Premier League has a serious problem. 

The frustrating part about this is that the media always seems to defend or give idiotic excuses for the referees incompetence.

The fact that there was better use of the VAR in the last African cup of nations than in the premier league is a huge slap in the face of the premier league

The officiating in the PL is so embarrassing considering on how much money is involved. We are laughing stock to other leagues around the world because we always brag on how good league yet we can’t even get the most basic refereeing decisions correctly.

VAR seems to consistently make the worst decisions possible, it honestly ruins the competitive value of the Premier League

Forest never said it was corruption. Forest went to the PGMOL and said that the var is a Luton fan and that they don’t think it’s a good idea. Because stuff like this can happen. It’s just using common sense, Don’t put a Luton fan on the biggest relegation game of the season.

Prem refs when they see a defender kill a striker: Yup, looks like a booking to me

Manchester City are the only team that can’t complain to be fair

I still think Liverpool should consider suing PGMOL. Now with Forest alongside them, the case only grows stronger. It’s only a matter of time before other clubs (except City) support them.

Coventry vs United without VAR would have been one of the greatest FA Cup games 🔥

You've ran various marathons and then been on a marathon of quality content getting produced, LFG Viz!

Thanks for making a video on this topic. The officiating in the so called "best league in the world" is so terrible it's a joke. These silly mistakes can cause clubs to get relegated or miss out on europe or a title.

The thing is the fans are divided because they see that only their club is getting snubbed by the officials and then calling out the other clubs for 'paying the ref' instead of uniting against the referee and officials.

The fact Spurs has had only 1 penalty ALL SEASON is crazy

That tweet from Nottingham forest was like a frustrated fan feelings

Hanlon's razor: "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."

PGMOL might have literally cost Liverpool the title. The onside disallowed, the Odegaard handball, the kungfu kick to the chest by Doku. There is no way these blatant decisions are mistakes. More teams need to complain. PGMOL are ruining the game.

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The English game is every season becoming more and more like the MLS, just corporate entities only designed to make money. the FA, Premier League and EFL should look towards Germany for inspiration on the game.

i agree for the most part with notts forest the premier league is corrupt and the referees are biased

The "problem" is Manchester City. If all these anomalies are investigated, they are going to lead there. To much money and to great an influence......none of it on the football pitch.

Literally every team thinks the league is out to get them when the ppl running the league are just incompetent

I still think that the Liverpool issues are the worst as they have been blatant and unanimous in agreement that they are bad Ex, Diaz goal, Odegard stopping the ball with his hand, and Doku kicking Mac allister

What’s the point of VAR when City could just walk away Scott free after robbing Chelsea like that?

I don’t know what’s more frustrating. The complete incompetence and inconsistency of refs and VAR, or fans of clubs using this to attack other clubs that match their world view as the enemy. I’m a Man Utd fan, and while I don’t think the PGMOL is out to get us. I see a number of decisions that get given for other teams that don’t get given for us (goal ruled out where Rashford was out of bounds vs Brighton when the same incident happened and was given to Newcastle). I also know we have had decisions go our way that really shouldn’t have (Onana vs Wolves at the start for the season). We just want consistency.

i think people tend to mix up VAR and its use in english competitions, i remember it being almost perfect in WC2018 but these english refs have been abusing it

Subtle that man city weren’t mentioned in any negative ref decisions 🤔

VAR should be run by European refs, no favourites

The “right” way to do it has been done through over and over and the PGMOL doesn’t change. I fully stand behind their statement and how they said what they said.

The refereeing has gotten so horrible in England that corruption is almost the only way to explain it

I mean the most egregious handball was United last week. Genuinely, I was confused how we got a pen for us when Smith literally kept his hands to his body, but Maguire who basically had the similar thing happen to him didn't get called a pen. Idk if its cause it was a draw or if people forgot but genuinely it was a joke.

Ah sh*t, here we go again..

wolves have arguably been robbed more than everton this year. thoughts?

It's not a top 6 thing but I think it's definitely a Man City thing. Most of the decisions are them just being crap but the ones that went against any opposition of City have been outrageous; especially Doku at Liverpool and Rodri at Everton. They'll win the league again and it'll be because of the refs, again

in Serie A there's the semi-automatic offside that resolves most of episodes you mentioned, is still absurd because it negated goals because of millimetres but an offside is an offside

Fair play. I guess it hurts and is visible more when it happens to your club. Equality served with a dose of reality.

The amount of VAR Disallow goals because someone's toe, index finger, hair or bum is offside is absolutely ridiculous! And clearly there is corruption in the Premier league!

I agree but that Coventry call made me question the corruption element for the first time. I’m Leeds and I don’t want to go up. I want us to get top two, but I don’t want to go up.

Consistency isn’t the problem in terms of what is and what isn’t a foul or penalty or handball as the rules are designed to be vague, the problem is when VAR gets involved and alters the on field decision instead of assisting the decision made on field.

If there are decisions for or against your team in the Championship. I like the fact there are no var there as there isn't anything to ruin the flow of the play just like how football used to be. It's all fast paced

Im friends with Olympiacos fans and Olympiacos actually have the same owner as Forest and ur right the guy is a maniac

I don’t like the minimal offsides, the only real reason the offside was added was to stop an insane long ball game

I can’t believe in corruption, I just can’t. Forest’s statement comes across as throwing their toys out the pram. Had the same conversation with me Dad this morning, could have been some better phrased, but the way the ey did just means it’ll get dismissed out of hand, and land them in hot water. As for the calls, 1st one is refs call, 2nd isnt, 3rd is. As for the fa cup if the games had been swapped then Wan Bissaka wouldn’t have been called a pen, but Grealish would have. I heard somewhere that the Chelsea pen wasn’t called cause ref didnt see it, so what about the linos? Or var? I just can’t believe it didn’t get referred. Bad reffing, but support from his team AND the system to catch these.

I think differently as Forest stated to the pgmol that a certiain var ref is somehow associated with Luton therefore they asked for a different ref and they ignored their requests

Hmm I remember the abysmal refereeing for forest that allowed them to be promoted two years ago, I don’t recall them complaining abt it back then 😂😂😂

Just seems funny how every season city never have controversial decisions against them. As a Liverpool fan we probably notice it the most as we’ve been challenging them most seasons. I hate saying this but just doesn’t seem right at all

Message was spo on, I would have done it exactly the same. Last year City told the League that the VAR ref for the FC cup final was a United fan and guess what he gave United a penalty 🤷🏻‍♂️

If I were a club owner and my team went down to the championship and I saw a 75% revenue crash because of potential bias, or a notable pattern (Man City and referees going to Qatar) in decission against my club I would sue for lost damages. That's what it comes down to, there is so much money that a bad decision can cost millions both at the top and in getting a European spot. If clubs go legal action this gets dicy

Viz got this on point! It just fricking VAR VAR every damn week. So tiring to hear & talk about this now

The Handball law currently will continue to cause inconsistencies due to the number of factors included. Bring your arm inwards is one of the considerations (in relation to Grealish). It has to be simplified by the lawmakers (not PGMOL).

Its not so long ago when Mike Dean was at VAR duty and said he didnt want to send Anthonyt Taylor to check Romero pulling Cucurellas hair cause he is his mate and didnt want him to have more grief. Somehow this was just brushed under the carpet by media.

I think there is a big difference in saying that the PGMOL is corrupted and implying that they are incompetent. Forest were clearly stating the latter. They asked to have a referee removed because he could have potentially be biased and lo and behold, a clear penalty wasn't given. They never said it happened because the match was fixed, they're stating it happened because the PGMOL wasn't competent enough to prevent it from happening

As a forest fan if you seen how bad some of the calls are you would be with forest look up boly read card against Bournemouth

Don't you think that the UAE connection to Michael Oliver is weird? Especially when you look at how many key decisions he got wrong in favor of Man City.

As a Forest fan while the tweet was unprofessional its certainly kicked off a discussion from everyone which is what was needed. So many matches (not just ours) this season have had major errors from officials and nothing is ever done about it. Clubs get an apology letter and the official has to spend a game in a lower league as "punishment".

Spot on with everything

I have a theory that VAR’s actual purpose is to create a talking point for every match so no matter how boring the game is, there’s always something to debate about. More controversy = more eyes on the sport.

We got to a point where defending is just blocking the shot. I think penalties are shit, because more often than not the penalty was not deserved or the player faked it

I remember a game when Wolverhampton vs man United, and wolves weren’t given a penalty due to var not being used

Cloughie would've had a field day with VAR. Handball isn't subjective as it isn't down to opinion. It's either handball or it isn't, no room for interpretation. The Laws of the Game even featured a diagram showing which parts of the arm are considered for handball and it's basically anything that isn't the shoulder and armpit. In previous years the cut-off was the elbow, and in others it depended on where the arm was in relation to the body. This season, Berge's handball against Forest was handball, but a few years ago it wouldn't have been.

As a Chelsea fan i watched the cup game and i was completely fine thought we should have at least got the fucking corner. But i digress but then watching the cov game i was fucking fuming like there was zero consistency in a situation that was arguably softer than the handball in the chelsea game. Its not fair that if a different ref was on the field we would or could have won that game. If we were the sunday game and not the Saturday game we could have won the cup changing our season.

I'm not convinced grealish was a pen. When you jump you get lift from your arms so his arms was in a natural position. It's the natural position word that's the problem. When you run you move your arms, slide you have a different position for your arms. Arms are used for getting lift and for balancing. O and the forest complaint was before the game that the VAR guy was linked to Luton. Forest brought it up days before the game.

I won one of your giveaways mate just wana say unbelievably greatfull makes my room look ten times better time to get a knew one 🙈

The purpose of var and the execution are wildly different. Var should be used in some situations not all, it should *assist* the referees choices and not replace them.

VAR has changed the outcomes of too many games

As a wolves fan i can see qe are the only victims cant thing of one decision we can say we get away with that

One thing that is worth remembering for prem clubs is the standard of officiating without var, all well and good saying get rid of var, but the level of championship officiating is a joke. If you want any help with this, I'm a wba fan, we had a penalty vs rotherham which was clearly outside the box, and not handball, kipre handball off the line vs qpr not given and a pen against us vs Leicester qhich was most likely outside of the box, all in the space of a month Also, the stoke vs Swansea game a few weeks back, and who can forget Anthony Taylor's penalty decision in the cov vs Preston game, after it was decided he wasn't good enough for the prem for 1 week, but good enough for the championship We need ab overhaul of officiating, and that won't happen, my advice is go to the footy with your mates on a saturday, enjoy football (preferably without var) for what it is, and don't get wrapped up in twitter or replays when you get back, as it's so frustrating, and drags you down for longer periods of time

What amazes me is that part of the problem with the situation is that the PL put themselves in a precarious position by putting a Luton fan on VAR last weekend. You'd assume they would then try to be a bit more careful with refereeing selection. They then out a Liverpool fan on VAR fir the North London Derby this weekend. Considering Michael Oliver, a Newcastle fan, said that he shouldn't be refereeing Newcastle's rivals in the run in, it's a bit weird.

Var is so bad and incosistant especialy when there is a foul in the box like the barca araujo vs real madeid and it never even gets reviewed.

Charlton fan here, I’d argue we have it worse in the EFL. The standard of refereeing in this country needs to improve.

As someone not from England, this has appeared very obvious. I do think there is match-fixing going on. VAR decisions are so inconsistent, and the PGMOL punishments are only applied when the media has jumped on it. To me it is only logical in a sport when there is so much money involved, that money is the cause and reason for these inconsistencies

Personally I think it’s the VAR can work but only in the hands of the right people who know what their doing and also we need consistency on what a foul is because sometimes a little tap gets you booked but others that should be a sending off aren’t

tbh VAR has made refs lazy as they don't bother calling the big decisions as they think VAR will do it for them and then they can put the blame on VAR for the mistake not the referees.

Listen... There's no corruption in the prem. I'm french and in the Ligue 1, people often complain about bad decisions (var and referees) but it's NEVER about corruption. Ever. Your league just has to work on their bad refs system.

I feel like football is all about controversy now how can we screw up the game 😭😭😭

When it comes to VAR, all I wanna see is consistent decisions being made by competent officials, which is the exact opposite of what we're getting.

VAR should be run by Chatgpt or Even African Mandrills would do a better job than those at charge

Michael Oliver has been the ref for every single mistake in City's favour this season and factually has been paid by associates of City's owners to ref a glorified Sunday league game in the UAE in the middle of the season. Hell of a coincidence

They only care if it’s city as they don’t want them to look bad as their “the best team in the world and in the best league in the world” and hence give em hand outs to carry on that status

0:30 the last sentence sounds so Football Manager

Every week we had terrible decisions against us, we have only had 1 penalty all season, loads of pens not given for us and loads of soft penalties given against us. Also why did they not even bother stopping the game to check those penalty decisions yesterday and look at the slow motion replays

can't wait for the Dortmund Admin to tweet after a robbery if it happens in Bundesliga, is gonna be hilarious considering the meme-y nature of that admin.

I wouldn't promote scrapping VAR. But I'd encourage its use to be limited to On-side / Off-side decisions as they are the most non-subjective. If you think the PL would be better with lines-men determining who is onside, watch any weekend of the WSL - offside goals are scored all the time.

Can’t believe how many people are bringing up the Wan-Bissaka handball. He had his arms in the air to communicate that he thought the ball was going out of play, it didn’t, and his arms were coming down from that communication and then caught the ball with one of the arms. VAR is swings and roundabouts, the offside rule is incorrect as of right now, and we need a bigger group of refs voting on decisions if the actual ref cant make his own mind up in 15 seconds for any decision.

Thx vizeh for what is suggested yesterday, the prem just had the balls to fckin criticize notthingham forest for the statement dis is just disgusting

At least 2 of the "incidents" were clear Pens for me. I have to says I don't understand how none of these were given and the game just seem to gone on without any concern. The ref standards are worse than when we had amateur ref's; there just seems to be so many terrible decisions. It's damaging the game and things are going backwards.

In my opinion I agree with neco but not with the reason you thought all the “checks” lasted barely seconds and all we got was sky commentary saying it’s been checked but how do we even know it was at that point this is why the audio will be interesting for me

as a neutral I completely agree with what you are saying BUT it is pretty obvious that the only team that does not get the bad end of these mistakes is city. no matter how many poor officiating calls we see in the premier league, manchester city never seem to get a bad one even though the opposition they are playing always get screwed, just like we seen with chelsea the other day. City get very 'lucky', god squad or not.

100% agree great video

Manchester United doesn't even deserve to go through. All they're going to do is lose the final against City. Give the opportunity to Coventry, who will benefit more from the money

Spot on with the forest penalty claims

As a wolves fan I know var is bollocks but complaining won’t do nothing so there’s no point

Absolutely agree with everything, I don't think there's been any clear/evident bias in refereeing throughout the season it's just been a bad product. The only teams that can say the league truly is out to get them is any La Liga team not named Real Madrid

i agree so much as a arsenal fan i dont think we are targeted but everton and forest get points deleted with like 1 or 2 charges but man city and chelsea the fact that var is so stuiped i crazy i would also rather play without var in championship. THE PREM IS CORRUPT

The VAR decision with Spurs vs Liverpool was the start of the whole controversy. And I do agree that Forest has had it harsh throughout the season.

The crux of the issue is the high bar that exists for VAR to intervene. Many of the laws of the game are subjective, meaning one ref might see an incident as a penalty and another thinks otherwise. In either case, the VAR won't intervene because they want to avoid "re-reffing" the game and reduce the impact VAR has, limiting it to larger errors. This, by the way, is a result of what the fans and media have asked for. But the result is that very similar incidents have different consequences, which people are struggling to accept. In theory this strategy makes sense - leave it all up to the man in the middle on the day, barring major errors. But the line that constitutes a major error is too blurred for this to work in practice, and only results in apoplectic fans who are essentially angry about whether VAR did or did not intervene. The fact is VAR was deemed correct to not intervene on the first 2 Forest penalty decisions, but thousands of Forest fans will think otherwise. The independent panel said VAR should have intervened for the 3rd incident, but on the day the VAR team felt the bar wasn't met. This is a microcosm of how the system works, and is destined to fail. The existence of VAR means fans are not willing to accept that the referee on the day makes all the decisions, with outside intervention only for major errors. The mere existence of VAR means fans are demanding consistency and perfection, which is not possible. There either needs to be a better universal understanding (and acceptance) of when VAR is supposed to intervene (which is rarely), or bin it altogether.

Tbf Marinakis alleged corruption in Greece... then bribed officials and got charged for match fixing

Coventry need to "consider their options" as well.

Even though I'm a Sunderland fan, I am from Derby and as a result I'm not the biggest fan of Nottingham Forest. However, I agree with them on this.

Best football/soccer RU-vidr, sending love from America ❤️

i am starting to get tired of these Var mistakes