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Prelude to The Hobbit - What led to the Events of the Hobbit? Battle of Azanulbizar - Tolkien Lore 

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A detailed lore video about the events that let to what we know from The Hobbit book. We talk about the Dwarves a lot, esp. about the Sacking of Erebor due to the Dragon Smaug and the Battle of Azanulbizar. But Also about the White Council, the struggles of Gondor and Rohan and the birth of Aragorn.
Mentioned Links:
A Whisper in the Twilight: Chapter One:
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I have permission of the artists to use their art works.
► Artwork and special thanks to:
Kimberly80 - deviantart.com/kimberly80
Ted Nasmith - tednasmith.com
Jenny Dolfen Art - / jennydolfen or goldseven.wordpress.com - etsy.com/de/shop/JennyDolfen
Sara Morello Art - deviantart.com/samo-art
Pete Amachree - artstation.com/summerpudding
► Sources:
The Lord of The Rings (1954-1955) by J. R. R. Tolkien
The Silmarillion (1977)
The Hobbit (1937; 1951)
Unfinished Tales (1980)
The Letters of J. R. R. Tolkien (1981)
The Peoples of Middle-earth (1996)
The War of The Jewels (1994)
The Lost Road and Other Writings (1987)
The Shaping of Middle-earth (1986)
Morgoth's Ring (1993)
History of the Hobbit (2007)
The Nature of Middle-earth (2021)
TolkienGateway.net
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Amazon (John Howe)
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@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 11 месяцев назад
I hope you enjoy the video ^^ Took some time to make. I maybe stream later on Twitch Shout-outs to the artists (links in the description): Kimberly80 Ted Nasmith Sara Morello Art Jenny Dolfen Pete Amachree (and all the others ^^)
@liamsavage3500
@liamsavage3500 10 месяцев назад
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@liamsavage3500
@liamsavage3500 10 месяцев назад
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@liamsavage3500
@liamsavage3500 10 месяцев назад
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@liamsavage3500
@liamsavage3500 10 месяцев назад
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@liamsavage3500
@liamsavage3500 10 месяцев назад
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@theamazingbatboy
@theamazingbatboy 11 месяцев назад
Wow, absolutely love the quote "..it gives patience, to listen to error without anger." Something I've been feeling in my own life; not jumping to anger or defiance in the face of opposition, but biding your time and allowing wisdom to light the path.
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 11 месяцев назад
yes that's a good one ^^ I can also relate to that, but I don't smoke. Tea does the job as well though for me
@theamazingbatboy
@theamazingbatboy 11 месяцев назад
​@@ThePhilosophersGames Haha, I used to smoke, pretty heavily, but quit about 10 years ago. I still have that small, nostalgic regret which gets stronger when reading texts I first read as a child. I think it's different for us watching movies or reading books where characters smoke as part of the narrative. There's a genuine emotional pull, as silly as that sounds written down. Anyway, it adds a comforting vibe to some writings and possibly lends weight to certain scenes which non-smokers might miss out on!
@tashabuffyyar725
@tashabuffyyar725 11 месяцев назад
I thoroughly enjoyed listening to all the info and filling in some of the gaps that had not been explained before. Thank you for the extensive work that went into this video and look forward to hearing more... Unbelievable.
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 11 месяцев назад
Thank you much appreciated. I'm very happy to hear that I could provide something new to Tolkien fans. It's an interesting topic and I also learnt new things while doing research 😄
@theamazingbatboy
@theamazingbatboy 11 месяцев назад
Lovely to see you back into the long form videos again. I've missed your narration ♥
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 11 месяцев назад
Thank you ^^ Yes the longer format is quite popular it seems, but as said in streams I consider everything above 20 minutes as long already. And I als made a 40+ min video about Path Tracing on the gaming channel recently.
@paulfreeborn1493
@paulfreeborn1493 11 месяцев назад
Great video as always Chris! It really helps to establish the context for The Hobbit.
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 11 месяцев назад
Thank you, much appreciated ^^ Yes agreed. It's quite interesting how many things ultimately led to the events of the Hobbit. I also learnt and noticed a few new things while doing research.
@RobiFM90
@RobiFM90 11 месяцев назад
What an amazing video. I love the longer videos, feels like a tale.
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 11 месяцев назад
Thank you ^^ Very happy you enjoyed the video and yes I think it really is a tale with tons of side info. These very long videos are just always tough to make for me.
@nzinaz
@nzinaz 11 месяцев назад
Your content is worth the wait! Thanks, Chris!
@thestraightroad305
@thestraightroad305 11 месяцев назад
I have Tolkien’s translation of the Book of Jonah in my Jerusalem Bible. It is beautiful and fascinating. Voyage Comics, in a beautifully produced and illustrated series, used the Tolkien translation as inspiration for one of their fantastical adventures.
@TheUncleRuckus
@TheUncleRuckus 11 месяцев назад
Been subbed and liking for quite a few years now Chris. Great video as always my friend!👍👍
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 11 месяцев назад
Thank you. Happy that my long time viewers enjoy the video ❤️
@tonypickles2389
@tonypickles2389 11 месяцев назад
Wonderful. Thank you.
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 11 месяцев назад
Thank you as well, glad you liked it ^^
@istari0
@istari0 11 месяцев назад
Excellent work, thanks!
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 11 месяцев назад
Happy you enjoyed it and thank you, much appreciated :)
@bluew1zard449
@bluew1zard449 11 месяцев назад
Great I’ve missed your videos 🙌
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 11 месяцев назад
Yes video took longer than planned. Was in the works for quite some time and I worked on some bigger videos as well on the games channel recently. Also the Gollum Lore Let's Play were also longer videos. I liked the format there (was also 1+ hours per episode), but people seem to not be interested in the videos 😅
@yolispinner6653
@yolispinner6653 11 месяцев назад
Amazing video. Thank you for the hard work!💙
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 11 месяцев назад
Glad you enjoyed the video, much appreciated and thank you as well for taking the time to write a comment ^^
@canerkara9019
@canerkara9019 11 месяцев назад
Klasse Video wie immer super akkurat und unterhaltsam 👍Hätte meinetwegen noch 3 Stunden länger sein können 😁
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 11 месяцев назад
haha thank you ^^ If it was 3 hours long, it would have taken 3 times as long to make, a thought I find discouraging (from a creators perspective) 😂 Who is Elrond 2 with 2:47 hours was a nightmare to make 😅
@nzinaz
@nzinaz 11 месяцев назад
So good to hear your voice again, Chris! Thanks as always for your dedication and effort. ❤
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 11 месяцев назад
thank you ^^ On the gaming channel it could been heard also a few time, but ofc not everyone is into gaming and there are too many different games and genres. I plan a lore Q&A Stream this week as well.
@reflectiverambling1148
@reflectiverambling1148 11 месяцев назад
Thank you once again for your tireless work! I admit I never gave this as much thought as I should, with the threads a giant ball in my head, but you put thins together so smoothly that I feel like I have a better grasp now. Though, as with many of your works, I'm sure it could use a few more rewatches. The effort you put into these, and the ideas you present (Please feel free to ALWAYS include 'just' your headcanons!) are always apparent and a joy to hear!
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 11 месяцев назад
Thank you too, hope you are doing well ^^ Yes I think the details that led to the Hobbit are less discussed, compared to what happened before Lord of the Rings.
@reflectiverambling1148
@reflectiverambling1148 11 месяцев назад
@@ThePhilosophersGames they truly are. Maybe it's all of us elves with our superiority complexes. ;) well wait, no, who am I kidding . I'm just a hobbit who wishes I was an elf... but joking aside I'm also a part of dwarves need more love/appreciation club.
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 11 месяцев назад
haha true I'm also a Hobbit at heart, who thinks he is an Elf 😂 PS: agreed, Dwarves need more appreciation.
@reflectiverambling1148
@reflectiverambling1148 11 месяцев назад
@@ThePhilosophersGames what I'm getting from this is clearly we need to start a hobbit-elf + dwarven alliance club. The only trouble is finding a dwarf to cross the line. maybe the stature will make them more kindly to trusting us as opposed to 'true' elves...
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 11 месяцев назад
😂
@bencopeland3560
@bencopeland3560 11 месяцев назад
Just found this channel. Excellent content
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 11 месяцев назад
Thank you, welcome on board ^^
@OkaniJMCA
@OkaniJMCA 11 месяцев назад
Great video!
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 11 месяцев назад
Thank you ^^ Glad you liked it.
@otaku-sempai2197
@otaku-sempai2197 11 месяцев назад
Another clue to Smaug's age can be found 'way back in Chapter 1 of The Hobbit ("An Unexpected Party") when the secret entrance into Erebor is being discussed: "It may have been secret once," said Thorin, "but how do we know that it is secret any longer? Old Smaug has lived there long enough now to find out anything there is to know about those caves." "He may -- but he can't have used it for years and years." "Why?" "Because it is too small. 'Five feet high the door and three may walk abreast' say the runes, but Smaug could not creep into a hole that size, not even when he was a young dragon, certainly not after devouring so many of the dwarves and men of Dale." The implication here is that Smaug was still a young dragon when he first came to Erebor. We cannot know exactly how long it takes for a dragon to mature, but it seems likely that Smaug was hatched in the Withered Heath, where the dragons were breeding, around the middle of the Third Age or later.
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 11 месяцев назад
Thank you, good point ^^ I red that passage as well during research, and as you say it also goes more into the direction of a younger dragon, which also fits the other argument about Erebor (PS: I mean Esgaroth) not being that old.
@otaku-sempai2197
@otaku-sempai2197 11 месяцев назад
@@ThePhilosophersGames Well, we know that the kingdom of Erebor was established in the year 1999 of the Third Age, though Durin's Folk seems to have been mining the Lonely Mountain before that date. EDIT: It seems possible (if not likely) that the remains of the older Esgaroth that Bilbo spotted were the remnants of a previous version of the town that was destroyed by Smaug (although this is far from certain). The original Esgaroth might have been built by the side of the Long Lake perhaps even before the founding of Dale.
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 11 месяцев назад
My mistake I meant Esgaroth
@eddiecharles6457
@eddiecharles6457 11 месяцев назад
Thank you for your videos.
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 11 месяцев назад
Glad you enjoyed them. Much appreciated and thank you as well for commenting 👍
@mattcoles72
@mattcoles72 11 месяцев назад
Amazing video, as usual!
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 11 месяцев назад
Thank you as always ^^
@jeffreylondynsky7030
@jeffreylondynsky7030 11 месяцев назад
Very well done! I am quite pleased with your explanations and will be happy to recommend you in the LOTR groups I follow.
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 11 месяцев назад
Thank you, much appreciated ^^
@thomaskeane5723
@thomaskeane5723 11 месяцев назад
Great video! I will always be disappointed that Peter Jackson did not include Dain seeing Durin's Bane.
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 11 месяцев назад
Yes that would have been so cool imo I agree
@kyntyckykobra3300
@kyntyckykobra3300 10 месяцев назад
Or Tom Bombadil Pete jack@$$ was stupid for those two mistakes,fake as Hollywood love seens where stupid.
@lawrenceharrington3180
@lawrenceharrington3180 10 месяцев назад
Great Job on the Video... It makes sense to me... 👍🇺🇲✌️
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 10 месяцев назад
Thank you ^^
@brianfrawley1701
@brianfrawley1701 10 месяцев назад
Great job man 👨
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 10 месяцев назад
Thank you ^^
@jasonmckenzie2835
@jasonmckenzie2835 11 месяцев назад
Have you ever checked out Middle-earth Role Playing Game (MERP)? Wealth of lore in those books and it was a great game.
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 11 месяцев назад
Yes a bit. There si a lot of stuff in it, but I think not all is canon ^^
@UNKNOWN000247
@UNKNOWN000247 11 месяцев назад
I was wondering about something for quite sometime now. Who was leading the Dunedain after Arathorn died? Aragorn assumed command at age 2 or 3... Obviously someone else was in charge whilst Estel studied and grew?
@UNKNOWN000247
@UNKNOWN000247 11 месяцев назад
🤔Thinking about this has gotten me to lean towards the guess that Eladan and Elrohir lead for those 20 years or so..
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 11 месяцев назад
good question. I'm not aware that Tolkien wrote an explanation somewhere, but I could ne wrong. I could imagine that among the Dúnedain Rangers were other noble Lords. Those could have led the Dúnedain until Aragorn was old enough. There was for sure some "command" structure as well and ofc I think the Rangers were also not always together, with some exceptions. We know them holding Sarn Ford, etc. But that was also closer to war times and when Aragorn was old enough already. Most of the fighting later also happened elsewhere. So I could imagine they could live without the official leader in peace times for some time.
@coryallen6818
@coryallen6818 11 месяцев назад
Sweet!
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 11 месяцев назад
haha yes hope you like it ^^
@wisconsinatIon
@wisconsinatIon 10 месяцев назад
I've noticed a recurring error in your discussion of things: "prophetized" is not a word, you should be saying "prophesied." It is good old confusing English, after all. Thank you for all of your good work.
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 10 месяцев назад
Oh thank you for that hint. I guess it makes sense, because in my native language it's "prophezeien" though the Z is pronounced "ts" (prophet-saien), I assume I transferred that phonetic detail to English and made prophet + ized out of it, though even in German the Z sound is more a phonetic "quirk" and it's actually very similar to how it is in English. I try to say it correctly from now on 😄👍 Thanks again.
@jayt9608
@jayt9608 11 месяцев назад
I missed the invention of golf by Brandobras "Bullroarer" Took. Was that supposed to be in this video or the prior?
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 11 месяцев назад
yes that was previous video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-RmbMNEKPlvg.html
@jayt9608
@jayt9608 11 месяцев назад
@@ThePhilosophersGames Thanks!! I will look that up after while, I quite enjoyed this video.
@TETASARAIVACS
@TETASARAIVACS 10 месяцев назад
The explanation for the pronunciation of the name of Scatha the Worm eluded me
@lyannastark3839
@lyannastark3839 2 месяца назад
I find it hilarious that dragons were obsessed with kidnapping maidens. Did they taste better?
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 2 месяца назад
haha maybe 😂
@TETASARAIVACS
@TETASARAIVACS 10 месяцев назад
It’s quite interesting that Thrór’s Ring, one of the Seven, was very much like the Nine Rings, and was meant to gradually turn its bearer into a Ringwraith. But Dwarves don’t become Wraiths.
@jonahex1921
@jonahex1921 11 месяцев назад
First choice on middle earth lore, but we need more vids bro
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 11 месяцев назад
haha thank you ^^ Quality needs its time unfortunately. This year is a bit the year of video games. So I make also again some content there for the games channel + other projects.
@randyjh82
@randyjh82 10 месяцев назад
Uh, that was Thrain. Thorin Oakenshield was Thorin II
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 10 месяцев назад
Yes, Thorin Oakenshield is Thorin II. Did I make a mistake somewhere in the video?
@TooRh2
@TooRh2 11 месяцев назад
... kinda allways thought "smaug" was a rewrite/stole idè from the old saga abouth Siggurd Fafnìrbane... dont know tho..
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 11 месяцев назад
Yes there is for sure inspiration and Tolkien also mentions it in letter 122 from 1949: "I find 'dragons' a fascinating product of imagination. But I don't think the Beowulf one is frightfully good. But the whole problem of the intrusion of the 'dragon' into northern imagination and its transformation there is one I do not know enough about. Fafnir in the late Norse versions of the Sigurd-story is better; and Smaug and his conversation obviously is in debt there."
@Doc74827
@Doc74827 10 месяцев назад
I’m more interested in the period that leads to the period that lead to the Hobbit. And a few days I’ll be more interested in the one before that
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 10 месяцев назад
I got you covered then: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-RmbMNEKPlvg.html (the period that leads to the period that lead to the Hobbit) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-pb8RFPDxd3Q.html (the one before that) 😂 Or check the whole Playlist: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-YgQg_lZlnx0.html
@johnstevens9673
@johnstevens9673 11 месяцев назад
Has anyone ever told you that you have the fake perfect accent when discussing Tolkien's world.
@jontruss3781
@jontruss3781 10 месяцев назад
Has anyone considered how one guy created all this?
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 10 месяцев назад
Tolkien spent his whole life working on it (often in his free time) and that one life time was not enough, so there are still many things that are work in progress and unfinished. Plus he must have had an impressive ability to memorise things, because he did all of it on paper. Really impressive for sure.
@stevemitchell8631
@stevemitchell8631 10 месяцев назад
Indian red dot have no binders ..sell u some extended warranty in a heartbeat
@luisfer14240
@luisfer14240 11 месяцев назад
👍🏻
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 11 месяцев назад
Thank you ^^
@tylermorris9196
@tylermorris9196 10 месяцев назад
I love you
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 10 месяцев назад
haha 😄
@gandalf4751
@gandalf4751 11 месяцев назад
The Hobbit 😍😍😍
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 11 месяцев назад
The Hobbit is always a pretty interesting topic ^^
@stevenburkhardt1963
@stevenburkhardt1963 11 месяцев назад
I still say that pipeweed is really cannabis
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 11 месяцев назад
😅
@archivis
@archivis 11 месяцев назад
mmm.
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 11 месяцев назад
? ^^
@stevedawson378
@stevedawson378 11 месяцев назад
Your slides transition way too fast. Hard to keep up without pausing video.
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 11 месяцев назад
Yes I noticed while editing that some text stuff is on screen far too short and I tried to make it a bit longer in some cases it did not work well transition wise. I have to look into it again for the all in one version. Often though I explain what is written anyway and in the cases where not, I tried to keep the text longer ons screen or show the same text again later (there might be exceptions though). Would not worry too much about it. E.g. the Character info for Melkor and others will show up very often in the all in one version. So there should be enough time to read it all. But thank you for the hint. Hope I can improve that for the all-in-one version.
@ftqsplash2759
@ftqsplash2759 11 месяцев назад
Please fix the title it’s lead not let
@Keffinated
@Keffinated 11 месяцев назад
Actually, the past tense of "to lead" is "led" not "lead."
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 11 месяцев назад
yes meant to write "led" as @Keffinated write. Thanks for the hint! Much appreciated 👍 Hope you people liked the video. there might be tons of typos in it though 😅
@ftqsplash2759
@ftqsplash2759 11 месяцев назад
@@ThePhilosophersGames great video loved it
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 11 месяцев назад
awesome, glad you liked it ^^
@matt-xo2vr
@matt-xo2vr 10 месяцев назад
I never realize how antisemitic tolkien was until i was older.
@ThePhilosophersGames
@ThePhilosophersGames 10 месяцев назад
I assume you refer to the Dwarves in Tolkien's world and some common antisemitic stereotypes? Yes one can see Tolkien's descriptions as antisemitic, but it's not like there also exist different options on that. E.g. the source of the Dwarves greed is not fully inherent in them, but due to a magic ring they got gifted by somebody else (also created by somebody else). In one version the Longbeards (Durin's house) got their Ring even gifted by Celebrimbor, an Elf and not be Sauron. Further they are immune to being turned to wraiths or to the life prolonging effect. It can only fire up greed in them: "For the Dwarves had proved untameable by this means. The only power over them that the Rings wielded was to inflame their hearts with a greed of gold and precious things, so that if they lacked them all other good things seemed profitless, and they were filled with wrath and desire for vengeance on all who deprived them. But they were made from their beginning of a kind to resist most steadfastly any domination. Though they could be slain or broken, they could not be reduced to shadows enslaved to another will; and for the same reason their lives were not affected by any Ring, to live either longer or shorter because of it. All the more did Sauron hate the possessors and desire to dispossess them." - LotR, Appendix A There is an interesting answer Tolkien wrote to a German Publisher in Nazi Germany about publishing the Hobbit in Germany and if he was "arisch" (Letter 30): "Thank you for your letter. .... I regret that I am not clear as to what you intend by arisch. I am not of Aryan extraction: that is Indo-iranian; as far as I am aware none of my ancestors spoke Flindustani, Persian, Gypsy, or any related dialects. But if I am to understand that you are enquiring whether I am of Jewish origin, I can only reply that I regret that I appear to have no ancestors of that gifted people. My great-great-grandfather came to England in the eighteenth century from Germany: the main part of my descent is therefore purely English, and I am an English subject - which should be sufficient. [...]" Also I think that a part of that a quote of Tolkien regarding Dwarves and Jews is always ignored: "I do think of the 'Dwarves' like Jews: at once native and alien in their habitations, speaking the languages of the country, but with an accent due to their own private tongue....." - Letter 176 He focuses on two aspects of history and culture (" at once native and alien in their habitations") and "speaking the languages of the country, but with an accent due to their own private tongue" You can ofc argue that including some antisemitic stereotypes as well (esp. in this context) remains a problem and you would not be wrong. But at least the use is a bit more nuanced and Dwarves, immense stubbornness, are usually very positive figures in his world with a tragic story and you can definitely feel and understand their desires. Though ofc Thorin Oakenshield never possessed a Ring of Power and still want Erebor for himself, though he himself also seems him in a tough spot and Tolkien also places some nuance to that as well (conflict between Dwarves and Elves or lines like these "Though he had hunted chiefly for the Arkenstone, yet he had an eye for many another wonderful thing that was lying there, about which were wound old memories of the labours and the sorrows of his race" - The Hobbit, The Gathering of the Clouds). And the feud between Dwarves and Elves Tolkien even later kind of resolves with Gimli and Legolas (Legolas father Thranduil is most likely an Elf from Doriath, where the feud between Elves and Dwarves started).
@monkeytennis8861
@monkeytennis8861 9 месяцев назад
I think you might be confusing him with Roald Dahl, as you're talking complete drivel
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