and try to help but nothing matters. Nothing helps. Even the therapist said, no drugs, no therapy will help. I have since earned my masters degree and PhD in psychology to help me understand and help me get beyond any guilt I felt for creating/ causing this in my daughter. I could tell stories that would curl your hair of things she did. At the same time what did these parents fail to do to help understand what Ethan was feeling? It seems he screamed for help and got none. My daughter did not ask for help. She has since been diagnosed as a psychopath. We had no weapons and no alcohol in our home. Ever.
@@lf9341 no I didn't I can barely take what I have seen .That kid was neglected in cruel ways I hope they throw the damn book at these monsters . Curious what is your opinion on him being tried as adult mine is nay
This case is absolutely heartbreaking but i hope to hell that it serves as lesson for every single parent to be involved completely in your kids life. Thier school, their friends and their emotional health.
They wanted a bond after they already tried to flee prior to going to trial? The fuq? What do they think we are stupid? I think they bought the gun for their kid so he would commit suicide. Honestly. Call me crazy, but I think these two were terrible parents but also weak. They wanted the job done but couldn’t do it theirselves. So they distanced theirselves, had their son hurt alone by himself (I don’t feel any remorse after what he did to those kids) but after being in so much pain and crying out for help in every way possible, he said screw it. He didn’t want to kill himself, he just wanted attention from his parents. And he got it. The Mom told everyone and anyone he was a loner, had no friends and was weird. She was never home with the father. They didn’t love their son, they didn’t feel any bond with him enough to help him. Instead they instigated him to hurt someone, and I think they wanted that someone to be himself - not the school. Karma’s a b.
It seems like the defense counsel misinterpreted the law. Their entire argument was centered around the Crumbleys not being informed in advance that their son was going to commit a school shooting. But at the 51:22 mark, the judge states the opposite based on case law...that the defendents didn't have to be personally aware that the crime was going to be committed, only that it was reasonably foreseeable. The defense team needs to do their homework better...based on this as well as other previous incidents, they do seem to be rather unprepared at times.
These selfish and neglectful parents kept him locked in his distorted mind while he begged for help to get out of it. Let them stay locked up for life, ignore their plea for freedom as they did to their son and get him the help he's been screaming for. This is all so sad. God bless the families and the souls of all these babies who lost their lives that day. It never ever should have happened.💔🙏
I listened to his hearing as well. The captain of the jail shared that he had an insane amount of $$$ in his Canteen/Commissary account. People keep depositing money is his account and writing to him. So wild to me.
They should have known it was a possibility that he was homicicdle knowing they saw guns on the drawing, he asked for therapy, knew a gun was at home. The sole action of James Crumbley going home to look for the gun when he heard of a school shooting at the school shows exactly that it was a thought that should have been in his mind beforehand. These defense attorneys are delusional! I hope their clients end up in prison where they belong.
In my opinion, yes. Ethan still made the choice to blow away four of his classmates. He deserves the max. The parents do deserve to have the book thrown at them tho.
39:04 thru 45:40 was such a good closing statement. It's nice to have a prosecutor that one can be proud of. The defense? I guess they're doing the best they can.
I. Why has a 14 year old have a gun. 2. What in the world are these parents buy him a gun. 3. These parents need to take a good look at themselves. 4. They should go to jail for not giving this child the care he needed.
I wonder if jenny and jimmy had life insurance policy on ethan, nudging him to kill himself with that xmas present, so they could kill 2 birds with one stone (apologies to baby birds little ethan exterminated for fun). They would be rid of the burden of ethan, garner sympathy while collecting money off his death. The only downside would be people having to wait longer for their Wendy's bacon burgers if jimmy had less need to be in the doordash-driver pool.
This couple have been neglected on so many levels and are absolutely criminaly responsible . This kid was begging for help and these selfish parents ignored him . Now this father can suck it up. The mother is absolutely heartless to ignore a 15 year old who begged her to come home and I strongly believe this couple deserve whats coming sadly
if he said he needed help..why didn't they ever read his journal? dad says well you have your journal? what was all that about? why didn't they ever find it and read it if they thought he had problems??
The defense is right. "Could of should of would of is not criminal" In America we rarely convict people for the actions of others. The state's case is a weak one.
@@wraynephew6838 very true. I definitely don’t agree with the parents lack of interest in their child’s mental health or their son’s action but I would have did a better job presenting more as their defense lol! She got a little cloudy during some points but overall could be a really good defense! The law says that it needs to be proven that they knew he was going to do it and regardless of the gun purchase (stupid) doesn’t really prove them being involved….
👍. Correct. And where is the feeling in her "message"??. I would beg him along the lines of "Ethan, I'm scared. I love you, we love you, please please please don't hurt yourself".
Parents who think it is their child and they will raise them the way they see fit eliminates the impact on society. Parents are responsible for their children. If we knew a co-worker or friend was dealing with mental health issues and it was not reported there would also be an issue. Sadly they are not the worst parents but they certainly show neglect and should be charged. We are not comparing them to the world or blaming Covid, read logical fallacies. Persons who are suicidal often choose to take others with them. Keep the legal process going, things need to change. Look up 'Gun Owners For Responsible Gun Ownership'. No legal duty, maybe there needs to be one.
Smith and her co-counsel take "high stakes" cases (their words). She has another case starting next week based out of a murder in Farmington Hills that is a suspected honor killing. Larry Nassar was also a client. There's a type of law for every attorney.
Prosecutor has already proven her case. They were negligent. This could have been prevented but the parents helped it to happen by buying their sick son a gun.
I don't understand how the Crumbly's lawyer states they can't read his (Ethan) mind 🙄... I'm sorry but good parents know when something is wrong with their child. Till this day as a grown adult my mother knows when something is wrong with me without me having to say anything. Mother's intuition I call it. When your parent cares about you they will know when a change in you happened and will be there to say "are you ok", "tell me what's going on I know something's wrong", etc. I know when I don't answer my mom or don't want to talk the next thing she does, that means the world to me, she will just embrace me. A Mother's Love it's like a bandaid most times. I honestly feel bad for the kid (Ethan) because if his parents JUST TOOK THE TIME TO BE THERE for him they probably wouldn't be in this predicament, probably 🤷🏾♀️
Have a hard time feeling sorry for anyone other than the victims of this horrible tragedy. The defendant was old enough to be responsible for his actions, the parents knew it was going to happen and failed to stop it.
It's sad the law says children can be left alone at the age of 12, just because a law says you can do this dosen't make it right to do so many children get themselves into trouble many are not mentally ready to be left alone
And here I thought it was normal for a 12 year old to babysit while home alone. I also never knew there was a legal age thought it was always based on their maturity. Id assume a typical 11 year old would do better than a 16 year old.
Or just love your kids. Children from loving homes rarely turn out bad. Sure it happens, but kids from uncaring homes are far more likely to get involved in crime, drugs, etc.
The parents bought him the gun. He's a my minor. There it is there. If I gave one of my kids a lighter or matches and said "this is for you" then they go out with that lighter and start a fire. They are guilty but I am responsible. Period.
It is illegal to testify against one's husband. Yes then why is it that they think that it should be legal to turn in once flesh and blood son. Really that is pretty hideous. Why don't they blame the school environment for their hostile overcrowded facility.
It is not illegal to testify against a spouse, Curtis Reeves’ wife just testified for the prosecution. Married persons cannot be forced to testify to reveal communications only known between each other. The confidentiality of marriage is similar to attorney and client. A spouse cannot simply decide not to testify in a case where their spouse is charged. In this case of the Crumbley’s they are sharing the same law firm. While doing so gives the appearance they are ‘in this together’ in their ignorance and innocence, they rolled the dice as they did not think this would go to trial and two attorneys from the same firm was likely cheaper. All bets are off now, the reality is the DA, prosecution team, and a judge thinks this case has enough evidence for them to be found guilty in a trial by peers. Now I expect all the ‘in this together’ will fall away, they will be each in it for themselves. If they are smart they will not share attorneys at the same law firm and if they have a choice not be tried together. The ship is leaking and experienced people are saying it could go down. If the lifeboat only has room for one, only the most loving committed couple would share and risk death together- or one give up to save the other. Do I see that capacity for love and commitment in the Crumbleys? Not based on their actions toward their son.
Mrs Crumbley's attorney's comments or rebuttal are so off base. The counselor didn't see the homicidal risk because the parents withheld crucial information that would have given the full picture of the situation which would have enabled the counselor to make an informed assessment. The attorney also grossly understates the amount of time the child was left alone and the effect this had on the killer.
