@@aussierustoration8703 I wasted a lot of money before buying Shoei..... Arai is up there also. All subjective but they fit me the best and are superior quality.
You can't go wrong with Shoei nor Arai. I still remember Arai being my most comfortable helmet, but I prefer how flexible and practical my Neotec is. If Arai had a flip-up option I'd be all over it, but they are forever the purist with the contiguous shell thang.
yep, agree… i have the neotec2, it cost $500 more than the other brands i had been using. Was even the heaviest based on the specs; however, out on the road couldn’t feel the weight, comfort level is off the charts, will never go back to another brand. Worth every $
Fit is so important. I was dead seat on a cool Klim (much the rage for Adv in the US) but made the effort to find a local shop to try it on. I do NOT have a Klim shaped head. It wasn’t even a “maybe”. I went with Arai, and it’s a bit heavy but no sore spots. And since I availed myself of the local shop (twice) to try on helmets, I purchased from them as well. I can by online in the future, but always good to give your local shop some love too. If they weren’t around, I’d have bought a poor fitting helmet
If the helmet spec's show the head shape, you can be pretty sure of comfort without trying it on, so long as you get the size correct. I have to order online becauss I have a long-oval anglo head shape, which doesn't fit the earth shaped helmets sold here in Japan.
@@ernieschatz3783 i'll check that out. I have Bell and Arai that fit. Klim Krios didn't. Would be interesting if the helmet shapes match up. Nothing wrong with buying online, if return policy is simple. Some (lucky) people can probably wear any helmet.
While buying my first full face helmet in the early 70's the owner of the shop asked me why I was looking at the less expensive models. He said "well if you have got a ten dollar head, buy a ten dollar helmet" Those words have served me well in this life
Been using Shoei 50+ years and they saved my head/face several times. They now sit on the Shelf of Heroes after being retired. I have a Shoei shaped head.
Helmets are not a one size fits all. When I went shopping for a full face helmet I had an open mind and tried several brands, I previously had Bell, Simpson which at the time were perfect fits. I ended up with an Arai this time around, and I wear glasses so that was a factor that had to be taken into account. I wish I could have spent less money for a new helmet but in the end saving my head is what counts😆
Like you I am a Shoei guy. For me, they just fit. I did try an Arai a couple of years ago, it was a nice helmet, but I just couldn't get used to it. Changing shields was super finicky and therefore super frustrating. Plus, it didn't vent very well. I just went back to Shoei.
I am right on the border between 'Small' and 'Medium' helmet sizes for practially all helmet manufacturers. Then I found Schuberth use different sizing to most, I found a Schuberth C3 Basic at a good price. It fits me like a glove (Medium) and it has the sun visor and flip front. I have a brand new Shoei (not modular) in the wardrobe, I must try it one day.... 🙂 Schuberth for me, but fit is everything. What's right for one is not necessarily right for you. I used an AGV for years, that I was completely happy with, until the lining fell apart. When I went to purchase another AGV they had changed the lining and it didn't fit.
I had the opposite experience. It took me quite some time to learn how a motorcycle helmet should really fit (surprisingly tight). The options are a bit slim due to my head size and shape. After a lot of try ons from a large selection, I found my ideal helmet. Not an Arai, Shoei or Schubert, but the rather affordable Scorpion ADV. First thing I did was to remove the shield, and it was smooth sailing from that point on. After five years of use I thought it would be a good idea to replace it. I wanted something really nice, so I got myself a Shoei Neotec II. In my size, and the colour matching my Bike (fancy, I know). Really tried to arrange myself with that investment (bought two different optional cheek pads, even tried to modify them to fit my head). Did not work, continued to wear the old bucket. So...I sold the Shoei at a steep loss and got myself another Scorpion, identical model. Yes, it Is just a plastic shell, it is a bit squeaky at a higher speed. But it felt like coming home. I dread the moment I have to purchase my next helmet.
They’re worth it, but only if the fit is correct. I used to use a Shoei helmet and after a break from riding lasting 12 years, bought another bike in 2021. It was during the time of the pandemic, so I mail ordered a Neotec 2 helmet. The initial fit was fine, but after about a hour, I found that it caused pressure points on my temples, causing me to lose concentration. I went to a dealer, who had a great many helmets on display to try and the one that fit me best and was most comfortable to wear was a LS2. They are designed for a long oval head shape and the fit is excellent. I can happily wear it for several hours. It may not be one of the leading, most expensive brands, but fit is everything.
I’ve just bought the Neotec 3. Will be watching TV and the like for a while just to make sure it fits. If it’s doesn’t I can take it back. If I use it on the motorcycle I’m stuck with it. A big chunk of change to be stuck with!
Scorpion helmet are also notorius for this front pressure thing. When you are buying 200-300€ helmets you think a 600€ is a waste. When you try a 600€ one you realize where the money goes, or rather it doesnt in cheap helmets
Hi sir, I just bought in march a brand new Shoei neotec 2 and I am very satisfied. I had a good deal. It cost me nearly 1000$ 🇨🇦 but worth it. This ride in Algarve reminds me of my trip in Portugal in 2019. Ride safely, Marc, Quebec Canada 😉🏍
My Neotec 3 is on order and I can’t wait…. I use Cardo comms and purchased a 3D printed adapter that hopefully will allow me to remain a Cardo user. While perusing the Shoei Europe site I did notice that they are selling an adapter so you can port over your SRL2 but it will obviously lack the smooth lines of the dedicated new Sena. Love the review because it reaffirms what I found while cross shopping other manufacturers.
I went for the Nolan N100-5 on the strength of the reviews from a number of sources. I purchased it online knowing that I could return it if the fit wasn't great as long as tag's and labels were intact. You feel a but silly wearing a bike helmet around the house but important to get it right before deciding. For me, the Nolan was comfortable and fitted well. I decided to keep it and have not regretted my decision. Yes the sun visor mechanism is stupid but I can live with that. It's also much quieter than the Shark I had previously. I guess ultimately it's down to the shape of your head.
I recently swapped my Nolan N100-5 for a Shoei Neotec 3, was happy with the Nolan only changed because of its aged and would have brought another one but a suspected model and could find another Nolan locally. The Shoes is a a more comfortable helmet and a slightly better fit but it wants to be at the price.
I'm a Shoei/Arai man myself. Came across this wonderful, lightweight and comfy BMW helmet. I love it, fits just as good as those mentioned above. Quite quiet aswell. Found out just recently it's made by Airoh. So I guess they make better helmets now than those I tried years ago. Cheers!
Nolan N100 pressure point in the middle of the forehead. YES! And there was nothing that I could do to alleviate it other than carving the EPS liner away. I just "upgraded" my 7 year old Neotech 2 to a Neotech 3. With the Sena SRL radio. Spendy - but I can wear it all day with no discomfort.
I tried on 35 helmets and about 7 of them were Shoei. Based on those, I would assume that Shoei is made for tiny headed people and I was not happy with the inside foam padding. They all felt inadequate in top region of the padding. I chose a HJC i91 and it is the most comfortable helmet I have found.
I also bought an HJC and still like it. I'm afraid of buying another helmet for fear of getting one that isn't as comfortable as the HJC. I had a shoe many years ago and really liked it. I rode a 76 KZ900 back in 1978.
I had a Shoei RF1400 sized as per the instructions. I tried it out for few minutes in the shop, and it felt okay. But on the road, it felt crushing tight on the cheeks, and I had multiple pressure points, giving a headache after one hour. it's a $600 helmet. Eventually I shelled out a lot more and got an Arai Corsair. It feels absolutely awesome. Minor adjustments are possible within the headliners to remove pressure points. Also, the RF1400 used to catch wind if I turn the head to the sides. No such problem with Arai. I wish I went with the Arai to begin with. Money well spent.
I am getting back on the road bike after a hiatus. I am baulking at the price of the neotec3, the AGV tour modular is made in China, that puts me off for what its price is….i had a bad crash years ago on track, my Shoei at the time saved me; I think I needed to see this video!
After my Scorpion Exo, I was ready to pay extra for a more comfortable frontflip helmet. The HJC RPHA 91 was tested as possibly the most quiet helmet out there, but what convinced me was the exceptional build quality and comfort. It wasn't cheap, mind you, but so worth it!
A few years ago I too ordered a Nolan full face helmet and experienced the same issue. A sore spot on my forehead marked by a red mark. Evidently your head must be round like a marble for Nolan helmets. Currently wearing a Neotec II and very happy with it.
Arai fan boy here. I started with a super cheap HJC helmet, shortly after I got an Arai. Two different worlds. Recently I ordered an AGV that didn't fit, and went back to the same Arai in white. 🤙
Yes I also bought a new xxxl LS2 full carbon helmet.excellent quality and soooo light , but after a ride of 2 hours my forehead was pained and ears crushed , what seemed like. I decided to ride to a helmet specialist to actually try on the helmet and the only that fitted was a XXL shoei neotec..2. I searched around and evidently Asian helmets are more for elongated shape of heads. The shoei are for more round shape heads which makes sense as the Japanese men have more rounder shape heads.Love my Neotec 2 , but a expensive mistake. I live in Sweden, not the volume of bike shops here unlike UK.Great channel👍😃🏍️🇸🇪
2 helmets ago I had a shoei and it was so damn comfortable. I then bought a cheapo modular that had been OK but the time has come to upgrade and 8mjust got the Neotec 3. Might wear sunglasses still and use the sun visor on very bright days (CA freeways can be made of a light grey concrete and they get really bright!). Will have to do some experimenting. Looking forward to having a sun visor.
Arai was out of my price range, so I bought a Shoei RF 1400 last year and it's a great helmet. I did get the Transitions visor and it's been great too. I've had it a year, time will tell how long it lasts. I don't care for drop down visors as they aren't helpful in lower light situations where you want some sun protection, but not so dark you can't see. Transitions are great for that as the tint will lighten depending on the amount of sunlight you're riding in.
I’ve had 4 Shoeis and 2 Arais amongst others ( got a thing about buying new lids) Whist there’s no doubt that in my mind overall the two brands are are top of the pile I do find certain aspects of Shoeis fall short of less expensive brands in some respects. For instance on my GT air and Neotec 2 the pinlocks don’t cover the visor as well and many brands and touch the seal when opening the visor, this breaks the seal and causes issues. A sub 200 quid HJC does it better. As for buy cheap buy twice. Waterproof gloves, tried all the cheaper brands then many years ago I splashed out and bought a pair of goretex Hein Gericke gloves. Cost 119 quid back then. Never bought anything other than goretex gloves since. (Richa now)
Today, I purchased a Neotec 3 for a month long tour around some of Europe, where the weather will be warmer than the UK. I wanted a flip up style so I'd be cooler. I only considered the Shoei because of my head shape. I am not wealthy but quality, in the long run is the cheaper option. Thanks for your good upload 👍
Good call. They are eye-wateringly expensive, but after a few weeks you will have forgotten about the price and will just be enjoying the comfort and quality. Thanks for your input, and ride safe :)
First helmet was open faced and FOC, came with the bike, never wore it. Bought my own Zeus open face for the looks, cheap and comfortable... until I saw an accident with a rider lying on the tarmac face down. Decided to go for something more protective and went for Shark Evo GT. Worked well for 1 year then the flip over mechanism jammed on me causing my head to get stuck in it. Took a hell of an effort to get it off, got it repaired and continued using it. More recently the visor clip broke nearly affecting a long planned ride (had to superglue the thing). Decided to go for a Shoei GT Air 3 after that (went for full face as I'm not about to get my head stuck in another helmet due to failed mechanism). During PFS the technician taught me many things on how a helmet should fit. Now I know I had been wearing my helmet wrong because the fit was wrong 😅. Guess it's a learning experience and yes... Shoei is expensive but for the right reason.
Once I tried Shoei and Arai I’ve never looked back to any other helmet brand. Staying with Shoei helmets for more than a decade. Fits me well and the quality is outstanding! You get what you pay for!
I have been sliding down the road on my face at 120 kph. I wasn't thinking about the price of the helmet. It was a brand new aria. The cop looked at me, then the helmet, and said, "mate, that is the cheapest insurance you ever bought." Currently i wear a shoei GT air.
Of course, so much depends on the shape of your head. I had bought a Schuberth C5 and found it a bit lacking for my head. I then bought the Shoei Neotech 2 modular and could not be happier. So happy that I also bought the Shoei RF-1400 full face. I use both depending on which of my bikes I ride.
I have a Neotec 2 and it makes too much wind noise, it fits well and has enough comfort but the noise. I did a test drive with one before paying 750 euro. So I bought a Givi X21 HPS also after a test drive and it is a lot quieter, fits well and the price was 250 euro. Sunviezer is 10mm shorter but works well, opening goes good and closing is a bit harder, comfort is good as is ventilation. Of course some little things could be better but I am happy with it. Mostly I use the Givi and the Shoei stays in the wardrobe.
I have an Arai Contour that fits me perfectly. While it fits snugly and passes all the fit tests it remain extremely comfortable. You almost forget you have a helmet on. I wear prescription glasses so photochromatic glasses serve me will with a clear shield. Also, if you must have a flip up and down sun shield, Arai has a terrific solution without compromising the safety of the helmet which, of course, is the whole point of wearing a helmet. So, - to each his own, both are excellent helmets.
I've got the Nolan had it for almost 5 years and find it really comfortable. Previously wore a Shoei non flip lid that was also comfortable but that was 25 years ago so I'm sure helmets have come a long way since then. No complaints with the Nolan though and it wasn't budget cheap at time of purchase.
A few years ago I purchased a modular helmet from amazon. Can recall brand, it was cheap. It went back the next day. back in January I was looking for a new helmet and luckily there is quite a good motorcycle shop in Alicante and range of helmets. There were some premium brands that did not fit well. I did try on the neotec 3 and it was comfortable but pricing had gone through the roof. In the end I went with neotec 2. Very happy with it.
A friend has the Neotec 2 and is delighted. I only really got the Neotec 3 because I left it too long and couldn’t find any Neotec 2s in my size. Thanks for your input👍😊
As a current Nolan n100-5 owner yes I agree with you my forehead hurts after using it for awhile and the sun visor’s build quality sucks the visor won’t be able to fully retract after clicking the button and I have to manually bring it up apparently it’s an issue with that helmet and it’s also very heavy
I’ve had my Nolan 100-5 for three years. I don’t have comfort issues. They did measure my head and said I needed the medium but the large fit better so maybe they just run small? Dunno. I think it’s been a good option for around 300 euros. It’s a bit loud at highway speeds but the integrated N-Com system works well and over all, I thought it was a good starter option.
Been riding a "cheap" Sedici Viaggio Parlare for 4 years now. Tens of thousands of miles, in all conditions/climates, on and off road. Zero complaints. Tried a Shoei RF1400. nice, but certainly not twice as good (price) as the Sedici. Doesn't even have a drop-down visor or ratchet closure. Returned it. Going to try a GT Air 2 or Neotec 2 since they are both marked down right now due to the third version of each being released. May end up with another Sedici. Who knows. People don't like to admit that the extra money often doesn't actually buy more especially once they already spent that money. Sometimes more money even buys *less.*
Nice video ! We have to consider that some of us have almost round heads, another ones rather elongated heads, and some modifications are necessary. No questions my Schubert, Shoie, and Arais flawless. Well insulated for noise great fit !
In short, absolutely they are worth it. Had I not been wearing an RF-800 when I had my crash, I would not be able to walk and talk. I came away with a shattered left radius in my wrist and only 10% permanent brain damage to my right frontal lobe. Had I been wearing an ARAI the heaviest damage would have been the wrist with minimal brain injury. $1,000 is a lot of cash to drop on a lid that you need to replace every 5 years, but, the first time you actually need the lid, it pays for itself. We have the ability to replace some body parts, the brain is not one of those. Cheap gear is for organ donors.
I had 3 relative cheap helmets and none fitted me well, pressure points, poor quality and generally unhappy about them. Then 5 years ago the Neotec 2 just came out and I bought it and 5 years later its still perfect. its all day comfortable and whenever I replace it, it will be for the neotec 3.
@@RocketMan_Moto what use is a helmet if it hardly gets used? And even manufacturers and government safety experts strongly recommend NOT to use helmets over 5 years. Same for tires, though that age might be more generous. First thing one would replace on an older used bike no matter how “ new” the tires look. Simply not worth the risk to find out the hard way.
Yes, agree with your comments, having made the same mistake buying a Nolan N100-5 +. It seemed a good fit in the shop but after 2-3 hours on the bike I had the same pressure point on the forehead. Like your self, I also tried to work away at the padding after realising it wasn't going to 'bed in'. No joy, it just got more uncomfortable and ended up sitting on a shelf in the garage in its box. Still is today. My well worn, tried & tested Neotec 2 got a full refurb with new visor, pinlock and centre pad. Im still looking for a second lid for lesure and pleasure riding to compliment my rejuvenated daily rider Neotec 2. Not sure I will get the Neotec 3 just yet as too close to the 2 but may go for a GT Air 2/3.
Oh dear, sounds as if you had a very similar experience to me with the Nolan. My GT Air 1 is great, but I find it a bit claustrophobic after my J Cruise open-face or modulars, especially when it's hot. Thanks for your input :)
There are plenty of inexpensive 5 star helmets on the independent UK Sharp testing site. Expensive doesn't always mean safer, and you defintely need to try helmets on, even the various models within a manufacturers range. I will trust the independent testing sites to give me a range of options and then ensure the helmet fits me properly and is comfortable for my head shape.
Good points - safety and comfort are not always found in the same helmet. A good fit is paramount. Keep trying until you find a brand that fits your head.
Great video. I've used Shoei helmets for over 30 years i find them comfortable and a good fit. The new models are also more quiet than the previous versions. I now live in Australia where the prices are rip off central.... $1300 Aud for a GT Air 3. 🤣 In Europe i can buy the same model for equiv $700 So you can have a good quality helmet for a good price if you shop around...
Hmm. I'm not convinced that pressure on your forehead is related to the price of the helmet, rather than a particular helmet shape not being matched to your head shape. Neither do I think the sprung return on the dark visor is related to price. I actually liked that feature. I agree that really cheap helmets are not worth buying, but I've had some really good Caberg and Nolan helmets and currently a Bell helmet, all were what I would say are pretty much mid-priced, have good safety ratings, and fitted and lasted well. The best helmet to buy is one with a good safety rating, fits well and is comfortable, and you can operate features without a second thought. It might not necessarily be the most expensive.
Good video. I use Shoei helmets having dabbled with an AGV which was light and aerodynamic but the strap was too far back for my fat neck and the drop down visor mechanism broke twice. I have transition visors on both a Shoei RYD and a Hornet ADV and have had for about 4 years with no drop off in performance. Do about 6000 miles a year shared between the two and would definitely recommend despite the price: spread over a 5 year life span it’s not overly expensive which I suppose you could also say about premium gear. Buying online though must be a minefield regarding fit especially helmets. 👍🏻
Again, I concur with your views related to the assessment & rational behind buying a quality product from the get-go…particularly when we are talking about protecting our noggin. In the immortal words of one “doctor” who was affectionately referred to as “Bones” from the original Star Trek series, I want to retain “good cranial development”, translated, keep my head “intact”-if(God forbid) I go down. I own 2-Shoei’s & 1-Arai…in my estimation, I believe that structurally, along with fit and finish, the Arai is the superior helmet, that said, Shoei(as you intimidated)has more options, hence, why I own 2 of them. Thanks again for another thoughtful commentary on this most important topic👍
I always thought I needed a flip helmet for the comfort of putting on and removal with my large, odd shaped head .... until I tried on a Shoei . Now I have a basic Shoei Quest model and it's the most comfortable helmet I've owned in 45 years of biking.
I got a couple Torc t1 for a Harley dyna low rider. Clocks on the top of the tank and mostly warm/hot dry below 60 mph. Field of view is better than anything I've had before. It's intended for comfort and ventilation on vintage/classic/retro. Would be a poor choice for anything else. Great for it's intended application in the UK. Wear glasses for driving anyway. Definitely buy nice or buy twice, plan ahead on how to care for it.
True, although the heat here in the summer means I always go with white. I bought the black GT Air when I lived in rainy northern France, lol. Thanks for your input :)
I 100% agree i bough this in Nov last year and have loved it every since!! I think you meant to say that the SLR2 is not compatible with the Neotec 3 but the SLR3 is ...i use the 3 and love it! The Shoei Neotec 3 is the best helmet Ive owned in 20y
I’ve always had shoei or arai and upgrade quite often ( I like helmet shopping I guess) and recently bought the shoei air GT … then I tried a scorpion axe 1400 carbon and bought that …. Used it all year now … superb helmet at far lower cost than shoei yet in my opinion comfier and great quality 🤷🏻♂️
When planning on your first investment, do it right the first time. But in the motorcycle world, not always the expensive one is the best. There are many popular brand names out there, many choices, it's a competition in everything. I bought an Arai adventure but it was uncomfortable, and friends, the headliner went bad, a $700 piece. Then I bought the xlite 552 edition from Nolan , $450 carbon fiber masterpiece, and I love it, light, well made, and so comfortable. Kudos Nolan👍
Totally agree. After Shoei QWEST which was excellent, I chose to save around 100eur and bought a heavily discounted AGV K5S. Not that K5S is bad, far from it. But, it is a bit noisier, a bit less comfortable and built with visibly less attention to detail. Moving parts on SHOEI are just perfectly fitting and moving precisely, while AGVs parts (vents mostly) feel cheap and move as they please... I will be a returning customer for sure...
I used to ride Shoei and this helmet was a perfect fit. Now, 10 years later I ended up with Schuberth and since 2 months with a nexx x.wed3. Both these helmets fit my Shoei head.
Just got myself a shoei gt air 3 two months ago and the fitting was paramount. Most expensive bit of kit I ever bought. Just hope all its parts hold up for the lifespan of the helmet. We have a Motocard shop near Porto, too bad if you can’t find a similar shop down in Algarve…
Very enjoyable video, as always: Thank you! I grew up using hand-me-down helmets so the bar was never very high. This year with my new Hornet we bought helmets for the whole family: my wife, three boys and me. We settled on Italian brand Origine. All helmets are EU 26 compliant, which was key for me. My helmet is comfortable (we tested sizes at a shop) but a bit noisy. It has easy to operate ventilation and sun-visor which I use all the time. I hope never to have to test it in a crash…! They were definitely low cost, but EU26 compliant so… fingers crossed! Perhaps at some later date I will migrate to something more high end.
I have a neotech 2 and before that an agv. Got the N2 because I wanted a modular helmet and its reputation. I'm pretty happy with the fit and the function. The only niggle I have is the inability to open the visor a tiny gap, like the agv, to let air run and 'demist'. I know you can open the visor to the first 'click' but that's too much. Anyway that's my one niggle and something I'll check before I buy my next helmet.
I found that Scorpion helmets fit me perfectly and have owned several. I do currently own a Shoei (not the Neotec) and it fits perfectly and is a quality helmet. You do have to try them on. I have returned helmets to Cycle Gear here in the Colonies after finding that they gave me a headache after even a short ride. Generally, higher prices seem to indicate a higher quality experience but not always. Honda versus BMW?
Excellent video with the various points well explained. About 10-11 years ago, I learnt the hard way, like you, that the expensive helmets are just better all round. Interestingly, having had a Nolan N104 about 14 years ago, I soon changed it for a Schuberth C3, then C3 Pro (twice) and now I have a Shoei Neotech II. Riding a "fully faired bike", I find that the Shoei is very noisy compared to the Schuberth. The problem stems from both the visor hinge and the sun visor lever as it is noisier on the left hand side. I have a Sena 10C Pro camera attached to the left side of the Schuberth C3 Pro and it is still quieter than the Shoei! I hope that the new Shoei Neotech III is quieter as I'm at a loss to know whether to go for it or the Schuberth C5. Based on previous experience, I probably go for the Schuberth. This messing about with the non-transferable Comms is extremely annoying and the SENA SRL2 is not worth the money - I assume that the SRL3 will be similar as they have similar software. Both Schuberth and Shoei are guilty of this non-transferable Comms malarkey!
@@RocketMan_Moto Sena and Cardo managed to sort of get their Comms to work with each other, hopefully they be able to do something similar in helmets...
I have owned dozens of helmets over the last 45 years. Shoei is, at least for my head shape, the best I have ever used. Comfortable, quiet, safe, feature packed.
Love my Neotec II which will be 6 years this year... time for an upgrade. I'll keep an eye out for a nice deal on the Neotec III. On another subject: Would love to watch you review the Voge 900 DSX if you can get hold of a demo bike. I just ordered one, so we'll see if that'll be another case of 'buy cheap, buy twice'!
I only bought one top of the line helmet , a Schuberth C3 , the Black United States model , with the gold maps , fits awesome , ultra quiet . $650 well spent
I had exactly the same experience with a Nolan helmet-that was £200 down the drain! My Nolan helmet becomes painful across the forehead after less than an hour in the saddle; it's agony! A good while later, I managed to buy a Shoei Neotec 2 (Respect TC10 Blue) for an excellent price. It was still expensive, but it was well worth it. It's the most comfortable helmet I've ever worn, it's very quiet, the optics are superb-the best-and it's top quality. Always try a helmet on if you can, and do your research before buying, head shape etc., as it can work out to be a very expensive mistake. I've found the biggest problem is getting the right fit for your head. You can try a helmet on, it feels okay, you buy it, then you find out after riding with it for a while-it's killing you! Always make sure there's at least a fingers worth of space at the pressure points, especially the forehead, top and back of the head, and check the sides. Move your head about, side to side, and back and forth, to make sure that the helmet moves slightly, and that it's not too tight. I managed to try out a Schuberth C5, and didn't get on with them. Their sizes seemed a bit odd, I went down to a medium, but usually I'm a XL? I also have a Scorpian Carbon Fibre 1400 Air helmet, which is also very comfortable. The Scorpian is very light, but it's noisier, and it doesn't have a flip-up front, which I love just because it comes in so handy, the only downside is that they're heavier. Personally, I would always recommend a Shoei helmet, but it might not be suitable for your head shape, but try one out if you can, they're fantastic helmets.
@@RocketMan_Moto I also bought a Bell Custom 500 classic open face helmet for short, slow rides in the summer around my local area and parks, and that's a killer as well. Very thin padding with zero venting, it's just very uncomfortable and sweaty when you wear it in hot weather-but it looks good with a pair of Aviator sunglasses, and a chequered neck tube!
I have quite a few bikes and helmets, among the latter 2 Nolan N100-5s, a Shoei Neotec 3 and a Schubert C3. The Nolans fit me nicely and never gave me too much trouble. I can wear them all day long. When I ride on my Harley the sound of the exhaust makes the shell of the Schubert helmet vibrating and the resulting noise is truly deafening. I could not ride longer than 10 minutes. The lining of the Shoei at the ears is a bit loose and I have the feeling it easily folds double and presses on my ears. Also on the right hand side just above my ear at one point the pressure pain became unbearable. I really have to very carefully put on this helmet and check everything fits nicely to avoid these problems. The other thing is that, although the Shoei generally is quite quiet, when the turbulence from the windscreen gets worse, also the shell of the Shoei starts vibrating making it much louder the the Nolan N100-5. Regarding comfort or quietness I would not really rate the Schubert and the Shoei higher than the Nolan, although both have a better build quality.
It was time to replace my Shoei Neotec 2, however, the Neotec 3 is a bit larger and heavier here in the States. The other factor not to get the 3 was having to get a new comm system as I did not want to shell out the additional to replace the very good SRL-2 I have with my Neotec 2. Kind of a poor marketing ploy to make one purchase what is basically the same unit for the 3. I suppose it makes sense for the company in order to increase sales, but it did cost them me as a customer. I went with the Schuberth C5.
Yes buying helmets is a nightmare. I have one strange and large shaped bonce ! The first cheapo helmet I was talked into by a motorcycling training school back in 2018 was horrendous. Squashing the pressure points down did help a bit , but it was never pleasant. I'd go to J&S accessories and try helmets on, but to never find one I liked. In the end at the 2019 NEC Motorcycle Live show I could try on bucket loads of helmets, and found that a Schuberth C3 XXL was wonderful. I can recall some Shoei Neotecs being quite nice, but if I recall correctly they were a little bit more expensive. In the end at a Schuberth stand I'd just got bored of trying on helmets, and the C3 was good ! I could've ended up with a Neotec ... I'm getting to the point of needing a new helmet. Guess I'm going to just get a Schuberth C4 / C5 or whatever is the latest model ! maybe I'll try a neotec again ... Yes, why Arai don't want to do flip up front ( I'm sure they didn't in 2019!) , or the integrated sunvisor sure beats me. The flip up front, and easily adjustable sunvisor are in my opinion necessary features in a helmet.
The helmet is probably the most important piece of equipment a motorcyclist will buy. Not the place to save or cut edges. I too have a Neotec (2) fitting me better than a Schuberth, due to my egghead shape. You’re right about details; quality makes a world of difference. Safe riding!
@@sommebuddy modular helmets have reached a high and compatible level of safety as integral helmets, also proven in a national highway and safety test comparison as recent as 2023. For racing , modular helmets are much too heavy. Wearing a modular helmet is absolutely safe.
An interesting comparison, I think it shows how important trying a helmet on first actually is. I am looking for a new helmet at the moment and tried several on in a shop from different makes and price points and I could definitely tell the difference with the more expensive ones feeling more comfortable. It looks like you prefer Shoei and I can understand why.
I’ve tried a few brands over the years, but have always found Shoei to be the nicest. As you say, though, it’s always best to try them on first. Not easy here in deepest Portugal😉
My problem with Arai is not the sun visor, but the refusal to build a modular helmet so they can meet the higher Snell Standard. Being purely a modular helmet person, I likely won't ever own an Arai. After lusting over the Neotec 2 for years, I finally found what I wanted as an open box item and had the Neotec 2 shipped to me for under $600. I've been quite happy with it, aside from the ratchet strap chin fastener. I hate that feature and would much prefer the old reliable double D. It's easier, and gives you something to run your helmet lock through, unlike the ratchet mechanism.
@@RocketMan_Moto I THOUGHT I would too, but quickly realized I preferred the double D rings. It's hard to line up the curvature of the male piece with the opening of the female, and again, nothing to lock a helmet lock on.
I have the Shoei Neotec 2. Mmmm! Shweeet! I also have the Schuberth C5, this is also a great helmet, a little better ventilation than the Shoei! Both about as quiet, I too have a Shoei head. Nothing wrong with C5 fit, just not as snug as the Shoei. Then, (because I can't go broke fast enough) I got the HJC RPHA 91. I do not have a HJC head. Waiting for new liners to be available from HJC. These are the three modular helmets that have the best reviews. I don't regret buying any of these helmets. I just suggest wearing a new helmet for at least 15 minutes, if you can.
I won a Arai Helmet in 2022 thorough a raffle organized by a local distributor here in Spain. I’d argue that Arais are even better than Shoeis but it was so uncomfortable! The same exact thing happened to me with this helmet as it did to you. I had a massive pressure point on the forehead that no only left a mark but it was also painful (I had to stop 45min in my second ride with it. I just couldn’t bear the pain anymore) I guess there are Arai shaped heads and mine is the polar opposite. I’ve been using a Neotec 2 since then and haven’t looked back since.
I had 2 Shoeis for a long time. Great helmets, however trying the new HJC 90S Carbon sold on me, on all levels. Lighter, quitter. very comfortable and much cheaper shipped. No regrets. Must try one before ordering a Shoei. I don't work for HJC.
I only buy Shoei helmets but different brands fit different head shapes. For example, I like AGVs but have not been able to find one that fits me as well as the Shoei. Anyone who can afford a top quality helmet (Shoei, Schuberth , AGV, Arai) will not be disappointed with the choice. Just touch any model, from any of the brands I mentioned, and touch any helmet from a less expensive brand (Icon, HJC. Scorpion, etc). The difference will be very obvious by touching alone. Once you wear it (especially over a long time) you'll see the top brands are the way to go.
Years ago I was able to wear shoei but now not, I think that they changed the shape. Everyone’s head is different and my head is definitely a very different shape. Fortunately AGV and Bell are a reasonable fit for my shape in the correct size (as measured). However the cheapest helmet that fits properly and is comfortable will always be better than the most expensive Arai etc. that doesn’t fit properly. I crashed at age 18 (1980s) wearing the cheapest then legal full face helmet available and it saved my face and head with a lot of helmet worn away from road contact. It’s not all about impact protection. On a separate note, I have found that the latest AGV K6 visors are optically brilliant and the contrast with their dark visor is fantastic even in dull or shady conditions.
I’ve tried twice now to buy a cheaper helmet but I go back to Shoei because the others were just a waste of money. Shop around for a top mark is good advice.
I used a full face HJC for 5+ years and was happy with the comfort, but, it is always very hot here (Vietnam) and having to remove my helmet to rehydrated or take photos was a royal pain. So I recently bought an LS2 Valiant modular helmet. I need to point out I have big ears and wera glasses, 2 frames, one Oakley type with gripper side frames and the other pair ordinary round the ear type. Positives, low wind noise even with the visor up, easy and accessible sun shild, ECE and looks cool - well, it's important to look cool, isn't it ;) However, neither of my glasses sit on my face properly, and that is after the struggle to get them on in the helmet in the first place, the Oakleys hit the back of the liner pushing them off the opitimal position for my sight, and with both frames my glasses seem to be attached to the helmet, not my face, so when I look to either side, my vision is impaired. Hellish uncomfortable as it crushes my ears even without the glasses, with them it is even worse! 260 Euros up the swanee. I'm back in the UK in July/August so another helmet will be bought. Any advice on the glasses isssues, guys?
Hope you find what you're looking for in the UK. If you try one of the bike supermarkets, I'm sure you'll be able to try on dozens of different models and hopefully one will work for you and your glasses. Good luck
I use LS2 helmets for the following reasons, Light weight, darkest inner sun visor, great ventilation, and fits my noggin comfortably snug. It is a louder helmet brand; however, I ride with ear protection and ventilation is more important to me.
Recently upgraded to the shoei xspr pro myself. It’s so much more comfortable than my hjc helmet was, definitely worth the investment so far. I luckily also managed to pay quite a bit under full retail :)
Worth saying that fit is much more important than the brand. I've got an Arai Quantic, which was seriously comfortable (and expensive) in the shop, however I can't wear it above 60mph as it starts lifting off of my head. My relatively cheap x-lite (Nolan) fits me so much better and I wear it more than the nearly twice the price Arai. I've not tried a Shoei yet.
Having come back after more than 15 years off due to a health issue, helmets have come on leaps and bounds. I bought a cheap lid as it fitted well and I didn't know if I could still ride. Yes, some of the materials are obviously cheap, but after 5 minutes I didn't notice I had a helmet on. The ventilation system was amazing and noise was acceptable. I remember having your issue with a system 3 BMW lid, so disappointed 😢
@@RocketMan_Moto If it is of interest it's an MT Storm SV , shops have got it marked down to £90 at the moment , that would give you a real chalk and cheese comparrison 🤣
There is no doubt that Shoei make excellent helmets but with my GT Air II I found that at times insects were able to enter through the vent on top of the helmet, a particularly unpleasant experience feeling something crawling on your scalp as you ride. I removed the top vent cover and glued some fine mesh in place then refitted the cover. That fixed the problem but I was surprised that there wasn't mesh there from the factory.
I have ALWAYS had a Shoei head, I guess. I currently use a Neotec version 1 and a J-Cruise. No disappointment at all, even though they’re older, out of production helmets. I typically buy a Shoei once the newer version is out (and buy the prior version at a discount). I recall a helmet manufacturer (don’t recall which one)- they had a slogan: Buy a $10 helmet if you have a $10 head
I really like the J Cruise and have been told by Shoei Europe that they'll be bringing out a J Cruise 3 model later this year. Now I've got the Neotec 3, I only use the open-face for urban scooter duties, though. Thanks for your input :)
I have had a few helmets through the years, Marushin, Shark and Arai Chaser V and my second, current Arai Renegade V. By far, the Arai is the best. My size is XL and even at high speed does not push up into my face while riding. I ride with earplugs to reduce all noises, helmet and road. In another year I will be looking forward to another new helmet which will be another Arai, probably the 7 Evo.
@@RocketMan_Moto Integral sunvisors create a soft spot around the forehead area, which in an accident might not protect you enough from receiving a head injury. With their latest helmets with VAS system, you can buy an external sunvisor with normal visor combined, which you can flip up and use as a peak. In 2020 I had an accident where a car entered the roundabout as I was exiting it and as I flopped over, hitting the driver’s window with my helmet and handlebar.
mirrors my experience, the Nolan is for roundheads,. Also found the sun visor flimsy. Back to shoei for me. However, price isn't guarantee of best safety. The UK gov Sharp helmet safety site is an eye opener
I have mix feelings about Shoei. I have 2 of them (GT Air 2 and Neotec 2). I agree, they are very comfortable and fairly quite. However.. they both, but especially GT Air 2 allow a lot of water to get into the internal side of the visor. In the UK it rains a lot and every time I ride with them, the vision gets compromised by water inside the helmet. They also have very narrow visors hence also visibility is less than e.g on my Arai. Also Neotec doesn't have a setting on the visor to leave a narrow gap for gentle ventilation (no issue with this on GT Air 2). So if you want to open the visor just enough to allow some extra air in, it goes to high and stays roughly on the eye level making it harder to see.. I think it should be told, so potential customers can make more informative decision while purchasing. I wish I knew this things before I spent the money. For some these may be smaller issues, but I ride everyday, no matter the weather and it is annoying. No problems like that with Arai. Cannot speak for other helmets as I never own anything else but this 2 manufacturers. I do not regret buying Shoei helmets, but they have these very annoying issues in my opinion.
I’ve been riding for 52 years. About 10 years ago, I finally started buying quality helmets. Well, expensive quality helmets. Shoei fitted the best. Then I tried a Schuberth. Did not fit. It’s for a round head, not oval. I mean you can buy an oversized one and swap out pads to fill in the sides, but the neck roll com system made it sit up on my head and this killed the seal for me. Next I tried on a Shoei Neotec 2 and it was as if they used my head for the mold. Just bought another one because they are on sale as the 3s are now out. Can’t find a shop that has any 3s in stock to try one on so I just took advantage of the sale on the 2s. Sure there less expensive helmets. Some have a great fit. But knocking down the noise lacks severely on the cheaper helmets. You can wear ear plugs but then you can barely hear the com system. So I mean it’s up to the buyer. Spending $700 to $1100 on a helmet with a com system is not always easy. Been there. But once you do it, you’ll be so happy. It really is worth the difference in a long ride having a helmet with no hot spots. One you can wear all day long in comfort. I was never able to do that with the cheaper helmets that looked like the expensive ones. But shop around and find one that fits your head. Take out the side cheek pads and put the helmet on. It should fall on your head perfectly. Then put in the cheek pads and size them snugly but not squishing your lips to a pucker. There should be no tight spots that will cause discomfort because after a few hours, those spots will become painful. Best of luck!!
I did look around for a cheaper Neotec 2, but I must have waited a bit too long as most shops only seemed to have odd sizes or unpopular colours left. A brand new Neotec 3 was €100 more, but once my wallet was over the shock, it's proven a great buy. very comfortable. Thanks for your input :)
Drop down visors are a MUST. Entering a long tunnel after bright sunlight it’s vital to be able to flip up a sun visor and vice versa. Shame Arai stick to their policy as I like their stuff.
My first shoei was a raid. I then had gt air 1. I next had a carbon x-lite which was comfortable but let down by two vents braking so I had to replace it after 3 years. Put off by shoeis comms unit (I have a cardo) I got a carbon hjc and now on the third visor in a year due to the latch falling off. My next helmet will be a return to Shoei or an Arai, you definitely get what you pay for, the quality is much better.
In the last 15 years I've had several Nolans and one Neotech II. There's no doubt the Shoei is better quality but I've been very happy with the Nolans which fit me very well. The problem is that the Neotech is twice the price. In fact, the last two Nolans I've bought were discounted to approx. 1/3 the cost of a new Neotech.
Did you ever find a way to open the visor just a tiny bit on the GT Air 1? It's my only gripe with it, gets very chilly on cold days. I hope to get a neotec 2 or 3 someday as they seem to have solved that.
Thanks for the information. This video was very helpful. I'm also considering replacing my well worn Shoei Neotec 1 with a Shoei Neotec 3. In your video, you mentioned sunglasses. Do you wear eyeglasses or sunglasses with your Neotec 3? If so, do the glasses fit OK in the helmet? Thanks again.
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