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How did the Witch-king of Angmar bring an end to the kings in both Gondor and Arnor?
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@Chrisbi-Wan
@Chrisbi-Wan 2 года назад
It almost seems like The Witch King had a grudge against the numenorean line of kings - almost like he resented not being able to hold their position.
@johns1625
@johns1625 Год назад
He was Tar-Atanamir, the thirteenth King of Numenor
@ooofsized2036
@ooofsized2036 Год назад
More like the bitch king
@kckaz4453
@kckaz4453 4 месяца назад
@@johns1625 nah, M8. That cat died on the throne. Didn't fade into this like Mazzy Star.
@ThexVaultxTech
@ThexVaultxTech 4 месяца назад
I always believed be was a pretender to the throne of numenor hence the tongue in cheek name
@danepatterson8107
@danepatterson8107 2 года назад
Another thread from Arnor in the Witch King's death at Pellenor is that Merry's blade came from the Barrow-Downs (gathered and recognized, then given by Tom Bombadil upon freeing the Hobbits from the Great Barrow). The blade was Westernesse and was specifically crafted to combat the Witch King and his minions! It is the wound from Merry that temporarily incapacitates the Witch King enabling Eowyn's final blow.
@josephburgess3972
@josephburgess3972 2 года назад
Great observation! I wish that could have been done in the movies. One of the scenes I didn't like in the movies was the Witch King's "death". It just came across as kind of weak. The way it was presented was his overconfidence and being tricked is what did him in. They never mention the sword.
@twotubefamily9323
@twotubefamily9323 2 года назад
@@josephburgess3972 they did
@josephburgess3972
@josephburgess3972 2 года назад
@@twotubefamily9323 When? I don't recall.
@burkanarburky4447
@burkanarburky4447 2 года назад
@@josephburgess3972it´s only mentioned in the book
@christopherhicks8656
@christopherhicks8656 2 года назад
Well said! And I would go so far as to add... the fact that Bombadil is the one who arms them with those blades is significant in itself. To me, Bombadil represented Arda. He was "Father Nature", with Yavanna being "Mother Nature". She paints, he is the canvas. So, one could say that that was the planet itself, striking a blow against the forces of death and destruction. And that's all just my take on it. My own "pet theory" if you will.
@pippinisawesome52
@pippinisawesome52 11 месяцев назад
I absolutely love the Nazgûl and the Witch King. They’re probably the characters in Tolkien that I know the most about and I always get excited when they come up in conversation. That being said, your ending to this video relating the Shire to Rohan and tying all the strings together blew my mind!! I had NEVER put that together and it is so awesome! Thank you!!😱
@Allhailme121
@Allhailme121 Месяц назад
The smae
@similaritiesendhere
@similaritiesendhere 3 года назад
You forgot to mention that the dagger Merry stabs the Witch King with was a magical Arthedainian weapon. The Witch King was killed by a hobbit, a shield maiden AND an ancient Dunedain weapon potentially as powerful as Sting.
@benlowe1701
@benlowe1701 3 года назад
Not just any Barrow Weapon, but if it is indeed of from the Barrow of blade from the Barrow of the Last Prince of Cardolan, the Blade in question may have been specifically forged to kill wraiths, or even the Witch King himself. This blade rendered the Witch King vulnerable.
@Andulvar
@Andulvar 2 года назад
Sorry, but powerful weapons tend to do more than just stab things. Tolken never wrote about magical weapons doing more than lighting up a room. You can do the same with a potato and an LED.
@similaritiesendhere
@similaritiesendhere 2 года назад
@@Andulvar You can look this up in The Hobbit for yourself. The daggers Tom Bombadil gave the hobbits were enchanted with Numenorean (dunedain) runes to counter the Witch King's magic. I'm not going to sit here and argue with someone who can't understand Tolkien's simplest book (The Hobbit). God help you if you ever read The Silmirillion.
@similaritiesendhere
@similaritiesendhere 2 года назад
@@Andulvar You can bind powerful magic to items with runes, songs, and words in Tolkien: Sauron's ring, Gates of Moria, "You shall not pass.", undead army's curse, Frodo cursing Gollum, creation of Arda, etc Take your ass back to the Encyclopedia of Arda website and don't touch a keyboard until you know what you're talking about. You don't understand these books at all.
@similaritiesendhere
@similaritiesendhere 2 года назад
@@Andulvar "Tolkien never wrote about magical weapons doing more than lighting up a room." Really? Didn't the ring wraiths have magical weapons that turned people into wraiths if they were stabbed? This is basic shit you could've gotten just from the movies.
@lynnerose7891
@lynnerose7891 2 года назад
Tolkien is SUCH a masterful writer. Nobody has ever touched his work.
@mikehawkhovers9872
@mikehawkhovers9872 2 года назад
Except Amazon
@thharrimw
@thharrimw 2 года назад
@@mikehawkhovers9872 they touched it like a bad uncle
@aSSGoblin1488
@aSSGoblin1488 2 года назад
i really like the concept of a thousand year saga and an evil that bides its time... BUT the logical part of my brain says that don't these human fools develop gunpowder or the internal combustion engine in the meantime ? cannons and pike formations in the 1500's would make short work of the Witch King. just saying no shade. i love myths and stories like LoR but the sheer amount of time one would argue humanity could have nuked Sauron, the elves and orcs alltogether and humans would be the only dudes left. Jesus was born and 2000 years passed and we went from organized melee and cavalry armies of the romans to anti materiel drone tech, self learning algorithms and guided artillery shells. the humans surely have been sleeping in the LoR world lol. honestly think Subutai's army can take any army the LoR world can muster
@pissoffeachother
@pissoffeachother 2 года назад
@@aSSGoblin1488 well no. 1500AD there was a LONG time humans waged war before 1500. You could say 10,000 years before. Actual human history DWARFS Tolkiens writing and we were pretty content with killing each other with sticks and stones for most of it.
@gangetabellen
@gangetabellen 2 года назад
@@thharrimw Didn't turn out all too bad tbf
@GreatGreebo
@GreatGreebo 2 года назад
I will never get tired of hearing about Middle Earth. Every detail is fascinating and to think that ONE amazing man created it all. Wow.
@mygetawayart
@mygetawayart 2 года назад
Everything Tolkien writes has the power of being so satisfactory. From the great glories of ages past, to their eventual downfalls only to be saved by the unlikeliest of friends, and the more backstory you know, the more those moments have an impact. At the end of the day, Éowyn and Merry's combined action and Aragorn's coronation have 1% of the weight without this backstory. LOTR just a satisfactory ending to it all.
@brendanschwartz2198
@brendanschwartz2198 2 года назад
The part where it all comes full circle at the end actually gave me chills lol
@nilubensonofnimruzir1637
@nilubensonofnimruzir1637 2 года назад
It's interesting to note that the force that Gondor had sent north to deal with the Witch-king under Eärnur, the same one that filled the Grey Havens, Forlond and Harlond, and was considered by the Men and Elves of Eriador to be a massive army intended for a war between great kingdoms, was considered to be a small force by Gondor's standards, a mere fraction of Gondor's power. Which just goes to show how powerful Gondor was (even after centuries of decline) and how low Arnor had fallen at that point.
@concept5631
@concept5631 Год назад
Sauron: Gondor OP plz nerf
@SusanWojcickiTheBolshevik
@SusanWojcickiTheBolshevik Год назад
@@concept5631 Go play RuneScape nerd
@concept5631
@concept5631 Год назад
@@SusanWojcickiTheBolshevik Maybe, nerd.
@SusanWojcickiTheBolshevik
@SusanWojcickiTheBolshevik Год назад
@@concept5631 I just run around tempting people with good times 😂
@concept5631
@concept5631 Год назад
@@SusanWojcickiTheBolshevik Fair
@jessewilliams9195
@jessewilliams9195 2 года назад
I never made the connection of the Dunedain's allies avenging the death of their kings by the Witch King. Cool.
@daniell1483
@daniell1483 2 года назад
I just finished reading Fellowship of the Ring for the first time and it really strike me how the Black Riders are the principal agents of Sauron. All through the lands of Arnor, we see ruins of a once-great civilization, and the folk there, human and hobbit, pay it little attention. It is like they don't see that they are living in a graveyard, one largely engineered by the Witch King. It really makes me wonder what the Witch King's relationship with Sauron was like. Obviously, he was a servant of Sauron, but I kind of wonder if Sauron saw the Witch King as his strong right hand or if he disrespected the Witch King.
@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051
@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051 2 года назад
Probably wariness, Sauron was the right-hand man of Morgoth and the Witch-King was the nazgul with arguably the most free-will, paranoia was the main feeling Sauron felt at all times.
@mygetawayart
@mygetawayart 2 года назад
If you live in culturally important places, you'll find yourself passing by the signs of a civilization you barely know, which once stood with glory on the steps you're treading but is now wrapped by weeds and half-destroyed.
@Charles-A
@Charles-A 2 года назад
Bet they were pals and called themselves by nicknames like Ron for sauron and Angy for the witch king of Angmar.
@FranciscoPetrucioJunior
@FranciscoPetrucioJunior Год назад
@@Charles-A best headcanon ever
@AlexMackenzie-nx5qq
@AlexMackenzie-nx5qq 10 месяцев назад
He has no choice but beSauron's puppet he's under control of the one ring, if he got hold of it he might then think I could keep this and make Sauron my bitch
@jayt9608
@jayt9608 2 года назад
Much of the details I knew, but it was the links between the details that made it so very fascinating. For instance Merry is the heir of the Master of Buckland. This and the Thain of the Tooks were the closest to noble/royal offices of hereditary descent in the Shire. Thus the Witch-King was killed by the next closest thing to kings that Rohan and the Shire had. Further Pippin, as the heir of the Thain, is both the inspiration for the battle that draws the Nazgul Lord to his demise, but is directly responsible for preserving the line of the Stewards so that they could fulfill at the very last their sacred trust. Without it being said, there are also the concerted efforts of Frodo, Sam, and Gollum as further representatives of the Hobbits who unseat the Dark Lord himself who had for two ages overlooked the future allies of his greatest foes. Did not Galdalf rightly say that the Shire was a center of Power, though of a different type than men, elves, and dwarves considered, and is it also then of no surprise that a Gardner such as Tom Bombadil would choose to live so near a land given to such a pastoral lifestyle?
@Rellana1
@Rellana1 Год назад
He said that their was Power to resist the Nazgul,but it was of a different kind to the power that the elf-lords at Rivendell possessed,as they had been to The Blessed Lands and had been allowed to return to Middle-earth,and having dwelled in The Blessed Lands granted them great power against both the Seen and Unseen.
@vinylsolution2522
@vinylsolution2522 9 месяцев назад
Great analysis, absolutely rings true.
@nicktwyford
@nicktwyford 4 года назад
There's something quite satisfying about the fact the nature of the threat changes proportionately with each age, from (like you said) Valar to Maiar to possible Numenorean. I also like how it seems to match their opposition in these ages, which I suppose could be broadly grouped into elves (first age), elves/numenoreans (second age) and men (third age.) Thanks though, have had lots of question about this period, glad to see them engaged with!
@tolkienuntangled
@tolkienuntangled 4 года назад
I think you're spot on with that. I guess you can tell a lot about the nature of each Age by looking at the great Enemy that it inspires!
@TheDeadlyKnight
@TheDeadlyKnight 3 года назад
Good observation. It gives this mythos a fitting scale throughout the unfolding mythology
@Looshmal
@Looshmal 2 года назад
My take exactly. Possibly the proof that Hobbits are "Men" which brings about all sorts of questions about their time in Valinor before going to Mandos then into The Timeless Halls. What a fantastic video and comment! Thank you both!
@rotwang2000
@rotwang2000 2 года назад
When you look at the history of the Dunedain, Arnor and Gondor, it's a slow decline, punctuated by devastating losses and the odd king or steward who manages at best to buy time or maintain some kind of status quo until the next disaster. Aragorn really turns back that tide. He's not just another "good king who ruled wisely until the end of his days" He's the first real winner in nearly 3000 years and even then Tolkien figured that it probably would start to turn sour again right after he cashes in his gift of men.
@thomaswalsh4552
@thomaswalsh4552 2 года назад
Aragorn wasn’t some perfect, amazing king who was responsible for pushing back the tide of darkness; he just happened to be crowned days after the final defeat of Sauron and the nazgul, witch king included, and that was only a few days after a major defeat for the armies of harad. The main proponents of evil were finished in a very definitive and permanent way, and the remaining antagonists had just suffered a major defeat, and so were easy to force into allegiance, especially because of the now more active than ever military alliance between Gondor and Rohan. Aragorn was great, but the timing of his reign was amazingly lucky. Literally could not have chosen a better time in the entire history of middle earth.
@nilubensonofnimruzir1637
@nilubensonofnimruzir1637 2 года назад
While that might be the case for Arnor, that certainly isn't the case for its southern counterpart, at least in the first half of its existence. After the end of the Second Age Gondor grew rich and powerful, and it expanded its territory east, west, north and south. It was the dominant power in Middle-earth for centuries, and peoples from the Vales of Anduin down to the kingdoms of Harad swore fealty to them and were their tributaries; the Winged Crown of Gondor was 'held in awe by people of many lands and tongues'. It was really only their own hubris and idleness (after subjugating half of Northwestern Middle-earth, that is) that led to their downward spiral.
@gangetabellen
@gangetabellen 2 года назад
@@thomaswalsh4552 The timing of his reign was in no small part driven by Aragorn himself, he did play a rather active part in his ascension to the throne
@Owlr4ider
@Owlr4ider 2 месяца назад
@@thomaswalsh4552 Aragorn was instrumental in the defeat of said evil and in essence to his own ascension to the throne. He wasn't just some random heir to the kingdom that was put on the throne by some council of scholars, he was an active participant in his own ascension. A very humble one at that who refused the throne initially, and his old identity at that, and instead went by the ominous Strider, hiding his entire identity while humbly being a ranger of the north guarding what remains of the free people against the forces of the enemy. Also what you attribute to luck is much more accurately portrayed as Gandalf's plan, as it was Gandalf who set this chain of events in motion in order to achieve this specific result.
@TheDeadlyKnight
@TheDeadlyKnight 3 года назад
King Earnur & his knightly escort I suspect were Shelob’s last meal of “sweeter meats” in the 3rd age.
@samueljones5421
@samueljones5421 2 года назад
These videos are just perfect, I find myself rewatching them over and over
@AgentFX
@AgentFX 2 года назад
I love that battle for middle earth rise of the witch king tells this story in a somewhat true to the source fashion. One of my favourite single player campaigns.
@brandynharter23
@brandynharter23 2 года назад
They really need to come out with a new rts game. I really miss playing it.
@paolopesare3566
@paolopesare3566 Год назад
​@@brandynharter23try BFME mods! Age of the Ring is beautiful and looks like a completely new game
@marydunlap5213
@marydunlap5213 2 года назад
Dude! Loving this. Been a fan Tolkien for over 40 years. Keep it coming awesome.
@DeathBYDesign666
@DeathBYDesign666 2 года назад
He's roughly the equivalent to Sauron what Sauron was to Morgoth, so he should be regarded as the third dark lord in my opinion. He commanded even the other Nazgul while Sauron was little more than a spirit being, he was more bound to saurons ring than he was to Sauron himself. I wonder what would have happened had he put on the ring himself, would he have manifested the powers of Sauron or would he become an avatar of Sauron?
@sweeperboy
@sweeperboy 2 года назад
Yes, that's a very good question actually. Had the Nazgul been successful at catching the Fellowship, it may well have been the Witch King from the evildoers who first held the Ring...would he have been able to overcome the chains of his thraldom to Sauron to claim it for himself or was he so much a puppet that he would have carried it all the way back to Mordor?
@DeathBYDesign666
@DeathBYDesign666 2 года назад
@@sweeperboy I was thinking that there might be no need to bring it to Mordor, after all could a spirit even hold the ring? I'm not sure how it would work and perhaps all Sauron needed was for one of the wraith to put the ring on themselves and he would manifest through them. Maybe that's what he was counting on in the first place because he presumably chose each one of them for their lust for greater power, I don't think they are slaves as much as they are willful servants to the promise of greater power.
@Jasonsoloka2024
@Jasonsoloka2024 2 года назад
@@DeathBYDesign666 in the books he was a wraith not an eyeball
@DeathBYDesign666
@DeathBYDesign666 2 года назад
@@Jasonsoloka2024 I didn't catch this reply but I believe that I mentioned that he was a spirit being, more or less the exact same thing as a wraith and I know I never mentioned him as an eye. I see what you meant, but he wasn't capable of the same amount of physical interaction as the nazgul. Wraith is kind of a broad definition that includes many types of spirit beings, even in the books from what I recall.
@DeathBYDesign666
@DeathBYDesign666 2 года назад
@James Davis That's more semantics than anything though, he was probably the highest and most powerful being in middle earth at the time. Was sauron actively giving orders through him or was he just acting in his master's interests? These questions are not answered and one could say the same about Sauron and Morgoth. Technically he was a slave to the ring not to Sauron himself, Sauron was much less without possession of it as he poured most of himself into it.
@kylejenkins1401
@kylejenkins1401 4 года назад
Just want to say how much I love your channel. These videos are amazing. I always find myself checking for new ones. Keep up the great work, and thank you!
@tolkienuntangled
@tolkienuntangled 4 года назад
Thanks for your lovely words! I'm really glad you enjoy the videos. There will be a new one every week for at least the next six weeks.
@ryanabate1981
@ryanabate1981 2 года назад
Get your lips off his butt. These videos are okay, not great cause he is so bias for his favorite characters and our shows when he misrepresents certain characters.
@fabioeberlin7504
@fabioeberlin7504 Год назад
I know this video has almost a year. But just watched it and Sir, thank you, it gave me the chills as I've always liked this part of the Middle-earth history...and the ending? Just perfect. Thank you very much.
@tolkienuntangled
@tolkienuntangled Год назад
Awesome! I'm very glad you enjoyed it!
@astrogypsy
@astrogypsy 2 года назад
You put that narrative together quite well. Thx.
@johns1625
@johns1625 Год назад
The Witch King is Tar-Atanamir, the 13th king of Numenor. When the 9 rings began to turn their bearers into wraiths, it is said they suffered terrible visions and began to fade and disappear, reappearing weeks or years later. Tar-Atanamir disappeared completely and his son was crowned before his own funeral service. He suffered terrible visions and disappeared for weeks at a time. It fits exactly and is the only one it really COULD be.
@broganrwells
@broganrwells Год назад
Where that from??? Cool as hell
@Cloudrunner62
@Cloudrunner62 Год назад
I’m sorry, but I just looked him up. Tar-Atanamir did no such thing. He remained king until he died at the age of 421. Nothing about him vanishing. I must ask if you got that from the Shadow video games? Those are great games, but inaccurate lore wise.
@lecktmich6780
@lecktmich6780 10 месяцев назад
A mighty Numenorian Lord in one of their mainland territories seems more likely. It is told that Numenorians were very mighty rulers in Middleearth. The Kingsman also were extremly brutal and interested in gold and might. In their will to be like the elves it is also very likely that they tried themselve in magic. So while Sauron also was in his fair form it is very likely that he had found allies within the Numenorians and also teached them (like the Mouth of Sauron; also a so called Black Numenorian so a descendant of Kingsmen)
@Omizuke
@Omizuke 2 года назад
That roundabout way was awesome. When you mention that Argeleb II gave the land that bacame the Shire. I'm like ohh Merry. Then when you mention Calenardon, I'm like, "wait, Rohan?" when you confirm it I couldn't stop smiling thinking of Eowyn. And how she and Pipping dealt with the Witch-king.
@serpent645
@serpent645 2 года назад
I've only become aware of your channel a few days ago. I've subscribed and set up for all notifications. I have to say, you can sure tell the story, thanks!
@nightdriver7216
@nightdriver7216 2 года назад
I really like the idea of the Witch-King actually being a major player with interests at stake. Shadow of War is non-canon but, in that game, the Witch-King tempts the human protagonist throughout the game to join the Nazgûl for some unspecified reason. One could wonder if, also in canon, the Witch-King had some elaborate plan to eventually overtake Sauron as the Dark Lord. After all, Men joined Sauron because they were seduced by the opportunity of power and immortality the Rings presented to them, and maybe the Witch-King saw that he could do "more" than just being Sauron's general, perhaps even out of resentment.
@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051
@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051 2 года назад
Yeah and despite his name, he probably wasn't a king before becoming a nazgul.
@jdatkin8601
@jdatkin8601 2 года назад
I'd like to thank you for your work, particularly this video on my favourite character. I'd also like to thank you for saving me a hell of a lot of time. I follow a lot of Tolkien pages and love every one however always wanted to listen to something more conversational. As they say; if you can't find what you want, make it. I was just prepping early scripts for a RU-vid channel chatting about Tolkien lore when I stumbled across your page. This is exactly what I wanted to enjoy, a conversation with a friend about the deep nerdery of Tolkien. I look forwards to going through your back catalogue of videos and to enjoy new content as and when it is available.
@tolkienuntangled
@tolkienuntangled 2 года назад
Thanks! I'm really glad you enjoy the videos.
@freshhands9461
@freshhands9461 Год назад
Just decided that I might like the history of Arnor and the North the most. So few words, yet such an awesome piece of worldbuilding. Epic, melancholy and well integrated into the bigger picture.
@wolfgang4043
@wolfgang4043 2 года назад
The way you narrate is great! Thank you for your work!
@Laucron
@Laucron Год назад
Amazing lore and video aside, I really feel like we should give props to the concept designers of the movies on giving both Sauron and the Witch King such iconic and interesting designs. The helmet of the witch king is something that sticks with you for years and years, somehow. Absolutely beautiful
@christopherhicks8656
@christopherhicks8656 2 года назад
It's SUCH a powerful statement. And one I hadn't connected the dots on, myself. Here you have these two mighty powers, grappling for thousands of years, neither being able to fully end the other. And what finally ends it, for good (double entendre intended ;)), is a pair of heartfelt gifts... one to a newly arrived people in need, and the other to a loyal ally. Through those simple actions, given with no thought for anything other than doing what was right and just, all the machinations of the Witch-king were finally brought to nothing. ...if that ain't PURE Tolkien, I don't know what is. Thanks for this!
@CalridRobnor123srs
@CalridRobnor123srs 2 года назад
Sauron is of course smart, but as a general of Sauron the Witchking is a genius. How he sowed the seeds of destruction in the realms that once were Arnor was, just a mastery of techniques of attrition. Patient tactics, something Sauron and of Course Morgoth didn't seem to use, they seemed to use more brute force.
@CalridRobnor123srs
@CalridRobnor123srs 2 года назад
I think as well The Kingodom of Rohan is most closley related to the English, I know that's a controversial thing, but the fact their native tongue is Anglo Saxon, Tolkiens forté of course suggests, he though very deeply about sundered kingdoms by other realms in the history of The English. The Danelands will without. Of course at the end of the day it's fantasy, and nothing relates to the real wrold, but you cannot doubt the real world related to Tolkien.
@lecktmich6780
@lecktmich6780 10 месяцев назад
Then you forget the downfall of Numenor. Because Sauron defeated Numenor only by himself. Starting as a captured enemy. Also in the first age Sauron used spells and magic for example songs of power. Which is not brute force.
@lopirobinson1991
@lopirobinson1991 3 года назад
The Witch King is one of the baddest, most wicked right hands of evil ever! Sauron’s black sword, herald of doom. Fitting that, like Sauron was to Morgoth, The Witch King is to Sauron, only totally enslaved.
@AzoiatheCobra
@AzoiatheCobra 2 года назад
The Witchking was a better right hand to Sauron than what Sauron was to Morgoth... not that Sauron was a bad right hand mind you, but he had more competiton with Glaurung and Gothmog as a right hand...
@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051
@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051 2 года назад
@@AzoiatheCobra Khamul was the rival for the Witch King, we just didn't hear about his accomplishments because Tolkien didn't wrote about the eastern lands.
@banymany7444
@banymany7444 2 года назад
Crazy of how much Tolkien wrote about his world...
@jargalmaamh915
@jargalmaamh915 4 года назад
beautiful contents , keep going :) Btw, Have you read all of Tolkien`s writings?
@tolkienuntangled
@tolkienuntangled 4 года назад
Thanks! I've read everything in Tolkien's Legendarium, and most of his non-legendarium works like Roverandom and Beowulf, although there's definitely still more to be read :)
@flexplodin
@flexplodin 2 года назад
@@tolkienuntangled Enjoy the content, however stop overusing "so" for transitions. Your personality is at an 8 when 6 (neutral but human) would strike a broader demographic better. It also seems like you are making your sexuality (rainbow) part of your brand which will result in less return viewers. I'm honestly trying to help, cause everyone has blind spots. Also, there are people like me but are a little less interested and would stop at 1 video.
@thezerowulf2046
@thezerowulf2046 2 года назад
@@flexplodin I feel like you are the type of person to someone on a bus and be their life coach..
@rubycube1506
@rubycube1506 4 месяца назад
You're an amazing storyteller and your knowledge about Tolkien and his universe... wow, my mind is blown. Thank you for sharing such deep insight with us. ❤
@oleksandrpertsiukh3204
@oleksandrpertsiukh3204 2 года назад
It's a crime that you have so few subs. Amazing job
@scuzzymcticklish199
@scuzzymcticklish199 2 года назад
Can you include your sources in the description? I’d love to read further, thanks in advance! Subscribed
@tolkienuntangled
@tolkienuntangled 2 года назад
Pretty much all the information for this video came from Appendix A of the Lord of the Rings.
@simonmorris4226
@simonmorris4226 2 года назад
And the moral of this tale is never mess with a northern lass!
@charlesmurray1220
@charlesmurray1220 2 года назад
Fantastic! No pun intended. I've viewed about 10 of your presentations. Helpful and informing. What I had in the 1980's was a book, a guide, like a glossary, to help me dig deeper and understand better. Wish you were (and RU-vid) were around in 1984.
@jeremiahalonzo
@jeremiahalonzo 2 года назад
I think a Witch-King is a king the same way a Witch-Doctor is a doctor. Aint no witch doctors that are MDs.
@undeadaeon9992
@undeadaeon9992 2 года назад
Md in theology
@oscarstainton
@oscarstainton 2 года назад
A very thorough and engaging video, you make a convincing case for the Witch King being the true menace for the majority of the Third Age. I have been fascinated with Angmar since first reading about it, and the implication that this was a functioning realm with its ruler named a king and a shadowy reflection of Arnor, spreading fear, doubt and mistrust throughout the north. If it was a mannish kingdom with orcs as the backbone of the army, that’s certainly a creepy idea.
@williamerickson520
@williamerickson520 2 года назад
Awesome video. I love hearing about the in-universe history of Middle Earth. I’ve drawn a lot of inspiration for my own story world.
@victorianguyen6620
@victorianguyen6620 4 месяца назад
Dave I thoroughly enjoyed this! My first time listening. Learned a lot!😊
@Fenris77
@Fenris77 2 года назад
Great lore video. You have such a great voice for telling a story also. Great work. I liked how you explained that the final end of the Witchking came through a union of sorts from a Rohirrim shieldmaiden and a Hobit of the Shire who's ancestors had been gifted those lands. Poetic actually The final reckoning for Arnor and the line of kings against Angmar.
@donmac4239
@donmac4239 2 года назад
Wow, what a great video about the Witch King. I don't know if I missed it, but Glorfindel's prophecy of the Witch King's downfall would have been a great inclusion during Earnur's battle and would tie up the end nicely.
@no-jb8kp
@no-jb8kp 2 года назад
dude I bet the development of the witch king would make a great series or movie !!
@lefthook4878
@lefthook4878 2 года назад
Tolkien was a freaking genius
@maoaya
@maoaya 18 дней назад
The Witch-king fled mid-laugh as he saw Glorfindel riding towards them~ 😊
@davidthetraveler1466
@davidthetraveler1466 Год назад
It's kind of interesting, when you look at it, how many dominoes there are in the story of the Third Age that ultimately end up aligning so precisely as to see about the end of both Sauron and the Witch King. It's another one of the reasons I love the Legendarium so much. Everything is connected, like a woven mesh of threads in a single grand tapestry of fate. Displace one thread, one knot, one single point where two threads cross, join, or separate, and the entire picture could be irrevocably changed.
@rockokodude
@rockokodude 4 года назад
thank you rainbow dave for another yet wonderful narration of the witch king of angmar's reign of terror, its sad tho in a happy way to see him die, not battling a great knight or king, but killed by a lady and a hobbit, which sauron his master wud not be happy about...also i always thot that the last king of arnor that marched and never returned....became of the ring-wraiths as well, were there already 6 or 9 then?
@deplorablekunt
@deplorablekunt 2 года назад
Not bringing down this video or anything, but I never thought of the Witch King as any more than a tool to be used by Sauron.
@Randerson2409
@Randerson2409 2 года назад
Just discovered this channel, and am binging videos now. Really enjoying it so far. Also, what is the greeting you start off your videos with? From the channel content, I'm assuming it is some form of Elvish? If anyone knows, I'd appreciate it!
@lobearden5723
@lobearden5723 2 года назад
I literally adore your videos, Coat of Many Colors David! You amazing my man!
@tolkienuntangled
@tolkienuntangled 2 года назад
Thanks so much! I'm really glad you enjoy the videos!
@dronesclubhighjinks
@dronesclubhighjinks Год назад
I was really enjoying this video up until I realized that this is one of the most incredibly, fabulously, satisfying videos I have ever seen! Enjoying is far too mild a word. 😄 The turning point was when you said the King gave his allies - these two brothers who happened to be hobbits - the land which became the Shire. And then the Steward, 1000 years later, gave his allies the land that became known as Rohan. And that is where my mind exploded 🤯 as it made the connection that descendants of the allies who were rewarded with land came together to defeat the Witch King! 🥳 When you mentioned earlier how the Witch King taunted the last King, whose horse ran away, I thought, "I bet when the Witch King descended on the Pelennor Fields in front of the King of Rohan, he casually assumed it was going to be business as usual. He thought: 'Either the King's horse will run away, or I'll kill him, but either way, this is a cakewalk of a victory. It'll be super easy, barely an inconvenience. Then I'll kill the old wizard, sack the city, and be home in time for tea. Good thing it's not raining. I hate it when my armour gets rusty. Well, The Eye will be pleased. I hope he will reward me with some fancy cakes this afternoon. And I'll give my fell beast that new chew toy he's been wanting. He's such a good boy!'" My Schadenfreude reaches an all-time high when I savour the delicious irony of Merry the hobbit of the Shire, and Éowyn the no-man-is-she of Rohan destroying him - with the big cherry on top being that Merry's dagger, found in the Barrow Downs, was made by the Witch King's ancient enemies... incredibly satisfying! I love this video! Thank you! ❤
@jbbryson8047
@jbbryson8047 2 года назад
Stunning artwork and brilliant content
@dirkstegemann9413
@dirkstegemann9413 2 года назад
So when did it become common knowledge to the Free Peoples that the Witch-King of Angmar was indeed one of the nine Nazgûl? My guess would be the following: 1) Witch-King encounters and mocks Eärnur on the battlefield at Fornost 2) The Nazgûl conquer Minat Ithil 3) From Minas Ithil, the leader of the Nazgûl challanges Eärnur and references the encounter at Fornost -> Thus Eärnur realizes that it’s the Witch-King who took Minas Ithil. What do you think?
@OmegaPrimeChannel
@OmegaPrimeChannel 2 года назад
Awesome channel bro. Keep the good work 👏👏👏
@jdrvargo287
@jdrvargo287 Год назад
This kind of character history videos really put into perspective what unlikely heroes folk like Merry, Eowyn, Sam and Frodo were. Sauron and the Witch King spent so much time battling mighty warriors, great kings and legendary heroes, yet not by such hands do they fall. They fall to those whose who were unknowns to the great events of the world. If Sauron and the Witch King ever imagined their own fall, they probably pictured falling to a legendary elven warrior or someone of Numenorean blood. Never by Hobbits or a woman who had never been in pitched battle before.
@baabashop
@baabashop Год назад
5:49 "only one thing has been long known about this horrid foe, my Lord: the dude is patient"
@nophdcoyote3635
@nophdcoyote3635 10 месяцев назад
So powerful and in wisdom is Tom, that it is conceivable that he could have blessed the weapons in the barrow downs and they may not have been pre enchanted.
@rodgerbane3825
@rodgerbane3825 2 года назад
I guess being a Wraith makes one patient. Not like you've got a lot of good parties to go to.
@arezdracul8650
@arezdracul8650 4 года назад
Angmar? Where is that on the LOTR map? Also, I would like to know where did the Hobits originate from and where did Gulum find the one ring.
@tolkienuntangled
@tolkienuntangled 4 года назад
It's right up in the frozen north. Where the Misty Mountains begin.
@sweeperboy
@sweeperboy 2 года назад
To answer the last point, Smeagol (Gollum) found the One Ring in the Anduin, to the east of the Misty Mountains (in Rhovanion). The Hobbits probably came from this side as there are references to them later crossing the Misty Mountains to eventually get to the Shire and a couple of other areas in Eriador.
@jamesrosales89
@jamesrosales89 2 года назад
really really good video thankyou ! so insightful and helps me piece it all together
@mojojojoslyfoxharris
@mojojojoslyfoxharris 4 месяца назад
Now this would be an interesting spin-off show that I would love to see! Focus a TV show on the life of the Witch-King/Kingdom of Arnor when he makes his return to Angmar because he was ordered by a then weakened Sauron to destroy the Kingdom of Arnor: 1st season > How the Witch-King rallies the Hillmen/orcs to his cause and how he like Sauron corrupts the region of Rhudaur to him. Ultimately, war is declared and the Witch King successfully kills the Arnor king at Weathertop and believes victory is in his grasp. However, Elrond & Cirdan rally to the call of Arnor and defeat the Witch-King in the first battle of Fornost. Even though defeated, the Witch King says he's immortal, so he can wait hundreds of years to wage this war. 2nd season > Starts with the Witch King's curse of the Barrow-downs to weaken the realm of Cardolan. Consequently, the Arnor king calls for aid from Gondor knowing the Witch King will attack Fornost again. The Witch King successfully conquers Fornost and the Arnor king dies in the snowy realm of Forochel. However, the season ends with the combined army of Gondor landing, rallying with Elrond, Glordindel, and Cirdan to expel the Witch-King from Arnor forever. 3rd season > How the Witch King is defeated by the combined army, but he has his "coward" moment with Earnur before fleeing back to Mordor. Although defeated, Sauron assures him that he succeeded in his mission because the only remnant of Arnor left were the Dunedain Rangers. Consequently, he makes him the Lord of the Nazgul and has them unite forces to capture the city of Minas Ithil to turn it eventually into Minas Morgul. The show ends with his duel of King Earnur and while eager to attack Gondor after this, a weakened Sauron orders the Nazgul to bide their time until the One Ring has been found again, so until that happened, build their army and forces to be ready once that happens. I just think it would be very interesting & unique to focus a show where you have a villain as the main character of it, we learn more about the Nazgul themselves, their Black Breath, get Glorfindel & Cirdan finally involved on the big screen, and more Elrond time. I find the Witch King's story interesting because even though he might have been defeated on face value, he still managed to achieve success in the grand scheme, and that's how he probably rose to become the leader of the Nazgul and Sauron's most trusted & deadliest servant.
@evanseekins517
@evanseekins517 2 года назад
Still the coolest name of anybody in any of the epic fantasy worlds I'd say.
@slidvonjunzt7608
@slidvonjunzt7608 2 года назад
THe witch kings helmet kinda looks like a cross between the Soulfly symbol/logo and the COC skull logo! ;'D
@SirCodyHimself
@SirCodyHimself 2 года назад
I'm a year late and I just started watching your vids but are you speaking elfish around 1min in? That's cool as heck
@MiKeY04TMNT
@MiKeY04TMNT 2 года назад
I loved this video. Got your self a new sub. Always appreciate the lore of Tolkien.
@tolkienuntangled
@tolkienuntangled 2 года назад
Thanks! I'm really glad you enjoyed it.
@itayshorek6872
@itayshorek6872 2 года назад
awesome video!! thanks a lot! love the knowledge, energy and everything! just one request if i may: could you *not* use any pictures/videos from the lotr movies? i think it`s way better to use the art that leaves more place for imagination and your words AND i dont know how it is for others, but i watch the films every few years hoping i forget enough to enjoy it more. watching parts of it in those tolkien videos sucks for me thanks again!
@groszoh
@groszoh 2 года назад
Hello LOTR enthusiasts, I actually thought that this video would deal with the 2nd Age sources of the Nazgul and the Witch King. The Akallabeth (the Downfall of Numenor) mentions that Numenoreans began settling in Middle Earth quite early in the Second Age as part of the expansion of the Numenorean Ship-Kings - first ships around 600 SA. Sauron was still capable of hiding his evil persona and it is likely that he was able to seduce a number of the Numenoreans even at this early stage, probably around 1000 SA, when he begins the building of Barad Dur. In the Tale of Years, Appendix B of LOTR, it is noted that the Elves of Eregion begin the forging of Rings of Power around year 1500 SA. Celebrimbor made the 3 rings without Sauron's involvement, so they must have been instructed by Sauron before this time. This gives us the time framework in which Sauron must have created the rings which he then gave to the Dwarves and what must have been some princes of Numenor, ie. some time between 1000 and 1500 of the SA. Sauron forges the One Ring in 1600 in Orodruin, initiating the war with the Eldar of Middle Earth. Eriador is overrun by Sauron, and the Men and Elves are only saved by the arrival of the large Numenorean fleet of Tar Minastir in 1700. Sauron is only driven out of Eriador, however, and still maintains his power in the East. The Tale of Years notes the first appearance of the Nazgul in 2251, and they only "go into the shadows" when Isildur takes the Ruling Ring from Sauron. End of SA. At around 1050 of the Third Age (TA) a shadow falls on Greenwood and it begins to be called Mirkwood. Dol Guldur is identified as a stronghold of evil by the Eldar and Istari (wizards) in 1100 TA, and they suspect that it is the Nazgul. The Nazgul reappear openly in 1300, and the Chief of them moves North to Angmar, though he may not have been identified at this stage as the Witch King. PS. I would love to fill in the time gaps which the above summary brings to light but this is all I got
@christianmorales3339
@christianmorales3339 3 года назад
This guy had no chance against Noldor High Kings sense his name is king beaker. I bet you Feanor or Fingolfin would've broke him... Or Finarfin
@sweeperboy
@sweeperboy 2 года назад
I think that's a given, since the Witch King could not overcome Glorfindel.
@pongpong1214
@pongpong1214 2 года назад
Bro you are so good at story telling🔥much love
@tolkienuntangled
@tolkienuntangled 2 года назад
Thanks! Much love.
@brucemcbain3150
@brucemcbain3150 Год назад
Very well done! Adding a juvenile comment, Argeleb is mentioned at 08:51, and he is re-named "Arglebargle IV" in National Lampoon's classic adaptation, "Bored of the Rings."
@ashkanminaei3830
@ashkanminaei3830 2 года назад
Tolkien was a legend and is the world he created also
@miguelvieyra7270
@miguelvieyra7270 2 года назад
Numenorian kings probably referencing the black Numenorian kings of Umbar, maybe even further south or east as well.
@darricktucker3401
@darricktucker3401 Год назад
Awesome as usual homie
@andreaantonel2722
@andreaantonel2722 Год назад
" But [emphatic pause] " of yours are so iconic. Let's build a drinking game on them.
@cathycotton9635
@cathycotton9635 Год назад
Love your work. Thank you.
@da1onlynickvicious
@da1onlynickvicious 2 года назад
The witch king is pretty much the original Darth Vader.. a terrifying servant of a dark lord
@ashkanminaei3830
@ashkanminaei3830 2 года назад
Great video well-done
@dannygld23
@dannygld23 2 года назад
It's pure poetry. Tolkien was the master
@Stogger2000
@Stogger2000 4 месяца назад
I think one important detail missed was the prophecy made by glorfindel after Earnil wanted to challenge the Witch King.
@catxborsuq1
@catxborsuq1 11 месяцев назад
I'm not 100% sure that the Witch-king was one of the three Numenorean lords. I mean, yes, it would make the most sense that the most powerful of them was a Numenorean, but at the same time, the second most powerful was an Easterling, meaning he was more powerful than at least TWO Numenorean lords. The Witch-king could have very well been from Middle-earth then too... which honestly makes him even scarier, a "normal" human that was more powerful than Numenorean lords? I love that the game Middle-earth: Shadow of War, for all the liberties they had taken with the lore of Tolkien's world, didn't try to add any backstory to the Witch-king. When Talion tries to see inside him, the Witch-king says "You cannot see inside me. Nothing of my soul remains." Which is so simple, chilling, and fitting the character. Honestly can't blame Gondorians for choosing one of their own over Arvedui, a king of a small nation that at this point in time was basically foreign to them. And Earnil had earned the crown, defeating the enemies in battle (which is pretty much why 1000 years later Gondorians were all for Aragorn to take the crown too). Not to mention that by all accounts he was a good king, even sending help to Arthedain when he didn't really need to.
@SpookypupOmen
@SpookypupOmen Год назад
Tolkien is the king of everything happens for a reason.
@CampNou1999
@CampNou1999 9 месяцев назад
When you said "I don't want to end the video on a downer" I was like 😅😅😅 is it a downer? I'm a BIG FAN of the The Witch King I'm not gonna lie. He's a much better villain than Sauron in the 3rd Age. Much more proactive
@SunburnAndDragon
@SunburnAndDragon Год назад
04:44 I am reading LOTR again, and during the Council of Elrond, Gandalf says, while recounting his encounter with Radagast : "For even the Wise might fear to withstand the Nine, when they are gathered together under their fell chieftain. A great king and sorcerer he was of old, and now he wields a deadly fear." 😶
@willdemi5618
@willdemi5618 Год назад
"But where was gondor when that 1 thing happened last week, and where were they when that other thing happened just now!" Meanwhile there just living whole lifetimes on Saurons porch more or less.
@futuresonex
@futuresonex 2 года назад
I think that if I were Earnur and I just had to duel the Witchking I would've told him to come to me! "You want a duel? Fine! But you come to me. We shall fight on the Pelennor Fields outside the gates of Minas Tirith. If you don't come you're a coward!"
@tolkienuntangled
@tolkienuntangled 2 года назад
Yeah, witnesses would definitely have been a good thing for Earnur!
@afuaioane1644
@afuaioane1644 3 года назад
Wonderful
@kencooper8835
@kencooper8835 2 года назад
Remember, the Nine Rings (of Power) given to Kings of Men. While Sauron was disembodied and a shadow of himself without the One Ring, the fact that the Nine Rings for Men were created directly by Sauron, and therefore, were completely under his control (or at the very least, directly influenced by his desires). Whether the Witch King of Angmar had come into his knowledge and ability with magic separately before falling to the insidious nature of the Ring of Power given him, or that he had these powers because part of Sauron resided in each of the Rings of Power created from the knowledge and abilities of Sauron. If that is taken as fact, then this is why the Witch-King of Angmar was the largest threat during the Third Age, and not Sauron directly.
@IslandSkyPhotos
@IslandSkyPhotos Год назад
Love your videos!
@RonPalacio
@RonPalacio Месяц назад
I want this as a Movie!!
@sbam4881
@sbam4881 2 года назад
25:33 Wait. What crown is what now. From what I remember of the lore (but my memory is a bit fuzzy), the actual Crown of the united kingdoms was that worn by Isildur and it was lost, along with the One Ring, in the river when Isildur was slain. This Crown was later re-discovered in Isengard after the defeat of Saruman (who had apparently found it, along with the chain upon which Isildur wore the Ring, during his long search looking for the Ring for himself). The crown left in Gondor was just the crown of the Earnil line, but Aragorn was crowned with the Crown of Isildur.
@tolkienuntangled
@tolkienuntangled 2 года назад
Yeah, so you're right that the jewelled crown of Isildur was found in Orthanc, but this is after Aragorn is crowned king. Aragorn is crowned with the Winged crown of Gondor, which is the crown worn by previous Gondorian kings, and left in the Houses of the Dead by Earnur.
@sbam4881
@sbam4881 2 года назад
@@tolkienuntangled Cheers, thanks. I haven't read Tolkien material for 10+years. I'll have to watch more of your vids to get back up to speed 😄
@AlexisSele
@AlexisSele Год назад
Made me tear up at the end
@hollyh-zw1yb
@hollyh-zw1yb 2 года назад
I love your Elfish. It sounds like Gaelic...
@jeluenhayo2410
@jeluenhayo2410 2 года назад
I like how the last screenshot is Witch-King who has this iron tongue sticking out :D
@JoeBossRedSeven
@JoeBossRedSeven Год назад
🤗💞📖Love you back Lore Master📖💞🤗
@gordonmcinnes8328
@gordonmcinnes8328 Год назад
Have to disagree, the Witch King was an asset of Sauron, a servant. He also operated against a backdrop of civil war (Arnor and Gondor), invasion from the East (Wainriders, Corsairs, etc), Plague, Dragons and other clamities, other characters such as 'The Necromancer' existed also. Sauron is the one who binds all these together. The Witch-King while prominent to some degree in some times and places was one of many, especially while Angmar existed, he was still but an asset of Sauron, doing his bidding. And once revealed, the 'Wise' will have realised this.
@migapiga
@migapiga Год назад
So shook by the end 29:05 !!!!!!! So good
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